⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[mv1986]

It is not about the defeat in the first game, not at all. It is about the risk to lose and go into the Europa League. That would be a very dangerous strategy to just go for second place. They need to play their absolute best with the strongest squad possible. Anything else would be naive.

Do you believe Zenit will win the remaining two games and Chelsea will lose two Champions League games? In this case, the teams will only equal in points, so that the option in which Chelsea will not be able to leave the group, I think, is not even worth considering, because this will not happen. Chelsea will fight with Juventus for the first place in the group, and I think that in the second leg, Chelsea will not lose, because they will be more motivated to show who is stronger.

Keep in mind the mental pressure that would arise if Chelsea loses against Juventus, which could definitely happen. It is not impossible to lose against Juventus, I think we agree about that.

Now Zenit wins their game let's say and has 6 points, Chelsea has 9 points and the first leg between them was 1 - 0 for Chelsea at home. Now Chelsea has to play in St. Petersburg against a team that they only managed to beat 1 - 0 in the first leg and they know that if they are going to lose this one, it is going to be veery close. I am not saying it is likely, but I am saying that it wouldn't be the first time we get to see a situation where an underdog gets into a very wonderful position against a powerful team.

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[JeromeTash]

In the upcoming Champions League, many matches will be highlighted because this will be a decisive factor even though they have 2 matches in the Champions League as a preliminary round.

But here I highlight Mancity vs PSG will the hosts take revenge at the Etihad? This is the moment I've been waiting for and yesterday's defeat to PSG but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will be able to quell that revenge, now it's interesting for me although other matches also need to be watched.

Do you think Messi has a chance of playing in that match?

Last I remember, he was injured and didn't feature in PSG recent match and Argentina's win against Uruguay. Without him featuring in the Manchester City vs PSG game, there is that spice of hype that will miss in that game.
I would really love to see him play against his former boss.

[Furious 7]

In the upcoming Champions League, many matches will be highlighted because this will be a decisive factor even though they have 2 matches in the Champions League as a preliminary round.

But here I highlight Mancity vs PSG will the hosts take revenge at the Etihad? This is the moment I've been waiting for and yesterday's defeat to PSG but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will be able to quell that revenge, now it's interesting for me although other matches also need to be watched.

Do you think Messi has a chance of playing in that match?

Last I remember, he was injured and didn't feature in PSG recent match and Argentina's win against Uruguay. Without him featuring in the Manchester City vs PSG game, there is that spice of hype that will miss in that game.
I would really love to see him play against his former boss.

I believe Messi has a chance to play because he is an important role in this UCL game.

In fact, there are rumors about an internal investigation about Messi who is said to be injured at PSG because he cannot appear while in his country Argentina appears even as a substitute substitute.

Lionel Scaloni says Messi is doing well so he can play and this is different from PSG saying he is injured and can't defend, so which one is true? Is messi more important to Argentina and it costs PSG not to appear?

[nelson4lov]

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

That's a pretty bold claim - "Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team". In your opinion, this means that Villarreal will win as far as Ole is still in charge of Man Utd. I wouldn't say such about this man utd team. They can be unpredictable to an extent. Just a few weeks ago, Atalanta were 2 goals ahead of them and they came back to not just equalize but won the match. It's going to be an interesting match. Looking forward to it. Ole will prolly be sacked if he losses to Watford and Villarreal.

[mv1986]

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

That's a pretty bold claim - "Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team". In your opinion, this means that Villarreal will win as far as Ole is still in charge of Man Utd. I wouldn't say such about this man utd team. They can be unpredictable to an extent. Just a few weeks ago, Atalanta were 2 goals ahead of them and they came back to not just equalize but won the match. It's going to be an interesting match. Looking forward to it. Ole will prolly be sacked if he losses to Watford and Villarreal.

Yes even though I agree that Manchester is far away from a perfect shape and from using their full potential, they still have extremely strong players on the pitch who can decide the games for Manchester United regardless of who the coach is. It is true though that Manchester better wins against Watford or otherwise Solskjaer is in trouble, but anyway: they can beat Villareal anytime, but so an Villareal beat them. For me that game is totally open for any result to be the outcome.

[AndySt]

In the upcoming Champions League, many matches will be highlighted because this will be a decisive factor even though they have 2 matches in the Champions League as a preliminary round.

But here I highlight Mancity vs PSG will the hosts take revenge at the Etihad? This is the moment I've been waiting for and yesterday's defeat to PSG but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will be able to quell that revenge, now it's interesting for me although other matches also need to be watched.

Do you think Messi has a chance of playing in that match?
Last I remember, he was injured and didn't feature in PSG recent match and Argentina's win against Uruguay. Without him featuring in the Manchester City vs PSG game, there is that spice of hype that will miss in that game.
I would really love to see him play against his former boss.

In fact, Messi appeared in the Argentina national team at the end of the match with Uruguay for 15 minutes. And I would not be surprised if Messi appears in the upcoming match with Brazil in the starting lineup. Another question is in what condition Lionel will return to the club after that and whether he will get a new injury or just aggravate an old injury, because in this match Messi will have to play at full strength no matter what. By the way, Paris Saint-Germain already has a world-class star player in the person of Sergio Ramos, who was signed to solve serious problems, but who, due to injury, has not yet played a single official match for the new club. Therefore, of course, there are chances of Messi's participation in the upcoming PSG matches, but not 100 percent.

[mv1986]

In the upcoming Champions League, many matches will be highlighted because this will be a decisive factor even though they have 2 matches in the Champions League as a preliminary round.

But here I highlight Mancity vs PSG will the hosts take revenge at the Etihad? This is the moment I've been waiting for and yesterday's defeat to PSG but I'm sure Pep Guardiola will be able to quell that revenge, now it's interesting for me although other matches also need to be watched.

Do you think Messi has a chance of playing in that match?
Last I remember, he was injured and didn't feature in PSG recent match and Argentina's win against Uruguay. Without him featuring in the Manchester City vs PSG game, there is that spice of hype that will miss in that game.
I would really love to see him play against his former boss.

In fact, Messi appeared in the Argentina national team at the end of the match with Uruguay for 15 minutes. And I would not be surprised if Messi appears in the upcoming match with Brazil in the starting lineup.

This I am pretty sure about. The Argentinan coach knows that Messi wants to face Neymar and co. It is those games also where Messi usually is really good. He needs the challenge. That is also why I believe that he doesn't perform that well in the Ligue 1 against weaker teams, but already scored three times in the CL in three games.

[EdenHazard]

That is just the way many Italian Teams play, it seems as if they are allergic to holding to the ball for any amount of time but they are great at counterattacking, the national team of Italy has reached 6 finals and won 4 world cups by having the best defense possible, a great goalkeeper and a lethal striker that can score a goal with the limited opportunities he may get, so the fact that their opponent has the most opportunities to score or a very long possession of the ball does not matter at all because that is by design with many Italian teams.

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Well yeah actually i do like that kind situation, where the data says the one who dominating the game has more chance to score goal and win the match but with italian typical gameplay .. things went wild far from what the data shown which its good for us who love to chase for the huge odds on the underestimated side , i often receive an odds of 4.xx to 8.xx chasing this type of match.

beware of italian teams , but wait how long since the last time an italian team won champions league? lol it's been 11 years now! inter are the latest one in 2010, it's just shows how italian league left behind.

[alegotardo]

In fact, Messi appeared in the Argentina national team at the end of the match with Uruguay for 15 minutes. And I would not be surprised if Messi appears in the upcoming match with Brazil in the starting lineup. [...]

He will definitely play. Here in Brazil, all the TV channels say: Neymar's Brazil will play against Messi's Argentina.
Maybe they won't play the 90 minutes, but I would bet both players will take the field as a starter.

Of course my win bet is on the Brazilian team, but I hope to see a very close game with goals for both teams.
I just hope that Argentine players don't try to circumvent Brazil's health laws again.

[_BlackStar]

He will definitely play. Here in Brazil, all the TV channels say: Neymar's Brazil will play against Messi's Argentina.
Maybe they won't play the 90 minutes, but I would bet both players will take the field as a starter.

Of course my win bet is on the Brazilian team, but I hope to see a very close game with goals for both teams.
I just hope that Argentine players don't try to circumvent Brazil's health laws again.

If both players are fit enough to play then they will have the opportunity to do so from the first minute. Brazil vs Argentina is always a very tough match although many people will think Brazil will win that match. But I don't expect this match to be an easy one for Brazil because both will try to get maximum point. Brazil is not only Neymar and Argentina is not all about Messi because there are many other dangerous players who can score goals to win their country in that match.

For the Champions League match, PSG will play vs Manchester City which will be held in the next 10 days. This is the 5th match out of 6 match in the group, I'm sure these two team will qualify for the next round.

[blue Snow]

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal.

Villareal is strong at home, in the last 4 games they never got a loss, just a bit unfortunate loss against Osasuna. When talking about MU, we don't need too much hope, I just hope they don't stop until here. we won't be surprising if they lost again and again. It up to Ole, which strategy he wants to use, so far Ronaldo and Cavani (3-5-2) is the best formation he used, but when he uses Rashford, don't be hope to be win.

[Newlifebtc]

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

That's a pretty bold claim - "Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team". In your opinion, this means that Villarreal will win as far as Ole is still in charge of Man Utd. I wouldn't say such about this man utd team. They can be unpredictable to an extent. Just a few weeks ago, Atalanta were 2 goals ahead of them and they came back to not just equalize but won the match. It's going to be an interesting match. Looking forward to it. Ole will prolly be sacked if he losses to Watford and Villarreal.

The sack letter can just be handed over to ole,but seems like they want to lose against sides like Chelsea and Arsenal.
I doubt if Manchester United fans can take all of those defeats likely.
Claudio Ranieri knows how to play Manchester United very well, also Emery at Villarreal wasn't the type Ole won here in the premier league.

[mv1986]

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

That's a pretty bold claim - "Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team". In your opinion, this means that Villarreal will win as far as Ole is still in charge of Man Utd. I wouldn't say such about this man utd team. They can be unpredictable to an extent. Just a few weeks ago, Atalanta were 2 goals ahead of them and they came back to not just equalize but won the match. It's going to be an interesting match. Looking forward to it. Ole will prolly be sacked if he losses to Watford and Villarreal.

The sack letter can just be handed over to ole,but seems like they want to lose against sides like Chelsea and Arsenal.
I doubt if Manchester United fans can take all of those defeats likely.
Claudio Ranieri knows how to play Manchester United very well, also Emery at Villarreal wasn't the type Ole won here in the premier league.

Honestly speaking I am not that well informed how the current situation with Solskjaer is received by the fans. Aren't they on his side as he is a serious idol of the club and for the fans? He has done so much as a play for Manchester United that I can imagine they would be more patient with him?

[Maidak]

He will definitely play. Here in Brazil, all the TV channels say: Neymar's Brazil will play against Messi's Argentina.
Maybe they won't play the 90 minutes, but I would bet both players will take the field as a starter.

Of course my win bet is on the Brazilian team, but I hope to see a very close game with goals for both teams.
I just hope that Argentine players don't try to circumvent Brazil's health laws again.

If both players are fit enough to play then they will have the opportunity to do so from the first minute. Brazil vs Argentina is always a very tough match although many people will think Brazil will win that match. But I don't expect this match to be an easy one for Brazil because both will try to get maximum point. Brazil is not only Neymar and Argentina is not all about Messi because there are many other dangerous players who can score goals to win their country in that match.

For the Champions League match, PSG will play vs Manchester City which will be held in the next 10 days. This is the 5th match out of 6 match in the group, I'm sure these two team will qualify for the next round.

PSG vs Man City is going to be an interesting match. Because if PSG wins they will go ahead of Manchester City as they are currently in second place with eight points and man city is in first place with 9 points. I think Man City should win this match as their squad is more balanced.

[Velvet78]

I don't think that Ole's leave will magically change everything for Manchester United in a short time. I mean that they would still have a really hard time against Villarreal in their next Champions League game which is going to be even away. Manchester United will need time even if they decide to change their manager. They need to get accustomed to playing as a team in time. And this can happen only with a suitable game plan also. But it looks like Ole doesn't have the right game plan for this team.

[Iranus]

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal.

Villareal is strong at home, in the last 4 games they never got a loss, just a bit unfortunate loss against Osasuna. When talking about MU, we don't need too much hope, I just hope they don't stop until here. we won't be surprising if they lost again and again. It up to Ole, which strategy he wants to use, so far Ronaldo and Cavani (3-5-2) is the best formation he used, but when he uses Rashford, don't be hope to be win.

If there is any problem in Manchester United right now it has to be Ole. And I honestly think he is getting saved just because Ronaldo keeps scoring and saving the team at the last moment. Aur it had been more trouble for him. I think we all should realize that Manchester United didn't lose those matches because of Ronaldo's individual brilliance not because of the coach.

[Daniel91]

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal.

Villareal is strong at home, in the last 4 games they never got a loss, just a bit unfortunate loss against Osasuna. When talking about MU, we don't need too much hope, I just hope they don't stop until here. we won't be surprising if they lost again and again. It up to Ole, which strategy he wants to use, so far Ronaldo and Cavani (3-5-2) is the best formation he used, but when he uses Rashford, don't be hope to be win.

If there is any problem in Manchester United right now it has to be Ole. And I honestly think he is getting saved just because Ronaldo keeps scoring and saving the team at the last moment. Aur it had been more trouble for him. I think we all should realize that Manchester United didn't lose those matches because of Ronaldo's individual brilliance not because of the coach.

I would say Ronaldo is both a blessing and a curse to Manchester United.
The main problem is that Ronaldo doesn't play defense and therefore the cohesion of the team is disrupted, because in defense they have fewer players all the time.
The same problem exists in the Portuguese national team.
In modern football, as I mentioned in another post, all players have to play both defense and attack, and one player can't be more important than the whole team.
 

[DanWalker]

Manchester United are going to play an away game against Villarreal next time. And they have an English Premier League game against Watford before this one. In case they lose points there, we could see Manchester United sacking Ole Solskjaer and starting to search for a new manager before the game against Villarreal. Even though they win against Watford, I don't believe in Manchester United to win against Villarreal in this tough game. I think that both teams will score but Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team.

That's a pretty bold claim - "Villarreal won't lose unless Ole leaves the team". In your opinion, this means that Villarreal will win as far as Ole is still in charge of Man Utd. I wouldn't say such about this man utd team. They can be unpredictable to an extent. Just a few weeks ago, Atalanta were 2 goals ahead of them and they came back to not just equalize but won the match. It's going to be an interesting match. Looking forward to it. Ole will prolly be sacked if he losses to Watford and Villarreal.

The sack letter can just be handed over to ole,but seems like they want to lose against sides like Chelsea and Arsenal.
I doubt if Manchester United fans can take all of those defeats likely.
Claudio Ranieri knows how to play Manchester United very well, also Emery at Villarreal wasn't the type Ole won here in the premier league.

Honestly speaking I am not that well informed how the current situation with Solskjaer is received by the fans. Aren't they on his side as he is a serious idol of the club and for the fans? He has done so much as a play for Manchester United that I can imagine they would be more patient with him?

I think ole should be sacked nonetheless, he is not of much help to the team right now. Even I think he is causing more problems for the team. A better coach than him would surely dupatta with this type of squad. I think it is time we should understand that.

[KTChampions]

I would say Ronaldo is both a blessing and a curse to Manchester United.
The main problem is that Ronaldo doesn't play defense and therefore the cohesion of the team is disrupted, because in defense they have fewer players all the time.
The same problem exists in the Portuguese national team.
In modern football, as I mentioned in another post, all players have to play both defense and attack, and one player can't be more important than the whole team.

Nothing of the kind, Ronaldo fulfills all functions. If he hadn't been putting pressure on the opposing defenders (or even simply not being on the cutting edge of the attack, forcing them to retreat back to control his potential dash), then the attacking opponent could raise the midfield and defense lines very high, creating a large concentration of players near United's penalty area. What can we say about how he perfectly helps defenders when playing corners and standarts due to his excellent heading.

[masulum]

I think ole should be sacked nonetheless, he is not of much help to the team right now. Even I think he is causing more problems for the team. A better coach than him would surely dupatta with this type of squad. I think it is time we should understand that.

If Ole had coached another club, he might have been sacked earlier in the season. But, MU still trusts Ole, this is evidenced by a new contract and an extension option. I don't understand what United expect and also their targets. If target is not the title or just need to finish in the Big Four, of course there is nothing wrong with MU's decision to keep Ole. However, fans are fed up with the results obtained by Manchester United since Ole became Manchester United coach. Is there Ferguson behind Ole, so Manchester United still believe in Ole, or is there another factor that strengthens Ole's position.