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Of course, we mustn't forget that the Champions League is Real Madrid competition, and they've won the competition the most, so they're always a team to fear, but I think this year it will be difficult for them to reach the final.
I agree, Real Madrid is indeed a scary team in the Champions League with its achievements, with 3 wins in a row for me is one moment that cannot be forgotten. But in this season's Champions League, I think Bayern Munich seems to have a bigger chance than Real Madrid.
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January 05, 2022, 02:09:33 PM |
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Real Madrid are definitely one of the candidates to win the Champions League title. Because this is one of their best years in the recent times. And they want to be successful not only in the La Liga but also here. They are already in a great condition in the La Liga which helps them concentrate on the Champions League more. As long as they have things under control in the La Liga until their matchup here starts, I believe they can show their best performance against PSG.
I agree that they have all the conditions to defeat a PSG. But I think they will have a hard time finding a Man City or Bayern. They are two very strong teams and with a tactical level and players superior to Real Madrid. Of course, we mustn't forget that the Champions League is Real Madrid competition, and they've won the competition the most, so they're always a team to fear, but I think this year it will be difficult for them to reach the final. UCL deathmatches are somewhat of a luck game in some parts. Because if a team have a bad day for some reason, their whole season's hard work is just gone in 90 minutes. But we have seen over the years that RMA plays really well in do-or-die games. Just like Ferguson's UTD was really good at the ending parts of the game. But also Real's strength is somewhat blunt this season. So, Bayern and City will be able to give them a hard time. But only time will tell who comes out as the victors.
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January 05, 2022, 04:08:30 PM |
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Experience cannot be underestimated when it comes to a competition like this one in which each match is do or die, Real Madrid as one of the best soccer clubs around the world not only can afford to hire the best players available in the market almost for any price, they can also look for players with experience in international competitions that will not get nervous when the time comes and still preform at their best in the biggest stage. Yes, nothing can beat experience as it cannot be bought with money, but has to be achieved over the years. If you look at the RMA squad right now, you can hardly see any start attacking player upfront other than Benzema but if you see their performance this season, they have been constantly scoring and defending very well this season even without Ramos and Varane. It's all because of the team chemistry and the experience. So RMA is easily one of the contenders of the UCL this season.
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January 05, 2022, 04:11:20 PM |
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In Real Madrid, one old player is Modric. The rest are in their golden age or are young, and therefore I do not think that the age of the players will make any difference in this confrontation. I agree about Bayern and City, so it would be great if they could face each other in the next round ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) However, against City I will be rooting for almost any team, even for Bavaria, which every year claims to win the tournament. Experience from old players is certainly needed by a team in a match, I actually don't agree that the team will appear stronger just by relying on young players, besides Bayern Munich as one of the champion candidates, now PSG in my opinion is a more complex club than With Real Madrid being dominated by young players who have little experience in European competitions, mentality and experience are the most important things to win the Champions League not only energy. Balance matters. In my opinion, in Real Madrid now it is ideal or close to ideal. The management competently conducts the rotation and such a situation (which happened in the past) when several players belong to the same generation at once and they are in urgent need of replacement is not expected. If you look at the RMA squad right now, you can hardly see any start attacking player upfront other than Benzema but if you see their performance this season, they have been constantly scoring and defending very well this season even without Ramos and Varane. It's all because of the team chemistry and the experience. So RMA is easily one of the contenders of the UCL this season.
Isn't Vinicius that kind of player? He is progressing very quickly and will be on a par with Benzema very soon.
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January 05, 2022, 06:41:30 PM |
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In my opinion, City, Bayern, and Real Madrid are the contenders for the UCL title. Real seem like they have found back their rhythm after a shaky start to the season and City and Bayern play really good team-oriented attacking game which I love.
Real Madrid's midfield has aged quite a bit. All 3 of Modric, Kroos and Casemiro are above 30 but I dont think age will play a big role over here as Modrid, even at this age is still one of the best midfielders in the world.
Manchester City and Bayern are indeed the favorites of the Champions League, but Real Madrid are not even in the top five contenders in terms of bookmakers: Manchester City FC 3.80 Bayern Munich 4.65 Liverpool 6.05 Chelsea 7.60 Paris Saint-Germain 9.95 Ajax 15.00 Real Madrid 17.00 Surprisingly, even Ajax is rated higher than Real. I know Ajax is having a fantastic season, but I think it still has to prove that it can play well even against top clubs. Interestingly, Chelsea and Liverpool are close by, just like in the EPL.
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January 05, 2022, 06:49:54 PM |
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I would say that these 4 teams are the biggest candidates no matter how you rank them. Even though PSG and Madrid will play each other, because one of them will beat the other and then there will be 3 teams that are favorites, City has sporting which is nothing for them, Bayern has salzburg which once again is nothing for them, and that's why these four will definitely be going to quarter finals for sure, I mean 3 of them since PSG and Madrid situation.
Chelsea and Liverpool will be decent, they will not go down easy and they will play to win, but I still think that these four teams are better, if only we didn't had one of those "early finals" type of match ups with PSG and Madrid game, because they would definitely beat any other team for sure.
Chelsea and Liverpool are also very strong and these teams have won the Champions League in recent years, so I cannot say that they are weaker than the four you named. There are many worthy teams in this playoff that are worthy of winning, and when world-class giants compete with each other, it becomes very difficult to accurately determine the outcome, because it can be absolutely anything. Even in matches with Salzburg and Sporting, you need to be careful, because these clubs did not just make the playoffs. I say this to the fact that at this stage it is impossible to underestimate the opponents.
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January 05, 2022, 06:50:02 PM |
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Balance matters. In my opinion, in Real Madrid now it is ideal or close to ideal. The management competently conducts the rotation and such a situation (which happened in the past) when several players belong to the same generation at once and they are in urgent need of replacement is not expected.
I agree with what you said, Madrid at the moment the quality of the players and the balance is even and even now I feel they are a different team from the past that was synonymous with los galacticos. they currently prioritize their young players and this is quite good because rotation is the most important thing. how they are currently managing is pretty good. Modric and Kross are not young anymore but they are backed up with quite young players because there are some good players there. Besides that, at the back, Marcelo, who is no longer young, has started to rotate with Mendy there. Don't forget the front line, which now has Vinicius and Asensio.
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Ajax 15.00
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Surprisingly, even Ajax is rated higher than Real. I know Ajax is having a fantastic season, but I think it still has to prove that it can play well even against top clubs. Interestingly, Chelsea and Liverpool are close by, just like in the EPL.
I think Ajax position is due to the upcoming round. They will play against Benfica, a team that is currently going through a complicated period with the change of coach and far from their opponents in the domestic league. And Real Madrid will play against PSG, who have a greater chance of winning. All these factors help Ajax have a higher probability than Real Madrid.
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January 05, 2022, 07:17:52 PM |
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Manchester City and Bayern are indeed the favorites of the Champions League, but Real Madrid are not even in the top five contenders in terms of bookmakers:
Manchester City FC 3.80
Bayern Munich 4.65
Liverpool 6.05
Chelsea 7.60
Paris Saint-Germain 9.95
Ajax 15.00
Real Madrid 17.00
Surprisingly, even Ajax is rated higher than Real. I know Ajax is having a fantastic season, but I think it still has to prove that it can play well even against top clubs. Interestingly, Chelsea and Liverpool are close by, just like in the EPL.
It is very interesting honestly. Because Chelsea have a better odd than PSG just because they are the last champions in the CL. And Ajax are favoured by bookmakers even more than Real Madrid. I get that Ajax have been really awesome so far. Their performance in the group stage was just extraordinary surely. But this still doesn't mean that they are better than Real Madrid. If we somehow see a draw between them, I strongly believe that Real Madrid would eliminate them.
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I mostly agree with your choice of the main favorites to win the Champions League, but I don't understand why you didn't add Chelsea, the current European champions, to the list. Chelsea is very good in the English championship this year as well, they showed that they are a very high quality and experienced team, and I would not be surprised if they go to the final again, and in one game everything is always possible. By no means should they be underestimated. PSG and Manchester City are under a lot of pressure because a lot of money has been invested in their teams and there is no trophy yet. Therefore, I would give even a small advantage to Real because they know how to win trophies. Real Madrid is a team who knows very well how to win the do-or-die matches. Also, I would like to add Chelsea and they have a very well-rounded team this season and have very good squad depth. Man. City, PSG, and Bayern are very strong teams for the title. PSG have a deadly attack, Bayern have Lewa, and Man'City are playing a very well-rounded team-game. Hoping for a thrilling final third of CL. Real Madrid does not lose its level despite the things that have happened, however when it comes to finals they are used to having many and with great experience, if we take into account Bayern with Lewandowski and a well repowering Messi in a PSG With big stars and few injuries, I think it will be very interesting to see how it all will unfold, Man City is not far behind, we must wait how the balance can tip, maybe a good surprise will emerge.
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Balance matters. In my opinion, in Real Madrid now it is ideal or close to ideal. The management competently conducts the rotation and such a situation (which happened in the past) when several players belong to the same generation at once and they are in urgent need of replacement is not expected.
I agree with what you said, Madrid at the moment the quality of the players and the balance is even and even now I feel they are a different team from the past that was synonymous with los galacticos. they currently prioritize their young players and this is quite good because rotation is the most important thing. how they are currently managing is pretty good. Modric and Kross are not young anymore but they are backed up with quite young players because there are some good players there. Besides that, at the back, Marcelo, who is no longer young, has started to rotate with Mendy there. Don't forget the front line, which now has Vinicius and Asensio. Real Madrid's management has become much smarter since the era of the galacticos. Those were funny times and the "team of 7 captains" forever remained in history, but huge debts remained after it. Now Real is much smarter and the young stars have about a billion in compensation and the club is protected financially very well.
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Real Madrid's management has become much smarter since the era of the galacticos. Those were funny times and the "team of 7 captains" forever remained in history, but huge debts remained after it. Now Real is much smarter and the young stars have about a billion in compensation and the club is protected financially very well.
The Champions League is considered by many to be the proof of Real Madrid. They are the ones who won the test the most. That's why they usually give a lot of value to this competition, even if for that they have to do without the internal championship. Now, with a good advantage in the domestic competition, they have all the conditions to give everything in the Champions League.
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January 06, 2022, 07:12:41 PM |
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It is really good to see that Real Madrid are playing as a real team now. There is no player who is being selfish and playing according to it. Maybe Vinicius Junior is a little like that but the general situation is like I said. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Thanks to this integrity of the team, they are doing very good not only in the La Liga. They are doing awesome in the Champions League too. Maybe bookmakers don't see them as one of the biggest favourites but I do. And many people think the same too.
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January 06, 2022, 08:30:14 PM |
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Manchester City and Bayern are indeed the favorites of the Champions League, but Real Madrid are not even in the top five contenders in terms of bookmakers:
Manchester City FC 3.80
Bayern Munich 4.65
Liverpool 6.05
Chelsea 7.60
Paris Saint-Germain 9.95
Ajax 15.00
Real Madrid 17.00
Surprisingly, even Ajax is rated higher than Real. I know Ajax is having a fantastic season, but I think it still has to prove that it can play well even against top clubs. Interestingly, Chelsea and Liverpool are close by, just like in the EPL.
It is very interesting honestly. Because Chelsea have a better odd than PSG just because they are the last champions in the CL. And Ajax are favoured by bookmakers even more than Real Madrid. I get that Ajax have been really awesome so far. Their performance in the group stage was just extraordinary surely. But this still doesn't mean that they are better than Real Madrid. If we somehow see a draw between them, I strongly believe that Real Madrid would eliminate them. It's because we have some good hype around PSG and in reality Chelsea is much better than PSG on ground, and they can advance in better way for rest of competition here I am feeling Ajax is also having some good chance with some very good and quality players their next match is against Benfica which is having not good time. With Manchester City and Bayern are always bookies most favorite teams around Champions League but this time again most chances these both teams are not going to have better results in presence of Liverpool, Chelsea, Ajax and Real Madrid because most chances we will have winner from these four teams for next title as well.
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January 06, 2022, 08:54:52 PM |
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Real Madrid's management has become much smarter since the era of the galacticos. Those were funny times and the "team of 7 captains" forever remained in history, but huge debts remained after it. Now Real is much smarter and the young stars have about a billion in compensation and the club is protected financially very well.
The Champions League is considered by many to be the proof of Real Madrid. They are the ones who won the test the most. That's why they usually give a lot of value to this competition, even if for that they have to do without the internal championship. Now, with a good advantage in the domestic competition, they have all the conditions to give everything in the Champions League. The value of the Champions League is that regular successful performance in it gives a lot of money. Real Madrid are the first in the rankings and receive the largest share of the pool, which is distributed among the clubs depending on their regular performance in the league. Winning the Champions League this year will be incredibly difficult for Real Madrid, but I will certainly hope so. As for La Liga, in my opinion the competition is already over there.
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January 06, 2022, 11:25:36 PM |
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It is really good to see that Real Madrid are playing as a real team now. You mean they haven't been playing a Real team before? So what happens if they beat PSG. Does PSG suddenly turn “unreal”? Manchester City and Bayern are indeed the favorites of the Champions League, but Real Madrid are not even in the top five contenders in terms of bookmakers:
Manchester City FC 3.80
Bayern Munich 4.65
Liverpool 6.05
Chelsea 7.60
Paris Saint-Germain 9.95
Ajax 15.00
Real Madrid 17.00
Surprisingly, even Ajax is rated higher than Real. I know Ajax is having a fantastic season, but I think it still has to prove that it can play well even against top clubs. Interestingly, Chelsea and Liverpool are close by, just like in the EPL.
The odds are like that right now, probably because of the opponent they are playing. Trust me, if Real Madrid beat PSG and go to the next round, the odds will consequently change, so to me, they mean nothing.
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January 06, 2022, 11:42:09 PM Last edit: January 07, 2022, 12:12:18 AM by AndySt |
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The value of the Champions League is that regular successful performance in it gives a lot of money. Real Madrid are the first in the rankings and receive the largest share of the pool, which is distributed among the clubs depending on their regular performance in the league. Winning the Champions League this year will be incredibly difficult for Real Madrid, but I will certainly hope so. As for La Liga, in my opinion the competition is already over there.
I still think that the competition in La Liga is by no means over, despite the current advantage of Real Madrid in the standings over other rivals. As this advantage was formed following the results of the first round, when all the main competitors were in distress in terms of the game and, accordingly, in terms of results, so this advantage may dissolve by the end of the season. The example of Atletico Madrid last season will not let me lie ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Although, of course, if we compare the situation with the Champions League, then in La Liga Real Madrid has a much more undeniable advantage, but in the Champions League Real Madrid is definitely not the main favorite.
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January 07, 2022, 08:37:11 AM |
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In my opinion, City, Bayern, and Real Madrid are the contenders for the UCL title. Real seem like they have found back their rhythm after a shaky start to the season and City and Bayern play really good team-oriented attacking game which I love.
Real Madrid's midfield has aged quite a bit. All 3 of Modric, Kroos and Casemiro are above 30 but I dont think age will play a big role over here as Modrid, even at this age is still one of the best midfielders in the world.
I don't know how the Manchester City team play, but it doesn't seem that strong to me with PSG he took a goal at home with RB Leipzig he lost, and I don't think he is a super team I don't know, but I repeat I don't know him as a team
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January 07, 2022, 09:10:05 AM |
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Inter - Liverpool seems to be another interesting draw to me. Liverpool are a few steps ahead of Inter in terms of strength and performance now. Maybe Liverpool are not the leader in their league like Inter are but this doesn't show that Inter are better. I believe that the PL is a tougher league in the first place. And we all witnessed how each team played in the group stage here. Unless we see a surprise until then, Liverpool will stay as the favourite.
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January 07, 2022, 09:34:32 AM |
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~~ Paris Saint-Germain 9.95
Ajax 15.00
Real Madrid 17.00
Surprisingly, even Ajax is rated higher than Real. I know Ajax is having a fantastic season, but I think it still has to prove that it can play well even against top clubs. Interestingly, Chelsea and Liverpool are close by, just like in the EPL.
I think Ajax position is due to the upcoming round. They will play against Benfica, a team that is currently going through a complicated period with the change of coach and far from their opponents in the domestic league. And Real Madrid will play against PSG, who have a greater chance of winning. All these factors help Ajax have a higher probability than Real Madrid. Yes, maybe this is so, but Real has a chance to win (it seems to me) no less than PSG, while there is such a huge difference between them. Ajax does have an easier opponent and given how they made it through the group stage (6 wins out of 6 matches), the likelihood of Ajax winning is very high. I hope that they will go as far as possible - when the same pool of teams competes for the championship it is very boring.
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