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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
Total Voters: 33

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March 25, 2022, 11:13:41 PM
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Moreover, they are under SMC management, so they might prolong the series with some magic job by the refs. If you know what I mean.

It's good revenue for the league if these two will face each other in the Finals that's why extending the series is always possible. The Manila Clasico is one of the classic rivalry in the league since back then. Many fans want to see this matchup and are willing to pay for a ticket just to watch it live on the venue.

If they will face the Finals, and maybe there's an attempt to extend the series, they should show good entertainment to us and satisfy the audience.

But honestly, I didn't see the Finals will have a magic touch of the refs. Both teams will be serious to win.
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March 25, 2022, 11:39:34 PM
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Magnolia fans have to move on that Game 2 loss.

Their import Mike Harris accepts the loss and the reason he takes is, they didn't perform well. If only they did, even with that controversial call, they will still win. We should also see give credit to what Meralco did.

Learn mistakes, be calm, be prepared, be ready next game, move on, and beat Meralco the next game.

Seeing a comeback next game, no way Magnolia will allow another win by Meralco.
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March 25, 2022, 11:52:34 PM
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Good idea to skip on Game 2 betting. Although Ginebra won, Magnolia will surely spoil my bet.

With the way BGSM is playing, any NLEX doings are nothing. I'm seeing BGSM will now finish the series next game. Will check Magnolia's odds next game to see if it's worth placing a single bet or will do a parlay for boost odds. Might end up betting on a spread if ever.

Magnolia is likely to win Game 3. I like the competition last night, low scoring game means tough defense.

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March 25, 2022, 11:56:15 PM
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Ginebra are more convincing now after winning the second game and the next game will be crucial without Japeth, NLEX might still win the rest of the game so better for Ginebra not to be complacent and stay focused. NLEX lose their import and right after that, they started to struggle and the result is very costly for them. I still want to see NLEX fighting for their chance, hoping that game 3 will be more interesting and let’s see if they can finally beat Ginebra.

Even though the Kings were without Japeth but still it was an easy win for them because NLEX doesn't have the local players that were capable of competing against the locals of Ginebra IMO. I'll give NLEX one win max if this will not be a sweep. PBA commissioner would be happy with this development seeing the Kings advance to the Finals, just hoping though that their opponent would be the Bolts.
ginebera San Miguel is still the king here and they have the crowd also so must be better if they will see us in the finals for sure the big dome will be full again if they are up into the finals.
So for sure the mods in the Philippine basketball association will want Ginebra advance to the finals too as it was a big money for them if the big done will be full.

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March 25, 2022, 11:58:07 PM
Last edit: March 26, 2022, 12:08:31 AM by chaser15
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Well, let's see if it won't be a sweep.
They'll be swept, lol.

I can say that Ginebra really is strong on this conference and they'll be going to the finals with these performances.
They will be in the Finals again and the success rate of Brownlee is very high, so they'll likely win again.
However, without Japeth, things will not be easier for them as a team like Magnolia is always there to challenge them, I even think Magnolia will be the favorite in the Finals, so great chance for bettors thinking Ginebra would win.
Ginebra are more convincing now after winning the second game and the next game will be crucial without Japeth, NLEX might still win the rest of the game so better for Ginebra not to be complacent and stay focused. NLEX lose their import and right after that, they started to struggle and the result is very costly for them. I still want to see NLEX fighting for their chance, hoping that game 3 will be more interesting and let’s see if they can finally beat Ginebra.

I agree with you. They are not letting NLEX do their best. I don't know how NLEX will come back at the series. They are totally owned by Ginebra. If only KJ McDaniels is there, they might have a chance. It's a Ginebra in the Finals. I don't see a comeback from the NLEX. I don't believe they will defeat Ginebra 3 times in a row. It's a miracle if they will do it and Ginebra will surely have lots of criticisms.

Meralco vs Magnolia, it's a close game. We can't speculate who will win the series right away.

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March 26, 2022, 10:40:15 AM
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Meralco vs Magnolia, it's a close game. We can't speculate who will win the series right away.

I would still vote for the Magnolia to win in the series, but I think they'll go down to the wire and there will be a game 5 in the series. While Ginebra would try to rest as early as possible, the other teams are just like playing a chess match making the right adjustment in every game.

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March 26, 2022, 10:57:58 AM
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Meralco vs Magnolia, it's a close game. We can't speculate who will win the series right away.

I would still vote for the Magnolia to win in the series, but I think they'll go down to the wire and there will be a game 5 in the series. While Ginebra would try to rest as early as possible, the other teams are just like playing a chess match making the right adjustment in every game.

I guess everyone here is voting for Magnolia to win, they are the number 1 team for a reason and I think they have the weapon to defeat the Ginebra in case Ginebra will make it to the Finals. Magnolia just had one bad game, that's it, but they'll surely bounce back in game 3, so I wouldn't be surprise if they'll dominate in game 3.

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March 26, 2022, 10:59:29 AM
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Meralco vs Magnolia, it's a close game. We can't speculate who will win the series right away.

I would still vote for the Magnolia to win in the series, but I think they'll go down to the wire and there will be a game 5 in the series. While Ginebra would try to rest as early as possible, the other teams are just like playing a chess match making the right adjustment in every game.

Magnolia got this or should got this because it will be boring if they are the one who will be match against Ginebra in the finals coz we all know Boltz can’t defeat Ginebra even when they have a much stronger import that the current one. Magnolia has a better chance to beat or atleast give a close fight against a crowd favorite Ginebra. NLEX is already kick out on this semis as they can’t solve there issue againts Ginebra.

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March 26, 2022, 11:25:36 AM
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Meralco vs Magnolia, it's a close game. We can't speculate who will win the series right away.

I would still vote for the Magnolia to win in the series, but I think they'll go down to the wire and there will be a game 5 in the series. While Ginebra would try to rest as early as possible, the other teams are just like playing a chess match making the right adjustment in every game.

Magnolia got this or should got this because it will be boring if they are the one who will be match against Ginebra in the finals coz we all know Boltz can’t defeat Ginebra even when they have a much stronger import that the current one. Magnolia has a better chance to beat or atleast give a close fight against a crowd favorite Ginebra.
It's not that Meralco could not defeat Ginebra, I think it's just fun to watch Magnolia playing with the Gin Kings in the finals as Meralco also has a lot of veteran players who would love to play hard to get a championship again.

Barroca, Paul Lee, and Reavis, these are consistent and I love to see them compete the Ginebra.

NLEX is already kick out on this semis as they can’t solve there issue againts Ginebra.
It's not over yet until it's over, they still have one last chance to extend the series, let's catch them tomorrow.

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March 26, 2022, 01:39:01 PM
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Odds for the game tomorrow is already available.

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March 26, 2022, 01:49:48 PM
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NLEX is already kick out on this semis as they can’t solve there issue againts Ginebra.
I might disagree with this.
A 2-0 deficit is very different from a 3-0 deficit and NLEX isn't like a bottom team because they will adjust coming into Game 3. Basketball is like a chess match where if you don't know how to adjust before and during the game then you will lose.

I mean its too early to say that NLEX will be kicked out because I still believe that they will get at least 1 win before losing. I think that the changes of import impacted the whole chemistry of the team unlike in Ginebra where their import has been playing with them for a long time already thus, the chemistry is there. We know how huge the impact of chemistry with how they are playing.


Meralco vs Magnolia, it's a close game. We can't speculate who will win the series right away.

I would still vote for the Magnolia to win in the series, but I think they'll go down to the wire and there will be a game 5 in the series. While Ginebra would try to rest as early as possible, the other teams are just like playing a chess match making the right adjustment in every game.
I hate to see SMC Vs. SMC in the PBA Finals but it seems that many are thinking that MAG and Ginebra will be the ones to fight in the NBA Finals so.. just to be different from all of you I will go for Meralco with this 3-2.

If you will watch the whole game, you will see how good Meralco is in terms of defense. Even the top seeded Magnolia are having a hard time driving inside and score. Its just that Bishop didn't play well in Game 1 that is why they lost and when he played better in Game 2, they won. I'm going with Meralco because I want to see Ginebra and Meralco battle again in Finals. Its better if we will watch MVP Vs. SMC rather than SMC Vs. SMC which is kinda boring to watch at least for me.

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March 26, 2022, 03:09:45 PM
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NLEX is already kick out on this semis as they can’t solve there issue againts Ginebra.
I might disagree with this.
A 2-0 deficit is very different from a 3-0 deficit and NLEX isn't like a bottom team because they will adjust coming into Game 3. Basketball is like a chess match where if you don't know how to adjust before and during the game then you will lose.

I mean its too early to say that NLEX will be kicked out because I still believe that they will get at least 1 win before losing. I think that the changes of import impacted the whole chemistry of the team unlike in Ginebra where their import has been playing with them for a long time already thus, the chemistry is there. We know how huge the impact of chemistry with how they are playing.


Meralco vs Magnolia, it's a close game. We can't speculate who will win the series right away.

I would still vote for the Magnolia to win in the series, but I think they'll go down to the wire and there will be a game 5 in the series. While Ginebra would try to rest as early as possible, the other teams are just like playing a chess match making the right adjustment in every game.
I hate to see SMC Vs. SMC in the PBA Finals but it seems that many are thinking that MAG and Ginebra will be the ones to fight in the NBA Finals so.. just to be different from all of you I will go for Meralco with this 3-2.

If you will watch the whole game, you will see how good Meralco is in terms of defense. Even the top seeded Magnolia are having a hard time driving inside and score. Its just that Bishop didn't play well in Game 1 that is why they lost and when he played better in Game 2, they won. I'm going with Meralco because I want to see Ginebra and Meralco battle again in Finals. Its better if we will watch MVP Vs. SMC rather than SMC Vs. SMC which is kinda boring to watch at least for me.

Yes you are right that mate and for sure many user here wants to see meralco and magnolia fighting in the finals but some people here in my country talked that there's a chance that magnolia vs ginebra in the finals and has a chance to fulfill the dome with an audience cause we all know that gin kings is the people choose even they will lose or win in the match.

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March 26, 2022, 03:13:40 PM
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Meralco vs Magnolia, it's a close game. We can't speculate who will win the series right away.

I would still vote for the Magnolia to win in the series, but I think they'll go down to the wire and there will be a game 5 in the series. While Ginebra would try to rest as early as possible, the other teams are just like playing a chess match making the right adjustment in every game.
I hate to see SMC Vs. SMC in the PBA Finals but it seems that many are thinking that MAG and Ginebra will be the ones to fight in the NBA Finals so.. just to be different from all of you I will go for Meralco with this 3-2.

If you will watch the whole game, you will see how good Meralco is in terms of defense. Even the top seeded Magnolia are having a hard time driving inside and score. Its just that Bishop didn't play well in Game 1 that is why they lost and when he played better in Game 2, they won. I'm going with Meralco because I want to see Ginebra and Meralco battle again in Finals. Its better if we will watch MVP Vs. SMC rather than SMC Vs. SMC which is kinda boring to watch at least for me.

If that's what they will give us then we have no choice but to accept it, and still continue betting as we do.

I've already see some SMC teams facing in the finals before, and to tell you what, they are not boring, except from the people who like to speculate about the series to be easily getting rigged, but we all know that Magnolia and Ginebra are a good match up in the Finals, so we should not be surprised if that will be the match up we will see.

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March 26, 2022, 03:18:38 PM
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I feel bad for NLEX when their import Clark got out of the game too early. The first 2 quarters, they're leading and they could have just maintained their position on those 2 quarters. But still, they get to lose that lead and they were even surpassed with their lead by Ginkings.
Coach Yeng already said before game 2 started to his players that if they'll do the same, they'll lose again yet they lost on game 2 again despite having that motivation and change in plan. Well, let's see if it won't be a sweep. I can say that Ginebra really is strong on this conference and they'll be going to the finals with these performances.

Ginebra played well as they already knew how NLEX will play, they anticipate and really change the tempo after the 2nd half.

Same with how they finish the last game, rally in the last quarter and manage to snatch the lead and beat NLEX. Import

really played a big factor here, Brownlee as how we knew him, giving everything to lead the team in winning this game.

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March 26, 2022, 03:58:39 PM
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Odds for the game tomorrow is already available.

Road Warriors +3.5

If you think Road Warriors has no chance, better take them early now as it might move by tomorrow in favor of the Ginebra.

I wonder why do bookies only give +3.5 for NLEX Road Warriors? I'm expecting more. Cheesy

The way NLEX is playing, they have no answer from Ginebra but still, bookies gave a small spread for them. I hope they moved it +5.5 even at 1.8 odds.

Maybe they think it's going to be a 2-1 series? I'm also expecting NLEX to bounce back. That extra game on the series is money for the league.
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March 26, 2022, 06:10:19 PM
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Odds for the game tomorrow is already available.

Road Warriors +3.5

If you think Road Warriors has no chance, better take them early now as it might move by tomorrow in favor of the Ginebra.

I wonder why do bookies only give +3.5 for NLEX Road Warriors? I'm expecting more. Cheesy

The way NLEX is playing, they have no answer from Ginebra but still, bookies gave a small spread for them. I hope they moved it +5.5 even at 1.8 odds.

Maybe they think it's going to be a 2-1 series? I'm also expecting NLEX to bounce back. That extra game on the series is money for the league.

And it's common to PBA, Ginebra is the crowd favorite they can generate a good amount of viewers if they'll extend this series, we never know if how things will end up tomorrow, maybe it can be an end or NLEX will give a good fight extending this series. If you are a fan handicap or ML is available now, take it now or wait during the live game to see some good odds being offered.

What about Magnolia's -4.5 handicap at 1.83? or ML @ 1.51 value bet or also wait during the live game and see if there's more good odds to offer.

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March 26, 2022, 09:17:06 PM
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What about Magnolia's -4.5 handicap at 1.83? or ML @ 1.51 value bet or also wait during the live game and see if there's more good odds to offer.

I would rather take the ML at 1.51 than the spread of -4.5 because that is too risky.

That 1.51 could be boosted, so it will increase  a bit and I think that's good enough especially if you'll be putting a decent amount on this particular game.
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March 26, 2022, 09:56:34 PM
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Well, the semi-finals could be the same just like what happens in the finals. If you know what I mean but still let's see.  Grin
I know what you mean, and I know it will not happen. haha.
Ginebra maybe a good team but Magnolia is healthy and complete, so I expect a close series.
Yeah, can't wait for these two to go toe to toe in the finals. But as of now, I guess that it's going to be Ginebra which would be sitting there first and they'll got some few days of rest and longer preparation in the finals.

There's going to be no upset as most likely if Ginebra would face Magnolia, the odds would be like 1.80 or 1.90 for the favorits. Moreover, they are under SMC management, so they might prolong the series with some magic job by the refs. If you know what I mean.
Yes, it's more likely on this in the finals and they won't just allow a straight sweep on this series especially if it's on the finals. More money for the league and for the same team if finals goes ahead straight to the 7th game.  Tongue

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March 26, 2022, 10:03:52 PM
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Well, the semi-finals could be the same just like what happens in the finals. If you know what I mean but still let's see.  Grin
I know what you mean, and I know it will not happen. haha.
Ginebra maybe a good team but Magnolia is healthy and complete, so I expect a close series.
Yeah, can't wait for these two to go toe to toe in the finals. But as of now, I guess that it's going to be Ginebra which would be sitting there first and they'll got some few days of rest and longer preparation in the finals.


It's now or never for Ginebra, LOL.

No mercy from them, they will end the series tonight and with that said, there should be no more hesitation betting our money on the Gin Kings.
Still no line movement, Ginebra is still -3.5 which they have covered in the last two games.

we can monitor the active line  now

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March 26, 2022, 10:42:56 PM
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What about Magnolia's -4.5 handicap at 1.83? or ML @ 1.51 value bet or also wait during the live game and see if there's more good odds to offer.

I would rather take the ML at 1.51 than the spread of -4.5 because that is too risky.

That 1.51 could be boosted, so it will increase  a bit and I think that's good enough especially if you'll be putting a decent amount on this particular game.

This Magnolia vs Meralco series is an exciting one because of the firepower that both teams had in their roster and their respective imports are the frontrunner for the best import award.

Bolts +4.5 @1.82, got a feeling that this will be a close game with either team winning so a bet for the Bolts is a practical bet for me.

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