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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 16 (45.7%)
SMB - 7 (20%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 5 (14.3%)
Talk and Text - 6 (17.1%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (2.9%)
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May 21, 2024, 07:23:35 AM
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SMB is just too much for ROS. Although ROS are sharing the ball very well which is good but their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's and since that should be their main weapon to defeat SMB, with a low percentage that's an automatic loss. ROS really struggling to score in the paint as JMF is waiting their to block shots, and sometimes when JMF attack the paint, he can also grab some offensive rebounds which hurts more the ROS. Now, let's talk about game 3, what should be the strategy the ROS has to use? Because they can't afford to go 0-3 where no team have even comeback in the PBA history.

Actually there was already a team that came back from a 0-3 hole and that is the Beermen also lead by that time a younger June Mar Fajardo. It was dubbed as a "beeracle" where the SMB Beermen defeated the Alaska aces four consecutive game to grad the AFC trophy. Just forgot what year that was but it really happens in the PBA.

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SMB is just too much for ROS. Although ROS are sharing the ball very well which is good but their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's and since that should be their main weapon to defeat SMB, with a low percentage that's an automatic loss. ROS really struggling to score in the paint as JMF is waiting their to block shots, and sometimes when JMF attack the paint, he can also grab some offensive rebounds which hurts more the ROS. Now, let's talk about game 3, what should be the strategy the ROS has to use? Because they can't afford to go 0-3 where no team have even comeback in the PBA history.

Actually there was already a team that came back from a 0-3 hole and that is the Beermen also lead by that time a younger June Mar Fajardo. It was dubbed as a "beeracle" where the SMB Beermen defeated the Alaska aces four consecutive game to grad the AFC trophy. Just forgot what year that was but it really happens in the PBA.

Yes, it does not happen in NBA but it happen in the PBA, it's already in the history.

However, the situation was different with the current match up of the SMB now because ROS are healthy and they are the underdog in the series, unlike that time where SMB was only underdog because they don't have their best player,  but when he came back, it changes everything and they made a history.

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May 21, 2024, 12:05:17 PM
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SMB is just too much for ROS. Although ROS are sharing the ball very well which is good but their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's and since that should be their main weapon to defeat SMB, with a low percentage that's an automatic loss. ROS really struggling to score in the paint as JMF is waiting their to block shots, and sometimes when JMF attack the paint, he can also grab some offensive rebounds which hurts more the ROS. Now, let's talk about game 3, what should be the strategy the ROS has to use? Because they can't afford to go 0-3 where no team have even comeback in the PBA history.

Actually there was already a team that came back from a 0-3 hole and that is the Beermen also lead by that time a younger June Mar Fajardo. It was dubbed as a "beeracle" where the SMB Beermen defeated the Alaska aces four consecutive game to grad the AFC trophy. Just forgot what year that was but it really happens in the PBA.

Yes, it does not happen in NBA but it happen in the PBA, it's already in the history.

However, the situation was different with the current match up of the SMB now because ROS are healthy and they are the underdog in the series, unlike that time where SMB was only underdog because they don't have their best player,  but when he came back, it changes everything and they made a history.

Indeed, Alaska got their chance since JMF is not playing on their first 3 meetings but when JMF start to play there's no way Alaska can stop him and with his pals "the death 5" it's really tough to handle thats solid squad, nothing but only watching the Beermen snatching that almost another title for the Aces.

Though, the situation now is too different, SMB is the heavy favorite and there's no one from ROS lineup that they are waiting to bring a big impact, and worse is SMB begins to spark that bond with those resting superstars now being back in form, it's really tough to handled.

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May 21, 2024, 01:32:14 PM
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The Semi Finals will resume tomorrow with the follow schedule and betting spreads.

4:30 PM
Rain or Shine vs San Miguel Beernmen (-5.5)

I don't get why the spread is still the same, it was obvious that ROS stand no chance against the SMB. I know it's a very important game for them tomorrow as they will prevent to go down 0-3, but the way they showed in game 2, I think they just can't win even one game.

However, as a precuationary measure, I don't want to fall into the trap, I'll observe the line and will only place my bet minutes before it will start.
Here's what I'm gonna do, if the line will move to -8.5 again, I'll be betting on the SMB, but if the line will move -3.5, thn I will bet on ROS to win outright.

Bolts vs Barangay Ginebra (-3.5)

This is a close game for sure, and so far Meralco is having great offense in the last 2 games, although they loss in game 1 but they were manage to score over of their team total as predicted by the bookies, so I guess betting on over 179.5 is still the best choice for me.

 
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May 22, 2024, 08:24:46 AM
 #13465

The Semi Finals will resume tomorrow with the follow schedule and betting spreads.

4:30 PM
Rain or Shine vs San Miguel Beernmen (-5.5)

I don't get why the spread is still the same, it was obvious that ROS stand no chance against the SMB. I know it's a very important game for them tomorrow as they will prevent to go down 0-3, but the way they showed in game 2, I think they just can't win even one game.

However, as a precuationary measure, I don't want to fall into the trap, I'll observe the line and will only place my bet minutes before it will start.
Here's what I'm gonna do, if the line will move to -8.5 again, I'll be betting on the SMB, but if the line will move -3.5, thn I will bet on ROS to win outright.

So far the odds for this game has not move and i managed to bet for the Beermen with a -6.5 spread @1.99. This is a risky bet as it might be a trap because there might be a tendency that the Beermen will relax on this game since they are up by two and who knows ROS' barrage from the outside might win the game for them.

Bolts vs Barangay Ginebra (-3.5)

This is a close game for sure, and so far Meralco is having great offense in the last 2 games, although they loss in game 1 but they were manage to score over of their team total as predicted by the bookies, so I guess betting on over 179.5 is still the best choice for me.

I'm betting for the Ginebra Kings on this one as i'm thinking that coach Tim Cone will make some adjustments on their game.

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May 22, 2024, 08:50:00 AM
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The Semi Finals will resume tomorrow with the follow schedule and betting spreads.

4:30 PM
Rain or Shine vs San Miguel Beernmen (-5.5)

I don't get why the spread is still the same, it was obvious that ROS stand no chance against the SMB. I know it's a very important game for them tomorrow as they will prevent to go down 0-3, but the way they showed in game 2, I think they just can't win even one game.

However, as a precuationary measure, I don't want to fall into the trap, I'll observe the line and will only place my bet minutes before it will start.
Here's what I'm gonna do, if the line will move to -8.5 again, I'll be betting on the SMB, but if the line will move -3.5, thn I will bet on ROS to win outright.

So far the odds for this game has not move and i managed to bet for the Beermen with a -6.5 spread @1.99. This is a risky bet as it might be a trap because there might be a tendency that the Beermen will relax on this game since they are up by two and who knows ROS' barrage from the outside might win the game for them.
That's why I didn't bet on the point spread. instead, I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


Bolts vs Barangay Ginebra (-3.5)

This is a close game for sure, and so far Meralco is having great offense in the last 2 games, although they loss in game 1 but they were manage to score over of their team total as predicted by the bookies, so I guess betting on over 179.5 is still the best choice for me.

I'm betting for the Ginebra Kings on this one as i'm thinking that coach Tim Cone will make some adjustments on their game.

Same here, the better team should win and they need to be ahead in the series. It's only -2.5, so if Ginebra will win, there's no doubt they'll be able to cover the spread. On the total, sorry but I have to go against your pick, I'm on the under.

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May 22, 2024, 12:18:30 PM
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I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.
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May 22, 2024, 12:32:37 PM
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I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.

Yup, slow start but after 1st half both teams  start to rally and the over was easily covered, same with the handicap as SMB manage to take the win with a double digit leads, as you mentioned it's a 3-0 series now and the chance of getting sweep is almost at hand for SMB, though maybe to extend the series a magical hands will comes out and provide that luck for RoS bettors, it's not over until the series is not over hahaha. Let's wait and see if SMB will sweep this or ROS will manage to win game/s against the powerhouse SMB.

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May 22, 2024, 02:26:21 PM
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I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.

Yup, slow start but after 1st half both teams  start to rally and the over was easily covered, same with the handicap as SMB manage to take the win with a double digit leads, as you mentioned it's a 3-0 series now and the chance of getting sweep is almost at hand for SMB, though maybe to extend the series a magical hands will comes out and provide that luck for RoS bettors, it's not over until the series is not over hahaha. Let's wait and see if SMB will sweep this or ROS will manage to win game/s against the powerhouse SMB.

The same scenario happened with the Ginebra vs. Meralco game. It was a high-scoring 1st quarter, but the succeeding quarters were low-scoring. I even saw the live total reach 193.5 when it was only 178.5 before the game. Here's the breakdown of the quarters' scoring:

1st: 49...2nd: 33....3rd: 49....4th: 36
The total score was only 167, so the under wins. Additionally, Meralco now holds the lead in the series as they dominated Ginebra in this game.


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May 22, 2024, 02:50:39 PM
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I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.

Yup, slow start but after 1st half both teams  start to rally and the over was easily covered, same with the handicap as SMB manage to take the win with a double digit leads, as you mentioned it's a 3-0 series now and the chance of getting sweep is almost at hand for SMB, though maybe to extend the series a magical hands will comes out and provide that luck for RoS bettors, it's not over until the series is not over hahaha. Let's wait and see if SMB will sweep this or ROS will manage to win game/s against the powerhouse SMB.

The same scenario happened with the Ginebra vs. Meralco game. It was a high-scoring 1st quarter, but the succeeding quarters were low-scoring. I even saw the live total reach 193.5 when it was only 178.5 before the game. Here's the breakdown of the quarters' scoring:

1st: 49...2nd: 33....3rd: 49....4th: 36
The total score was only 167, so the under wins. Additionally, Meralco now holds the lead in the series as they dominated Ginebra in this game.

That's the real defense, these two are both defensive teams, so the outcome should be under. And also, we have to consider that they are not playing in a familiar court. The 3 point shooting was missing as both teams shoots below 30%. I'm sure game 4 will also be a low scoring game as Ginebra is going to activate better defense to even the series, going down 1-3 is already very hard for them, so I guess I'm gonna side on the Ginebra in game 4 and will just forget betting on total.

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May 22, 2024, 09:40:13 PM
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I bet on over 213.5 as it looked so obvious this game is gonna go over. If you look at the last 2 games, the total  were below 200, and now the total offered is over 213.5, this is fishy, so I like to follow my instinct here.


That's very clever, nice pick. It looked like it was going to go under after the first half, but the third quarter saw a lot of points scored, which easily brought the game over. The right pick was SMB -5.5 as they beat ROS by 10 points. Now the series is already 3-0, and there's no way ROS will be able to come back. I think it's going to be a sweep. Congratulations.

Yup, slow start but after 1st half both teams  start to rally and the over was easily covered, same with the handicap as SMB manage to take the win with a double digit leads, as you mentioned it's a 3-0 series now and the chance of getting sweep is almost at hand for SMB, though maybe to extend the series a magical hands will comes out and provide that luck for RoS bettors, it's not over until the series is not over hahaha. Let's wait and see if SMB will sweep this or ROS will manage to win game/s against the powerhouse SMB.

The same scenario happened with the Ginebra vs. Meralco game. It was a high-scoring 1st quarter, but the succeeding quarters were low-scoring. I even saw the live total reach 193.5 when it was only 178.5 before the game. Here's the breakdown of the quarters' scoring:

1st: 49...2nd: 33....3rd: 49....4th: 36
The total score was only 167, so the under wins. Additionally, Meralco now holds the lead in the series as they dominated Ginebra in this game.

That's the real defense, these two are both defensive teams, so the outcome should be under. And also, we have to consider that they are not playing in a familiar court. The 3 point shooting was missing as both teams shoots below 30%. I'm sure game 4 will also be a low scoring game as Ginebra is going to activate better defense to even the series, going down 1-3 is already very hard for them, so I guess I'm gonna side on the Ginebra in game 4 and will just forget betting on total.

The last statement is important siding for Gin kings might be a good one here, for sure CTC will find that good adjustments to improve both their offense and defense they've been outplayed by that familiar uniforms who mostly their opponents during the finals, they need to keep on moving and rotates the ball wisely,  as per Meralco what they've doing with their defense really paying the price as they manage to limits Gin kings predictions.  It's an interesting game 4 for sure as we will see how both teams will prepare in winning the game.

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The last statement is important siding for Gin kings might be a good one here, for sure CTC will find that good adjustments to improve both their offense and defense they've been outplayed by that familiar uniforms who mostly their opponents during the finals, they need to keep on moving and rotates the ball wisely,  as per Meralco what they've doing with their defense really paying the price as they manage to limits Gin kings predictions.  It's an interesting game 4 for sure as we will see how both teams will prepare in winning the game.
I think Ginebra are not really that good as an all Filipino players, they were only popular with Justin Brownlee with them, and now they are already exposed. The same roster, well, added few players but it seems like Meralco has been dominating them already. I would not say it will finish early but the way Meralco are playing, they'll most likely win the series.


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The last statement is important siding for Gin kings might be a good one here, for sure CTC will find that good adjustments to improve both their offense and defense they've been outplayed by that familiar uniforms who mostly their opponents during the finals, they need to keep on moving and rotates the ball wisely,  as per Meralco what they've doing with their defense really paying the price as they manage to limits Gin kings predictions.  It's an interesting game 4 for sure as we will see how both teams will prepare in winning the game.
I think Ginebra are not really that good as an all Filipino players, they were only popular with Justin Brownlee with them, and now they are already exposed. The same roster, well, added few players but it seems like Meralco has been dominating them already. I would not say it will finish early but the way Meralco are playing, they'll most likely win the series.
Don't conclude it yet, it's still far from over as the series is now 2-1, maybe if Bolts will win the next game,  then we can talk about how good the Bolts are. Ginebra will try to even the series tomorrow, anyone here dare to bet on them? Here's the point spread for the game.

Ginebra -3.5 vs Meralco +3.5

For the next game, we have SMB -6.5 vs ROS +6.5
I think the first is interesting, on the 2nd game, it's not worth betting, but if I will, I'll take SMB -6.5 on this close out game.

On the total, I have the first game under 177.5 and over 215.5 for the 2nd game.

 
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On the total, I have the first game under 177.5
I like the under as this sure a very defensive game. Ginebra can't afford to go down 1-3, so I'm sure it will be a very defensive start from the beginning until the end of the game. Normally, the 2nd half is more defensive especially if the first half ended in a close scoring, so consider that asa well.

and over 215.5 for the 2nd game.
This is just a battle of 3 point shooting, so I woudn't be surprise if the result will be over again. last game, the total was 224.
I think it's safer if we will also bet on the SMB's team total, and over would be easy since they are not struggling to shoot.

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May 24, 2024, 06:40:38 AM
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On the total, I have the first game under 177.5
I like the under as this sure a very defensive game. Ginebra can't afford to go down 1-3, so I'm sure it will be a very defensive start from the beginning until the end of the game. Normally, the 2nd half is more defensive especially if the first half ended in a close scoring, so consider that asa well.
Same here, but I guess I'll be betting on the  kings to win this game with -3.5 point spread. I am just observing the point spread and it seems it's not moving. I don't care if it's a trap or not but Ginebra cannot go down 3-1, so if they'll win, I believe they'll finish strong, and with that, they'll likely cover the spread.

I also checked the stats of Thompson and C. Stand, they seemed had a bad game in game 3, so I'm hoping for a big bounce back game and deliver a win.

and over 215.5 for the 2nd game.
This is just a battle of 3 point shooting, so I woudn't be surprise if the result will be over again. last game, the total was 224.
I think it's safer if we will also bet on the SMB's team total, and over would be easy since they are not struggling to shoot.

It could be a high scoring or low scoring, it doesn't matter, what matter which I also believe is that SMB are going to finish ROS tonight, so count me in on the spread which is -6.5.

 
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May 24, 2024, 06:58:55 AM
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The last statement is important siding for Gin kings might be a good one here, for sure CTC will find that good adjustments to improve both their offense and defense they've been outplayed by that familiar uniforms who mostly their opponents during the finals, they need to keep on moving and rotates the ball wisely,  as per Meralco what they've doing with their defense really paying the price as they manage to limits Gin kings predictions.  It's an interesting game 4 for sure as we will see how both teams will prepare in winning the game.
I think Ginebra are not really that good as an all Filipino players, they were only popular with Justin Brownlee with them, and now they are already exposed. The same roster, well, added few players but it seems like Meralco has been dominating them already. I would not say it will finish early but the way Meralco are playing, they'll most likely win the series.
Don't conclude it yet, it's still far from over as the series is now 2-1, maybe if Bolts will win the next game,  then we can talk about how good the Bolts are. Ginebra will try to even the series tomorrow, anyone here dare to bet on them? Here's the point spread for the game.

Ginebra -3.5 vs Meralco +3.5

For the next game, we have SMB -6.5 vs ROS +6.5
I think the first is interesting, on the 2nd game, it's not worth betting, but if I will, I'll take SMB -6.5 on this close out game.

On the total, I have the first game under 177.5 and over 215.5 for the 2nd game.

For Gin kings, I agree with you, not done yet unless Meralco will manage to take the game and have that comfortable series lead 3-1, but still close and I guess it's the team's pride for the Gin kings they need the win to tie up the series and keep the distance close, while with Meralco whatever the adjustments that they did it's working for them especially their defense.

it's giving  tough job for Gin kings and they are really being covered by Meralco from all the sides of the court, Meralco just need to continue that aggresiveness in plyaying good defense but also needs to take those good looks and make those shots.

While in the 2nd game, even I'm a big fan of SMB I think there's a chance that PBA will play this series I mean more games can convert decent numbers of profits, we never know if the series will extend.


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May 24, 2024, 07:44:29 AM
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While in the 2nd game, even I'm a big fan of SMB I think there's a chance that PBA will play this series I mean more games can convert decent numbers of profits, we never know if the series will extend.

LOL, i'm with you on this one. I'm thinking that the Beermen will relax and let coach Yeng Guiao got his first win of the semis tonight.

ROS ML @3.05 is very attractive and they will play as if there's no more tomorrow as a lose will be an early vacation for them hehe.

I'm not thinking that this will be a rigged game but ROS will just play inspired basketball after that incident wherein TR7 shoots the ball even when they were ahead and he could have just let the clock melt.

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While in the 2nd game, even I'm a big fan of SMB I think there's a chance that PBA will play this series I mean more games can convert decent numbers of profits, we never know if the series will extend.

LOL, i'm with you on this one. I'm thinking that the Beermen will relax and let coach Yeng Guiao got his first win of the semis tonight.

ROS ML @3.05 is very attractive and they will play as if there's no more tomorrow as a lose will be an early vacation for them hehe.
Honestly I doubt that because even if they'll relax, this is actually a mismatch. However, if SMB would really loss, at least they can still score their usual, and that would probably tell that they will score over 100 points, or whatever their team total now, I haven't checked it yet.

I'm not thinking that this will be a rigged game but ROS will just play inspired basketball after that incident wherein TR7 shoots the ball even when they were ahead and he could have just let the clock melt.

Or it could be TR7 going to make coach Yeng pay for his attitude on the last game, LOL.. anyway, we are never sure what would happen, but in situation like this where we are doubtful on who will win, much better to focus on the total.

BTW, Ginebra is looking like a winner in game 4, this series is sure gonna be even after the game.


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May 24, 2024, 12:18:34 PM
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BTW, Ginebra is looking like a winner in game 4, this series is sure gonna be even after the game.
Yeah, it was a dominant win by th Gin Kings, a needed win to even the series, and now we have a new series which is only down to best of 3. I guess we will be seeing a game 7 here, and I have a feeling that next game it will be Meralco that will be winning and then Ginebra for game 6 and 7. I hope this is not scripted but the way I see it, they are evenly match so Meralco gives better value as they are an underdog in ever game.

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May 24, 2024, 02:12:18 PM
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Big come back by SMB, they were down like almost 20 IIRC, and then they have a big run in the 4th quarter to beat the ROS by 7 points.

if we look at the scoring per quarter,
https://pba.ph/recap?match=2445863

SMB   25   16   34   32   107
ROS   27   28   32   13   100

That 4th quarter was when SMB decided to finished the series in game 4.



ROS ML @3.05 is very attractive and they will play as if there's no more tomorrow as a lose will be an early vacation for them hehe.
This looked like an easy win after the 3rd quarter, but this SMB team is just too strong.

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