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November 22, 2021, 04:19:46 PM
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I would back Barcelona to win because I want to see them in their winning form. I want to see how the players performed under Xavi. Placing a bet for this match is really really risky, just let's just enjoy the match. But Barcelona should win this match in my opinion.

Did you watch barcelona vs espanyol match?
If you see it I think you will change your mind to bet your money in barcelona, ​​barcelona game is a bit changed compared to when it was coached by koeman but it looks like xavi still has a lot of homework to improve barcelona performance, in the first half Barcelona game was quite good, but in the second half I saw their stamina decreased quite drastically due to pressing on the opponent, even though Barcelona have the advantage as the home team, but I think Benfica will play aggressively enough to win the in match, moreover victory is an absolute requirement for Benfica to keep the chances of qualifying.

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November 22, 2021, 04:27:23 PM
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Many people underestimate the strength of Ajax. I would not be surprised if they can get get it into the final, depending of the drawings of course.
Can you really blame us if we don't think they can win against top teams in Europe? Great for them for doing well in their own group with a perfect record but they'll be facing tougher competitions next. We'll see how they do in the round of 16 and QF before we talk about the Finals. One step at a time.
I agree. Yes Ajax has a pretty strong team and did very well in their group so far but you also have to look at the other teams of this group. Sporting and Besiktas are only tier 3 teams in Europe at the moment in my opinion. Dortmund is a tier 2 team (just as Ajax) and in theory should be even a little stronger then Amsterdam, but when those 2 teams played against each other Dortmund was not in really great shape and did not have the momentum on their side as they had like 8 injured players including very important ones like Haaland and Guerreiro. So yes Ajax did a brilliant job so far in the group stage but we also must consider the circumstances.

I think at that time ajax had it a little easier than it could have been. But they have performed well then at that's what matters. It will be interesting to see how they perform in their upcoming matches if their opponent is quite strong at this point.

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November 22, 2021, 04:29:11 PM
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In the last match they played, Barcelona could not score in the flowing game, they scored from the penalty spot. I wonder how they will score in the flowing game. Xavi must first solve the problem on offense. Defensive weaknesses can be ignored as long as they can score.
Benfica game will not be easy. They gave very low odds to Barcelona, it's not worth the risk. I think they will win, but it won't be a simple win as this low rate shows.
Of course, Barcelona in this match only needs a victory in order to secure a place in the playoffs. And losing this match will amount to disaster, so the game can be neat. In the first match, Benfica at home beat Barcelona very confidently, I can't say if something has already changed in Barcelona, or if it's the same team only with a different coach. I think Barcelona will strive at least not to lose this match.

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November 22, 2021, 04:50:43 PM
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I would back Barcelona to win because I want to see them in their winning form. I want to see how the players performed under Xavi. Placing a bet for this match is really really risky, just let's just enjoy the match. But Barcelona should win this match in my opinion.
In the last match they played, Barcelona could not score in the flowing game, they scored from the penalty spot. I wonder how they will score in the flowing game. Xavi must first solve the problem on offense. Defensive weaknesses can be ignored as long as they can score.
Benfica game will not be easy. They gave very low odds to Barcelona, it's not worth the risk. I think they will win, but it won't be a simple win as this low rate shows.

Barcelona must try to heart and soul if they want to win this match. But first of all, they have to score and be accurate with their shots. As we know that scoring can be e difficult under the circumstances that Barcelona players are facing. But I think now that Xavi is there the morale of the there should be high. And I think they have to exploit the weakness in their opponent's defense with some really good through balls. They can take some chances with the crosses but I wonder if that will work.
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November 22, 2021, 06:15:49 PM
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Waiting for Carick's debut as a substitute coach for Man United. I didn't expect them to lose so much again. If we imagine when we play against Wtford (it seems weaker than Villareal) then it looks like Man United can be the source of Villareal's goals. Better quality UCL clubs I think can make that happen. But if Man United are able to appear confident then a draw is enough to make them qualify for the knockout stages.
Manchester united came as a guest to Villareal, Manchester players must appear confident in the champions league because this is an important match to qualify for the next round, let alone winning against Villareal then the points will be 10 and no one can overtake him.
If a draw with Villareal is enough then I'm pretty sure the last match with Young boys should be won.
Because Carrick took a very tough position and his first debut was in the Champions League.

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November 22, 2021, 06:18:22 PM
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Of course, Barcelona in this match only needs a victory in order to secure a place in the playoffs. And losing this match will amount to disaster, so the game can be neat. In the first match, Benfica at home beat Barcelona very confidently, I can't say if something has already changed in Barcelona, or if it's the same team only with a different coach. I think Barcelona will strive at least not to lose this match.

Barcelona need three points to secure the spot because their next game will be against Bayern which is very hard to win. They better beat Benfica and don't let any surprise to happen. I believe Xavi will prepare team well and we will see very different Barca than Koeman period. They will get the revenge of first game. If Depay will be in his form he can score. I wonder if Coutinho will play, he played only twenty minutes in last league game. Benfica is a strong team, I don't think they will underestimate eagles.
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November 22, 2021, 06:49:43 PM
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Of course, Barcelona in this match only needs a victory in order to secure a place in the playoffs. And losing this match will amount to disaster, so the game can be neat. In the first match, Benfica at home beat Barcelona very confidently, I can't say if something has already changed in Barcelona, or if it's the same team only with a different coach. I think Barcelona will strive at least not to lose this match.

Barcelona need three points to secure the spot because their next game will be against Bayern which is very hard to win. They better beat Benfica and don't let any surprise to happen. I believe Xavi will prepare team well and we will see very different Barca than Koeman period. They will get the revenge of first game. If Depay will be in his form he can score. I wonder if Coutinho will play, he played only twenty minutes in last league game. Benfica is a strong team, I don't think they will underestimate eagles.
Hopefully there will be changes after Xavi comes to save Barcelona, indeed this match is very important 3 points is to deliver him through but it looks like Xavi has a good plan and the game will be more solid considering Xavi has applied strict discipline.
The revenge must be carried out in Xavi's coaching period at least to reverse the previous goal but after all it is the 3 points that are important.
I think there will be more confidence in Barcelona's winning bet for now.

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November 22, 2021, 06:57:37 PM
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The previous match had to lose to Benfica 3-0 and it was still under Koeman's tutelage, but this UCL match will be very different of course Xavi wants to win and he has set the game strategy in UCL with Benfica I hope this will bring a good change where in the early game Xavi had enough to prove it.

The UCL opportunity for Barcelona for me is decisive if he wins then Barcelona will qualify if he loses then he has to give up leaving the UCL.
I'm sure Xavi can win easily, even though it's a UCL match.

the match against Benfica was a thrilling day for XAVI and also the barca players, they were forced to win that match. I'm personally optimistic that the barca players will get new enthusiasm from this former barca player (xavi) because actually the barca players are one of the best in the world, only at this time they lack motivation so they can easily lose to benfica in the previous match.

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November 22, 2021, 07:00:29 PM
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In the last match they played, Barcelona could not score in the flowing game, they scored from the penalty spot. I wonder how they will score in the flowing game. Xavi must first solve the problem on offense. Defensive weaknesses can be ignored as long as they can score.
Benfica game will not be easy. They gave very low odds to Barcelona, it's not worth the risk. I think they will win, but it won't be a simple win as this low rate shows.
Of course, Barcelona in this match only needs a victory in order to secure a place in the playoffs. And losing this match will amount to disaster, so the game can be neat. In the first match, Benfica at home beat Barcelona very confidently, I can't say if something has already changed in Barcelona, or if it's the same team only with a different coach. I think Barcelona will strive at least not to lose this match.
From laliga last game it seems that barcelona team still have issues and defensive ones i think xavi touch has not apeared yet so this benfica game will be difficult and tricky i think it will be difficult for them to win and the odd is quite low i think i will pass and do not bet on them.
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November 22, 2021, 08:06:44 PM
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For tomorrow's Champions League match, there are 2 matches that I'm interested in watching and they are:
  • Chelsea vs Juventus
  • Barcelona vs Benfica

Chelsea will be the favorites in the next game to win the game even though I know Juventus haven't lost in the group stage this time. Tuchel will try to maximize his players in this match even though both teams can certainly qualify for the next round. For Barcelona vs benfica I still have a little doubt about Barcelona even though Xavi has actually improved his team's performance after starting his first match yesterday with a 1-0 win. In general Barcelona may be starting to improve in term of attack, but they are still very weak in defense and Xavi will need to improve in this match if he is to win and qualify for the round 16.

Hopefully there will be changes after Xavi comes to save Barcelona, indeed this match is very important 3 points is to deliver him through but it looks like Xavi has a good plan and the game will be more solid considering Xavi has applied strict discipline.
The revenge must be carried out in Xavi's coaching period at least to reverse the previous goal but after all it is the 3 points that are important.
I think there will be more confidence in Barcelona's winning bet for now.
Also hoping to see them win, but a little hesitant just because the defense isn't great. Busquest doesn't appear to be playing in that match due to injury, so Xavi will definitely have to find a substitute who will replace him well enough.
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November 22, 2021, 08:26:29 PM
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For tomorrow's Champions League match, there are 2 matches that I'm interested in watching and they are:
  • Chelsea vs Juventus
  • Barcelona vs Benfica

Chelsea - Juve game is kinda pointless because both teams already guaranteed to advance to next round. There will be better options to watch tomorrow. I would rather watch Barca - Benfica game. Portuguese football is faster, we all know how Barca play and that would be more enjoyable game to watch. For earlier games I'd pick Bayern match although it would be exciting to see ManU struggling against Villarreal without their manager.
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November 22, 2021, 08:42:14 PM
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Manchester City - PSG is the game that I have been waiting for the most. It is a critical game regarding taking the lead in the group A. Manchester City have a good advantage here as they are going to play in Etihad Stadium. And they are the leader of the group now by only one point. If Manchester City win this game, they will guarantee their lead before even playing the last group game. But we should also keep in mind that PSG defeated City by 2-0 in Parc des Princes. So they won't give up on this game also undoubtedly. City need to attack with all they've got to win. This time both teams should be able to score.

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November 22, 2021, 08:55:50 PM
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In the last match they played, Barcelona could not score in the flowing game, they scored from the penalty spot. I wonder how they will score in the flowing game. Xavi must first solve the problem on offense. Defensive weaknesses can be ignored as long as they can score.
Benfica game will not be easy. They gave very low odds to Barcelona, it's not worth the risk. I think they will win, but it won't be a simple win as this low rate shows.
Of course, Barcelona in this match only needs a victory in order to secure a place in the playoffs. And losing this match will amount to disaster, so the game can be neat. In the first match, Benfica at home beat Barcelona very confidently, I can't say if something has already changed in Barcelona, or if it's the same team only with a different coach. I think Barcelona will strive at least not to lose this match.
From laliga last game it seems that barcelona team still have issues and defensive ones i think xavi touch has not apeared yet so this benfica game will be difficult and tricky i think it will be difficult for them to win and the odd is quite low i think i will pass and do not bet on them.
Barcelona next UCL match against Benfica will be like the real test and assessment of Xavi after taking over the job, a win for Barcelona will prove that Xavi impact had started working for the club, though putting the team in the proper and winning requires some time, however I believe Xavi will make a difference as far managing the team is concerned , fans and supporters will have to be patience and persevere I am sure the team will bounce back with  full force just like the past era of the club

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November 22, 2021, 09:07:12 PM
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Manchester City - PSG is the game that I have been waiting for the most. It is a critical game regarding taking the lead in the group A. Manchester City have a good advantage here as they are going to play in Etihad Stadium. And they are the leader of the group now by only one point. If Manchester City win this game, they will guarantee their lead before even playing the last group game. But we should also keep in mind that PSG defeated City by 2-0 in Parc des Princes. So they won't give up on this game also undoubtedly. City need to attack with all they've got to win. This time both teams should be able to score.
I say it is revenge time, City is getting better and better and I am not so sure about PSG since I don't watch French league but from the reports they are not very convincing. I don't think there is a club with longer bench then City (maybe Chelsea) at the moment which will come very handy in this busy schedule.

United game is though to bet on since we don't know if the players wanted to get rid of Ole, could be much better performance from them now. Both to score looks like best option for me since you can't start playing defense immediately, that takes time to click into place.

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November 22, 2021, 09:45:53 PM
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I agree. Yes Ajax has a pretty strong team and did very well in their group so far but you also have to look at the other teams of this group. Sporting and Besiktas are only tier 3 teams in Europe at the moment in my opinion. Dortmund is a tier 2 team (just as Ajax)
I held back from describing them so as not to trigger their fans here and give respect to those teams but you went for it hehe.

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If a draw with Villareal is enough then I'm pretty sure the last match with Young boys should be won.
Carrick already said they plan to win it but this is the result I'm expecting for this match. I'm not sure how he will approach the game but missing out on key players like Pogba and Varane is a huge blow.
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November 22, 2021, 10:32:19 PM
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How could they think that Messi was the problem, when Messi even said that he will play for half of his wage just to play for Barcelona. I think the board has become delusional and cannot take any decision with A straight mind.
Instead of accepting the blame for their mistakes they are looking for a scapegoat, the problem is that it does not make sense at all to blame Messi, he was one of the main reasons Barcelona has been as successful as it was, he brought a lot of revenue to the club by selling their merchandise, brought a huge number of fans which increased the revenue they got from TV rights and he did not managed the money of the club, besides by creating this kind of fight between the club and Messi they are forcing the fans to pick a side, and most of the time the fans will side with the player that has brought them so much joy over the years.
Everyone has the right to their point of view, but in my humble opinion it is extremely stupid to associate the current not the best position of Barcelona with the figure of Messi. I think Messi may well play for Barcelona not even for half of his current salary, but for one percent Wink But not now, but in a few years when the career of a football player will already be at sunset and the football player will at least want to help his hometown club, like Alves who agreed to play for the lowest salary in the club Grin Well, now, while Lionel is still in a pretty good condition, the hopes of Messi returning to the club for the sake of playing for pennies are very, very naive.

Well, I think that Messi actually should not come back to Barcelona just because of his self-respect. I mean after doing so much for a club and with the club when they don't give you any respect, there are some problems. There could be more problems in the future also. And I also think that Messi will think something like that too.

come back as a player I doubt that will happen, maybe he can come back to occupy some management position



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does anyone believe that manchester united can win? I doubt it. I'm going to bet on Villarreal, I think they'll win by at least 1 goal

FC Dynamo Kiev - FC Bayern Munich

after Bayern Munich's last game they only managed to score 1 goal, you get the impression that for this game they will win but won't score as many goals as usual

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November 22, 2021, 10:38:21 PM
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^  I wouldn’t be so quick to discount Man United when it comes to midweek CL football.  They seem to win it with Ronaldo usually getting the last goal in.  Lolol.  How many times have we heard that ‘Ooops I did it again’ song played in the background during Ronaldo’s post match interview?  Cheesy

And not just that...  Villareal hasn’t really been doing very well in La Liga too.  Between the two, United is slightly doing better in their respective leagues.

Anyway my only bet:  Liverpool to win vs Porto at 1.98.  But not too confident.

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Last edit: November 23, 2021, 12:27:38 AM by AndySt
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Everyone has the right to their point of view, but in my humble opinion it is extremely stupid to associate the current not the best position of Barcelona with the figure of Messi. I think Messi may well play for Barcelona not even for half of his current salary, but for one percent Wink But not now, but in a few years when the career of a football player will already be at sunset and the football player will at least want to help his hometown club, like Alves who agreed to play for the lowest salary in the club Grin Well, now, while Lionel is still in a pretty good condition, the hopes of Messi returning to the club for the sake of playing for pennies are very, very naive.
Well, I think that Messi actually should not come back to Barcelona just because of his self-respect. I mean after doing so much for a club and with the club when they don't give you any respect, there are some problems. There could be more problems in the future also. And I also think that Messi will think something like that too.
come back as a player I doubt that will happen, maybe he can come back to occupy some management position

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does anyone believe that manchester united can win? I doubt it. I'm going to bet on Villarreal, I think they'll win by at least 1 goal
FC Dynamo Kiev - FC Bayern Munich
after Bayern Munich's last game they only managed to score 1 goal, you get the impression that for this game they will win but won't score as many goals as usual
Anything is possible, but not in the near future. Messi has his own goals and priorities for the near future and leaving Paris Saint-Germain is clearly not one of them. There is information that the Argentine is not considering returning to Barcelona and does not want to leave Paris Saint-Germain and wants to win the Champions League with the club, despite the fact that not everything is working out at the new club yet. Manchester United's business in the Champions League is not so bad and the fact of the coach's resignation can also play a positive role. Therefore, I would still not give an unconditional advantage to Villarreal. And yes, the Champions League is a separate tournament and the results there can be radically different from the results in the national championship. Milan won't let me lie Grin
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November 23, 2021, 12:00:20 AM
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Many people underestimate the strength of Ajax. I would not be surprised if they can get get it into the final, depending of the drawings of course.
Ajax has been amazing in the in their league this season,no doubt,they also done very well even in the champions league,but getting to the final might not just be easy for them,because we have teams that more inform than them.Teams that are very ready for the Champions league trophy.

Bayern are one of my favourite contenders to this tittle,they have almost everything  a team can ever have,the front,the backline and the midfield are all intact,packed with experience.To me,I think they can get to the final.
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November 23, 2021, 01:25:23 AM
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Villarreal CF - Manchester United FC

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does anyone believe that manchester united can win? I doubt it. I'm going to bet on Villarreal, I think they'll win by at least 1 goal


MU will be in trouble when lost tonight if in the other place Atalanta got a win also. their fate will be decided on the next game vs young boy which is possible need hard work with a new formation that is not solid yet. Villareal will revenge at home, furthermore, they aren't good also on La Liga after getting a tie versus Celta, this means both have the same strength. If the new strategy can be applied and suitable that possible MU will be got 3 points tonight.

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