Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[eaLiTy]

I think everyone here is disappointed by Afghanistan’s batting collapse, as all their batman played impatiently and got out quickly. West Indies should be able to wrap up this match tomorrow, unless Afghanistan tail order batman’s decides to offer some resistance. This match only highlights one thing that Afghanistan isn’t ready for test cricket, and they need to focus on building a strong team for this format.

The match will be over by morning session and i was not expecting anything as Afghanistan does have a weak batting line up and none of the players are consistent to score runs and that is the biggest disadvantage but they have good bowlers and they could change the match in any moment but for that to happen the batsman need to score some runs to have some competitive match.

[JSRAW]

I think everyone here is disappointed by Afghanistan’s batting collapse, as all their batman played impatiently and got out quickly. West Indies should be able to wrap up this match tomorrow, unless Afghanistan tail order batman’s decides to offer some resistance. This match only highlights one thing that Afghanistan isn’t ready for test cricket, and they need to focus on building a strong team for this format.

The match will be over by morning session and i was not expecting anything as Afghanistan does have a weak batting line up and none of the players are consistent to score runs and that is the biggest disadvantage but they have good bowlers and they could change the match in any moment but for that to happen the batsman need to score some runs to have some competitive match.

All the bashing aside i think we all should cut some slack to Afghan players, Test format is tough and they need time to build their team. we shouldn't expect much in regards of competition as long as they are improving themselves, improvement comes with experience. they are still new so give them decade or so, i am sure they will come around same goes to Ireland.

List of Test playing nations. check the debut year and their first win in the test format 

1. Australia : Test Debut in 1877 , Won in first match.
2. England :  Test Debut 1877 , Won in same year on their 2nd match.
3. South Africa : Test Debut in 1889, First win came in 1906 after 11 test.
4. West Indies: Test Debut in 1928, First win in 1930 after 5th test Match
5. New Zealand: Test Debut in 1930, First Test win in 1956 after 44 match  They are Winners - 26 Years
6.India : Test Debut in 1932 , First Test win came in 1952 on their 25th match.
7. Sri Lanka: Test Debut in1982, First Win in 1985 after 13 test match.
8.Pakistan: Test debut in 1952, won in same year on their 2nd match.
9. Bangladesh : Test Debut in 2000, Won first game in 2005 after 34 match.

[Indymoney]

As a result, talented players from the smaller boards such as South Africa, West Indies, Ireland and Pakistan started dumping their own associations to play for the big three teams (+ New Zealand). And a decade later, we are left with three major cricketing nations and 9 test playing minnows.

If the players find it attractive to migrate to other countries and if there is a less talent pool then they will find opportunities to play in the team, in the past Australia was dominating the sports and now England and India have risen their playing standards and so is the reason there is a competition and for any sport to become successful you need people spending money to watch the sport and if that is not happening how can they expect to get more payment.

Some of the West Indian players (Sunil Narine, Kieron Pollard, Andre Russell.etc) are among the most paid cricket players in the world. But the problem is that these players get most of their salaries from the T20 franchises and not from the cricket boards. In football also we can witness the same situation, but there international matches have lost all the relevance. It is the football clubs which reign supreme in football. Do we want such a situation with cricket as well? T20 format has given too much power to the franchises.

Now we can say ICC going to do some restrictions about T20 Leagues which could be helpful and if these done with positive attitude then surely many small countries going to have benifit from them for test level courtries good those have some good and strong domestic system and countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan have serious security issues which are not helping them and just because of this they are not good enough but Afghanistan could be very good and better then Sri Lanka and Bangladesh if they suceeded to have good domestic system for growing players for this level.

[ene1980]

All the bashing aside i think we all should cut some slack to Afghan players, Test format is tough and they need time to build their team. we shouldn't expect much in regards of competition as long as they are improving themselves, improvement comes with experience. they are still new so give them decade or so, i am sure they will come around same goes to Ireland.

It is really wonderful to see a new team coming up the ranks pretty fast and they were really a war torn country and they are having a cricket team is itself impressive, none of the teams were world beaters when they came to cricket and that is a good point and with time they will be able to develop young talents and ICC will be providing funds to improve their infrastructure and in the next ten years we will see a much improved team if they are able to continue the same progress.

[JSRAW]

Anyone watching NZ vs Eng ?

England won the toss and opt to bowl, some interesting selection from England side they are playing without any specialist spinner, guess we can witness Joe root is in action as part time bowler, other than that 5 Seamer in the squad.

Point table : Heads up, this series is not part of World Test Championship. No points for winners in this series.

They are lucky this series is not related to World Test Championship.

2 wickets down, another failure for Williamson 

[Sithara007]

Now we can say ICC going to do some restrictions about T20 Leagues which could be helpful and if these done with positive attitude then surely many small countries going to have benifit from them for test level courtries good those have some good and strong domestic system and countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan have serious security issues which are not helping them and just because of this they are not good enough but Afghanistan could be very good and better then Sri Lanka and Bangladesh if they suceeded to have good domestic system for growing players for this level.

Restricting T20 leagues will be a very stupid move and I hope the ICC will stay away from such measures. Earlier there were attempts to limit players to a maximum of 2 or 3 different leagues per year, but this step never realized due to the opposition from the payers. The players are benefiting from it in the form of increased salaries, and it will be unfair for the ICC to get involved.

And after a bit of struggle, now it looks as if the New Zealand innings has been stabilized. They are 123/2, and it marks a remarkable recovery from the score of 39/2. The partnership between Tom Latham and Ross Taylor is inching towards the century mark, and once again the most lethal English bowler (Jofra Archer) has failed to make an impression in this match.

[ene1980]

Anyone watching NZ vs Eng ?
England won the toss and opt to bowl, some interesting selection from England side they are playing without any specialist spinner, guess we can witness Joe root is in action as part time bowler, other than that 5 Seamer in the squad.

New Zealand is playing well and now it is the turn of Latham as he scored a century and hopefully he will convert this to a big one and i wish someone could give him company on the other end a try to build a huge partnership in the mean time, rain has halted the match and i am going with New Zealand to win the match as they are always a threat in Test matches in their home country.

Point table : Heads up, this series is not part of World Test Championship. No points for winners in this series.

All series should be under the championships, why are they cherry picking.

[akhjob]

Rain Stops Play

NZ 173/3. 4 days remaining weather report looks rainy and cloudy  



@JSRAW Can I dream of a draw  

[onrise]

2nd Test between OZ and Pak have started and OZ after winning the toss have elected to bat and had lost 1st wicket quickly of Burn. Warner as usual is playing well and OZ are now 64/1. Pakistan is already 1-0 behind in this series and would like to win this to comeback.

[JSRAW]

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Point table : Heads up, this series is not part of World Test Championship. No points for winners in this series.

All series should be under the championships, why are they cherry picking.

As far as my knowledge this series was schedule way before Test Championship came into the play. under WTC every team needs to play 6 series (3 away and 3 home) including this series means England would have played extra away series.

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@JSRAW Can I dream of a draw  

You should actually  pitch is not minefield at least not today so rain can be decider if it pops up again.

[Haunebu]

Point table : Heads up, this series is not part of World Test Championship. No points for winners in this series.

They are lucky this series is not related to World Test Championship.

Agreed. England are way too lucky this year while NZ is way too unlucky this year. NZ are proving why they are a force to be reckoned with in tests currently especially after getting beaten by inches through out this year by England.

Rain Stops Play

Looks like luck is favoring you at the moment. At the rate at which things are going, draw seems to be the likely outcome unless NZ decimates the England batting lineup which is completely possible considering their firepower at the moment.

[ene1980]

As far as my knowledge this series was schedule way before Test Championship came into the play. under WTC every team needs to play 6 series (3 away and 3 home) including this series means England would have played extra away series.

May be that is the case, they scheduled the tournament before the introduction of Test championship, 36 overs lost today in the match due to rain and if the rain continue to disrupt then the match will be a draw.
Australia is batting really well and David Warner and Marnus Labuschagne looking for another century and Pakistan will keep on bowling until the Australian captain decide to declare  .

[JSRAW]

Point table : Heads up, this series is not part of World Test Championship. No points for winners in this series.

They are lucky this series is not related to World Test Championship.

Agreed. England are way too lucky this year while NZ is way too unlucky this year. NZ are proving why they are a force to be reckoned with in tests currently especially after getting beaten by inches through out this year by England.

They are number 2 in the test for a reason and i am looking forward to India tour of NZ. Kiwis fast bowlers against indian best Batsman Kohli and Indian fast bowlers against Kiwi best batsman Williamson -he's not in touch for quite sometimes- but we can still expect good competition.

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Australia is batting really well and David Warner and Marnus Labuschagne looking for another century and Pakistan will keep on bowling until the Australian captain decide to declare  .

True, They should easily reach 450 score. Yasir shah and Musa taking good beating from OZ so far.

[Haunebu]

They are number 2 in the test for a reason and i am looking forward to India tour of NZ. Kiwis fast bowlers against indian best Batsman Kohli and Indian fast bowlers against Kiwi best batsman Williamson -he's not in touch for quite sometimes- but we can still expect good competition.

Agreed. New Zealand will have the edge due to their home ground advantage and their win against England recently, but India seems to be in another league at the moment(Especially if Bumrah is back in the squad) which is why this will be an exciting series.

Australia is batting really well and David Warner and Marnus Labuschagne looking for another century and Pakistan will keep on bowling until the Australian captain decide to declare  .

Another century by Warner while Marnus is looking to score another one himself pretty soon. Shaheen is only one that has impressed so far. At this stage, I feel like there is absolutely no hope left for Pakistan in this series and this could end in a whitewash.

[7788bitcoin]

Another century by Warner while Marnus is looking to score another one himself pretty soon. Shaheen is only one that has impressed so far. At this stage, I feel like there is absolutely no hope left for Pakistan in this series and this could end in a whitewash.

Joe Burns missed his opportunity to improve his average while Warner is scoring runs in tons and Labuschagne is ten short of a century and he will be scoring a century and the sad part is that Steve Smith did not have a role in this series as he is not getting any opportunity to bat and the team is in strong position throughout the series and the whitewash in inevitable.

[JSRAW]

Holy moly Pakistani bowler took a quite a beating from Warner and Marnus today. 4.14 runs per over tells you complete story of day 1st.

Its quite funny that no one is talking about how dead this pitch is for bowler on very first day. but everyone likes to pull out their guns when something similar happens in the Indian subcontinent. - bunch of hypocrites IMO-

[Indymoney]

Holy moly Pakistani bowler took a quite a beating from Warner and Marnus today. 4.14 runs per over tells you complete story of day 1st.

Its quite funny that no one is talking about how dead this pitch is for bowler on very first day. but everyone likes to pull out their guns when something similar happens in the Indian subcontinent. - bunch of hypocrites IMO-

I agreed with you they cryed only when this happen in Sub-Continent but as this happen in Australia or England no one ever cry as they have most hypocrite experts and media which is hurting beauty of this Gentlemen game.

[ene1980]

Holy moly Pakistani bowler took a quite a beating from Warner and Marnus today. 4.14 runs per over tells you complete story of day 1st.
Its quite funny that no one is talking about how dead this pitch is for bowler on very first day. but everyone likes to pull out their guns when something similar happens in the Indian subcontinent. - bunch of hypocrites IMO-

When Australia bowls it will behave like a bowling pitch and that is the irony, yes the pitch is not that great and the batsman are playing fearlessly, Indian wickets are better now as the standard of fast bowling increased in recent times and so we are seeing fast bowlers dominating the matches and the pitches that were known to be green turfs turned into batting paradise  .

[pakhitheboss]

Holy moly Pakistani bowler took a quite a beating from Warner and Marnus today. 4.14 runs per over tells you complete story of day 1st.

Its quite funny that no one is talking about how dead this pitch is for bowler on very first day. but everyone likes to pull out their guns when something similar happens in the Indian subcontinent. - bunch of hypocrites IMO-

I agreed with you they cryed only when this happen in Sub-Continent but as this happen in Australia or England no one ever cry as they have most hypocrite experts and media which is hurting beauty of this Gentlemen game.

The problem with teams from subcontinent is that they made very polite. I have heard very few teams questioning the pitch when they made playing outside. They should also start asking such question, then only such issues can be stopped

[7788bitcoin]

The problem with teams from subcontinent is that they made very polite. I have heard very few teams questioning the pitch when they made playing outside. They should also start asking such question, then only such issues can be stopped

How you can question a pitch the home country is making, the visitors usually have to play in a pitch the home board is presented and there is no questions asked as far as i know, they can only question if the pitch will not sustain the entire match and there is no specific rules and regulations regarding that, if Australia made a batting friendly wicket then Pakistan can score runs and end up in a draw and lets see how the match will end .