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August 23, 2019, 04:37:21 PM
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...are you saying that if you had spent years developing this treatment that uses in combination various chemotherapy drugs along with one other drug that has been used daily for over 25 years that you would just go out and tell everyone how to use these two drugs...

Of course not but there are multiple ways to secure your product (in this case treatment) with special trading marks, licenses or even patents.

This is a simple and honest answer. I think it would be hard for you to convince me that there is no legal way to secure your product.

Just after one treatment, your special formula will be lost. If this is so special then they would send somebody who will make the treatment and describes everything with details later on.

Everyone who gets the treatment needs to sign a NDA.  So we can sue them if they do that.  There is no trademark. That is used for words or statements.  No license and the only patent is a Process Patent.  Not a product patent.  Process patent, patents the process or way we use the drugs in combination.  We have those but we also have the trade secret laws in the US where if we alway protect ourselves by having everyone sign a NDA and someone break that agreement then we can sue them and if we win we get 3x the award given by the court.  So if the damages we are awarded are $10 million the losing party would have to pay us $30 million.  That is a significant deterrent.

Also if you read our website or this thread you will see that just alone in the US there are 89 million dogs and the statistics show that 25% of them will get cancer (22.25 million dogs would have cancer in their lifetime) and there are 6 million new cases of cancer in dogs each year.  Even if we had 200 clinics we could not treat a potentai 22 million dogs with cancer OR EVEN the 6 million new cases of cancer each year in dogs.

All we want to do it set up our clinics as the first to market and that we also have the inventor as part of the company.  And we believe that will have people coming to use first.

Also after December 2019, most veterinarian's will not be able to use our treatment.  Because our treatment uses injectable chemotherapy and there is a new law USP<800> that has new requirements. I wrote this earlier in this threat....As of December 31, 2019 at Midnight, a new compliant protocol that all Veterinarians, their staff and their facility must have takes effect. They must be in compliance with it by then if not they will be fined and can lose their license. It is called USP <800>.  This is specifically for using injectable chemotherapy which is what we use.  Any Veterianarian Clinice that plans to use injectable chemotherapy to treat dogs with cancer must make their clinic compliant.  The cost of equipment in each facility is around $200,000 or more.  Includes using a special zero pressure box to put the chemo into the spring.  And every must wear special gowns, gloves and masks. So many Vet clinics will not be able to afford that cost.  Each of OUR Canine Cancer Centers will be FULLY COMPLIANT.  This means more Vet clinics will have to refer their patients to us insuring that we will have a lot of referrals.

And because of these USP <800> laws the owners of the dogs can not be back in the treatment room so unless the dog can read and right they owners will not know how the treatment works.

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August 23, 2019, 05:17:29 PM
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Interesting project! I have met few blockchain projects that will help medicine. How much money did you plan to raise?

Looking for $25 Million.We have a very adaptable business model.  We do not have to raise the full amount. If we raise $3 Million, we will immediate go and open between 2 to 3 Canine Cancer Centers in the U.S.  And if that was all we raised; we would be fine.  We would just grow slower as we used the profits to open more clinics.

If we raise $10 Million in the pre-sale.  We will be able to build 5 or more Canine Cancer Centers AND we can open a few human clinics in the Caribbean. 

In fact, if we were to raise the $10 Million in the Pre-Sale, I most likely would delayed the Main Sale and go and open the 5 clinics and a few clinics for people.  Run them for 6 to 9 months, so they show revenue and profit, then I would come back to raise the rest in the Main-Sale.  Because with $25 to 40 Million, we could have 10 to 20 Canine Cancer Clinics and just as many clinics for people around the world. And with the profits continue to build more and pay out dividends.

But.... if that was the case and we did indeed raise the $10 Million in the Pre-sale and delayed the Main Sale, I can assure you that the prices of the token for the Main Sale would not be the $0.20 USD price we are showing now.  If we had 6 to 9 months of showing actual revenues and we are showing a profit.  And by then we would be on a exchange. Then the token price would be....  Well again I cannot and will not speculation but the valuation our company would be then be significantly higher which would then increase the price of the tokens significantly.

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I see that you have an honest budget. I even thought that you might not have enough money to open a network of clinics. Alas, I do not know how much it costs in the USA.
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August 23, 2019, 05:18:25 PM
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 The use the same drugs.  90% of all drugs used to treat dogs for various issues are actually human drugs that are use on humans for the same thing.  The are very few drugs created just for dogs.  And only ONE cancer drug.  The rest of the drugs used to treat cancer in dogs are human cancer drugs being use as "grey label or off label" when using a human drug on dogs.

If your method of treating dogs works well then why doesn't it work in humans? Drugs the same and probably have long approved by official medicine. People are being treated but many people continue to die of cancer. I do not argue that cancer is incurable at all. But there are different types and stages of cancer. Although the genome of dogs and humans are similar, but there are probably significant differences.

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August 23, 2019, 05:30:36 PM
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If you look at things more soberly that the project can be seen as an investment in running the business treatment of dogs. In my opinion, the victory over cancer is still very far away.

Yes it is a good investment when you look at treating dogs with cancer BUT only if the treatment works.  

So... I am going to make an effort to be as detailed as possible to show you how the treatment works. It is proprietary but I can explain quite a bit.

Here we go:  All cells have what are called MDR protein pumps.  Think of them like a like a straw and when a cell senses something wrong entering the cell, the MDR's will basically pump it out.

One of those drugs that cells reject with the MDR protein pumps are chemotherapy drugs. That is why with normal Chemotherapy treatment, they use such large doses of Chemotherapy drugs to try and kill the cell.  Because as the chemo is entering the cell, the MDR pump is getting it out of the cell.  So if they use large doses of the chemotherapy drug, some hopefully will stay in the cancer cells and kill the cancer.  Hopefully!   That is also why patients have terrible side effects.  Because of these large doses of the chemo patients can make the patient nauseated, they can't eat and they lose their hair plus other side effects.

So what if we could temporarily, say for 70 minutes, turn off the MDR protein pumps? The result would be that even, if we use small doses of the chemo drugs, small enough to not produce bad side effect, the chemo would still work and kill the cancer cells.

So how do we get the cells to turn of their MDR portent pumps for this short period of time or better put how do we specifically turn off the MDR protein pumps in the cancer cells and the cancer stem cells which are the ones that spread the cancer.  

The answer is in understanding that cancer cells, and especially cancer stem cells, are producing at a fast rate and need a lot of energy to do this.  More than normal cells.  So if we for a period of say 70 minutes had a way to deprive the cancer cells of their energy source and because they are constantly grabbing what they need for energy before normal cells do, then IF WE depriving them of these sources of energy, we weaken the cancer cells to the point that they have no energy to properly and efficiently use their MDR protein pumps to eliminate the chemotherapy drugs EVEN when we only use 10% of the normal dose. Thus we are able to kill the cancer cells.

That is the treatment in a nut shell.  And we administer all the drugs, per treatment, over a 70 to 90 minute treatment session via an IV transfusion.  Treatments are most often administered twice a week.  The number of weekly treatments needed depends on the cancer and how far it has progresses.  

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August 23, 2019, 05:47:23 PM
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There is no sense to talk about IEO, because here is an STO, so better discuss this type of fundraising. It seems like one of the first STOs from what I know
Tell for those who do not understand. And what is the difference between STO, IEO and ICO for example?

STO is a security token offering, for example. SO, otken with dividends minimum are selling, or with vote right in addition, like Adsana's SANA.
That is, when buying tokens through a STO, does the owner have more rights and opportunities regarding ICO?

There are several types of security tokens, but when we are talking about SANA security token, they give a holder a vote right and a right for dividends.
Thanks for the competent answer. So it makes sense to hold tokens for a long time in order to earn interest?

That would be a wise move bitinka and while you are collecting those dividends the price of the SANA token could rise in value so that you basically have equity in the company that grows.  Like a saving account.  I hope that makes sense.

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Sounds interesting. I think I can hold tokens to good growth, at least. Part to sell, and the rest to leave for the future. Thanks Gary.
Its hard to predict will be token x10 in this year or in near few years. So you have a good startegy
Of course, no one can predict this. The market will put everything in its place when the time comes. I definitely do not plan to sell my tokens cheaply.

Good idea.  Another good idea is to buy some SANA tokens and hold
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August 23, 2019, 05:54:14 PM
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I see that you have an honest budget. I even thought that you might not have enough money to open a network of clinics. Alas, I do not know how much it costs in the USA.
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With $10 million and even more with $25 Million we can do it.  You must realize that our growth is also dependent on opening at least 10 to 20 and using part of the profits from them to open more clinics.  We need about $500,000 to $700,000 to open a Canine Cancer Center AND have enough to fund the operation cost for one year.  We do not expect to have to support a clinic for one year.  We fully expect profits to exceed operating cost fairly quickly.  But I also try and have back up funds for operating cost.  

We can even do this plan with only 3 clinics but it will take longer.

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If you look at things more soberly that the project can be seen as an investment in running the business treatment of dogs. In my opinion, the victory over cancer is still very far away.

Yes it is a good investment when you look at treating dogs with cancer BUT only if the treatment works. 

So... I am going to make an effort to be as detailed as possible to show you how the treatment works. It is proprietary but I can explain quite a bit.

Here we go:  All cells have what are called MDR protein pumps.  Think of them like a like a straw and when a cell senses something wrong entering the cell, the MDR's will basically pump it out.

One of those drugs that cells reject with the MDR protein pumps are chemotherapy drugs. That is why with normal Chemotherapy treatment, they use such large doses of Chemotherapy drugs to try and kill the cell.  Because as the chemo is entering the cell, the MDR pump is getting it out of the cell.  So if they use large doses of the chemotherapy drug, some hopefully will stay in the cancer cells and kill the cancer.  Hopefully!   That is also why patients have terrible side effects.  Because of these large doses of the chemo patients can make the patient nauseated, they can't eat and they lose their hair plus other side effects.

So what if we could temporarily, say for 70 minutes, turn off the MDR protein pumps? The result would be that even, if we use small doses of the chemo drugs, small enough to not produce bad side effect, the chemo would still work and kill the cancer cells.

So how do we get the cells to turn of their MDR portent pumps for this short period of time or better put how do we specifically turn off the MDR protein pumps in the cancer cells and the cancer stem cells which are the ones that spread the cancer. 

The answer is in understanding that cancer cells, and especially cancer stem cells, are producing at a fast rate and need a lot of energy to do this.  More than normal cells.  So if we for a period of say 70 minutes had a way to deprive the cancer cells of their energy source and because they are constantly grabbing what they need for energy before normal cells do, then IF WE depriving them of these sources of energy, we weaken the cancer cells to the point that they have no energy to properly and efficiently use their MDR protein pumps to eliminate the chemotherapy drugs EVEN when we only use 10% of the normal dose. Thus we are able to kill the cancer cells.

That is the treatment in a nut shell.  And we administer all the drugs, per treatment, over a 70 to 90 minute treatment session via an IV transfusion.  Treatments are most often administered twice a week.  The number of weekly treatments needed depends on the cancer and how far it has progresses.   



Is there a likelihood of reversibility of the treatment process? I read that it happens that some small cancer cells still remain, apparently all the harmful cells are not completely removed, and the cancer manifests itself again.



I see that you have an honest budget. I even thought that you might not have enough money to open a network of clinics. Alas, I do not know how much it costs in the USA.
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With $10 million and even more with $25 Million we can do it.  You must realize that our growth is also dependent on opening at least 10 to 20 and using part of the profits from them to open more clinics.  We need about $500,000 to $700,000 to open a Canine Cancer Center AND have enough to fund the operation cost for one year.  We do not expect to have to support a clinic for one year.  We fully expect profits to exceed operating cost fairly quickly.  But I also try and have back up funds for operating cost. 

We can even do this plan with only 3 clinics but it will take longer.

Gary
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I think you need not only to hold bounty companies and attract investors, but also to attract the media and talk about your noble goals, I think this will help a lot.



I can only answer for myself. As I already wrote I not specialist in medicine and I at all fear different medical procedures. Therefore, there can be no question about the theft of your technology even if I have something to see. To invest or not here everyone has to decide for himself.


I think the main thing here is not to invest, or not, but to invest for what purpose, in such a project you cannot pursue the goal of only making money, here you need to think that this is a project designed to help people, the noble goal of the project.




And I want to ask everyone a question.  IF I would to show you exactly how the treatment is done.  And gave you the science to back it up would more people on Bitcointalk invest?  Or are they just scared.  And if I gave show you the exact science how many of you would think that someone would steal the idea and do it on their own?

Please everyone who sees this I would like your answer.

Gary

I think that If you showed how exactly the treatment is carried out it could help investors to make a decision.  It's one thing when someone says and promises, and another when you can see the real thing. On the other hand, it is not necessary to disclose all the details of treatment that can be stolen.

I think investors don’t really care how the treatment is carried out, and it’s unlikely that they understand something, the main thing is to have some guarantees that the project will succeed and that the clinics will really be built and bring profit to the project, and therefore profit for investors.



...And I want to ask everyone a question.  IF I would to show you exactly how the treatment is done.  And gave you the science to back it up would more people on Bitcointalk invest?  Or are they just scared.  And if I gave show you the exact science how many of you would think that someone would steal the idea and do it on their own?

Please everyone who sees this I would like your answer.

Of course, a lot more people would invest if they will be able to verify if the procedure works in real life.

I just don't believe that you are not exposing all details because are afraid that somebody stills your technology.

To be honest, if there is a working treatment against cancer then this is like a holy grail and pharmaceutic companies would pay billions to get it. Additionally, if this really works from 2009 then multiple treatments have to be made to this date so I assume if anybody wants he could have all the details a long time ago.

Sorry, but i don't believe it. I haven't heard anything about a cure for cancer so far.

Unfortunately, no one is so eager to find and buy a cure for cancer, it is beneficial for many powerful people to get sick and spend a lot of money on operations, procedures and medicines, unfortunately this is now a business.



I mean, a lot of people don't get well, they die. The problem of human mortality from cancer is very serious. I am not an expert in medicine but I think that it is not necessary to position the treatment of dogs and people as almost the same.

Let me tell you a true story.  In 2003,  the National Institute of Health (NIH) alone with biomedical and veterinary researchers around the globe, started the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), one of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

A team led by Kerstin Lindblad-Toh, Ph.D., of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard, Cambridge, Mass., and Agencourt Bioscience Corp., Beverly, Mass., successfully assembled the genome of the domestic dog (Canis familiaris). The breed of dog sequenced was the boxer, which was chosen after analyses of 60 dog breeds found it was one of the breeds with the least amount of variation in its genome and therefore likely to provide the most reliable reference genome sequence.  They spent $30 million USD doing this.

Now if you read that closely what was started was the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), by the National Institutes of Health (NIH).  Yet they used a dog for sequencing or mapping the genome sequence.

So you might ask why did they use a dog in a Genome Research project for humans? 

Well one of the reasons is that they believe the cures for most cancer in humans will come from cancer research in dogs.  Because dogs get cancer like humans.  Before this, when working with mice and such, they would insert under the skin a certain cancer tumor and then try to treat it.  But with dogs, they get cancer in the same places as people.  They get lung cancer, breast cancer, prostrate and others.  So when researchers work with treating dogs that have cancer, 90% of that research will translate (also work on) to people.

So the reason the NIH was willing to spend $30 million to map the genome of the dog as part of the National Human Genome Research is WHY I can say confidently that this treatment will work on both dogs and people.  And remember, that it has already been working successfully on people since 2009.

Gary

You can read all about it at this link https://www.genome.gov/12511476/2004-advisory-dog-genome-assembled
Many medicines and medical techniques are tested on animals. But develop and real use are not the same, especially if it's for people. I don't know all the testing stages, but should be clinical trials at least. I also think that different types of cancer need different drugs and techniques. Therefore, between the treatment of dogs and treatment of people from the point of view of official medicine  must be a very big difference.

I think there will be a lot of people who want to try treatment, especially if this is a chance to avoid chemotherapy, because it really has a very detrimental effect on the human body.



As I understood the project does not promise investors a quick profit, but promises them to participate in the profits of the company and ensures that the price of the token will not fall. That's interesting.

Yes, mine is very important in investing - some guarantees that there will be profit, and even if not immediately, but gradually there will be a plus. As I have said many times - now few projects can save the value of the token after going public, it’s a big deal right now.



A really working cancer drug would be a revolution in medicine. and people with only a small part of the rights (investment) to this drug could become very rich people. But the problem is that no one knows when such a drug will be created.

The main thing is that the people in the hands of who will have this medicine remain people and do not sell it for crazy money, so that they don’t give a damn about other people's lives.
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August 23, 2019, 08:11:37 PM
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What you are doing is multiposting and is not allowed on the forum. Even worse because is against the forum rules and you can be punished especially that you post 7 posts in a row.

This should be one long post with all quotes and answers inside. You are still Junior member so I guess didn't know about this.

I would suggest to edit one post and delete others before moderators will step in.

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A really working cancer drug would be a revolution in medicine. and people with only a small part of the rights (investment) to this drug could become very rich people. But the problem is that no one knows when such a drug will be created.

I really don't think you are reading any of the posts by mean.  If you would, you would know it is NOT a drug that we have created nor do we need a new drugs.  We use existing drugs for our treatment and it works.

And yes we are selling the treatments at a fair cost and that is a noble cause but we do need to make money and profits so we can build more.  So we will manage our business and expenses properly and we will promote our clinics so we can make profits to build more clinics and pay out dividends to our SANA token holders.

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What you are doing is multiposting and is not allowed on the forum. Even worse because is against the forum rules and you can be punished especially that you post 7 posts in a row.

This should be one long post with all quotes and answers inside. You are still Junior member so I guess didn't know about this.

I would suggest to edit one post and delete others before moderators will step in.

I would advise you not to advertise your exchanges here, we have a completely different project and another topic that we are actively discussing with the guys.
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I would advise you not to advertise your exchanges here, we have a completely different project and another topic that we are actively discussing with the guys.

You are breaking forum rules (bumping, multi-posting) and spam this thread with your signature when post 9 times in a row.

I have seen that you are still new here, so I wanted to remind you about this because many newbies don't know the forum rules.

But you try to be sarcastic and funny, so let's look what would happen next. I assume, nothing good for you.

archived for reverence: https://web.archive.org/web/20190824070947/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163883.new

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Here is an example of post published by an established member @Loycev, who is posting multiple answers to many members (at the same time) only in one post, as it should be and as forum rules say.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178098.msg52243246#msg52243246


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A really working cancer drug would be a revolution in medicine. and people with only a small part of the rights (investment) to this drug could become very rich people. But the problem is that no one knows when such a drug will be created.

The main thing is that the people in the hands of who will have this medicine remain people and do not sell it for crazy money, so that they don’t give a damn about other people's lives.
If they do not violate the laws and claims to them can not be. These are the realities of modern life. But I hope that there are people for whom money is not important and they just want to help other people.

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I can only answer for myself. As I already wrote I not specialist in medicine and I at all fear different medical procedures. Therefore, there can be no question about the theft of your technology even if I have something to see. To invest or not here everyone has to decide for himself.


I think the main thing here is not to invest, or not, but to invest for what purpose, in such a project you cannot pursue the goal of only making money, here you need to think that this is a project designed to help people, the noble goal of the project.
Everyone should help people to the best of their abilities. But still the project is positioned as an investment opportunity and promises income in the future. Therefore, you need to be realistic and decide for yourself the expediency of these investments.

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August 24, 2019, 01:18:29 PM
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A really working cancer drug would be a revolution in medicine. and people with only a small part of the rights (investment) to this drug could become very rich people. But the problem is that no one knows when such a drug will be created.

The main thing is that the people in the hands of who will have this medicine remain people and do not sell it for crazy money, so that they don’t give a damn about other people's lives.
If they do not violate the laws and claims to them can not be. These are the realities of modern life. But I hope that there are people for whom money is not important and they just want to help other people.

Money is important for everyone, unfortunately we won’t be able to exist normally without it, the main thing is that it should not be more important than human lives and health.
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Some people find the cost of medicine excessive.and they blame the companies for deliberately overcharging. I think this is only partly true. Medical research and drug development are indeed very expensive.

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As I understood the project does not promise investors a quick profit, but promises them to participate in the profits of the company and ensures that the price of the token will not fall. That's interesting.

Yes, mine is very important in investing - some guarantees that there will be profit, and even if not immediately, but gradually there will be a plus. As I have said many times - now few projects can save the value of the token after going public, it’s a big deal right now.
Many projects make different promises but not all of them are fulfilled. This project has one important point, they already have a working business and they do not raise money to start a business.
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I mean, a lot of people don't get well, they die. The problem of human mortality from cancer is very serious. I am not an expert in medicine but I think that it is not necessary to position the treatment of dogs and people as almost the same.

Let me tell you a true story.  In 2003,  the National Institute of Health (NIH) alone with biomedical and veterinary researchers around the globe, started the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), one of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

A team led by Kerstin Lindblad-Toh, Ph.D., of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard, Cambridge, Mass., and Agencourt Bioscience Corp., Beverly, Mass., successfully assembled the genome of the domestic dog (Canis familiaris). The breed of dog sequenced was the boxer, which was chosen after analyses of 60 dog breeds found it was one of the breeds with the least amount of variation in its genome and therefore likely to provide the most reliable reference genome sequence.  They spent $30 million USD doing this.

Now if you read that closely what was started was the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), by the National Institutes of Health (NIH).  Yet they used a dog for sequencing or mapping the genome sequence.

So you might ask why did they use a dog in a Genome Research project for humans? 

Well one of the reasons is that they believe the cures for most cancer in humans will come from cancer research in dogs.  Because dogs get cancer like humans.  Before this, when working with mice and such, they would insert under the skin a certain cancer tumor and then try to treat it.  But with dogs, they get cancer in the same places as people.  They get lung cancer, breast cancer, prostrate and others.  So when researchers work with treating dogs that have cancer, 90% of that research will translate (also work on) to people.

So the reason the NIH was willing to spend $30 million to map the genome of the dog as part of the National Human Genome Research is WHY I can say confidently that this treatment will work on both dogs and people.  And remember, that it has already been working successfully on people since 2009.

Gary

You can read all about it at this link https://www.genome.gov/12511476/2004-advisory-dog-genome-assembled
Many medicines and medical techniques are tested on animals. But develop and real use are not the same, especially if it's for people. I don't know all the testing stages, but should be clinical trials at least. I also think that different types of cancer need different drugs and techniques. Therefore, between the treatment of dogs and treatment of people from the point of view of official medicine  must be a very big difference.

I think there will be a lot of people who want to try treatment, especially if this is a chance to avoid chemotherapy, because it really has a very detrimental effect on the human body.
Terminally ill people are probably willing to do anything just to recover. But, unfortunately, there is still no way guaranteed to cure cancer.

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As soon as the money is returned to me, I am going to invest in your project. Thank you, Gary, you are a very nice person.

What do you mean the money is returned to you?
I mean, some people owe me money. And soon they should return, I am going to invest them in your clinic. This is not such a large amount of money, but I will help the project than I can.



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...And I want to ask everyone a question.  IF I would to show you exactly how the treatment is done.  And gave you the science to back it up would more people on Bitcointalk invest?  Or are they just scared.  And if I gave show you the exact science how many of you would think that someone would steal the idea and do it on their own?

Please everyone who sees this I would like your answer.

Of course, a lot more people would invest if they will be able to verify if the procedure works in real life.

I just don't believe that you are not exposing all details because are afraid that somebody stills your technology.

To be honest, if there is a working treatment against cancer then this is like a holy grail and pharmaceutic companies would pay billions to get it. Additionally, if this really works from 2009 then multiple treatments have to be made to this date so I assume if anybody wants he could have all the details a long time ago.

Sorry, but i don't believe it. I haven't heard anything about a cure for cancer so far.
Perhaps Gary cannot disclose the full information. This is a corporate secret.



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I mean, a lot of people don't get well, they die. The problem of human mortality from cancer is very serious. I am not an expert in medicine but I think that it is not necessary to position the treatment of dogs and people as almost the same.

Let me tell you a true story.  In 2003,  the National Institute of Health (NIH) alone with biomedical and veterinary researchers around the globe, started the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), one of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

A team led by Kerstin Lindblad-Toh, Ph.D., of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard, Cambridge, Mass., and Agencourt Bioscience Corp., Beverly, Mass., successfully assembled the genome of the domestic dog (Canis familiaris). The breed of dog sequenced was the boxer, which was chosen after analyses of 60 dog breeds found it was one of the breeds with the least amount of variation in its genome and therefore likely to provide the most reliable reference genome sequence.  They spent $30 million USD doing this.

Now if you read that closely what was started was the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), by the National Institutes of Health (NIH).  Yet they used a dog for sequencing or mapping the genome sequence.

So you might ask why did they use a dog in a Genome Research project for humans? 

Well one of the reasons is that they believe the cures for most cancer in humans will come from cancer research in dogs.  Because dogs get cancer like humans.  Before this, when working with mice and such, they would insert under the skin a certain cancer tumor and then try to treat it.  But with dogs, they get cancer in the same places as people.  They get lung cancer, breast cancer, prostrate and others.  So when researchers work with treating dogs that have cancer, 90% of that research will translate (also work on) to people.

So the reason the NIH was willing to spend $30 million to map the genome of the dog as part of the National Human Genome Research is WHY I can say confidently that this treatment will work on both dogs and people.  And remember, that it has already been working successfully on people since 2009.

Gary

You can read all about it at this link https://www.genome.gov/12511476/2004-advisory-dog-genome-assembled
Many medicines and medical techniques are tested on animals. But develop and real use are not the same, especially if it's for people. I don't know all the testing stages, but should be clinical trials at least. I also think that different types of cancer need different drugs and techniques. Therefore, between the treatment of dogs and treatment of people from the point of view of official medicine  must be a very big difference.

I think there will be a lot of people who want to try treatment, especially if this is a chance to avoid chemotherapy, because it really has a very detrimental effect on the human body.
Terminally ill people are probably willing to do anything just to recover. But, unfortunately, there is still no way guaranteed to cure cancer.

Well, as far as I know - for many, treatment in the early stages of cancer saved their lives, there are even cases of cure in the final stages of cancer.
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