Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby!

[DrX]

It was impossible to run that 5700 stock, mem temp was something like 106C and that wattage was over 200. System should be good as i only changed GPUs to newer.
I try to drive them now with these settings, maybe tomorrow i try to lift that memory little bit.

I understand, so try to leave memory at stock, there are some GPUs I had that didn't reach 900 (1800mhz) stable, and another boards need more than 800mv on memories

I have the same Asus 5600Xt and looking at your picture, you core clock is 1100mhz, mine is 1300, and my power consumption is 90w for 5600xt and 115w for 5700xt, maybe you need to get more power on these two boards to become stable

Ok, thanks, i updated the settings little bit and now i have been running rig 12hrs without crashes. (5600XT crashed). Now it shows 83w for 5600xt and 109w for 5700xt,
 i have to check the real value from the wall, not sure how close that 832w is now. ***(Checked 690W from wall)

Which miner are you using? I tryied first TRM and then changed to PM

https://ibb.co/z5CK6tV

[philipma1957]

3060ti is in.

an aorus 3060ti beautiful card.  One of the few times I felt guilty not gaming with a card.

Toying with it to see if I can get a stable 62mh

I can get a stable 61mh. which seems to be the better choice to shoot for with this card.

[adaseb]

Finally got my 4GB back in action again mining ETH. I assumed it would be troublesome and not worth the hassle but that lolminer program really works even with DAG >4GB. The speed I got before was like 29MH/s and now its 28.5MH/s. Power usage is slightly less probably due to the slower hashing speed.

Program seems stable and hasn't crashed yet. Pretty easy to set up, nothing to configure really just use the provided *.sh files and put in your own pool and address. Only thing is certain feature like ttli, or remote monitoring either aren't available or I can't get them to work.

Only issue is that this program will be good maybe for another month or 2 and then the speed will just be way too slow. I think by March or April it will hash at like 50% of the normal speed. But till then might as well use it. Hope the overall hashrate lowers even more with 4GB cards shutting down and E3 going offline.

[miner29]

i believe you will see the decrease in about 10 dags after the 4gb limit is actually hit.  Maybe sooner depending on os etc.  LOL posted a chart showing when it slowed and i want to say by like 7 dags its was down considerably.  Ill try to locate it.  Useful info....my 4gb are still going on linux.  

https://miro.medium.com/max/1272/1*0-s3IIh6azilwjnRjU9vsQ.png

There is the chart.  Looks like 50% is end of dec for windows and late jan 2021 for linux.   
You can mine longer but the penalty gets crazy.  Better to mine something else and exchange for eth (or whatever you want).

[adaseb]

i believe you will see the decrease in about 10 dags after the 4gb limit is actually hit.  Maybe sooner depending on os etc.  LOL posted a chart showing when it slowed and i want to say by like 7 dags its was down considerably.  Ill try to locate it.  Useful info....my 4gb are still going on linux. 

Yes this is the post he is referring too. Basically for some reason my rigs stopped on Epoch #381, while for others it should work until #382, strange. It seems that the speeds are "ok" until Epoch #385 which hashes at 82% from full speed, which is around year end. Epoch #390 and on are just not worth it at hashing 50% speed. So I would say you can use it for 3 more weeks and then think about getting 8GB gpus because its going to be highly unprofitable by then.


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Here is the post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281830.msg55389967#msg55389967

[rdluffy]

I have 3x 3080's
today my 1 3060ti comes in
It is all I have in the 3000 series.

Thanks, I thought you already have some 3070s 
In this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299500.0 there is a comparisson between 3060ti and 3070 and it looks almost the same, and I found some 3070s on stock easy and only 10% more expensive
I'm thinking on resale value, it's way better on 3070 instead of 3060ti

Ok, thanks, i updated the settings little bit and now i have been running rig 12hrs without crashes. (5600XT crashed). Now it shows 83w for 5600xt and 109w for 5700xt,
 i have to check the real value from the wall, not sure how close that 832w is now. ***(Checked 690W from wall)

Which miner are you using? I tryied first TRM and then changed to PM

https://ibb.co/z5CK6tV

It's good, now your rig is stable for at least 24h?
I'm using Phoenix Miner, latest version, in my rig works better than another miners, more stable, and I suspect it's something related to power, because another miners consume 10w less than Phoenix, but it's stable

[DrX]

Ok, thanks, i updated the settings little bit and now i have been running rig 12hrs without crashes. (5600XT crashed). Now it shows 83w for 5600xt and 109w for 5700xt,
 i have to check the real value from the wall, not sure how close that 832w is now. ***(Checked 690W from wall)

Which miner are you using? I tryied first TRM and then changed to PM

https://ibb.co/z5CK6tV

It's good, now your rig is stable for at least 24h?
I'm using Phoenix Miner, latest version, in my rig works better than another miners, more stable, and I suspect it's something related to power, because another miners consume 10w less than Phoenix, but it's stable
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Its stable, only that RX570 is doing loads of invalid shares. (XFX RX 570 RS 8GB XXX).
Straps are Pimped straps from SRBPolaris V3.5.

Ps. tested Lolminer on old RX470 4G cards, working nicely on HiveOs, still pushing over 29Mh/s.

[philipma1957]

Ok, thanks, i updated the settings little bit and now i have been running rig 12hrs without crashes. (5600XT crashed). Now it shows 83w for 5600xt and 109w for 5700xt,
 i have to check the real value from the wall, not sure how close that 832w is now. ***(Checked 690W from wall)

Which miner are you using? I tried first TRM and then changed to PM

https://ibb.co/z5CK6tV

"
It's good, now your rig is stable for at least 24h?"
I'm using Phoenix Miner, latest version, in my rig works better than another miners, more stable, and I suspect it's something related to power, because another miners consume 10w less than Phoenix, but it's stable

Its stable, only that RX570 is doing loads of invalid shares. (XFX RX 570 RS 8GB XXX).
Straps are Pimped straps from SRBPolaris V3.5.

Ps. tested Lolminer on old RX470 4G cards, working nicely on HiveOs, still pushing over 29Mh/s.

I tried cleaning up the quotes not sure if I did it correctly. as the bold type was rdluffy

29mh is 29 x 3.27 or 94 cents a day at viabtc. not bad for an old card

eth hash rate dropped a bit to 283th  as of dec 12

https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate

[DrX]

Next line is also rdluffys if you want to fix it 

Yeah, not bad. Those have been running from 2016 and 24/7, Sapphire Nitro RX470 4G.
Even original fans still running. Now they are going for friend as an space heater

[DigitalFarns]

I have a few more follow up questions, that I've been asking in private messages, but perhaps there are other newcomers here that would benefit from this discussion, so I am moving those questions to here.

• I believe I am going to be using simple mining OS to GPU mine ETH.  Is that the OS instead of using windows to drive the rig? 
• Is simple mining also the mining pool, or do I still need to get an account with a mining pool or two (I've read about having a backup pool)
• I've read that simple mining pays out every couple of weeks in BTC.  So it sounds like the convert the mined ETH to BTC and pay it that way, is this correct?  Would there be advantages or disadvantages to take the payment actually in ETH?  I guess I figured if I was mining ETH I was earning ETH... but if it's better to get paid in BTC, please elaborate?
• What is the URL I need to go to to get setup with a pool, etc? For Simple mining?

Thanks!

[philipma1957]

I have a few more follow up questions, that I've been asking in private messages, but perhaps there are other newcomers here that would benefit from this discussion, so I am moving those questions to here.

• I believe I am going to be using simple mining OS to GPU mine ETH.  Is that the OS instead of using windows to drive the rig? 
• Is simple mining also the mining pool, or do I still need to get an account with a mining pool or two (I've read about having a backup pool)
• I've read that simple mining pays out every couple of weeks in BTC.  So it sounds like the convert the mined ETH to BTC and pay it that way, is this correct?  Would there be advantages or disadvantages to take the payment actually in ETH?  I guess I figured if I was mining ETH I was earning ETH... but if it's better to get paid in BTC, please elaborate?
• What is the URL I need to go to to get setup with a pool, etc? For Simple mining?

Thanks!

Simple mining is a router service of sorts.

your rig ----- to simple mining ------- to many different pools ------ to your wallet



if  a rig is programed on simple miner  to mine eth at nice hash the bat for the program may look like this.

it would use phoenix miner software programmed below

phoenixminer-v5.2e
-eres 4 -pool daggerhashimoto.usa.nicehash.com:3353 -wal 33MP6oHLGnnrVAf1hC3WV2RBXZ2HNsexYw.zo -pass x -proto 4 -rmode 2 -stales 0

if mining raven on nice hash

   kawpowminer-v1.2.3-cuda10.2   
-P stratum+tcp://33MP6oHLGnnrVAf1hC3WV2RBXZ2HNsexYw.Ira2@kawpow.usa.nicehash.com:3385 --api-port 3333

that would show at nice hash if you click this link

https://www.nicehash.com/my/miner/33MP6oHLGnnrVAf1hC3WV2RBXZ2HNsexYw

I have a 2 card rig that mines at that address. click link and see it.

every 2 weeks or so it sends btc coin to

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/33MP6oHLGnnrVAf1hC3WV2RBXZ2HNsexYw

the advantages of using nicehash to convert what ever coin to btc are : less work to do

you can do this with out signing up for nicehash
you can send money to a cold wallet and simply hold the coin

you can send the coin to coinbase and simply hold the coin

you can send the coin to coinbase and cash it
you can send the coin to coinbase and trade it

is it better than sending you rig to say viabtc.com and mining eth directly maybe yes maybe no .

you are starting small to learn you can try simplemining to nicehash to btc to coinbase for a few payouts
then try simple mining to viabtc sending eth to coinbase.

you will have a small rig

 viabtc makes the eth grow to 0.20 = 120 usd high is about 65 days
nicehash makes the btc grow to 0.001 = 20 usd which is about 10 days

[adaseb]

Epoch #382 just hit and pretty much killed off all AMG 4G GPUs (unless running lolminer) and Antminer E3. Looking at one pool,
https://ethermine.org/statistics

It looks like so far ~15% of the hashrate has been removed from the network. The block times are longer according to, https://ethstats.net/ so I wonder how low it will keep on going. I am assuming 20-25% or so which is crazy high.

Regarding lolminer on 4GB GPUs? I will probably just remove them from my farm and sell them on Craigslist. Basically there are 3 issues with lolminer. One there is no remote monitoring, there is no GPU throttling under overheat, they crash every 3 hours on average and the worst of all is the speed reduction. Under Epoch #380, my GPUs ran at 29.5MH/s each, then #381 it ran at 28.5MH/s, and an hour ago the speed decreased even further and runs at 27.5MH/s. So basically not worth the headache. RIP 4GB.

[DrX]

I have a few more follow up questions, that I've been asking in private messages, but perhaps there are other newcomers here that would benefit from this discussion, so I am moving those questions to here.

• I believe I am going to be using simple mining OS to GPU mine ETH.  Is that the OS instead of using windows to drive the rig? 
• Is simple mining also the mining pool, or do I still need to get an account with a mining pool or two (I've read about having a backup pool)
• I've read that simple mining pays out every couple of weeks in BTC.  So it sounds like the convert the mined ETH to BTC and pay it that way, is this correct?  Would there be advantages or disadvantages to take the payment actually in ETH?  I guess I figured if I was mining ETH I was earning ETH... but if it's better to get paid in BTC, please elaborate?
• What is the URL I need to go to to get setup with a pool, etc? For Simple mining?

Thanks!

Here is my answer for these, no sure if i'm right but

-The two most common mining OS are the Linux based systems (SMOS, HiveOs etc.) and Windows (7, 8.1 but mostly 10).
-- I have been using Windows 7 & 10 and HiveOs (On HiveOS 1 rig is free)
---SMOS and HiveOs are easy if everything goes like it should but some linux knowledge does help if there is problems.
---Windows needs little bit more work at start (Auto login, stop updates, set Virtual Memory etc).

-Not sure if SMOS have own pool, HiveOS has but i would check https://etherscan.io/stat/miner?blocktype=blocks for other big pools. Customer service isn't really good in any of them, i think.
 Or you can use nicehash like Philipma said.

-who knows if it is better to change it now or later, it depends on you game. But BTC is easiest to change to $. If you planing of holding coins before changing to FIAT, you have to guess which will rise more
--You could try miningpoolhub, they also have auto-exchange to BTC or any other coin they have (Or you can keep Eth).
---I would NOT recommend holding much coins on pools. One day those can just disappear.

-There is usually help on pool site but for PM its normally "PhoenixMiner.exe -pool POOL:PORT -wal username.workername -pass x ..."

[CryptoKiraly]

i believe you will see the decrease in about 10 dags after the 4gb limit is actually hit.  Maybe sooner depending on os etc.  LOL posted a chart showing when it slowed and i want to say by like 7 dags its was down considerably.  Ill try to locate it.  Useful info....my 4gb are still going on linux. 

Yes this is the post he is referring too. Basically for some reason my rigs stopped on Epoch #381, while for others it should work until #382, strange. It seems that the speeds are "ok" until Epoch #385 which hashes at 82% from full speed, which is around year end. Epoch #390 and on are just not worth it at hashing 50% speed. So I would say you can use it for 3 more weeks and then think about getting 8GB gpus because its going to be highly unprofitable by then.

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*0-s3IIh6azilwjnRjU9vsQ.png



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Here is the post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281830.msg55389967#msg55389967
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So, I am using SMOS with PhoenixMiner v5.3-fix and have seen the expected dip in h/r with 4GB cards.  Even though this table shows that linux wont take a hit on Dec 11th, that is when my first hit occurred and then another one a few hours ago. I highly recommend this combo as it allows robust monitoring through SMOS dashboard.  Granted, that reduction is not optimal but certainly better than the alternative of not working at all and clearly still profitable at least for a few more weeks.

I just got my final 5600 XT today so will likely be converting over 1 of my 470 4GB rigs this weekend, then just let the other 3 chug away until no longer profitable.  From there, it's a question of whether top try to sell off all 4GB or mine something else with them.  Will be selling the ones off the new 5600XT rig so probably see how that goes then re-asses.  The somewhat silver lining is that with the huge GPU shortage, even these old cards are getting more on ebay. Of course, they will likely change when the glut of them hit in the coming months, but something to think about.

[digital$]

I have a few more follow up questions, that I've been asking in private messages, but perhaps there are other newcomers here that would benefit from this discussion, so I am moving those questions to here.

• I believe I am going to be using simple mining OS to GPU mine ETH.  Is that the OS instead of using windows to drive the rig? 
• Is simple mining also the mining pool, or do I still need to get an account with a mining pool or two (I've read about having a backup pool)
• I've read that simple mining pays out every couple of weeks in BTC.  So it sounds like the convert the mined ETH to BTC and pay it that way, is this correct?  Would there be advantages or disadvantages to take the payment actually in ETH?  I guess I figured if I was mining ETH I was earning ETH... but if it's better to get paid in BTC, please elaborate?
• What is the URL I need to go to to get setup with a pool, etc? For Simple mining?

Thanks!

Here is my answer for these, no sure if i'm right but

-The two most common mining OS are the Linux based systems (SMOS, HiveOs etc.) and Windows (7, 8.1 but mostly 10).
-- I have been using Windows 7 & 10 and HiveOs (On HiveOS 1 rig is free)
---SMOS and HiveOs are easy if everything goes like it should but some linux knowledge does help if there is problems.
---Windows needs little bit more work at start (Auto login, stop updates, set Virtual Memory etc).

consider minerstat as well, been running on win10.  stable, clean GUI everything just works

[arielbit]

Epoch #382 just hit and pretty much killed off all AMG 4G GPUs (unless running lolminer) and Antminer E3. Looking at one pool,
https://ethermine.org/statistics

It looks like so far ~15% of the hashrate has been removed from the network. The block times are longer according to, https://ethstats.net/ so I wonder how low it will keep on going. I am assuming 20-25% or so which is crazy high.

Regarding lolminer on 4GB GPUs? I will probably just remove them from my farm and sell them on Craigslist. Basically there are 3 issues with lolminer. One there is no remote monitoring, there is no GPU throttling under overheat, they crash every 3 hours on average and the worst of all is the speed reduction. Under Epoch #380, my GPUs ran at 29.5MH/s each, then #381 it ran at 28.5MH/s, and an hour ago the speed decreased even further and runs at 27.5MH/s. So basically not worth the headache. RIP 4GB.

LOL for some reason 2 rigs with 1080ti here joined the 4gb quitters dropped to 17-18mhs, tried the latest phoenix miner version but still sticking to 4gb dag generation, shifted to nbminer fixed the issue hehe.. some bunch of weirdos.

[DrX]

Epoch #382 just hit and pretty much killed off all AMG 4G GPUs (unless running lolminer) and Antminer E3. Looking at one pool,
https://ethermine.org/statistics

It looks like so far ~15% of the hashrate has been removed from the network. The block times are longer according to, https://ethstats.net/ so I wonder how low it will keep on going. I am assuming 20-25% or so which is crazy high.

Regarding lolminer on 4GB GPUs? I will probably just remove them from my farm and sell them on Craigslist. Basically there are 3 issues with lolminer. One there is no remote monitoring, there is no GPU throttling under overheat, they crash every 3 hours on average and the worst of all is the speed reduction. Under Epoch #380, my GPUs ran at 29.5MH/s each, then #381 it ran at 28.5MH/s, and an hour ago the speed decreased even further and runs at 27.5MH/s. So basically not worth the headache. RIP 4GB.

Same problem with hashrate, (HiveOS / Lolminer).
First card lost even more, from 29 -> 26 Mh/s.

[DigitalFarns]

---I would NOT recommend holding much coins on pools. One day those can just disappear.

I setup a nice hash account to poke around and see, as that was what Phil shared in an earlier post.  Obviously I won't be able to dive too deep until I get a rig setup... but it looks like it gives you a wallet to use on the site.  I saw something else that I can't find now, that said something to the effect of... they want you to use their on-site wallet, and if not, then you'll get paid a little less to use an offsite wallet. 

My gameplan early on, is to mine and hold.  I won't be reaching out so big with gear that I can't just afford to pay my power out of pocket.  It's really a small rig beginner step for me.  So I wouldn't be cashing anything out, not even to pay power at this point.  If I can get the hang of it, and start to expand as GPUs become available someday (lol!).  So that having been said, I'm wanting to keep the coins as secure as possible, and hoping to avoid fees along the way.  From what I gather, it seems you get charged every time you move your coins from here to there, it even looks like I will get charged moving from coinbase.com (where my only crypto presently resides) to the coinbase wallet app on my phone.  Seems that should all be internal and not cost fees.  But it doesn't look like that. 

So every time I cash out on Nice Hash, should I expect to pay a fee?  Would it be better to mine to a nice hash wallet until there's a set value there to justify paying a fee to move it elsewhere? 

* Also - am I over thinking this?  LOL.  I know I tend to...

[miner29]

Maybe take the payout to NH wallet but i sure wouldnt store ANY coins for anytime on a wallet i dont hold the seed.  I would recommend moving them out at regular intervals based to tx costs and value.   So yes figure out the fees and do what makes sense works for you.  I dont use NiceHack and i only mine to wallets i hold the seed for.   If NH holds the seed it is their wallet not yours.  

1st rule of crypto...he who holds the seed holds the coins.

[philipma1957]

---I would NOT recommend holding much coins on pools. One day those can just disappear.

I setup a nice hash account to poke around and see, as that was what Phil shared in an earlier post.  Obviously I won't be able to dive too deep until I get a rig setup... but it looks like it gives you a wallet to use on the site.  I saw something else that I can't find now, that said something to the effect of... they want you to use their on-site wallet, and if not, then you'll get paid a little less to use an offsite wallet. 

My gameplan early on, is to mine and hold.  I won't be reaching out so big with gear that I can't just afford to pay my power out of pocket.  It's really a small rig beginner step for me.  So I wouldn't be cashing anything out, not even to pay power at this point.  If I can get the hang of it, and start to expand as GPUs become available someday (lol!).  So that having been said, I'm wanting to keep the coins as secure as possible, and hoping to avoid fees along the way.  From what I gather, it seems you get charged every time you move your coins from here to there, it even looks like I will get charged moving from coinbase.com (where my only crypto presently resides) to the coinbase wallet app on my phone.  Seems that should all be internal and not cost fees.  But it doesn't look like that. 

So every time I cash out on Nice Hash, should I expect to pay a fee?  Would it be better to mine to a nice hash wallet until there's a set value there to justify paying a fee to move it elsewhere? 

* Also - am I over thinking this?  LOL.  I know I tend to...

  use an independent  address


https://www.nicehash.com/my/miner/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3


do not join nice hash. the address above is one I put in with simple miner

it cashs at 0.001 btc

 I do nothing it is on auto pilot


same with this address:

https://www.nicehash.com/my/miner/33MP6oHLGnnrVAf1hC3WV2RBXZ2HNsexYw