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August 30, 2024, 02:10:54 AM
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Lol what just happened here? Did they really drop Shaheen from the Squad and that too at home or he's not fully fit and rested?

His FIL won't be happy to see his Son in law getting sidelined like this. One could speculate anything, including politics in the Pakistani team but he's not the same bowler after the injury, his pace is missing, and not able to find his rhythm.

I remember Shastri's words in the last ODI WC "He's good but FFS (Adding his emotions) he's not Wasim".



The reason that is viral recently is that Shaheen Shah Afridi misbehaved with Shan Masood in front of the crowd and the umpires that is why Shan Masood may not give him chance to play. It is the personal matter between Shaheen and Shan Masood that could be the reason. I am research on this as well and internal matters within the Pakistan team not looking good. However, still it is not confirmed whether Shaheen plays tomorrow or not.
Not sure if that is the case because Shaheen's PR and lobby within PCB are stronger than Shan's. My bet would be on resting because of the pitch and one can also mix it with performance as well (Still he's a big name, at least in Pak.
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August 30, 2024, 02:51:22 AM
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Pakistan vs Bangladesh 2nd Test Match

After winning the first match now Bangladesh is ready to play the second match with Pakistan. First match win was an unexpected win means 90% chances was that the match will be drawn but Bangladesh proven that they can win that kind of match too.
Well tiday is the second match and I think Bangladesh will perform well again but here we can't underestimate Pakistan too because their performance was also excellent in the first inning. So both teams will play toughly so let's wait and see who will perform well.

Pakistan 🆚 Bangladesh | 2ndTest
Pre-match media conference | Chandika Hathurusingha, Bangladesh Head Coach
Source and Video Link: https://x.com/BCBtigers/status/1829121357986329061?t=80TqgLXgPb3WlyDGqjexLw&s=19


Bangladesh team head coach Hathurisingh is very confident in this second test match, Bangladesh team won the first test match by 10 wickets. So, if the Bangladesh team can perform batting very seriously and confidently in this second test match, then it is definitely possible to win the second match as well. Because the coach of the Bangladesh team has given the direction, of course, if the players can control the right batsmen at the right time, victory can be assured in this match.

 Meanwhile, the players of the Pakistan team are confident that they will win the second match after they lost the first match and came out of the shell of losing the second match. So this second match can only be won by the team that can perform seriously well.



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August 30, 2024, 02:52:24 AM
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This sounds interesting. If this is a political move, I think such moves will not help the Pakistan Government's cause of holding Imran Khan supporters. Pakistan's political landscape is not looking good and they have border tensions with their neighbours. Things are not good for either Bangladesh or Pakistan on political fronts.

No, we don't have any tension with the neighbours, it is our own government and army that is againist the civilians and uses the countries resources for thier own benefit. Even if one day India or any neighbouring country attacked Pakistan, we will be standing againist our army  Smiley


Lol what just happened here? Did they really drop Shaheen from the Squad and that too at home or he's not fully fit and rested?  

This unexpected news has been taken storm by the social media and there are many rumours floating in the market. Some says that Shaheen has been given rest to spend time with his family as he become the father of a baby boy last week. Some syas that he needs time to work on his bowling and come back strong. I don't agree with these lame excuses and believe that there is some huge politics going on within the team that forced such decisions.

Pakistan drops Shaheen Shah Afridi for 2nd test against Bangladesh

3 reasons why Pakistan dropping Shaheen Shah Afridi for 2nd Test vs Bangladesh is the right move

Head Coach Explains Why Pakistan Drop Shaheen Shah Afridi For 2nd Test Against Bangladesh

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August 30, 2024, 03:13:48 AM
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Pakistan vs Bangladesh 2nd Test Match

After winning the first match now Bangladesh is ready to play the second match with Pakistan. First match win was an unexpected win means 90% chances was that the match will be drawn but Bangladesh proven that they can win that kind of match too.
Well tiday is the second match and I think Bangladesh will perform well again but here we can't underestimate Pakistan too because their performance was also excellent in the first inning. So both teams will play toughly so let's wait and see who will perform well.

Here are the chances that on the first day of the match between Pakistan and Bangladesh, there is not good weather in Rawalpindi and there could be rain on the first day of the next match due to the weather conditions and till now here is the rain too. The Pakistan team is in danger of a series loss, if this match will tie then Pakistan may lose this series.

The reason is that there are the chances for rain too in the last match on 3rd September 2024, meanwhile, you can say perhaps 2 days may be wasted due to rain according to the Google weather forecast. I hope this forecast will be wrong and we have a full 5 days of non-stop cricket.

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August 30, 2024, 04:13:13 AM
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The second Test match of Pakistan vs Bangladesh will be held, and this match will be very important for both the teams. If the Bangladesh team can play a good game in today's match, then they will be ahead and have a chance to win the series. And if Pakistan team wins then of course the results of both teams will be equal, so both teams will play well in today's match. We saw the first match Bangladesh team won by 10 wickets which was really interesting according to today's match if Bangladesh can play well then surely they can make good score. However, since we know Pakistan as the stronger team among these two teams as they have won every match they played against Bangladesh before, only Bangladesh managed to win the first match of this series.

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August 30, 2024, 05:21:22 AM
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England team is always strong for Tests be it against Australia India or South Africa and in any conditions.
I would humbly suggest that if you don't watch or are aware of test cricket, you shouldn't make such generic observations about anything. It looks bad and fair amount of posters might take such statements as a troll or signature spam.

Only reason I responded is because I wanted to point out that, this statement would've made a lot more sense if there had been no mention of Australia and India.
I have mentioned India and Australia in my previous post because in the Tests played in the last few years, England have given tough competition to India as well as Australia. If you look at the Ashes series, Australia wins one match and England wins the other. Nothing like that happened in the Ashes series where Australia won all the matches single-handedly. 

The second test match between England and Sri Lanka is going on and this test series is being held in England considering the conditions and England's performance I can definitely put England ahead in this case I am not criticizing any team or I am not commenting without watching the game. The first innings of the second Test match is still going on where England managed to score 358 runs for 7 wickets at the end of the first day. If 400 plus runs are added to the scoreboard, then it will be difficult for Sri Lanka to score this run in the first innings.

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August 30, 2024, 05:56:07 AM
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~snip~
I have mentioned India and Australia in my previous post because in the Tests played in the last few years, England have given tough competition to India as well as Australia. If you look at the Ashes series, Australia wins one match and England wins the other. Nothing like that happened in the Ashes series where Australia won all the matches single-handedly.  
In Red ball, Home (Easy) and Away (Hard) tour paints a complete picture, sometimes context also matters (like toss, who's available or not etc). Don't let BAZBALL fool you. Against India and Australia Yes, they've improved under the new coach and skipper but only in vibes.

They barely manage to draw the last Ashes and that too at home after winning 4 toss. Similarly IND vs ENG series also saw a draw and the main reason wasn't performance but IPL Schedule, mismanagement and random one-off test, just to conclude the series and it ended up 2-2. India was leading 2-1.

That was their home record in the last 2-3 years against IND/AUS and as far as their away tour goes these are the numbers of their last 3 tours.

Ashes In Australia
2013 : 5-0
2017 : 4-0
2021 : 4-0

In India
2016 : 4-0
2020 : 3-1
2024 : 4-1  

Some would argue (Which is fair) that the last series was competitive but they forget India had a fresh batting lineup and lost 4 tosses + won 1 match by an inning + won 1 match by freaking 434 runs + 1 match by over 100 runs). Some might also argue that England had the rookie spinners, well when did they have any spinners anyway except in the 2013 series (Panesar-Swann)
 
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August 30, 2024, 06:32:42 AM
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The second test match between England and Sri Lanka is going on and this test series is being held in England considering the conditions and England's performance I can definitely put England ahead in this case I am not criticizing any team or I am not commenting without watching the game. The first innings of the second Test match is still going on where England managed to score 358 runs for 7 wickets at the end of the first day. If 400 plus runs are added to the scoreboard, then it will be difficult for Sri Lanka to score this run in the first innings.

The England team has recovered well in this test match. There was a time when England team were 5 wickets down at 192 runs. At that moment, it was a golden opportunity for the Sri Lanka to take the remaining wickets and get a strong hold on the game but they missed this chance. Joe Root rescue the England team and he made 143 runs alone and that is the reason we see England over 350 with still three wickets in hand.

I bet on the England team as I think that they are more stronger than Sri Lanka and may remain on the upper hand for most of the sessions in this test match.




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August 30, 2024, 06:56:04 AM
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Lol what just happened here? Did they really drop Shaheen from the Squad and that too at home or he's not fully fit and rested?

His FIL won't be happy to see his Son in law getting sidelined like this. One could speculate anything, including politics in the Pakistani team but he's not the same bowler after the injury, his pace is missing, and not able to find his rhythm.

I remember Shastri's words in the last ODI WC "He's good but FFS (Adding his emotions) he's not Wasim".



The reason that is viral recently is that Shaheen Shah Afridi misbehaved with Shan Masood in front of the crowd and the umpires that is why Shan Masood may not give him chance to play. It is the personal matter between Shaheen and Shan Masood that could be the reason. I am research on this as well and internal matters within the Pakistan team not looking good. However, still it is not confirmed whether Shaheen plays tomorrow or not.
Not sure if that is the case because Shaheen's PR and lobby within PCB are stronger than Shan's. My bet would be on resting because of the pitch and one can also mix it with performance as well (Still he's a big name, at least in Pak.

The Test match between Pakistan and Bangladesh team was supposed to start, but the match has been postponed till now due to rain. The rain has not come under control so far, so the outcome of this second test match will depend on the decision taken by the cricket board.  Since the match has not started, the possibility of restarting the game is very high.

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August 30, 2024, 09:53:08 AM
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Lol what just happened here? Did they really drop Shaheen from the Squad and that too at home or he's not fully fit and rested?

His FIL won't be happy to see his Son in law getting sidelined like this. One could speculate anything, including politics in the Pakistani team but he's not the same bowler after the injury, his pace is missing, and not able to find his rhythm.

I remember Shastri's words in the last ODI WC "He's good but FFS (Adding his emotions) he's not Wasim".



The Rain interrupted the first day of play, and the weather conditions in Rawlpandi are not good. Rain continues falling and I don't think play will resume today. Pakistan team announced their playing XI and made two changes Abrar Ahmad and Mir Hamza replaced Shaheen Shah Afridi in a second test match against Bangladesh. I Think Pakistan make a good change If Mir Hamza is performing well in this test match. he will indeed be a strong option in Test matches. Abrar Ahmad is also a good spin bowler who can turn the match position at any time. It’s always good to see players like Mir Hamza and Abrar Ahmad come up in the team and making an impact by giving amazing performance.

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August 30, 2024, 10:10:00 AM
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The second test match between England and Sri Lanka is going on and this test series is being held in England considering the conditions and England's performance I can definitely put England ahead in this case I am not criticizing any team or I am not commenting without watching the game. The first innings of the second Test match is still going on where England managed to score 358 runs for 7 wickets at the end of the first day. If 400 plus runs are added to the scoreboard, then it will be difficult for Sri Lanka to score this run in the first innings.
The England team has recovered well in this test match. There was a time when England team were 5 wickets down at 192 runs. At that moment, it was a golden opportunity for the Sri Lanka to take the remaining wickets and get a strong hold on the game but they missed this chance. Joe Root rescue the England team and he made 143 runs alone and that is the reason we see England over 350 with still three wickets in hand.
I bet on the England team as I think that they are more stronger than Sri Lanka and may remain on the upper hand for most of the sessions in this test match.



The top order of the England team did not perform well. Especially Dan Lawrence scored only 9 runs and Ollie Pope scored 1 run. Also important batsmen like Brook, Smith and Woakes also failed to play big innings. Everyone is a very important player in England's squad. And due to these batsmen not being able to bat well, the England team was under pressure at the beginning of the innings.

But Joe Root is batting responsibly. Root changed the entire scenario of the match by playing a huge innings of 143 runs / Now Atkinson is also batting well. Atkinson is unbeaten with 83 runs from 87 balls. England's collection of 367 runs after losing 7 wickets. If Atkinson stays at the crease, it will be easy for England to collect 400 runs. But England's innings probably won't last much longer if Atkinson loses his wicket.

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August 30, 2024, 10:28:03 AM
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But Joe Root is batting responsibly. Root changed the entire scenario of the match by playing a huge innings of 143 runs / Now Atkinson is also batting well. Atkinson is unbeaten with 83 runs from 87 balls. England's collection of 367 runs after losing 7 wickets. If Atkinson stays at the crease, it will be easy for England to collect 400 runs. But England's innings probably won't last much longer if Atkinson loses his wicket.

The three overs has been bowled today and the England team players are doing very well. They started the innings with the run rate of 5, that’s great. The interesting thing is that Gus Atkinson almost reached his century as he is batting on 94 right now, but the main shock is that he made it under 100 balls, he is playing like ODI match. Remember he is the bowler too. Just imagine, if he will be out in this position, how disappointing this will be for him but I hope it will not happen, his played a wonderful innings to achieve 100 runs.  Smiley

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August 30, 2024, 10:41:20 AM
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But Joe Root is batting responsibly. Root changed the entire scenario of the match by playing a huge innings of 143 runs / Now Atkinson is also batting well. Atkinson is unbeaten with 83 runs from 87 balls. England's collection of 367 runs after losing 7 wickets. If Atkinson stays at the crease, it will be easy for England to collect 400 runs. But England's innings probably won't last much longer if Atkinson loses his wicket.

The three overs has been bowled today and the England team players are doing very well. They started the innings with the run rate of 5, that’s great. The interesting thing is that Gus Atkinson almost reached his century as he is batting on 94 right now, but the main shock is that he made it under 100 balls, he is playing like ODI match. Remember he is the bowler too. Just imagine, if he will be out in this position, how disappointing this will be for him but I hope it will not happen, his played a wonderful innings to achieve 100 runs.  Smiley

Matthew Potts has gone at the wrong time, Gus Atkinson was batting with a high run rate and making partnership with Mattew Pots. Also, they both were comfortable to each other. Now I think there could be a big surprise for England’s team because a long and the main partnership has broken. If Olly Stone would be out early then maybe England would not touch to 450. Let’s see what will happen, I just hope Olly Stone would not be out early and Atkinson too. By the way, overall I think at the same time too, it is the time for the England team to declare their innings.

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August 30, 2024, 11:29:53 AM
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Pakistan vs Bangladesh 2nd Test Match

After winning the first match now Bangladesh is ready to play the second match with Pakistan. First match win was an unexpected win means 90% chances was that the match will be drawn but Bangladesh proven that they can win that kind of match too.
Well tiday is the second match and I think Bangladesh will perform well again but here we can't underestimate Pakistan too because their performance was also excellent in the first inning. So both teams will play toughly so let's wait and see who will perform well.
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Both teams were very optimistic about the second Test match between Bangladesh and Pakistan. Bangladesh's dream was to win the series by beating Pakistan in the second Test anyway. Similarly, on the other hand, the Pakistan team had a dream that after losing the first test match, they would avenge the loss against Bangladesh, i.e. they would win the second test match and level the series. But the rain has poured water between the dreams of these two teams. The first day's play of the second Test match between Bangladesh and Pakistan has been abandoned due to rain. Now it remains to be seen if it doesn't rain tomorrow and even if the outfield is ready to play, maybe this game will start.

After 21 years, Bangladesh managed to defeat Pakistan in a Test series match on Pakistani soil by a huge margin of 10 wickets. Many cricket fans are eyeing Bangladesh for such a great win against Pakistan.

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August 30, 2024, 11:34:20 AM
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Matthew Potts has gone at the wrong time, Gus Atkinson was batting with a high run rate and making partnership with Mattew Pots. Also, they both were comfortable to each other. Now I think there could be a big surprise for England’s team because a long and the main partnership has broken. If Olly Stone would be out early then maybe England would not touch to 450. Let’s see what will happen, I just hope Olly Stone would not be out early and Atkinson too. By the way, overall I think at the same time too, it is the time for the England team to declare their innings.

England team have made very good score, You do not need to worry about the England team declaration as they are all out at 427 runs.

Now they have trust their bowlers that they would not allow Sri Lanka batsmen to reach this target in both innings and win this match by an innings  Wink

However I think they have to safe play and have to finish the innings otherwise the match could be tied if the Srilanka batsmen get set. I think the mindset for the Sri Lanka batsmen is to play one innings for long, plan in every session and then it would go for a draw because Sri Lanka has understood they could not win this game for sure, there is no chance for them.

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August 30, 2024, 11:39:14 AM
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Matthew Potts has gone at the wrong time, Gus Atkinson was batting with a high run rate and making partnership with Mattew Pots. Also, they both were comfortable to each other. Now I think there could be a big surprise for England’s team because a long and the main partnership has broken. If Olly Stone would be out early then maybe England would not touch to 450. Let’s see what will happen, I just hope Olly Stone would not be out early and Atkinson too. By the way, overall I think at the same time too, it is the time for the England team to declare their innings.
England team have made very good score, You do not need to worry about the England team declaration as they are all out at 427 runs.

Now they have trust their bowlers that they would not allow Sri Lanka batsmen to reach this target in both innings and win this match by an innings  Wink

However I think they have to safe play and have to finish the innings otherwise the match could be tied if the Srilanka batsmen get set. I think the mindset for the Sri Lanka batsmen is to play one innings for long, plan in every session and then it would go for a draw because Sri Lanka has understood they could not win this game for sure, there is no chance for them.

Considering the condition of the pitch, 427 runs can be called a big collection. England's batsmen batted well. Joe Root and Atkinson's performances in particular were impressive. Atkinson's batting looks like it's an ODI format match. He returned to the dressing room with 118 runs from 115 balls. Joe Root scored 143 runs. Sri Lankan bowler Asitha Fernando bowled the best in this match. He managed to pick up 5 wickets in 24 overs. Asitha Fernando took three important wickets of Atkinson, Brook and Pope.

Sri Lanka's batting order is not weak, but the performance of the players is erratic. It is very difficult to predict which matches Sri Lankan batsmen will bat well and collect big. But Sri Lanka also has the ability to collect 400+. This is why England's bowlers should continue to try to bowl well from the beginning of the innings. If not, England will lose dominance in the match.

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August 30, 2024, 12:49:15 PM
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At the end of the first day, the England team managed to collect 358 runs. Considering the pitch, it can be called a large collection. Because the average run of this pitch in the first innings is 309. England has already collected 358 runs with the loss of 7 wickets. So there is a chance for England to collect 400+ in the first innings.

Sri Lanka won the toss and elected to field. Although the bowlers were able to bowl well enough at the beginning of the innings, the Sri Lankan bowlers did not do well against Joe Root. ROOT collected 143 runs in the first innings. Also, Atkinson is still at the crease with 74 runs from 81 balls. Matthew Potts also scored 20 runs. England may be able to collect 420-430 runs in their first innings.
England team scored more than our prediction and that was their best performance I think they will easily cross 450 runs if their players stay on the wicket but it seems too difficult because they are short of wickets, they already lost 7 wickets and their player Atkinson played like he is on T20 match hah common buddy who can do 74 runs on 81 balls in a test match, he is near to the century but they way he is playing makes it difficult to complete his century in this match. If he completes his century then they can easily cross 450 targets and they will give a target near to it but here the question is whether the Srilankan batsman has the potential to chase that target, their bowlers did good bowling, and they out many players with a little score but what their batsmen can win the match?
Prophecy is just a lie and they do it to comfort themselves.  The essence has to be what the team has to perform.  It has both good and bad performance.  And the way he estimated his target would have been underestimated.  Because England sometimes perform badly but the real situation is their strong team.  Because they improve themselves while playing the game.  And his goal has been good in this match too.  Yes, if they made so many runs, it would have been an advantage for Sun, but they showed the performance they could have seen.  Now the game and the win is in the hands of their bowlers whether they pressurize wickets and stop runs or not.  If they succeed in this, then they have won.  Currently, Sri Lanka is not looking good.  Because 2 wickets have been lost in 9 overs and 32 runs have been scored. And if the bowlers of England work a little more, they can win this match after a few overs.

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August 30, 2024, 01:06:54 PM
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After losing early wickets a good back from English batters and posted a good total which is always difficult for Srilanka to achieve it and then posted a lead. Lets hope for the best that at day 2 Srilanka raps up the things ASAP.

Well, Sri Lanka had the match perfectly in their grasp. But then they wasted the opportunity. When Chris Woakes got out, England was struggling at 216/6. But then the partnership between Joe Root and Gus Atkinson rescued them. And they should have cleaned up the tail at least once Joe Root got out. But then Matthew Potts joined Atkinson and continued to frustrate the Lankans. There is a good chance that England will get to a total of 400-450. And that will make sure that the Lankans lose this match as well.
Yes, In first innings England made 427 runs brilliant innings played by Joe Root and Gus Atkinson both players made centuries and help their team to cross the line of four hundred 143 runs innings played by joe root while Gus Atkinson scored 118 runs from Sri lanka side Asitha Fernando takes five wickets while Milan Rathnayake and Lahiru Kumara took two two wickets. Sri lanka team is on the way to chase the given total they scored 32 runs with loss of 2 wickets Excellent bowling by England team they put pressure on sri lanka team from the start of the inning Olly Stone and Chris Woakes takes 1, 1 wickets Sri lanka team required 395 runs to level the score

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August 30, 2024, 01:44:38 PM
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But Joe Root is batting responsibly. Root changed the entire scenario of the match by playing a huge innings of 143 runs / Now Atkinson is also batting well. Atkinson is unbeaten with 83 runs from 87 balls. England's collection of 367 runs after losing 7 wickets. If Atkinson stays at the crease, it will be easy for England to collect 400 runs. But England's innings probably won't last much longer if Atkinson loses his wicket.
The three overs has been bowled today and the England team players are doing very well. They started the innings with the run rate of 5, that’s great. The interesting thing is that Gus Atkinson almost reached his century as he is batting on 94 right now, but the main shock is that he made it under 100 balls, he is playing like ODI match. Remember he is the bowler too. Just imagine, if he will be out in this position, how disappointing this will be for him but I hope it will not happen, his played a wonderful innings to achieve 100 runs.  Smiley

Atkinson batted very aggressively on day two. His aim was to score 400+, not to stay at the crease for long. He did so because England did not want to draw the match. They want to win. This is why England batted at a decent strike rate on the second day. If Atkinson had batted carefully, England would probably have been able to muster up to 450.



I doubt Sri Lanka will be able to score even 200 runs. Sri Lanka is losing wickets very fast. They lost 5 experienced batsmen to collect only 83 runs. Dhananjaya de Silva failed to score any runs. Mathews was dismissed for 22 runs. The two openers managed to collect only 7 runs. Now there are only Mendis and Chandimal as experienced batsmen at the crease. If these two wickets are lost, Sri Lanka will lose the remaining wickets very quickly. Olly Stone and Matthew Potts picked up two wickets each. The match is completely under England's control. It is likely that the Sri Lankan team will lose all their wickets in the second session.

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August 30, 2024, 02:10:17 PM
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England finished the second day with 427 runs, the score England made was enough for them to win. But on the second day the Sri Lankan team came out to meet the target and they lost wickets very quickly. England team's bowling performance in today's match is outstanding due to which they put Sri Lanka under a lot of pressure and Sri Lanka team has already lost six wickets. They have had a very poor batting performance since the beginning of the game, however their batting with this disappointment will definitely not reach the match winning level. Sri Lanka have scored 109 runs to meet their target against England in today's match and have lost six wickets.

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