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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129356 times)
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January 29, 2022, 07:07:34 PM
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Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.
C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.
Real Madrid is currently the Leader of La Liga. Don't be surprise if Madrid eventually win against PSG, because they have a strong squad which is capable of beating PSG. Madrid shouldn't be underestimated. Although, we all understand that PSG have top talented players in their squad, but that doesn't guarantee that Madrid can't basically penetrate them. Anyway, let wait patiently for the Matchday, and sees who gets qualified to the next round.



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January 29, 2022, 07:44:05 PM
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Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.
C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.
Real Madrid is currently the Leader of La Liga. Don't be surprise if Madrid eventually win against PSG, because they have a strong squad which is capable of beating PSG. Madrid shouldn't be underestimated. Although, we all understand that PSG have top talented players in their squad, but that doesn't guarantee that Madrid can't basically penetrate them. Anyway, let wait patiently for the Matchday, and sees who gets qualified to the next round.

Compared to PSG, Real Madrid has really performed well seeing the history in the table. Real Madrid has own 5 out 6 matches but where as PSG  Real Madrid own just 3 out of 6 matches as per UEFA Champions league table. I understand that PSG has few best players but yes on 16th Feb, its not going to much tougher for PSG but will see it on 16TH for Real Madrid

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January 29, 2022, 07:51:23 PM
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I see many people on the internet who underestimate Real Madrid a lot against PSG in this round. But they are wrong about thinking like that I believe. Because Real Madrid is not an easy-peasy target for them. On the contrary, I expect Real Madrid to even surprise PSG by showing an amazing performance in both games of the matchup. PSG can have big difficulties against them and it might not be easy for them even if they move Real Madrid out of this tournament. Benzema is having a great season and I expect him to be a dangerous threat to PSG.

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January 29, 2022, 07:52:13 PM
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Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.
C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.
Real Madrid is currently the Leader of La Liga. Don't be surprise if Madrid eventually win against PSG, because they have a strong squad which is capable of beating PSG. Madrid shouldn't be underestimated. Although, we all understand that PSG have top talented players in their squad, but that doesn't guarantee that Madrid can't basically penetrate them. Anyway, let wait patiently for the Matchday, and sees who gets qualified to the next round.

Compared to PSG, Real Madrid has really performed well seeing the history in the table. Real Madrid has own 5 out 6 matches but where as PSG  Real Madrid own just 3 out of 6 matches as per UEFA Champions league table. I understand that PSG has few best players but yes on 16th Feb, its not going to much tougher for PSG but will see it on 16TH for Real Madrid

Well, PSG is investing a lot of money in their players in the past years... but still they can't win the Champions League! No doubt, there are strong names in the PSG team, and they are winning the games, but their defense is not on top! So against top teams like Real is they will have troubles, big ones...
I think that PSG can take the win here, I mean the first game at home so they have a little advantage, they will have to take it if they wish to have some chances in the next game in Madrid!

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January 29, 2022, 08:04:54 PM
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I think it will be difficult for Real Madrid to qualify for the next round of the Champions League. Despite their vast experience in the Champions League, Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play. Psg are more motivated to win, and they have a stronger squad than Madrid.They may be able to win the home game, but in the end, PSG will go to the next round.

If you are so sure about this prediction then you can bet on PSG - the odds are very attractive. But in fact I would advise you to look deeper into the situation in both clubs, because although on paper PSG are stronger, they have big problems in order to collect all these "big" names in a single team (some are injured, some are not at their best form, etc.). Real Madrid are doing just fine in this regard.

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January 29, 2022, 08:16:31 PM
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I see many people on the internet who underestimate Real Madrid a lot against PSG in this round. But they are wrong about thinking like that I believe. Because Real Madrid is not an easy-peasy target for them. On the contrary, I expect Real Madrid to even surprise PSG by showing an amazing performance in both games of the matchup. PSG can have big difficulties against them and it might not be easy for them even if they move Real Madrid out of this tournament. Benzema is having a great season and I expect him to be a dangerous threat to PSG.
it's very reasonable because at this time if we look at the statistics and betting estimates, of course PSG is superior, especially for the first leg later.
I feel that it was the effect of playing at home and the star players who were there that made this happen.
but on the other hand as you said, Real madrid is a strong team and indeed don't forget that real madrid is still the holder of the most trophies here.
even though a lot of people support PSG but I feel that being on the side of Real madrid of course it will be better

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January 29, 2022, 08:30:41 PM
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It will be a very difficult match. The offensive line of both teams is very good. I think we will watch two games with lots of goals. Now, whichever team scores more goals will be the side that passes the round. Real or Paris SG, it doesn't matter. A team will show their strength and the team that passes this elimination continues until the final. This is a match that can be played in the final. I am sure that all eyes will be on this match while the champions league qualifiers are played in the world.
That's right, I'm also looking forward to the round of 16 match for the Champions League this time because the two best teams will play really well in that round too and hopefully one of them can win even though personally I prefer the Real Madrid team to win that match in the 16th round of the Champions League later.
Honestly there is only like 2 weeks left and I can't wait. The games are all looking awesome. Yes Bayern vs Salzburg could be a boring game, but the other games are looking either close or at least close enough. United vs ATM? That's great, sure you can think one is better than the other if you want but it is "close enough" game, Ajax vs Benfica, close enough, Juventus vs Villareal, close enough, Chelsea vs Lille could be a big difference, Lille got the league last year but this year they suck so that could be boring, Liverpool is better than Inter but that is still close enough if you ask me, City is definitely much better than Lisbon, and the most famous PSG vs Madrid, that's amazing.

So, I would say only 3 matchups are not close enough, all the others are up for grabs and it will be amazing to watch them all unravel.
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January 29, 2022, 08:55:06 PM
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Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play. Psg are more motivated to win, and they have a stronger squad than Madrid.They may be able to win the home game, but in the end, PSG will go to the next round.
Why do you think PSG has more motivation to win? Don't tell me it is because they have Messi? Although PSG has Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe in their attacking line, doesn't mean they will automatically win against Real Madrid. To win the match needs solid playing, all lines will have a contribution to lead the team winning or losing in the match. Even, in my opinion, the midfield line to have a more crucial role in this match. Which team thas has a better midfield and is more solid in playing? The answer is Real Madrid. So, don't judge PSG is stronger because they have more superstars, in reality they are difficult to play a solid team. For me, considering their current performance, Real Madrid is better than PSG. All the lines in Real Madrid performed quite well lately, they played as a team. While PSG, although they have many superstars, each superstar plays too individually and focuses on showing their own performance. So, I am sure Real Madrid beats PSG and qualified for the next round. 

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January 29, 2022, 09:06:07 PM
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Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play.
C'mon, Madrid has more than enough good team to qualify against PSG. I have to agree that PSG is quite good team; they are now a balanced one and determined to win the UCL but that doesn’t mean Real Madrid have no chance. Real Madrid deserves to win as well and I believe they will qualify.

It's very controversial, you see, this year both Real and PSG are very strong teams, one has strong new players, the other has a solid team that is winning and looking confident right now. I'm more interested to see how the former team captain Ramos will play, his transition surprised me back then. Both teams are equal and contenders to win, but who will win I can't even guess, tough choice

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January 29, 2022, 09:47:20 PM
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But on the other hand, their current strength is balanced, I think. Their goal ratio is quite balanced in their respective leagues and it shows their strength and productivity is unquestionable.
On the other hand, we also see now the strength of the Madrid Trio, namely Benzema, Vinicius and Asensio, who are indeed quite good. On the other hand, it doesn't mean PSG's strikers are bad but if we look at the current problem, they are still struggling in cohesiveness and some of them are still concerned with their own ego.
When you talk about trio, we have neymar-mbappe-messi trio at PSG. Obviously they didn't play too many minutes together with that three on the pitch, that is the main problem. However, when they did, they were just too good, and that is something important to consider. Yes, they do not have that many minutes together and failed to build a chemistry so far but when they are that talented, you put them against anyone and they are great.

Like that Messi goal against City for example, Mbappe knew how to pass exactly to where because he knows how Messi likes it, and we will see a lot of that if all three will be healthy and ready to play against Real Madrid when the time comes.
I never doubted these three players who were already unquestionable in their individual skills. but indeed the problem of ego and play which tends to prioritize their individualistic skills is still evident in some PSG matches and this could be a boomerang for them.
maybe there are some weaknesses in real madrid especially when they attack which often forgets their defense area but in terms of cohesiveness I still believe in the midfield and front line of Real madrid

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January 30, 2022, 03:52:44 AM
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Madrid do not have a very strong squad for this level of play. Psg are more motivated to win, and they have a stronger squad than Madrid.They may be able to win the home game, but in the end, PSG will go to the next round.
Why do you think PSG has more motivation to win? Don't tell me it is because they have Messi? Although PSG has Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe in their attacking line, doesn't mean they will automatically win against Real Madrid. To win the match needs solid playing, all lines will have a contribution to lead the team winning or losing in the match. Even, in my opinion, the midfield line to have a more crucial role in this match. Which team thas has a better midfield and is more solid in playing? The answer is Real Madrid. So, don't judge PSG is stronger because they have more superstars, in reality they are difficult to play a solid team. For me, considering their current performance, Real Madrid is better than PSG. All the lines in Real Madrid performed quite well lately, they played as a team. While PSG, although they have many superstars, each superstar plays too individually and focuses on showing their own performance. So, I am sure Real Madrid beats PSG and qualified for the next round. 

You are still talking about the same Real Madrid who lost against Elche CF and Getafe CF in recent times, right? And I am not even talking about the number of red cards they have got in recent matches.  Cheesy

Meanwhile, I actually can't remember when the last time PSG lost a match, to be honest.  Cool

And here you are saying that Real Madrid is performing quite well recently and better than PSG. It's true that PSG is not performing at their peak but they are certainly performing better than Real Madrid right now.

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January 30, 2022, 03:57:19 AM
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It will be a very difficult match. The offensive line of both teams is very good. I think we will watch two games with lots of goals. Now, whichever team scores more goals will be the side that passes the round. Real or Paris SG, it doesn't matter. A team will show their strength and the team that passes this elimination continues until the final. This is a match that can be played in the final. I am sure that all eyes will be on this match while the champions league qualifiers are played in the world.
That's right, I'm also looking forward to the round of 16 match for the Champions League this time because the two best teams will play really well in that round too and hopefully one of them can win even though personally I prefer the Real Madrid team to win that match in the 16th round of the Champions League later.
Honestly there is only like 2 weeks left and I can't wait. The games are all looking awesome. Yes Bayern vs Salzburg could be a boring game, but the other games are looking either close or at least close enough. United vs ATM? That's great, sure you can think one is better than the other if you want but it is "close enough" game, Ajax vs Benfica, close enough, Juventus vs Villareal, close enough, Chelsea vs Lille could be a big difference, Lille got the league last year but this year they suck so that could be boring, Liverpool is better than Inter but that is still close enough if you ask me, City is definitely much better than Lisbon, and the most famous PSG vs Madrid, that's amazing.

So, I would say only 3 matchups are not close enough, all the others are up for grabs and it will be amazing to watch them all unravel.

^ Actually, instead of some obviously boring ones, almost all the other matches are going to be really interesting.  Smiley

Yes, maybe it is a little easy to predict but still in my opinion the matches are going to be close. But almost all the other matches are a little easy to predict except for Real Madrid vs PSG because I have to say this match is an even match.

Even though PSG has been performing really well recently I still think that PSG is not performing at their peak and Real Madrid still has a very good chance of winning even though they don't have the mighty strong squad like PSG.

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I never doubted these three players who were already unquestionable in their individual skills. but indeed the problem of ego and play which tends to prioritize their individualistic skills is still evident in some PSG matches and this could be a boomerang for them.
maybe there are some weaknesses in real madrid especially when they attack which often forgets their defense area but in terms of cohesiveness I still believe in the midfield and front line of Real madrid
Because they want to appear or be in the spotlight, this is for the future. we all know Mbappe is Real Madrid's target, they won't be interested anymore when he playing badly and not consistent. Pochetino must look at situations, that are possible on forwarding in centerfield. if they want to win, the ball supply must be on Messi or Neymar and forwarding into Mbappe. I don't find the Madrid problem, maybe a defensive midfielder has to be active for this time.

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I never doubted these three players who were already unquestionable in their individual skills. but indeed the problem of ego and play which tends to prioritize their individualistic skills is still evident in some PSG matches and this could be a boomerang for them.
maybe there are some weaknesses in real madrid especially when they attack which often forgets their defense area but in terms of cohesiveness I still believe in the midfield and front line of Real madrid
Because they want to appear or be in the spotlight, this is for the future. we all know Mbappe is Real Madrid's target, they won't be interested anymore when he playing badly and not consistent. Pochetino must look at situations, that are possible on forwarding in centerfield. if they want to win, the ball supply must be on Messi or Neymar and forwarding into Mbappe. I don't find the Madrid problem, maybe a defensive midfielder has to be active for this time.

Psg still complaining? When the have a 7 times balon d'or award winner among them? Leonel Messi has what it takes to make yet another history in that club and can move then into winning the French leauge as many time as possible, it all depends on how and which player is paired with Leo Messi in his wing ; if the ball is in circulation, Messi would have a lot of privileges and as we all know, if he has three opportunities for a goal, he atleast scores one .
Neymar on the other side is very good and only needs those  passes in circulation with which he can make goals outta them too....Mbbape is leaving the team soon and for now as you said, Madrid is targeting him

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I never doubted these three players who were already unquestionable in their individual skills. but indeed the problem of ego and play which tends to prioritize their individualistic skills is still evident in some PSG matches and this could be a boomerang for them.
maybe there are some weaknesses in real madrid especially when they attack which often forgets their defense area but in terms of cohesiveness I still believe in the midfield and front line of Real madrid
Because they want to appear or be in the spotlight, this is for the future. we all know Mbappe is Real Madrid's target, they won't be interested anymore when he playing badly and not consistent. Pochetino must look at situations, that are possible on forwarding in centerfield. if they want to win, the ball supply must be on Messi or Neymar and forwarding into Mbappe. I don't find the Madrid problem, maybe a defensive midfielder has to be active for this time.


what you say is true, and also very strategically correct
your technical contribution and your analysis are very intelligent
however what is missing in this trio is a strong synergy, individually they are very strong but together?
Not always great champions manage to do well together, if they succeed they become unstoppable

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From their 6 meetings, Real Madrid have an advantage over Paris Saint-Germain, but this is a different situation. In the Champions League, I see Real Madrid is not an easy team to beat. They can always come back with a win.
They have a very good attack creator, moreover their counter attack is unquestionable. Although it won't be easy, I predict Real Madrid will come out victorious.
Hopefully you are right and Real Madrid can come out victorious at the end of this season in the Champions League, although other teams also always play very well in every game in the Champions League because this is the highest caste in all other Leagues, so each team needs to improve their way of playing here during the round of 16.

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I never doubted these three players who were already unquestionable in their individual skills. but indeed the problem of ego and play which tends to prioritize their individualistic skills is still evident in some PSG matches and this could be a boomerang for them.
maybe there are some weaknesses in real madrid especially when they attack which often forgets their defense area but in terms of cohesiveness I still believe in the midfield and front line of Real madrid
Because they want to appear or be in the spotlight, this is for the future. we all know Mbappe is Real Madrid's target, they won't be interested anymore when he playing badly and not consistent. Pochetino must look at situations, that are possible on forwarding in centerfield. if they want to win, the ball supply must be on Messi or Neymar and forwarding into Mbappe. I don't find the Madrid problem, maybe a defensive midfielder has to be active for this time.

it's like that because sometimes showing yourself is good enough, but sometimes there's something bad about the results you get.
I think indeed when they put their egos aside I feel they will be good enough but for now I am still on the real madrid side for the league now.
on the other hand i also see this poche in formulating strategy at PSG sometimes it's too monotonous and the formation is just like that so I feel they should be able to make at least a good surprise to make a breakthrough for madrid

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January 30, 2022, 02:05:34 PM
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From their 6 meetings, Real Madrid have an advantage over Paris Saint-Germain, but this is a different situation. In the Champions League, I see Real Madrid is not an easy team to beat. They can always come back with a win.
They have a very good attack creator, moreover their counter attack is unquestionable. Although it won't be easy, I predict Real Madrid will come out victorious.
Hopefully you are right and Real Madrid can come out victorious at the end of this season in the Champions League, although other teams also always play very well in every game in the Champions League because this is the highest caste in all other Leagues, so each team needs to improve their way of playing here during the round of 16.
Yes, at least they can beat Paris Saint-Germain and go to the next round. But to talk about who will lift the Champions League Trophy this season is too early. Because other teams also have the same opportunities. Especially looking at Bayern Munich, for the past few seasons Munich has always been one of the strong candidates to win the Champions League title.

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I never doubted these three players who were already unquestionable in their individual skills. but indeed the problem of ego and play which tends to prioritize their individualistic skills is still evident in some PSG matches and this could be a boomerang for them.
maybe there are some weaknesses in real madrid especially when they attack which often forgets their defense area but in terms of cohesiveness I still believe in the midfield and front line of Real madrid
Because they want to appear or be in the spotlight, this is for the future. we all know Mbappe is Real Madrid's target, they won't be interested anymore when he playing badly and not consistent. Pochetino must look at situations, that are possible on forwarding in centerfield. if they want to win, the ball supply must be on Messi or Neymar and forwarding into Mbappe. I don't find the Madrid problem, maybe a defensive midfielder has to be active for this time.
what you say is true, and also very strategically correct
your technical contribution and your analysis are very intelligent
however what is missing in this trio is a strong synergy, individually they are very strong but together?
Not always great champions manage to do well together, if they succeed they become unstoppable

Yes, ego has been a problem for these 3. I have seen clips where Mbappe was clear of defenders but Neymar didn't pass him just because he wanted to score himself and missed the goal.

Maybe that's not the case for Messi as he is a great team player. So the chemistry among these 3 needs to be really good, both in and outside the field. And I don't think Real Madrid's defense is a big problem as maybe they can ask Éder Militão to work a bit heavier than other times in the defense.

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what you say is true, and also very strategically correct
your technical contribution and your analysis are very intelligent
however what is missing in this trio is a strong synergy, individually they are very strong but together?
Not always great champions manage to do well together, if they succeed they become unstoppable
Sometimes you do not need all three of them to be great together. We all know Neymar and Messi played together and if the two of them play a great game together where Mbappe is bad, then it will be fine and they could still score together, they could have a great play. We also know that Neymar and Mbappe have been playing together for a while as well, and they do have some chemistry which means that the two of them could play great and if Messi is not then it would be fine.

So, if 2 out of 3 plays amazing, they will be better than whatever Real Madrid throws at them, and they can win the game very easily. What the problem really is all about, is the fact that all three could play differently in an individual way and it could be very bad for the team. At least two of them need to work together and find a way to actually connect.

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