⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[LUCKMCFLY]

Messi wasn't singlehandedly carrying but he had the most impact on the pitch for Barcelona. We also cannot deny the impact players like Xavi, Iniesta or Neymar had but Messi had the most impact. Before Neymar and Suarez joined, he had the duty of scoring goals and he did that very well. Even scoring 91 goals in a calendar year.
(I dunno how he did that) After Neymar and Suarez joined, he moved to the right flank and assisted them with tons of goals also while he scored lots by himself.

In my opinion, this is a biased statement - Xavi and Iniesta made the greatest contribution to the team. If you remember Xavi and Iniesta won the 2008 European Championship, then the 2010 World Championship and then again the 2012 European Championship - the greatest achievement. They did it without Messi, and without them, Messi himself failed at the 2010 World Cup and then at the 2011 America's Cup.

At everytime Barcelona always has great players.
Players like Eto, Ronaldinho, Ibrahimovic, Ture Yaya, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Neymar, Saurez etc.
These players have their best and played their quota in making the club great.
Yet, there impacts divers based on the time they arrived, their wings and loyalty.
Xavi and I Iniesta had great impact because they span to different generations and were doing it when it seems no one else could handle the midfield.
Messi having rose to arguably the best player in the world, still remained with Barcelona in what seems like a life contract.
So, their levels of loyalty differed according to their roles and how the club made them. I think Messi was Barca made and he gave back to Barca.

On one occasion, Iniesta did say that CR7 was a very good player, even for him he is the best in the world, because everyone talks about Messi, and they have never drawn the conclusions that Messi only pushed the ball into the opponent's net and yes, that's it what it is about, but the work of Xavi and him was never valued, they only saw Messi, on the contrary if instead of Messi there would have been CR7, Barcelona would have had many more trophies, because CR7 on the pitch playing like in life really is a great person.

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[bestcoins1]

Not calling into question the quality of the PSG squad, but I honestly think that this year's Champions League final will be between Man City and Bayern Munich. I think these two teams are very strong, and if they don't meet before the final, I think they will be the main candidates to reach the final.

Everything is still very open to happen in every game for this season so that anyone can make predictions as each individual already knows, but for me personally PSG should not be underestimated for this season even though Man City and Bayern Munich are also not bad club to be in the UCL final

[hahay]

Not calling into question the quality of the PSG squad, but I honestly think that this year's Champions League final will be between Man City and Bayern Munich. I think these two teams are very strong, and if they don't meet before the final, I think they will be the main candidates to reach the final.

Everything is still very open to happen in every game for this season so that anyone can make predictions as each individual already knows, but for me personally PSG should not be underestimated for this season even though Man City and Bayern Munich are also not bad club to be in the UCL final

But at least in terms of teams that can appear more consistent in their respective leagues, it looks like a possible result for them to advance to the final match or maybe get the UCL title this season. Therefore, if we associate the teams that are at least more consistent in their respective leagues so far, then we will get a team with big names. But tougher competition is of course the main thing and it is Manchester City who can beat Chelsea and Liverpool who are both in their best form, in contrast to the competition in other teams and leagues such as Bayern Munich, PSG and Real Madrid. Their rival teams are not strong enough there but indeed, it does not promise a definite victory but at least, their morale has been formed from the intense competition from their respective leagues.

[Jackl87]

Not calling into question the quality of the PSG squad, but I honestly think that this year's Champions League final will be between Man City and Bayern Munich. I think these two teams are very strong, and if they don't meet before the final, I think they will be the main candidates to reach the final.

Everything is still very open to happen in every game for this season so that anyone can make predictions as each individual already knows, but for me personally PSG should not be underestimated for this season even though Man City and Bayern Munich are also not bad club to be in the UCL final

Manchester City and Bayern Munich are also very high on my list of favorites for the Champions League title this year, but betting on that is still very risky in my opinion, as it always is if you bet on the winner of a Championship that is decided in playoff matches. There are so many factors that need to be on your side in order to win the title. You need to have your best squad available, so not to much injured players or players in quarantine because of covid when a important game is happening and you also need to have a little bit of luck. You can be the best team over the whole season but if you are having a bad day in a play off game you are still out of the tournament.

[joker_josue]

But at least in terms of teams that can appear more consistent in their respective leagues, it looks like a possible result for them to advance to the final match or maybe get the UCL title this season. Therefore, if we associate the teams that are at least more consistent in their respective leagues so far, then we will get a team with big names. But tougher competition is of course the main thing and it is Manchester City who can beat Chelsea and Liverpool who are both in their best form, in contrast to the competition in other teams and leagues such as Bayern Munich, PSG and Real Madrid. Their rival teams are not strong enough there but indeed, it does not promise a definite victory but at least, their morale has been formed from the intense competition from their respective leagues.

This is the point. At the moment the most balanced championship is the Premier League. Where there are several candidates for first place. Despite this, Man City are comfortably in first.

In the other championships - French, German and Spanish, there is not so much balance. And so the advantages of these teams are not surprising. Strange would be Real, Bayern or PSG not to be first. If Man City weren't in first, I wouldn't be surprised.

[bestcoins1]

Manchester City and Bayern Munich are also very high on my list of favorites for the Champions League title this year, but betting on that is still very risky in my opinion, as it always is if you bet on the winner of a Championship that is decided in playoff matches. There are so many factors that need to be on your side in order to win the title. You need to have your best squad available, so not to much injured players or players in quarantine because of covid when a important game is happening and you also need to have a little bit of luck. You can be the best team over the whole season but if you are having a bad day in a play off game you are still out of the tournament.

Very true, and from what you said I began to remember the past when Manchester City against Chelsea in the Champions League final where almost everyone at that time was expecting Manchester City to win the Champions League, but luck was with the Chelsea club. at that time.
Likewise with the comparison between two great clubs like Manchester City and Bayern Munich who both have to play well and hope that luck will side with one of them.

[TopT3ns]

Not calling into question the quality of the PSG squad, but I honestly think that this year's Champions League final will be between Man City and Bayern Munich. I think these two teams are very strong, and if they don't meet before the final, I think they will be the main candidates to reach the final.

Everything is still very open to happen in every game for this season so that anyone can make predictions as each individual already knows, but for me personally PSG should not be underestimated for this season even though Man City and Bayern Munich are also not bad club to be in the UCL final

Manchester City and Bayern Munich are also very high on my list of favorites for the Champions League title this year, but betting on that is still very risky in my opinion, as it always is if you bet on the winner of a Championship that is decided in playoff matches. There are so many factors that need to be on your side in order to win the title. You need to have your best squad available, so not to much injured players or players in quarantine because of covid when a important game is happening and you also need to have a little bit of luck. You can be the best team over the whole season but if you are having a bad day in a play off game you are still out of the tournament.

I know both team not faced difficulty on 16 phase round because Bayern Munich looks easy how to defeat FC Red Bull Salzburg as Austrian team and become easy to win for first and second leg. For Manchester City I think the same chance to pass on quarter final because his against on 16 round only Sporting Lisbon. Easy for Manchester City defeat Sporting and not really worry to predict Bayern and Manchester City lead to quarter final of champion league in this season.

[SatoPrincess]

Manchester City and Bayern Munich are also very high on my list of favorites for the Champions League title this year, but betting on that is still very risky in my opinion, as it always is if you bet on the winner of a Championship that is decided in playoff matches. There are so many factors that need to be on your side in order to win the title. You need to have your best squad available, so not to much injured players or players in quarantine because of covid when a important game is happening and you also need to have a little bit of luck. You can be the best team over the whole season but if you are having a bad day in a play off game you are still out of the tournament.

Over the years, picking the  champions league winner hasn’t been too difficult because it has been based on the best domestic team from European leagues and with good and enough available players to rotate the team during other domestic league or league cup games. And for now I think the favorite team to win the champions league should be Real Madrid, Manchester City or Bayern muchen because domestically they have been good and they are in a great form right now as well, they have great players and with great managers as well and if they carry on like this, either of those teams should be European champions.

[hahay]

But at least in terms of teams that can appear more consistent in their respective leagues, it looks like a possible result for them to advance to the final match or maybe get the UCL title this season. Therefore, if we associate the teams that are at least more consistent in their respective leagues so far, then we will get a team with big names. But tougher competition is of course the main thing and it is Manchester City who can beat Chelsea and Liverpool who are both in their best form, in contrast to the competition in other teams and leagues such as Bayern Munich, PSG and Real Madrid. Their rival teams are not strong enough there but indeed, it does not promise a definite victory but at least, their morale has been formed from the intense competition from their respective leagues.

This is the point. At the moment the most balanced championship is the Premier League. Where there are several candidates for first place. Despite this, Man City are comfortably in first.

In the other championships - French, German and Spanish, there is not so much balance. And so the advantages of these teams are not surprising. Strange would be Real, Bayern or PSG not to be first. If Man City weren't in first, I wouldn't be surprised.

Manchester City which really has a better performance in the EPL with more intense competition there, of course Manchester City will be better prepared to play further in this UCL. Because they are used to doing rotations and the opponents they face are also difficult in the EPL as we know. Therefore, I personally believe Manchester City will continue their trend of getting to the final like the previous season, but to become the holder of the UCL title this season I think it will still be open to the big teams who are in this phase.

[SatoPrincess]

 I would have added PSG but to me PSG aren’t really a team that can compete with Bayern Munich even with all those great players in the team especially the attack, the chemistry isn’t really there when they play and that is why they are having a hard time scoring goals. Domestically PSG have lost just one match with 5 draws and winning 15 games, but we know they are not really in a competitive league. And I don’t think the manager have enough champions league experience to know the right thing to do when the going gets tough. Champions league is very competitive and considered the highest league trophy in football.

[KTChampions]

If you are so sure of this, then you should bet on this event - you can easily increase your money by 9 times. Paris Saint-Germain 9.95 - such odds are offered by bookmakers now. Just note that at the moment PSG is not a favorite according to the bookmakers - there are already 4 clubs ahead, so such a bet will be very risky.

Four clubs ahead of PSG as the favorites to win the Champions League?
That means he's fifth.

Who are the other clubs?
I would say Man City, Bayern, Liverpool, who was the other?
Juventus? I don't think so.

You will be surprised, but this is Chelsea:

Manchester City FC 3.80
Bayern Munich 4.65
Liverpool 6.05
Chelsea 7.60
Paris Saint Germain 9.95

Chelsea's recent games put the relevance of these quotes into question, but on the other hand, such a coefficient means that their chances are about 12%, which seems quite adequate knowing the history of Chelsea. Chelsea are experienced cup fighters and can beat any team in a head-to-head match.

[fullhdpixel]

Four clubs ahead of PSG as the favorites to win the Champions League?
That means he's fifth.

Who are the other clubs?
I would say Man City, Bayern, Liverpool, who was the other?
Juventus? I don't think so.

You will be surprised, but this is Chelsea:

Manchester City FC 3.80
Bayern Munich 4.65
Liverpool 6.05
Chelsea 7.60
Paris Saint Germain 9.95

Chelsea's recent games put the relevance of these quotes into question, but on the other hand, such a coefficient means that their chances are about 12%, which seems quite adequate knowing the history of Chelsea. Chelsea are experienced cup fighters and can beat any team in a head-to-head match.

Every year we have some hard talks about this but sadly most of the time no can give correct predictions about this all because it's not easy for anyone on his day any team can perform good and able to lift trophy right now we have three hot favorites, but I have my own view about this all because so now I am feeling about this season we have Real Madrid, Liverpool, Juventus and Bayern Munich to win title but still it's my own predictions without any strong logic.

Many believed that PSG and Manchester City both having good chance to win this year's title, but I have no interest because I am feeling you can create great team with money but can't win against talented teams on this level.

[bestcoins1]

I know both team not faced difficulty on 16 phase round because Bayern Munich looks easy how to defeat FC Red Bull Salzburg as Austrian team and become easy to win for first and second leg. For Manchester City I think the same chance to pass on quarter final because his against on 16 round only Sporting Lisbon. Easy for Manchester City defeat Sporting and not really worry to predict Bayern and Manchester City lead to quarter final of champion league in this season.

It will also be very interesting if Bayern Munich and Manchester City can compete in the quarter-finals of the champions league this season.
But if you look at several other clubs who will also enliven great matches this season, I also believe in PSG and Real Madrid to be in the quarter-finals although a little less sure of getting into the champions league final this season.

[TopT3ns]

But at least in terms of teams that can appear more consistent in their respective leagues, it looks like a possible result for them to advance to the final match or maybe get the UCL title this season. Therefore, if we associate the teams that are at least more consistent in their respective leagues so far, then we will get a team with big names. But tougher competition is of course the main thing and it is Manchester City who can beat Chelsea and Liverpool who are both in their best form, in contrast to the competition in other teams and leagues such as Bayern Munich, PSG and Real Madrid. Their rival teams are not strong enough there but indeed, it does not promise a definite victory but at least, their morale has been formed from the intense competition from their respective leagues.

This is the point. At the moment the most balanced championship is the Premier League. Where there are several candidates for first place. Despite this, Man City are comfortably in first.

In the other championships - French, German and Spanish, there is not so much balance. And so the advantages of these teams are not surprising. Strange would be Real, Bayern or PSG not to be first. If Man City weren't in first, I wouldn't be surprised.

Manchester City which really has a better performance in the EPL with more intense competition there, of course Manchester City will be better prepared to play further in this UCL. Because they are used to doing rotations and the opponents they face are also difficult in the EPL as we know. Therefore, I personally believe Manchester City will continue their trend of getting to the final like the previous season, but to become the holder of the UCL title this season I think it will still be open to the big teams who are in this phase.

Keep consistent on EPL and gap ten points above from Liverpool and Chelsea not really big problem for Manchester City with champion league and they can use second composition player trough match EPP when closing with champion league 16 round match. But sporting Lisbon should easy for Manchester City and waiting for which one team as against on quarter final. If Manchester City keep consistent on EPP before champion league 16 round begin they will easy how to get composition player because not really worry with EPL and gap many points from second and third position team.

[dataispower]

I know both team not faced difficulty on 16 phase round because Bayern Munich looks easy how to defeat FC Red Bull Salzburg as Austrian team and become easy to win for first and second leg. For Manchester City I think the same chance to pass on quarter final because his against on 16 round only Sporting Lisbon. Easy for Manchester City defeat Sporting and not really worry to predict Bayern and Manchester City lead to quarter final of champion league in this season.

It will also be very interesting if Bayern Munich and Manchester City can compete in the quarter-finals of the champions league this season.
But if you look at several other clubs who will also enliven great matches this season, I also believe in PSG and Real Madrid to be in the quarter-finals although a little less sure of getting into the champions league final this season.

It your opinion, i know another person will also drop his own analysis of  the league, it is not club, what is really interesting is players because i can see that some of the club that does not have good player, Chelsea players can not be use to compare to bayern players, from the rate of players, but from the analysis Manchester city  players is some thing we can compare their players, but i believe that bayern will stand to win from this two teams

[joker_josue]

You will be surprised, but this is Chelsea:

Manchester City FC 3.80
Bayern Munich 4.65
Liverpool 6.05
Chelsea 7.60
Paris Saint Germain 9.95

I see.
But Chelsea earned that position in the Champions League win favorites because they won the competition last year. And they were expected to perform better this time. Honestly, just like last year I had some doubts about Chelsea's victory, this year I have the same ones.

Last year was wrong, this year could be the same. But looking at Chelsea's recent performances, I have some doubts that things will go as well as last year.

[LittleBitFunny]

But at least in terms of teams that can appear more consistent in their respective leagues, it looks like a possible result for them to advance to the final match or maybe get the UCL title this season. Therefore, if we associate the teams that are at least more consistent in their respective leagues so far, then we will get a team with big names. But tougher competition is of course the main thing and it is Manchester City who can beat Chelsea and Liverpool who are both in their best form, in contrast to the competition in other teams and leagues such as Bayern Munich, PSG and Real Madrid. Their rival teams are not strong enough there but indeed, it does not promise a definite victory but at least, their morale has been formed from the intense competition from their respective leagues.

This is the point. At the moment the most balanced championship is the Premier League. Where there are several candidates for first place. Despite this, Man City are comfortably in first.
In the other championships - French, German and Spanish, there is not so much balance. And so the advantages of these teams are not surprising. Strange would be Real, Bayern or PSG not to be first. If Man City weren't in first, I wouldn't be surprised.

Manchester City which really has a better performance in the EPL with more intense competition there, of course Manchester City will be better prepared to play further in this UCL. Because they are used to doing rotations and the opponents they face are also difficult in the EPL as we know. Therefore, I personally believe Manchester City will continue their trend of getting to the final like the previous season, but to become the holder of the UCL title this season I think it will still be open to the big teams who are in this phase.

Keep consistent on EPL and gap ten points above from Liverpool and Chelsea not really big problem for Manchester City with champion league and they can use second composition player trough match EPP when closing with champion league 16 round match. But sporting Lisbon should easy for Manchester City and waiting for which one team as against on quarter final. If Manchester City keep consistent on EPP before champion league 16 round begin they will easy how to get composition player because not really worry with EPL and gap many points from second and third position team.

Man City is 11 points clear of Liverpool which is in second place so Man City shouldn't really worry about the English Premier League right now.

And they are also in the top position in UEFA Champions League in their group. But they are only one point clear of PSG. So I don't think that this should be any problem for them too.

As @hahay previously mentioned they are used to rotations, these matches should not be a problem for Manchester City to win.

Anyway, Manchester City has a match against Southampton tonight which I think ok Manchester city is going to win easily unless something miracles happen.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I would have added PSG but to me PSG aren’t really a team that can compete with Bayern Munich even with all those great players in the team especially the attack, the chemistry isn’t really there when they play and that is why they are having a hard time scoring goals. Domestically PSG have lost just one match with 5 draws and winning 15 games, but we know they are not really in a competitive league. And I don’t think the manager have enough champions league experience to know the right thing to do when the going gets tough. Champions league is very competitive and considered the highest league trophy in football.

PSG is a great team if you look at them on paper but considering the fact that they don't have much competition in their League, and Neymar currently seems to be more concerned about fragging out in counter strike global offensive than to scoring goals,

I don't think PSG is in any situation to beat Bayern Munich in the Champions League.

And I think we can all agree that we have never seen that type of chemistry which we expected from the star players in the team. And I also agree about the manager not being very experienced in the Champions League. So I honestly do not give PSG much of a chance to beat Bayern Munich in the Champions League.

[Daniel91]

You will be surprised, but this is Chelsea:

Manchester City FC 3.80
Bayern Munich 4.65
Liverpool 6.05
Chelsea 7.60
Paris Saint Germain 9.95

I see.
But Chelsea earned that position in the Champions League win favorites because they won the competition last year. And they were expected to perform better this time. Honestly, just like last year I had some doubts about Chelsea's victory, this year I have the same ones.

Last year was wrong, this year could be the same. But looking at Chelsea's recent performances, I have some doubts that things will go as well as last year.

Chelsea was a big surprise last season but this season there have obviously been big problems for the team.
It started with Lukaku and his unfortunate interview and now there are obviously serious problems in the relationship of other players with the coach.
Chelsea were not the best team in the Champions League last year, but in key matches they were compact, a real team with team spirit and managed to win the Champions League.
This year they are not at that level and it is not realistic to expect them to repeat the success from last year.
The obvious favorites are Manchester City, Bayern, PSG and Real.

[laurenB7742]

I know both team not faced difficulty on 16 phase round because Bayern Munich looks easy how to defeat FC Red Bull Salzburg as Austrian team and become easy to win for first and second leg. For Manchester City I think the same chance to pass on quarter final because his against on 16 round only Sporting Lisbon. Easy for Manchester City defeat Sporting and not really worry to predict Bayern and Manchester City lead to quarter final of champion league in this season.

It will also be very interesting if Bayern Munich and Manchester City can compete in the quarter-finals of the champions league this season.
But if you look at several other clubs who will also enliven great matches this season, I also believe in PSG and Real Madrid to be in the quarter-finals although a little less sure of getting into the champions league final this season.

It your opinion, i know another person will also drop his own analysis of  the league, it is not club, what is really interesting is players because i can see that some of the club that does not have good player, Chelsea players can not be use to compare to bayern players, from the rate of players, but from the analysis Manchester city  players is some thing we can compare their players, but i believe that bayern will stand to win from this two teams

This is the Champions League so if a team wants to win here everything has to come and work together for that win. The players the coaches everyone should do their job correctly to lead their team to victory. And players' form is of real importance here. I also believe that Bayern Munich and Manchester City should face off in the quarter-finals. And also on the other hand PSG vs Real Madrid.
About the championship winners, I think Bayern Munich has a real good chance of winning this if they don't choke under pressure.
And if we do get to see a PSG vs Real Madrid match it will be really interesting from a viewer's point of view.