⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[nurilham]

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If this continues and many players are infected by Covid, the matches should be postponed. It is too risky for all players if the matches continue during a huge Covid spread. I am not sure all clubs agree to allow their players to play if the situation gets worse. It is only about the time when the competition will be stopped temporarily if there is no positive progress on the virus spread. I guess there will be an announcement about the temporary suspension of all football competitions.

[KTChampions]

Past achievements are worthless, so they can be ignored. This season, Simeone received the world's strongest (as it seemed at the beginning of the season) bunch of strikers Suarez + Greenzman, and how did he dispose of it? Atlético continued to play tedious defensive football, which yielded mediocre results all season (they miraculously got into the Champions League playoffs and their position in La Liga is weak). What is the likelihood that Simeone will be able to radically change something? Historically, I see that it is very small. What is the likelihood that a great team (in composition) will finally start to play well? Much more since real changes are taking place in United (for example, a change of coach).

Atletico's defense is quite strong. Besides that, the counter-attack by Diego Simoeone's team is also very dangerous because they always counterattack quickly so MU must be vigilant.
but maybe if compared to Atletico's performance is better than MU at this time depending on how Rangnick can mix something new or not now because the possibility of MU will lose is quite large

Even in the Spanish championship, Atletico concedes more than one goal in one game - this season their main feature (defense) is not yet as good as usual. In the Champions League, they conceded 5 goals in two matches with Liverpool, United are certainly far from Liverpool's effectiveness in attack at the moment, but we can see the "strength" of Atlético in defense from these results.

[Jackl87]

Past achievements are worthless, so they can be ignored. This season, Simeone received the world's strongest (as it seemed at the beginning of the season) bunch of strikers Suarez + Greenzman, and how did he dispose of it? Atlético continued to play tedious defensive football, which yielded mediocre results all season (they miraculously got into the Champions League playoffs and their position in La Liga is weak). What is the likelihood that Simeone will be able to radically change something? Historically, I see that it is very small. What is the likelihood that a great team (in composition) will finally start to play well? Much more since real changes are taking place in United (for example, a change of coach).

Atletico's defense is quite strong. Besides that, the counter-attack by Diego Simoeone's team is also very dangerous because they always counterattack quickly so MU must be vigilant.
but maybe if compared to Atletico's performance is better than MU at this time depending on how Rangnick can mix something new or not now because the possibility of MU will lose is quite large

Even in the Spanish championship, Atletico concedes more than one goal in one game - this season their main feature (defense) is not yet as good as usual. In the Champions League, they conceded 5 goals in two matches with Liverpool, United are certainly far from Liverpool's effectiveness in attack at the moment, but we can see the "strength" of Atlético in defense from these results.

It is true that Atletico might not look as good at the moment or in this season in general as they did in the last few years. As a bayern supporter i was still very happy as i heard that the drawing of the knock out stage had to be repeated as bayern had to face Atletico at that point  . I was hoping that Bayern could avoid Chelsea and Atletico...PSG would have also been a tough draw but i definitley would have picked Paris as Bayerns opponent over Atletico if i had to choose. Atletico under Diego Simeone is always extremely hard to play against, especially in knock out games because his players are extremely motivated and they don't hesitate to do nasty and illegal stuff too in order to win.

[Bohdan820]

It is true that Atletico might not look as good at the moment or in this season in general as they did in the last few years. As a bayern supporter i was still very happy as i heard that the drawing of the knock out stage had to be repeated as bayern had to face Atletico at that point  . I was hoping that Bayern could avoid Chelsea and Atletico...PSG would have also been a tough draw but i definitley would have picked Paris as Bayerns opponent over Atletico if i had to choose. Atletico under Diego Simeone is always extremely hard to play against, especially in knock out games because his players are extremely motivated and they don't hesitate to do nasty and illegal stuff too in order to win.
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If you are a bayern supporter then you shouldn't worry about anything. At the moment in the tournament there are only 3 clubs from England that are on a level with Bayern, everyone else is weaker.
PSG is weak because only 7 people play in defense, there are no questions about attack but football is not only a game of attack, balance is important but in PSG this is a problem.
Atlético is not the same monster in defense as it used to be. Real Madrid's defense was it ever a problem for Lewandowski?

[CryptoBuds]

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If this continues and many players are infected by Covid, the matches should be postponed. It is too risky for all players if the matches continue during a huge Covid spread. I am not sure all clubs agree to allow their players to play if the situation gets worse. It is only about the time when the competition will be stopped temporarily if there is no positive progress on the virus spread. I guess there will be an announcement about the temporary suspension of all football competitions.

Coronavirus eradication is not possible. It is possible to reduce the infection if the players are aware. Players should be more aware. If the transmission continues to grow, clubs will again ban spectators from entering the stadium. Moreover the matches will be posponed. Which would be very annoying for both the spectators and the club. It is not possible to get rid of coronavirus without being aware of the health of the players.

[poldanmig]

There are still months to go for the last 16 matchups to be played in the Champions League. And the covid-19 situation is getting heavier in Europe now. Therefore, I think that it is really difficult to comment on the matches. For example, Virgil van Dijk, Fabinho and Curtis Jones tested positive for covid-19 at Liverpool today and they couldn't play in the Newcastle match.

If the corona virus is spreading now, of course it is not impossible that uefa will stop the champions league competition for a while, several clubs in europe have confirmed that many of their players have contracted the corona virus and make them have to postpone the current match in the league domestic and European competitions.

[lixer]

There are still months to go for the last 16 matchups to be played in the Champions League. And the covid-19 situation is getting heavier in Europe now. Therefore, I think that it is really difficult to comment on the matches. For example, Virgil van Dijk, Fabinho and Curtis Jones tested positive for covid-19 at Liverpool today and they couldn't play in the Newcastle match.

If the corona virus is spreading now, of course it is not impossible that uefa will stop the champions league competition for a while, several clubs in europe have confirmed that many of their players have contracted the corona virus and make them have to postpone the current match in the league domestic and European competitions.

Currently, the situation is under control in few countries, just England is facing some serious trouble with this, and it's happening just because of their soft policy which is now creating serious problems for them. Now their next decision is they need to stick with this all because it's very important for safety about Champions League now we have two months break hopefully in this time we will have some better improvement because it's very important for this season and all countries now in next few month's soccer world could be very busy with many events coming so postponing any event is going to be very bad for all.

But right now we can't talk about this all, right now we have only one thing in hand, and it's wait and watch, hopefully all will be good for all parties.

[püsür]

There are still months to go for the last 16 matchups to be played in the Champions League. And the covid-19 situation is getting heavier in Europe now. Therefore, I think that it is really difficult to comment on the matches. For example, Virgil van Dijk, Fabinho and Curtis Jones tested positive for covid-19 at Liverpool today and they couldn't play in the Newcastle match.

If the corona virus is spreading now, of course it is not impossible that uefa will stop the champions league competition for a while, several clubs in europe have confirmed that many of their players have contracted the corona virus and make them have to postpone the current match in the league domestic and European competitions.

The situation, hopefully, will not be that bad. The winter of course might be very hard, considering the relatively high number of cases, but I cannot imagine we will go back to quarantine times like 2020. At least there should be CL and UEFA league games without the crowd. Just personally, I cannot bear to live without these normal things we took for granted.

[Rengga Jati]

At least there should be CL and UEFA league games without the crowd.

The problem is many players got infected by the Covid. It harms the clubs who lose a lot of players, especially losing their key players because they must be quarantined. It is surely not as simple as we think, Covid transmission is just starting and looks to increase quickly. The best option is absolutely to stop CL, UEFA, and also local league competitions. Even with no crowd, cannot solve the problem because the real problem comes from many aspects.

[Woodie]

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If this continues and many players are infected by Covid, the matches should be postponed. It is too risky for all players if the matches continue during a huge Covid spread. I am not sure all clubs agree to allow their players to play if the situation gets worse. It is only about the time when the competition will be stopped temporarily if there is no positive progress on the virus spread. I guess there will be an announcement about the temporary suspension of all football competitions.

The only problem that might arise from postponing such competitions is counter measures which will not be liked by many such as mandatory vaccination which i see will be the next thing to follow. Of course many will see this as suppressing human rights but its the only way or we might see the game we love indefinitely suspended as Covid is not fully under our control.

[AndySt]

It is true that Atletico might not look as good at the moment or in this season in general as they did in the last few years. As a bayern supporter i was still very happy as i heard that the drawing of the knock out stage had to be repeated as bayern had to face Atletico at that point  . I was hoping that Bayern could avoid Chelsea and Atletico...PSG would have also been a tough draw but i definitley would have picked Paris as Bayerns opponent over Atletico if i had to choose. Atletico under Diego Simeone is always extremely hard to play against, especially in knock out games because his players are extremely motivated and they don't hesitate to do nasty and illegal stuff too in order to win.

If you are a bayern supporter then you shouldn't worry about anything. At the moment in the tournament there are only 3 clubs from England that are on a level with Bayern, everyone else is weaker. PSG is weak because only 7 people play in defense, there are no questions about attack but football is not only a game of attack, balance is important but in PSG this is a problem. Atlético is not the same monster in defense as it used to be. Real Madrid's defense was it ever a problem for Lewandowski?

Let the Atletico defense is not so effective now, but Diego Simeone still has two months left to fix the situation with the defensive game for the better. It's one thing if the matches were held here and now, but it's quite another what the layouts will be closer to the matches themselves. A classic case in football tournaments is the fact that a team that is not a favorite approaches in the best conditions in the decisive matches and wins the tournament. In this case, we can recall about Chelsea in the last Champions League draw, when few people could initially assume that the team would reach the final. And Chelsea not only reached the final, but also took the title, winning against the favorite in the person of Manchester City.

[EdenHazard]

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If this continues and many players are infected by Covid, the matches should be postponed. It is too risky for all players if the matches continue during a huge Covid spread. I am not sure all clubs agree to allow their players to play if the situation gets worse. It is only about the time when the competition will be stopped temporarily if there is no positive progress on the virus spread. I guess there will be an announcement about the temporary suspension of all football competitions.

The only problem that might arise from postponing such competitions is counter measures which will not be liked by many such as mandatory vaccination which i see will be the next thing to follow. Of course many will see this as suppressing human rights but its the only way or we might see the game we love indefinitely suspended as Covid is not fully under our control.

A lot will be affected aside from how the people safety come first.

sports economic will be in another dip , and those who have a lot of debt would be mad now as they are on its way to recovering... but then feel like stoped.
barcelona for instance, they are in tough situation as debt getting increased but income got cut.
the covid shit are something that we wish to disappear next year but it seems things went wild for the second time.

[Alanaz]

At least there should be CL and UEFA league games without the crowd.

The problem is many players got infected by the Covid. It harms the clubs who lose a lot of players, especially losing their key players because they must be quarantined. It is surely not as simple as we think, Covid transmission is just starting and looks to increase quickly. The best option is absolutely to stop CL, UEFA, and also local league competitions. Even with no crowd, cannot solve the problem because the real problem comes from many aspects.

Transmission occurs on a large scale and is very difficult to anticipate because indeed this spread we do not know from where and who is infected when there is no further check.
On the other hand, it's a loss for sure because there will be a lot of impacts that will occur when their players are exposed to this epidemic.
the strongest example is now tttenham where many of them are in quarantine and made some matches postponed

[coderben]

I really hope that we can take control of Omicron variant also until the last 16 round starts. Because the virus has started to dominate various sports again and football is one of them now unfortunately. We already see in big leagues that many players started becoming ill due to covid-19 and many games have been postponed so far. If it goes on like this, it would probably affect the Champions League and the rest of the European tournaments really badly.

[KTChampions]

Even in the Spanish championship, Atletico concedes more than one goal in one game - this season their main feature (defense) is not yet as good as usual. In the Champions League, they conceded 5 goals in two matches with Liverpool, United are certainly far from Liverpool's effectiveness in attack at the moment, but we can see the "strength" of Atlético in defense from these results.

It is true that Atletico might not look as good at the moment or in this season in general as they did in the last few years. As a bayern supporter i was still very happy as i heard that the drawing of the knock out stage had to be repeated as bayern had to face Atletico at that point  . I was hoping that Bayern could avoid Chelsea and Atletico...PSG would have also been a tough draw but i definitley would have picked Paris as Bayerns opponent over Atletico if i had to choose. Atletico under Diego Simeone is always extremely hard to play against, especially in knock out games because his players are extremely motivated and they don't hesitate to do nasty and illegal stuff too in order to win.

I don't think Bayern would have experienced any problems with Atlético, but of course it is more profitable to play two easy games with Salzburg than two tight games with Atlético. By the way, Bayern Munich turned out to be very lucky - it got the weakest opponent in the draw, and the variant of such a pair was the least likely:

[Pmalek]

Inter Milan is the Serie A champion and now they are the league leader. They will the tough challenge for Liverpool somehow. But if you want to reach the trophy, you must to overcome all of challenge, even we have to against the hardest teams. Honestly, No one is strong or weak here, the strongest is the one stand till end of the campaign.

I beg to disagree. I don't think Inter has big chances to get a positive result against a Liverpool team if they play with full strength. I don't even see Inter drawing the first match on Giuseppe Meaza. I think Liverpool will win both encounters. Liverpool is levels above Inter and all Italian teams for that matter. We have seen how Italian teams played the group stages and what they were capable of delivering. Milan vs Liverpool for example. Juventus barely won their home game against Chelsea, but got destroyed in London with 4 conceded goals. Napoli and Atalanta didn't even reach the knockout stages despite their attractive style of football.   

[hahay]

I really hope that we can take control of Omicron variant also until the last 16 round starts. Because the virus has started to dominate various sports again and football is one of them now unfortunately. We already see in big leagues that many players started becoming ill due to covid-19 and many games have been postponed so far. If it goes on like this, it would probably affect the Champions League and the rest of the European tournaments really badly.

Christmas and New Year are just around the corner, I think it will be an opportunity for them to take a league break during that period of time. Indeed, players may be going on vacation but I think management can give a warning to maintain health to avoid being exposed to the virus, so as much as possible they try to rest and or quarantine completely so that this spread does not get bigger. It is very worrying indeed when many players have been affected, of course this case will make the league which will also run in the middle of the season again falter.

[Boristhecat]

Christmas and New Year are just around the corner, I think it will be an opportunity for them to take a league break during that period of time. Indeed, players may be going on vacation but I think management can give a warning to maintain health to avoid being exposed to the virus, so as much as possible they try to rest and or quarantine completely so that this spread does not get bigger. It is very worrying indeed when many players have been affected, of course this case will make the league which will also run in the middle of the season again falter.

I wonder how the issue will be resolved if there are local outbreaks of the virus in individual teams. It is impossible to postpone the entire tournament, but it is also impossible to force City or Liverpool to play with the second line-up, as this will violate the logic of the tournament and give a huge advantage to the opponents. I would like to be mistaken, but most likely many decisions await us that will be absurd and unfair but inevitable because of this whole situation.

[AakZaki]

After seeing the matchups, it is going to be really difficult for me to wait for some of them for two months.    I mean especially the PSG - Real Madrid matchup. PSG are going to be the advantageous team in the first leg of this matchup. As I want them to advance, I hope that they can get a nice score at the end of the match. Even if they win by one goal, I believe that they would be advancing by finishing the job in the second leg.

Home away system there will be those who feel lucky and not. But for the hosts of the first leg they have to win big to make them a little comfortable. But in the PSG vs Madrid game this time I don't think they will score many goals. If one wins maybe they will win by a margin of 1 goal. Both teams are great teams, but as a Madrid fan I chose Madrid to win and qualify at the next phase. Obviously there's a winter break and player transfers. At least it will be hard to guess who will qualify.

[bekti3]

Christmas and New Year are just around the corner, I think it will be an opportunity for them to take a league break during that period of time. Indeed, players may be going on vacation but I think management can give a warning to maintain health to avoid being exposed to the virus, so as much as possible they try to rest and or quarantine completely so that this spread does not get bigger. It is very worrying indeed when many players have been affected, of course this case will make the league which will also run in the middle of the season again falter.

I wonder how the issue will be resolved if there are local outbreaks of the virus in individual teams. It is impossible to postpone the entire tournament, but it is also impossible to force City or Liverpool to play with the second line-up, as this will violate the logic of the tournament and give a huge advantage to the opponents. I would like to be mistaken, but most likely many decisions await us that will be absurd and unfair but inevitable because of this whole situation.

Until now the solution is still floating and it is very difficult to decide because this is actually when viewed from both sides it will have the same impact.
If the match continues to be forced then prevention will be very difficult and every club will certainly not play optimally because there are indeed several players who are affected by the epidemic.
on the other hand, when they delay it will automatically make the schedule change and the time delay is uncertain until when.
everything has a detrimental impact and now it's just a matter of waiting what steps will be taken now