Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[JSRAW]

And if you really want to dig some Spicy content then look at India vs Australia 2008 series. Umpiring was pure Gold for both sides

Isn't it the series in Australia? India then refused to play the next test or something if they do not change the umpires and they had to change them. This was an embarrassment for World cricket.

Yeah, It was ugly series for many reasons.

1. Literally shit umpiring, ( recent Ben stokes controversy is cute)
2. Players refused to walk out even edging the ball in slips against spinners.
3. Countless amount of Sledging on personal level, followed by Famous Monkey Gate Saga ( its actually very funny story ) then Ban on Harbhajan.
4. Indian Captain refused to shake hands with the umpires which triggered OZ's tabloid
5. Then in the end Threat of leaving series.
  

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[Little Mouse]

Not sure about India but in the World cup it was fairly clear that most of the time the wrong decisions were favoring England.

Sometimes, it also goes in favor of India. You might have remembered the 2015 world cup match between Bangladesh and India, Mahmudullah hit the ball which was taken in the boundary, unfortunately, the player who caught has touched the boundary line but he was given out.
Rohit got out but umpire called "No ball" which was not a no-ball at all.
That's how India win that match  

[JSRAW]

Not sure about India but in the World cup it was fairly clear that most of the time the wrong decisions were favoring England.

Sometimes, it also goes in favor of India. You might have remembered the 2015 world cup match between Bangladesh and India, Mahmudullah hit the ball which was taken in the boundary, unfortunately, the player who caught has touched the boundary line but he was given out.
Rohit got out but umpire called "No ball" which was not a no-ball at all.
That's how India win that match  

I already mentioned that and yeah it was very close match , Bangladesh lost by little margin, Just 109 runs 

But if we go into details then it was not only one factor of losing match. Umesh Yadav and Shami deserves more credit when they wrapped up Bangladesh Top order result Ban lost the match and didn't even crossed the 200.

[AB de Royse777]

Okay I see the fans for their own country (Little Mouse and JSRAW) are in battle :-P

To be honest, umpires can make mistakes and we need to accept it but when things are obvious that these are not mistakes then it turns out bad and it's corruption. The Australia vs India series is a very good example of corruption.

Also the hassle they gave Muthia Muralidharan about his bowling action was also corruption.

[eaLiTy]

What is wrong with ICC? They act so gullible sometimes. Stokes is a great player, but calling him the greatest of all time is pathetic and an insult to all the legends. Whoever is handling their twitter account is seriously dumb for posting such bullshit.

It is evident that someone from England is handling the twitter account  , they tied the world cup but gave that to England and it is the greatest cricketing achievement they had and now in this series after folding to a total of just 67 runs and then went on to chase a total of 359 runs in the final innings is incredible and these two feats by Ben Stokes makes him the greatest contributor in world event when it mattered for England. To call someone the greatest of all time he needs to prove this time and again but the innings he played in both instances are incredible and one of the best i have seen in a very long time.

[Little Mouse]

I already mentioned that and yeah it was very close match , Bangladesh lost by little margin, Just 109 runs  

But if we go into details then it was not only one factor of losing match. Umesh Yadav and Shami deserves more credit when they wrapped up Bangladesh Top order result Ban lost the match and didn't even crossed the 200.

The margin would have changed or even the result. Rohit was probably around 80 when he was given not out by the umpire. On the other hand, Mahmudullah was in good form in that world cup, 2 centuries in the 2015 world cup.
One more questionable decision from the same match was Raina's not given lbw which wasn't that much accurate. However, don't you think a clear picture of the wrong decision can change the mind set up of a team?
Umesh and Shami had done great but the questionable decision put much effect in the match.

To be honest, umpires can make mistakes and we need to accept it but when things are obvious that these are not mistakes then it turns out bad and it's corruption. The Australia vs India series is a very good example of corruption.

Rohit's NO BALL out was a clear corruption, it was a high no-ball which is easily detectable.

By the way, it was Mr. Aleem dar.

[AB de Royse777]

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It is evident that someone from England is handling the twitter account  ,

Very possible and let's not forget English media too. They like to paint colors even in the dust and make it a big agenda :-D  

[JSRAW]

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Also the hassle they gave Muthia Muralidharan about his bowling action was also corruption.

It was nightmare for Murli, in field players were literally cursing him " Black Cunt" and few spectators joined as well in this shit when they walked out. i don't remember who was the Umpire but i remember watching interviews of some Australian legends and according to them Umpire's call was purely inspired with his own prejudice.

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The margin would have changed or even the result.

Okay i agree, minus 100 runs. 50 from Rohit and 50 from Raina. India won by 9 runs happy now bro

[Haunebu]

To call someone the greatest of all time he needs to prove this time and again but the innings he played in both instances are incredible and one of the best i have seen in a very long time.

This is why I mentioned that Stokes is one of the best at the moment, but there are so many epic cricketers like him currently like Steve Smith and Virat Kohli who are leagues away from him in comparison.

Stokes still has a long way to go to establish himself as a legend in the world of Cricket, but he is getting there step by step. He is providing terrific entertainment value currently though he still needs to be more consistent.

[Little Mouse]

Okay i agree, minus 100 runs. 50 from Rohit and 50 from Raina. India won by 9 runs happy now bro

Where's the calculation which Mahmudullah can score wh was given a wrong out? Come on bro. It's not about win or loss. It's about either poor decision or corruption which is likely to be true in that match.

[AB de Royse777]

It was nightmare for Murli, in field players were literally cursing him " Black Cunt" and few spectators joined as well in this shit when they walked out. i don't remember who was the Umpire but i remember watching interviews of some Australian legends and according to them Umpire's call was purely inspired with his own prejudice.

Australian umpire Ross Emerson. Is this what you are talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8z_9fI3q2M

This is why I mentioned that Stokes is one of the best at the moment, but there are so many epic cricketers like him currently like Steve Smith and Virat Kohli who are leagues away from in comparison.

Correct, no doubt Stokes is one of the best of this modern cricket but telling him all time best is very wrong.

Stokes still has a long way to go to establish himself as a legend in the world of Cricket, but he is getting there step by step. He is providing terrific entertainment value currently though he still needs to be more consistent.

Stokes has better future awaiting and if he continue like this then some day in the future we may tell him one of the all timer but surely not yet.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

4th Test is 4th - 8th September so still a while for players to recover from that epic 3rd Test. AUS can guarantee that they keep the Ashes if they win so ENG are going to have to be really up for it again.

[AB de Royse777]

4th Test is 4th - 8th September so still a while for players to recover from that epic 3rd Test. AUS can guarantee that they keep the Ashes if they win so ENG are going to have to be really up for it again.

Aham! LFC_Bitcoin!! Hey bud good to see you here :-)

Just a side note: We are not talking against England :-P We are talking about the sports - cricket.

Edit: Forgot to welcome you in this small community. Welcome bud, good to see your post here.

[JSRAW]

4th Test is 4th - 8th September so still a while for players to recover from that epic 3rd Test. AUS can guarantee that they keep the Ashes if they win so ENG are going to have to be really up for it again.

Welcome Bro

Aussie going to retain The Ashes because chances are Joel Wilson not going to play for England this time . England need to keep up their game and not relaying on Ben Stokes alone. More importantly Joe Root need to play Captain's inning in next game, this dude has every capability to become a Great but his conversion rate of 100s sucks really bad.

Australian umpire Ross Emerson. Is this what you are talking about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8z_9fI3q2M

No, Radio talk.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I don't agree with users claiming Ben Stokes as one of the best players in the world right now. IMO, he is a very over-rated player and he is incapable of single-handedly leading his team to victory. On the other hand, Steve Smith and Virat Kohli have led their team to victories all by themselves several times. Stokes has done that on a few occasions, but he is miles behind Smith / Kohli.

[Indymoney]

I don't agree with users claiming Ben Stokes as one of the best players in the world right now. IMO, he is a very over-rated player and he is incapable of single-handedly leading his team to victory. On the other hand, Steve Smith and Virat Kohli have led their team to victories all by themselves several times. Stokes has done that on a few occasions, but he is miles behind Smith / Kohli.

No one comparing Stokes with Smith/Kohli as these both are typical batsmen and third one is in all-rounders category never any one compare Stokes with these and stokes time is now starting as he has some good innings we can say bright future is waiting for this great all rounder.   

[onrise]

I don't agree with users claiming Ben Stokes as one of the best players in the world right now. IMO, he is a very over-rated player and he is incapable of single-handedly leading his team to victory. On the other hand, Steve Smith and Virat Kohli have led their team to victories all by themselves several times. Stokes has done that on a few occasions, but he is miles behind Smith / Kohli.

I thing he is a good all rounder player at the moment considering the past few innings he has played and has definately desreved to fall in that category. Though not be the best but surely he can be considered in that zone as he has delivered under tremendous pressure which not every can play that sort of innings and bowl as well .

[Raja_MBZ]

4th Test is 4th - 8th September so still a while for players to recover from that epic 3rd Test. AUS can guarantee that they keep the Ashes if they win so ENG are going to have to be really up for it again.

Wow, LFC watching the cricket? Looks like that final of the World Cup succeeded in bringing new people close to the sport!

[bryant.coleman]

4th Test is 4th - 8th September so still a while for players to recover from that epic 3rd Test. AUS can guarantee that they keep the Ashes if they win so ENG are going to have to be really up for it again.

Nothing can be said with surety on where the Ashes will go on from here. We have some excited and unexpected cricket all around and both of the teams have not shown a complete dominance over the other. So who ever plays better will win the next two tests but excitement is awaiting for us in these two remaining matches.

Right now Australia is up 2-1, but the momentum is with England after their controversial win during the third match. I want Australia to win the series, but they are making bad decisions in selection which has definitely come back to bite them. One thing is common with all the three matches that were completed till now. In all the matches, the English lower order was able to score crucial runs (especially against spin bowling). And this is why I have always said that they are committing a grave mistake by dropping Mitchell Starc. Nathan Lyon is useless against the lower order batsmen and they can't depend on just two bowlers (Hazlewood and Cummins). The selection for the third match was weird. Pattinson was picked ahead of Starc and even now I can't understand the logic behind that decision.

[Juggy777]

4th Test is 4th - 8th September so still a while for players to recover from that epic 3rd Test. AUS can guarantee that they keep the Ashes if they win so ENG are going to have to be really up for it again.

Wow, LFC watching the cricket? Looks like that final of the World Cup succeeded in bringing new people close to the sport!

@Raja_MBZ even I’m surprised to see him here as I always find him discussing about premier league, and posting photos from match day welcome here your insights will make this thread even more engaging. Australia are starting to get unpredictable and sloppy, I cannot get over the fact that Tim choosed a DRS appeal when the ball was clearly going leg side and that caused Australia the match. Also did anyone here see the banter between Warne and Prior it was funny, and if England wins it I’m expecting Prior to once again target Warne and Lyon.

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