Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[onrise]

^ TBH Eng vs Aus rivalry looks cute to me when i compare this with Ind vs Pak. for ex if England lose against Australia or vice versa then team or fans will get together have a beer and shrug their shoulder but that's not the case with India or pakistan.

About D/N test. don't consider this as a perfect solution but one of the important piece of big puzzle. its important to have all pieces together otherwise..... meh.

I agree that England and Oz fans can get along well and have a great time as well outside the stadium . This is not the case with India vs Pak audiences . And also it’s a nice idea when the viewership and audiences are declining you will have to make changes in test cricket .

[Vishnu.Reang]

I agree that England and Oz fans can get along well and have a great time as well outside the stadium . This is not the case with India vs Pak audiences . And also it’s a nice idea when the viewership and audiences are declining you will have to make changes in test cricket .

India and Pakistan fought several wars against each other, in which hundreds of thousands of people died. There is a political enmity which overshadows the competition in sports. On the other hand, there is no such political enmity between Australia and England. For those who are unaware, the Queen of England is the Queen of Australia as well.

[Haunebu]

The T20 format is entertaining but you cannot find real cricket being played because all the advantage goes to the batsman with small grounds and rules favoring the batsman.

Real cricket? Test match Cricket is the toughest format and I agree with this, but calling the T-20 format fake just because the advantage is handed to the batsmen is silly and something I don't agree with at all.

As time passes, batsmen are gaining more advantages over bowlers thanks to improved strike rate etc across all formats(Not just T-20), but what matters even more is the entertainment value which is the reason why this format generates insane revenue when compared to the rest.

[TalkStar]

The ICC/BCCI are still ignoring the core issue. What the audience want is shorter matches with more action. Not many people can afford to stay away from work for 5 days consecutively in the modern world. The traditionalists still want more and more test matches, but financially it makes little sense. There is no point in having these matches just to uphold traditions.

Its hard to disagree with you and actually its happening. In modern world people love to watch short time matches and its because everyone have enough amount of workload. Its pretty much hard to manage 5 days for watching an test match where 5 days is kinda enough to make a family trip . Although test cricket is losing its popularity day by day but there is no way to deny that its an important part of cricket. Maybe oneday it will be stored in the museum but implementing the idea of night test matches gonna bring some extra crowd. 

[Sithara007]

Its hard to disagree with you and actually its happening. In modern world people love to watch short time matches and its because everyone have enough amount of workload. Its pretty much hard to manage 5 days for watching an test match where 5 days is kinda enough to make a family trip . Although test cricket is losing its popularity day by day but there is no way to deny that its an important part of cricket. Maybe oneday it will be stored in the museum but implementing the idea of night test matches gonna bring some extra crowd.  

I think that very few people watch entire test matches nowadays. Most of us switch on the TV once in a while to check the scores and may be to watch half an hour or so of play while having tea. I am someone who work 5 days a week. Yesterday I watched the T20 match between Namibia and Papua New Guinea, because the timing was suitable for me (9pm - 12:30 am), and the duration was short. Today is holiday for me, and I am planning to watch the two T20 matches (final between Netherlands and PNG, and the 3rd place match). If a test match was ongoing today, then I would have skipped it.

The ICC needs to understand that T20 is a format that is more suitable to the modern lifestyle. Ideally they should increase the number of the T20 matches and decrease the number of ODIs and tests. What is the point in having each country play 8-10 tests every year? IMO, this number should be reduced to 3-4 matches per year. And one thing to remember here is that a T20 match brings in almost the equivalent amount of revenue when compared to a test match.

Cricket needs to move on. Clinging on to the traditions won't work.

[JSRAW]

One good news for Test Cricket fans and Virat. Bumrah recovering well and he should be available against the Aussie team, If everything goes okay in next few month then even New Zealand series (away tour for India) looks good in presence of Bumrah.

Jasprit Bumrah recovering well, should be back for Australia

[bryant.coleman]

One good news for Test Cricket fans and Virat. Bumrah recovering well and he should be available against the Aussie team, If everything goes okay in next few month then even New Zealand series (away tour for India) looks good in presence of Bumrah.

Jasprit Bumrah recovering well, should be back for Australia

As per the report, he should be ready by January 2020. Stress fracture is always a huge problem with today's pace bowlers. A number of them had their career ended due to this. Olly Stone of England is a perfect example. His career was effectively ended by a stress fracture on the lower back. Even earlier, bowlers such as Dennis Lillee faced this issue. He had to cut down on his pace to manage it.

[JSRAW]

^^ Never heard of Olly stone but heard about Dennis Lilly's incident from Micheal holding commentary. he made some remarks on Bumrah's action when he made his test debut against the South Africa last year.

Anyways.. We have good amount of Test Cricket in next couple of weeks.
Ind vs Ban
Aus vs Pak
Nz vs Eng

[AB de Royse777]

Anyways.. We have good amount of Test Cricket in next couple of weeks.
Ind vs Ban
Aus vs Pak
Nz vs Eng

And we have a mutual betting pool for NZ vs Eng 1st Test. I am aiming to continue this pool for this entire series coz I expect this will be a very good and unpredictable series.

Talking about the other two series, I think they won't be much excited and the result is already predictable: Ind and Aus will win the series easily.

Anyway, here is the topic for pool activity: Cricket 🏏 Mutual betting discussion and active betting pools 🏆

@JSRAW, I hope you noticed the 0.0001BTC you have for this pool :-P

[Juggy777]

Anyways.. We have good amount of Test Cricket in next couple of weeks.
Ind vs Ban
Aus vs Pak
Nz vs Eng

India vs Bangladesh will be a one sided contest as India will be winning because of their spin friendly pitches, hence there’s not much to expect from this series. Australia is definitely the superior side in comparison to Pakistan, but considering how volatile Pakistan players can be I feel it’ll an entertaining series. New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I’ll yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.

[AB de Royse777]

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New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I’ll yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.

Well don't forget that New Zealand is playing this series in their own grounds so for England it might not be that easy. Besides, as a test team New Zealand is always a good one. I am expecting an exciting series like the last Ashes.

[eaLiTy]

India vs Bangladesh will be a one sided contest as India will be winning because of their spin friendly pitches, hence there’s not much to expect from this series. Australia is definitely the superior side in comparison to Pakistan, but considering how volatile Pakistan players can be I feel it’ll an entertaining series. New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I’ll yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.

India does have world class fast bowlers in Jasprit Bumrah and Mohammed Shami and there are other fast bowlers and Bangladesh will not stand a chance and they have world class spinners too and they do not necessarily make spin friendly wicket to win Test matches. Australia winning the series and expecting a white wash but the interesting match is between New Zealand and England, England won the T20 series but in Test match they do not have a great team.

[JSRAW]

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Anyway, here is the topic for pool activity: Cricket 🏏 Mutual betting discussion and active betting pools 🏆

@JSRAW, I hope you noticed the 0.0001BTC you have for this pool :-P

Yeah bro, i saw that. we have almost 10 days so not in rush atm

India vs Bangladesh will be a one sided contest as India will be winning because of their spin friendly pitches, hence there’s not much to expect from this series. Australia is definitely the superior side in comparison to Pakistan, but considering how volatile Pakistan players can be I feel it’ll an entertaining series. New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I’ll yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.

Agree with you on "one sided contest" but not because of spin friendly pitches. Bangladesh is no match when comparing to India in the Red ball cricket. i would be very surprise if they fight. Although i am expecting good contest in the Eden garden's (2nd match) because its D/N game and both team are new in this.

I was watching Warm up game of Pak vs Aus A and Pakistan batsmen are killing it there. its Pink ball Match (D/N) and sample size is very small on this format for every bowler/batsmen and i don't know how Pink ball works in general so not sure about anything. otherwise Australia can beat Pakistan any day in the Test Match.

NZ vs ENG should be a good contest, no doubt.

[AB de Royse777]

India vs Bangladesh will be a one sided contest as India will be winning because of their spin friendly pitches, hence there’s not much to expect from this series. Australia is definitely the superior side in comparison to Pakistan, but considering how volatile Pakistan players can be I feel it’ll an entertaining series. New Zealand vs England will be a keenly fought contest, but I’ll yet expect England to defeat New Zealand and win the series.

Agree with you on "one sided contest" but not because of spin friendly pitches. Bangladesh is no match when comparing to India in the Red ball cricket. i would be very surprise if they fight. Although i am expecting good contest in the Eden garden's (2nd match) because its D/N game and both team are new in this.

I was watching Warm up game of Pak vs Aus A and Pakistan batsmen are killing it there. its Pink ball Match (D/N) and sample size is very small on this format for every bowler/batsmen and i don't know how Pink ball works in general so not sure about anything. otherwise Australia can beat Pakistan any day in the Test Match.

NZ vs ENG should be a good contest, no doubt.

"one sided contest"

Talking about this - I am thinking to do something here so that we feel the excitements. In the bookies they do not allow multibet in a match, I mean you can not select more than one market from a match in a multi bet slip.

How about in Pak vs Aus and Ind vs Ban match I come up with some selective markets and allow you lot to place your bets and if you win then you will get Nx times?

Like say for example in the Ind vs Bang match only in the first Test:

Kohli to score over under x runs in the first innings
Agarwal to score over under x runs in the first innings
How many innings we will have in the 1st test: over under 3.5
Imrul Kayes to score over under x runs in the first innings
Mustafizur Rahman to take over under x wickets in the first innings
Ishant to take over under x wickets in the 2nd innings

Pick 5 from the list and place a small amount of bet in that. If you get all correct of your selection then you get Nx of the return.

What do you think? I think this will make the test matches exciting.

Give me your feedback.

[Clement Kaliyar]

What do you think? I think this will make the test matches exciting.
Give me your feedback.

If you can come up with those option then it will be interesting and i will be joining the pool as well, i have seen your pool earlier but i did not understand the idea of betting pool, what will be the odds we will be getting and so on, sorry if it is a novice question but in the last India Bangladesh match the odds were really low for India and hence i did not participate in the betting pool.

[AB de Royse777]

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If you can come up with those option then it will be interesting and i will be joining the pool as well, i have seen your pool earlier but i did not understand the idea of betting pool, what will be the odds we will be getting and so on, sorry if it is a novice question but in the last India Bangladesh match the odds were really low for India and hence i did not participate in the betting pool.

Here is a short explanation for you :

Pool betting, or more commonly known as pari-mutuel betting, refers to a popular and unique betting form that can be used on a variety of sporting events.

Instead of placing a bet against a sportsbook, you will place a bet against other people who have placed a bet on the same sporting event.

All bets that have been made will go into a pool, and the amount will be shared equally between everyone that placed bets on the winning selection.

As you might have guessed, a small portion of the total bets will be subtracted by the house.

With pari-mutuel betting, the house will refer to a private company or a state run organization which offers pari-mutuel betting as a service.

https://www.onlinegamblingsites.com/betting/pari-mutuel/

This image explained a bit better too.



And the one I am talking about here will have a fixed odd or course. It will be a simple multibet of x number of selection but the options will have from the same match which the bookies do not offer by the way.

[Little Mouse]

Pick 5 from the list and place a small amount of bet in that. If you get all correct of your selection then you get Nx of the return.

What do you think? I think this will make the test matches exciting.

Give me your feedback.

Who is going to give the Nx return? I am really confused. I have seen your attached image but didn't get much. Can you elaborate a little more? Would appreciate much.
Anyway, I can smell something interesting. Could enjoy it.

[AB de Royse777]

Pick 5 from the list and place a small amount of bet in that. If you get all correct of your selection then you get Nx of the return.

What do you think? I think this will make the test matches exciting.

Give me your feedback.

Who is going to give the Nx return? I am really confused.

It will be me. Imagine me as the bookies.
So I will have some selective markets from the same match and others will pick there selections from the given market. If all their selection wins then they will win the bet just like a multiBet slip.

I have seen your attached image but didn't get much. Can you elaborate a little more? Would appreciate much.

The image on my last post was explaining the mutual betting pools that we are doing right now it's not fixed odd like in the multiBet we will have.

Anyway, I can smell something interesting. Could enjoy it.

It will be interesting. Image in India - Bangladesh match there are 5 selections from the same match to pick and if you get all correct then say the odd offered is 7.00 which means you will get 7x of your stake. It's just like regular mutibet but the difference is that you are getting selections from the same match which none of the bookies offers of course.

Read the example giving in here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168384.msg53048654#msg53048654

[Little Mouse]

It will be me. Imagine me as the bookies.

It's much understandable now. Thanks

[akhjob]

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 sorry if it is a novice question but in the last India Bangladesh match the odds were really low for India and hence i did not participate in the betting pool.

Actually, the odds for India in the mutual betting for the 3rd T20 is the best, ~1.9 (mainly because of Royse's 1.5 mbtc bet on Bangladesh)  compared to other sportbooks which offered ~1.1 to 1.3. For Bangladesh, its was ~2 here, while sportbooks offered around 5 - 6. So, if you had made a bet on India here and made a bet on Bangladesh on other sportbooks, you would have had profit irrespective of who ever wins  

And the image posted by Royse, is how the current betting pools work and ofcourse without the commission, which Royse didn't take, didn't check though 

Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.

@Royse, your current idea, seems interesting let's see how many are interested and how it unravels. I'm interested for sure.