⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[ralle14]

Liverpool winning big tonight should be difficult because... Diego Simeone

We'll see later today, I think they're in a good position to take the win at Anfield but yeah Atletico can still pose a threat even without Griezmann.

I also think Milan has a solid chance at winning since they really need all three if they plan on contesting the second slot.

I got both of them currently in a parlay and hopefully, both of them hits. 

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[KingsDen]

The stats of Ronaldo is amazing. He scored 5 goals for Manchester United in just 4 matches in Champions League. Without him, what position is for Manchester United?

The question should rather be how much more successful ManU would be without Ronaldo. The system of play has been changed by the signing him in such a way that it suits Ronaldo very well, but this deprives other players of their strength. Of course, Ronaldo can therefore always shine as a decision-maker, but basically at the expense of the team.
I'm convinced that ManU would be more successful than it currently is if Ronaldo wasn't in the team.

I disagree. Can we honestly ask and answer ourselves these questions?
1. How successful was Manchester United before Ronaldo's arrival?
Answer: Manchester was struggling as usual.
2. What of Manchester United style of play before Ronaldo's arrival?
Answer: There was no style of play but reliance on individuals which made Bruno as a midfielder scored the most goal.
3. What style is Manchester United playing now.
Answer: Maybe Ronaldo style.
Ronaldo should be praised for the continuous redemption of Manchester United and not the reverse.

[cygan]

Liverpool winning big tonight should be difficult because... Diego Simeone

We'll see later today, I think they're in a good position to take the win at Anfield but yeah Atletico can still pose a threat even without Griezmann.

I also think Milan has a solid chance at winning since they really need all three if they plan on contesting the second slot.

I got both of them currently in a parlay and hopefully, both of them hits. 

inter must win today away at sheriff to take the important 2nd place in the group.
also ac milan must win to still have a theoretical possibility of the 1/8 finals.
if liverpool wins today's game against atletico, the first place is almost impossible to take away from the english team.
ajax can also make everything clear today with an away win in dortmund and qualify for the next round as top of the table.

[cryptofrka]

I disagree. Can we honestly ask and answer ourselves these questions?
1. How successful was Manchester United before Ronaldo's arrival?
Answer: Manchester was struggling as usual.
2. What of Manchester United style of play before Ronaldo's arrival?
Answer: There was no style of play but reliance on individuals which made Bruno as a midfielder scored the most goal.
3. What style is Manchester United playing now.
Answer: Maybe Ronaldo style.
Ronaldo should be praised for the continuous redemption of Manchester United and not the reverse.

They were 2nd last season without Ronaldo.

I agree with some of your points though, Ronaldo has scored some huge goals for them already. The fact also remains that he is a man less in defence, they had to adapt their playstyle and they do look like a worse team overall than they were last season.

Ronaldo will do his part, that's what world class players do. However - I do think he wasn't the best fit for this United team, especially when he was brought in at such short notice.

[savetheFORUM]

Great to see some teams advancing to the round of 16 this early. They can already save some of their key players and let their youngsters add to their Champions League experience.

Ronaldo covered the blunders of goalkeeper and defender once again. That's what he's paid to do but his teammates can't go on like that. It's amazing that they are still on top of the group.

Ronaldo has been doing the best of his ability. During the second half he's restricted on playing short passes, because nobody is running to create shooting chances. Finally he took his chance and ended the match in a draw. This won't happen everytime. During the second half there were more counter attacks than the first half. Somehow he manages to keep the team on the top. For the effort he make, Ole should have some plans.

After having that result we can say Ronaldo for Champions League and Champions League for Ronaldo he is magician his effort give some more relief to Ole because the days were numbered for him on this job, but these two results can give him some more time.

But, the big issue is defense which is still creating problems for them, they need to fix this if they want to have some better result in next games. Today in second half he was really on good target and achieve for his all efforts. After having this draw now they still have some better chance for next round even now their next match is also very crucial against Villarreal as it's playing away they need to have some better performance for this match as well.

[jakdanyel]

I'm very sure now about that Juventus are a very interesting team.    They have been struggling in the Serie A in the recent times. However, they are doing a really great job in the Champions League now. They won all of their first four matches so far. Last night, they defeated Zenit by 4-2. And Dybala was absolutely the player of the match as he scored 2 goals and made 1 assist. I'm curious about until when they will keep up this very good work here.

[slaman29]

We'll see later today, I think they're in a good position to take the win at Anfield but yeah Atletico can still pose a threat even without Griezmann.

I also think Milan has a solid chance at winning since they really need all three if they plan on contesting the second slot.

I got both of them currently in a parlay and hopefully, both of them hits. 

OH I forgot he was red carded in the other round, now no wonder the odds are so big in Liverpool favor, was thinking of making some bets at Freebitco.in on Liverpool where it is still 2x (bookies all below 2x) but wondering what the trap was.

Milan is a natural choice too but for both Milan clubs I lose money on them a lot now all in UCL they make me so mad lol

[BALIK]

I disagree. Can we honestly ask and answer ourselves these questions?
1. How successful was Manchester United before Ronaldo's arrival?
Answer: Manchester was struggling as usual.
2. What of Manchester United style of play before Ronaldo's arrival?
Answer: There was no style of play but reliance on individuals which made Bruno as a midfielder scored the most goal.
3. What style is Manchester United playing now.
Answer: Maybe Ronaldo style.
Ronaldo should be praised for the continuous redemption of Manchester United and not the reverse.

They were 2nd last season without Ronaldo.
I agree with some of your points though, Ronaldo has scored some huge goals for them already. The fact also remains that he is a man less in defence, they had to adapt their playstyle and they do look like a worse team overall than they were last season.
Ronaldo will do his part, that's what world class players do. However - I do think he wasn't the best fit for this United team, especially when he was brought in at such short notice.

I wouldn't say that Ronaldo is unfit for United. Because for a top striker to score a better midfield is needed and United clearly has a deadly midfield with Pogba, Bruno. But the thing is that Ole is unable to utilize his squad to the fullest. Because maybe this is the 3rd time Ronaldo has scored in the injury time and saved the match for United. It is clear on the pitch how heavily they are relying on Ronaldo and Bruno. This needs to change.

[DU18]

I'm very sure now about that Juventus are a very interesting team.    They have been struggling in the Serie A in the recent times. However, they are doing a really great job in the Champions League now. They won all of their first four matches so far. Last night, they defeated Zenit by 4-2. And Dybala was absolutely the player of the match as he scored 2 goals and made 1 assist. I'm curious about until when they will keep up this very good work here.

Juventus victory today made Juventus win a ticket to the last 16 now, because apart from Chelsea, Juventus will not be overtaken now, with this victory, of course, now Juventus' steps are lighter in the league and can at least cover the bad results that occurred in the last three the last match in the league, besides that now juventus will be able to focus more on league matches because their burden in the champions league has been reduced.

[OcTradism]

Juventus victory today made Juventus win a ticket to the last 16 now, because apart from Chelsea, Juventus will not be overtaken now, with this victory, of course, now Juventus' steps are lighter in the league and can at least cover the bad results that occurred in the last three the last match in the league, besides that now juventus will be able to focus more on league matches because their burden in the champions league has been reduced.

Congrats Juventus for their win and a ticket to the next round of Champions League. It is good that they passed through the pressure from the win of Chelsea to win their match.

Their performance in Champions League and Serie A are completely different than AC Milan

In the past we have saying like Serie A for Juventus and Champions League for Milan. Now it looks to be very different. Obviously I wish that AC Milan will go next through the very close gate in order to help not only themselves but Serie A too. I have no worry that Milan will come back stronger next year in Champions League.

[Marykeller]

The stats of Ronaldo is amazing. He scored 5 goals for Manchester United in just 4 matches in Champions League. Without him, what position is for Manchester United?

The question should rather be how much more successful ManU would be without Ronaldo. The system of play has been changed by the signing him in such a way that it suits Ronaldo very well, but this deprives other players of their strength. Of course, Ronaldo can therefore always shine as a decision-maker, but basically at the expense of the team.
I'm convinced that ManU would be more successful than it currently is if Ronaldo wasn't in the team.

I disagree. Can we honestly ask and answer ourselves these questions?
1. How successful was Manchester United before Ronaldo's arrival?
Answer: Manchester was struggling as usual.
2. What of Manchester United style of play before Ronaldo's arrival?
Answer: There was no style of play but reliance on individuals which made Bruno as a midfielder scored the most goal.
3. What style is Manchester United playing now.
Answer: Maybe Ronaldo style.
Ronaldo should be praised for the continuous redemption of Manchester United and not the reverse.

Ronaldo is a bit too old to amount the type of support, the weight of all your expectations and aspirations the fans wants from him. But all the same, he still delivers. Ronaldo keeps saving Ole.
But the question is this: for how long will Ronaldo keep saving the team. Imagine Manchester United playing against Manchester City or Bayern. What will be their fate?

Great player, good team, but a huge absence of tactical coaching!!!.
Certainly no trophies for Manchester United this season!!!

[DU18]

Juventus victory today made Juventus win a ticket to the last 16 now, because apart from Chelsea, Juventus will not be overtaken now, with this victory, of course, now Juventus' steps are lighter in the league and can at least cover the bad results that occurred in the last three the last match in the league, besides that now juventus will be able to focus more on league matches because their burden in the champions league has been reduced.

Congrats Juventus for their win and a ticket to the next round of Champions League. It is good that they passed through the pressure from the win of Chelsea to win their match.

Their performance in Champions League and Serie A are completely different than AC Milan

In the past we have saying like Serie A for Juventus and Champions League for Milan. Now it looks to be very different. Obviously I wish that AC Milan will go next through the very close gate in order to help not only themselves but Serie A too. I have no worry that Milan will come back stronger next year in Champions League.

It looks like AC Milan magic in Europe has now disappeared and maybe it's because they have been out of European competition for too long, at the moment the two teams do have contrasting differences, Juventus are great in the Champions League but have had a bad season in the league and vice versa happened in ac milan, and what is interesting  that Juventus is the only Italian team that has managed to get full points in the champions league compared to the other three Italian teams so far, and this shows if perhaps their ambition right now is to win the champion league trophy.

[masulum]

It looks like AC Milan magic in Europe has now disappeared and maybe it's because they have been out of European competition for too long, at the moment the two teams do have contrasting differences, Juventus are great in the Champions League but have had a bad season in the league and vice versa happened in ac milan, and what is interesting  that Juventus is the only Italian team that has managed to get full points in the champions league compared to the other three Italian teams so far, and this shows if perhaps their ambition right now is to win the champion league trophy.

Yeah, Haard times for AC Milan, against FC Porto it was like a game of life and death. If AC Milan loses against Porto, AC Milan will most likely end up at the bottom of the table. This means that AC Milan will also fail to be able to play in UEL because in order to be in UEL, Milan must be in 3rd position. Indeed, there are still matches remaining vs. athletico and liverpool, but I think it will be difficult to win. Well, they are already try their best in UCL, but this group are really hard for young players.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

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I have no doubts about Juventus, we will see them in the semi-finals   because here is their only hope
I have another feeling about today's match sheriff vs Inter Milan  not so sure Inter won today my prediction is Sheriff win or draw, no reason just a personal hunch

would disagree about both, but not that much to put money on those

Juventus is having easy group, but they will be down after group stage, semi-final are far away
Inter should win against Sheriff, they are studied now, and it will not be easy for them to win, and against Inter does not matter is it home match or away, either way Inter will attack, and Sheriff will defend and try counter-attacks

Liverpool should be interesting tonight, and win should come

Juventus are indeed in the easy group but there is Chelsea  one of the candidates for champion and title holder last season the fact that Juventus already beat Chelsea in the first leg means that Juventus cannot be underestimated they can do anything unexpected. So far we can only predict so let's wait for the result.

[snipie]

Juventus victory today made Juventus win a ticket to the last 16 now, because apart from Chelsea, Juventus will not be overtaken now, with this victory, of course, now Juventus' steps are lighter in the league and can at least cover the bad results that occurred in the last three the last match in the league, besides that now juventus will be able to focus more on league matches because their burden in the champions league has been reduced.

Juve guaranteed the ticket but better to stay first in the list. Of course this will not have a big impact on their concentration in Serie A since they can rotate the squad but Juve isn't as successful in Serie A as in CL...
In the other games played yesterday, group G matches results were quite surprising imo and ManU escaped from a defeat..

[AakZaki]

I wouldn't say that Ronaldo is unfit for United. Because for a top striker to score a better midfield is needed and United clearly has a deadly midfield with Pogba, Bruno. But the thing is that Ole is unable to utilize his squad to the fullest. Because maybe this is the 3rd time Ronaldo has scored in the injury time and saved the match for United. It is clear on the pitch how heavily they are relying on Ronaldo and Bruno. This needs to change.

This dependence is caused by Ole not being able to create and utilize the players they have. From last season's statistics, Bruno was a midfielder who always appeared in every game. The midset of Ole's belief is already very much on Bruno. While there are many other great midfielders, I think Ole should be brave enough to make a change in his dependence on Bruno. For the front line, Ronaldo's arrival did bring about a change, but Ole should have given other young players the opportunity to make his mental strength,  because ronaldo won't be playing his dives, he's 35 years old.

[waelov]

Yesterday Ronaldo showed like he isn't aging like all the normal people.Being near 37 years old and playing like he did and scored two beautiful goals is not easy at this age.Also Manchester United is showing from game to game great team spirit and I think they will qualify further without any doubt but also in the Premier League starting maybe from January they will be the strongest team there once harmony is complete between players.

Paradoxical situation - Ronaldo is so cool and surprised everyone so many times that it is difficult to expect that he will surprise you again, but he does it again and again  Great player.
As for the prospects of United reaching the playoffs, they at least need to draw away with Villarreal, I cannot say that this is an unsolvable task, but it is not easy either.

After the Villarreal match, Ronaldo said that he did not play well, but he insisted that he had believed during the match that he would have a decisive influence and that he would be able to score, this amazing ability that is only available in Cristiano. In front of him and with his striving and belief in what he owns, he will achieve all of them.
Ronaldo's mentality in this regard is immeasurable.
We are talking about the top scorer of this historic planet. I just want you to imagine, a player after four months who will be 37 years old, but he has contributed half of United's goals since his return with a full 50% of goals in the presence of Rashford, Greenwood, Martial, Cavani and Sancho,

[panjul07]

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I have no doubts about Juventus, we will see them in the semi-finals   because here is their only hope
I have another feeling about today's match sheriff vs Inter Milan  not so sure Inter won today my prediction is Sheriff win or draw, no reason just a personal hunch

would disagree about both, but not that much to put money on those

Juventus is having easy group, but they will be down after group stage, semi-final are far away
Inter should win against Sheriff, they are studied now, and it will not be easy for them to win, and against Inter does not matter is it home match or away, either way Inter will attack, and Sheriff will defend and try counter-attacks

Liverpool should be interesting tonight, and win should come

Juventus are indeed in the easy group but there is Chelsea  one of the candidates for champion and title holder last season the fact that Juventus already beat Chelsea in the first leg means that Juventus cannot be underestimated they can do anything unexpected. So far we can only predict so let's wait for the result.

Talking about the chance for Juventus to go to Semi-Finals, I think we should wait for the draw of the play-off stage after the group stage first.
Although they did it great so far in the group stage with perfect points (12), but they may get much more harder match in the play-off.
Coming up to the win against Chelsea, I have to say it was a luck win because Chelsea were dominating the game but failed to score goals.

[DU18]

Juventus victory today made Juventus win a ticket to the last 16 now, because apart from Chelsea, Juventus will not be overtaken now, with this victory, of course, now Juventus' steps are lighter in the league and can at least cover the bad results that occurred in the last three the last match in the league, besides that now juventus will be able to focus more on league matches because their burden in the champions league has been reduced.

Juve guaranteed the ticket but better to stay first in the list. Of course this will not have a big impact on their concentration in Serie A since they can rotate the squad but Juve isn't as successful in Serie A as in CL...
In the other games played yesterday, group G matches results were quite surprising imo and ManU escaped from a defeat..

Yes indeed first place is better, but you can see if the juventus squad this season is not better and they have quite limited players in their front line, so allegry have to think hard to do each rotation of players in different competitions and we can see how Juventus suffered a slump when Morata and Dybala were injured some time ago. Manchester united Draw seems to make Ole's position more secure now and even if manchester wins but I'm not sure if it will make some fans who want Ole out will be happy .

[arallmuus]

The question should rather be how much more successful ManU would be without Ronaldo. The system of play has been changed by the signing him in such a way that it suits Ronaldo very well, but this deprives other players of their strength. Of course, Ronaldo can therefore always shine as a decision-maker, but basically at the expense of the team.

There is nothing wrong with that. You sign Ronaldo so the number 1 priority will be how to use Ronaldo as a player effectively. As for this moment, Ole cant use him effectively yet because he keep on rotating the players around and changing strategy at almost all matches. Besides that, having Ronaldo on the team is not the decisive factor because having one super star player in your team doesnt mean anything if the strategy is sucks