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July 19, 2024, 07:07:08 PM
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Another big win by the Philippines.... 79-92 was the final score and we are still on a winning streak.
Congratulations again to our SGA.

I thought I would be thrilled watching the games when SGA is dominating in most of them, but I didn't feel it. Honestly, I like to see SGA play against good teams where the game is close so I can feel the thrill. It seems like in this tournament, we are sending our best players, but the other countries are not putting much interest into the league based on the quality of players they sent. I don't know if it's just me, but that's my honest observation.

just look at that.
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Jul.12:   Philippines   104-79   United A.
Jul.13:   Australia   69-91   Philippines
Jul.14:   Philippines   82-74   Ukraine
Jul.16:   Philippines   89-54   Malaysia
Jul.17:   USA   90-112   Philippines   

Oh well, stats said it all as the terms that you use it might be possible that other countries are not really paying attention with Jones cup.

Moving back to PBA, did you read that article about coach Yeng  making another statement  " iba yung magaling sa magulang" from how I see his point,  SMC and MVP groups can quickly upgrade their teams while independent teams needs to wait for the draft or trade that can equally Sent players.

Though he can just make statements but he can't do nothing about it as PBA officials always gave their blessings for both groups  of companies ,.

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July 20, 2024, 11:17:44 AM
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Is he the first one to join a team that will participate in the Euroleague?

https://x.com/HomerSayson/status/1814141841219956778
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BREAKING NEWS: Thirdy Ravena is finalizing a deal to join BC Dubai, multiple sources just told me.

BC Dubai is a newly-established team that will enter the EuroLeague beginning with the BKT EuroCup this coming September.

The former Ateneo star left the Japan B. League last May after four seasons with San-En NeoPhoenix.

Keep making the 🇵🇭🇵🇭 proud Thirdy!!!

He's been criticized by some fans but this guy is like the Russelle Westbrook of the Philippines. I think he really deserve to be on this spot, what do you think, does he has a shot of getting into the NBA? like what's next for this, is it NBA, right?

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July 20, 2024, 11:43:28 AM
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Is he the first one to join a team that will participate in the Euroleague?

https://x.com/HomerSayson/status/1814141841219956778
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BREAKING NEWS: Thirdy Ravena is finalizing a deal to join BC Dubai, multiple sources just told me.

BC Dubai is a newly-established team that will enter the EuroLeague beginning with the BKT EuroCup this coming September.

The former Ateneo star left the Japan B. League last May after four seasons with San-En NeoPhoenix.

Keep making the 🇵🇭🇵🇭 proud Thirdy!!!

He's been criticized by some fans but this guy is like the Russelle Westbrook of the Philippines. I think he really deserve to be on this spot, what do you think, does he has a shot of getting into the NBA? like what's next for this, is it NBA, right?

Him and his brother are reaching their dreams. His brother Kiefer is with the SGA Philippines and is currently on a winning streak in the Jones Cup tournament. Speaking of the Jones Cup, the Philippines will have a game vs. Taiwan. Can this be another blowout win?

Regarding the PBA, I have read a rumor about Jalalon. It says he cannot play with SMC teams anymore as he's suspected of selling games and playing outside activities not permitted by the PBA. What can you say about this rumor?

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July 20, 2024, 12:01:27 PM
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Is he the first one to join a team that will participate in the Euroleague?

No, Juan GDL is the first Filipino player participates in Euro League way back year 2022.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/others/1407382/juan-gdl-becomes-the-first-filipino-player-in-european-basketball-history/


https://x.com/HomerSayson/status/1814141841219956778
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BREAKING NEWS: Thirdy Ravena is finalizing a deal to join BC Dubai, multiple sources just told me.

BC Dubai is a newly-established team that will enter the EuroLeague beginning with the BKT EuroCup this coming September.

The former Ateneo star left the Japan B. League last May after four seasons with San-En NeoPhoenix.

Keep making the 🇵🇭🇵🇭 proud Thirdy!!!

He's been criticized by some fans but this guy is like the Russelle Westbrook of the Philippines. I think he really deserve to be on this spot, what do you think, does he has a shot of getting into the NBA? like what's next for this, is it NBA, right?

This is amazing news and we can see that Ravena is really developing so well overseas and his talent has been seen then scouted well to participate on more bigger leagues. Also can't blame people for his past performance and I think he learn a lot from that then do a lot of work to improve his self to became good and be a team player. Now he's bound to play on Euro League then hopefully he can showcase his talent since if everything will end up well on his side then provably other teams will again try to look for another Filipino players to join their team.

R


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July 20, 2024, 12:19:59 PM
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Another big win by the Philippines.... 79-92 was the final score and we are still on a winning streak.
Congratulations again to our SGA.

I thought I would be thrilled watching the games when SGA is dominating in most of them, but I didn't feel it. Honestly, I like to see SGA play against good teams where the game is close so I can feel the thrill. It seems like in this tournament, we are sending our best players, but the other countries are not putting much interest into the league based on the quality of players they sent. I don't know if it's just me, but that's my honest observation.

just look at that.
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Jul.12:   Philippines   104-79   United A.
Jul.13:   Australia   69-91   Philippines
Jul.14:   Philippines   82-74   Ukraine
Jul.16:   Philippines   89-54   Malaysia
Jul.17:   USA   90-112   Philippines   
That's your opinion and observation so you're entitled for that. I don't think that other countries don't give importance to this tournament. While in the history of Jones Cup, we've got some championships too but look at Iran. I guess Haddadi's retirement really hit them.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jones_Cup)

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July 20, 2024, 12:43:29 PM
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I don't think that other countries don't give importance to this tournament. While in the history of Jones Cup, we've got some championships too but look at Iran. I guess Haddadi's retirement really hit them.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jones_Cup)
I think Iran has not participated in this tournament as I don't see their team in the rankings. Currently, only the Philippines are still undefeated, so it's safe to say that the Philippines will likely win. For Japan, I think they send their best players as are very much fulfilled already since they will be participating in the Olympics, while our team failed after a good start in the Olympics qualifier. So maybe this is the tournament that will make the fans happy when SGA wins the trophy.

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July 20, 2024, 04:55:32 PM
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I don't think that other countries don't give importance to this tournament. While in the history of Jones Cup, we've got some championships too but look at Iran. I guess Haddadi's retirement really hit them.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jones_Cup)
I think Iran has not participated in this tournament as I don't see their team in the rankings. Currently, only the Philippines are still undefeated, so it's safe to say that the Philippines will likely win. For Japan, I think they send their best players as are very much fulfilled already since they will be participating in the Olympics, while our team failed after a good start in the Olympics qualifier. So maybe this is the tournament that will make the fans happy when SGA wins the trophy.

Maybe yes, Japan already good with their journey after being qualified to the upcoming olympics it might be good for the team to focus with their journey and maybe they just sending players but not those from the national squad, while SGA is really doing good having that winning streaks, like what you said the chance of winning the title is possible and that's a good relief after being short from the last OQT.

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July 20, 2024, 09:18:59 PM
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I don't think that other countries don't give importance to this tournament. While in the history of Jones Cup, we've got some championships too but look at Iran. I guess Haddadi's retirement really hit them.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jones_Cup)
I think Iran has not participated in this tournament as I don't see their team in the rankings. Currently, only the Philippines are still undefeated, so it's safe to say that the Philippines will likely win. For Japan, I think they send their best players as are very much fulfilled already since they will be participating in the Olympics, while our team failed after a good start in the Olympics qualifier. So maybe this is the tournament that will make the fans happy when SGA wins the trophy.

Maybe yes, Japan already good with their journey after being qualified to the upcoming olympics it might be good for the team to focus with their journey and maybe they just sending players but not those from the national squad, while SGA is really doing good having that winning streaks, like what you said the chance of winning the title is possible and that's a good relief after being short from the last OQT.

Honestly, I think the current lineup is better than the players who played during the Olympic qualifier. You can see a lot of imports in the SGA team now, unlike the Olympic qualifier where we only had one, Justin Brownlee, our naturalized player. Maybe that's the reason why we are dominating the tournament and are very close to winning again after the 2019 success.

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July 21, 2024, 12:37:17 PM
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I don't think that other countries don't give importance to this tournament. While in the history of Jones Cup, we've got some championships too but look at Iran. I guess Haddadi's retirement really hit them.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jones_Cup)
I think Iran has not participated in this tournament as I don't see their team in the rankings. Currently, only the Philippines are still undefeated, so it's safe to say that the Philippines will likely win. For Japan, I think they send their best players as are very much fulfilled already since they will be participating in the Olympics, while our team failed after a good start in the Olympics qualifier. So maybe this is the tournament that will make the fans happy when SGA wins the trophy.
It's not only Philippines, Taiwan Taipei B is also 7-0.
(https://www.sofascore.com/tournament/basketball/international/william-jones-cup/22861#id:63532)
Good luck to SGA and I hope that they'll be the one to win this game. The game is live now.
It is on half time.
SGA 41
Taipei B 34

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July 21, 2024, 02:43:44 PM
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I don't think that other countries don't give importance to this tournament. While in the history of Jones Cup, we've got some championships too but look at Iran. I guess Haddadi's retirement really hit them.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jones_Cup)
I think Iran has not participated in this tournament as I don't see their team in the rankings. Currently, only the Philippines are still undefeated, so it's safe to say that the Philippines will likely win. For Japan, I think they send their best players as are very much fulfilled already since they will be participating in the Olympics, while our team failed after a good start in the Olympics qualifier. So maybe this is the tournament that will make the fans happy when SGA wins the trophy.
It's not only Philippines, Taiwan Taipei B is also 7-0.
(https://www.sofascore.com/tournament/basketball/international/william-jones-cup/22861#id:63532)
Good luck to SGA and I hope that they'll be the one to win this game. The game is live now.
It is on half time.
SGA 41
Taipei B 34
It seems it was already over as the ranking from here (link below) was already updated.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2024/07/jones-cup-2024-live-updates-schedule.html

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TEAM/COUNTRY   WIN   LOSS   STREAK
 Strong Group Pilipinas (GOLD)   8   0   +8
Chinese Taipei A (SILVER)   7   1   -1
Ukraine (BRONZE)   6   2   +6

Philippines ended winning a gold with undefeated record. This is a big achievement for the Philippines, their basketball really is already developing as they have dominated in this big competition. Kudos to the coaching staff as well as without them, this wouldn't be possible.

So now we know that Coach Chot is really a problem. ( no disrespect to him).

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July 21, 2024, 03:53:02 PM
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I don't think that other countries don't give importance to this tournament. While in the history of Jones Cup, we've got some championships too but look at Iran. I guess Haddadi's retirement really hit them.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jones_Cup)
I think Iran has not participated in this tournament as I don't see their team in the rankings. Currently, only the Philippines are still undefeated, so it's safe to say that the Philippines will likely win. For Japan, I think they send their best players as are very much fulfilled already since they will be participating in the Olympics, while our team failed after a good start in the Olympics qualifier. So maybe this is the tournament that will make the fans happy when SGA wins the trophy.
It's not only Philippines, Taiwan Taipei B is also 7-0.
(https://www.sofascore.com/tournament/basketball/international/william-jones-cup/22861#id:63532)
Good luck to SGA and I hope that they'll be the one to win this game. The game is live now.
It is on half time.
SGA 41
Taipei B 34
It seems it was already over as the ranking from here (link below) was already updated.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2024/07/jones-cup-2024-live-updates-schedule.html

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TEAM/COUNTRY   WIN   LOSS   STREAK
 Strong Group Pilipinas (GOLD)   8   0   +8
Chinese Taipei A (SILVER)   7   1   -1
Ukraine (BRONZE)   6   2   +6

Philippines ended winning a gold with undefeated record. This is a big achievement for the Philippines, their basketball really is already developing as they have dominated in this big competition. Kudos to the coaching staff as well as without them, this wouldn't be possible.

So now we know that Coach Chot is really a problem. ( no disrespect to him).

Congrats SGA team for winning the title and bringing that back to the country, it's really good to see winning it with a dominating outcome, taking the league's best performances as they complete the league undefeated, like what you said not just the players but also those coaching staff and the whole management behind this squad, they deserves a sweet celebrations!

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July 21, 2024, 09:12:18 PM
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It's not only Philippines, Taiwan Taipei B is also 7-0.
(https://www.sofascore.com/tournament/basketball/international/william-jones-cup/22861#id:63532)
Good luck to SGA and I hope that they'll be the one to win this game. The game is live now.
It is on half time.
SGA 41
Taipei B 34
It seems it was already over as the ranking from here (link below) was already updated.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2024/07/jones-cup-2024-live-updates-schedule.html

Quote
TEAM/COUNTRY   WIN   LOSS   STREAK
 Strong Group Pilipinas (GOLD)   8   0   +8
Chinese Taipei A (SILVER)   7   1   -1
Ukraine (BRONZE)   6   2   +6

Philippines ended winning a gold with undefeated record. This is a big achievement for the Philippines, their basketball really is already developing as they have dominated in this big competition. Kudos to the coaching staff as well as without them, this wouldn't be possible.
When I was watching the game, I thought that SGA was about to lose. That less than 2 minutes was crucial, I think that Taiwan has got 5-7 points in the lead but turnovers and 3 points led by RJ Abarrientos did it and as well as that shot made by Kiefer.
The last ball posession made the game overtime and our SGA did it well.

So now we know that Coach Chot is really a problem. ( no disrespect to him).
SGA and Gilas are two different teams but should just stay in the PBA.

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July 21, 2024, 11:52:24 PM
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When I was watching the game, I thought that SGA was about to lose. That less than 2 minutes was crucial, I think that Taiwan has got 5-7 points in the lead but turnovers and 3 points led by RJ Abarrientos did it and as well as that shot made by Kiefer.
The last ball posession made the game overtime and our SGA did it well.


True, the Philippines were already down by about three possessions, but we didn't give up, even though the calls of the refs were very obviously favoring the home team. But that was the game. We played hard, never gave up, and made some clutch shots. That shot by Ravena was really big, but Taiwan got back to bring the game into overtime.

I think our imports also did pretty well, but players like RJ Abarrientos and Ravena were big in the clutch. So, a big congratulations to this team! After the last win in 2019, we got ourselves back in first place. Hopefully, they'll continue to work on the lineup so we can at least dominate this tournament, which is easier compared to the other tournaments our team, the Philippines, has been participating in.

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July 22, 2024, 04:56:54 AM
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When I was watching the game, I thought that SGA was about to lose. That less than 2 minutes was crucial, I think that Taiwan has got 5-7 points in the lead but turnovers and 3 points led by RJ Abarrientos did it and as well as that shot made by Kiefer.
The last ball posession made the game overtime and our SGA did it well.


True, the Philippines were already down by about three possessions, but we didn't give up, even though the calls of the refs were very obviously favoring the home team. But that was the game. We played hard, never gave up, and made some clutch shots. That shot by Ravena was really big, but Taiwan got back to bring the game into overtime.
That was a good game by the Philippines, they really fought hard to bring the victory and they succeeded in the overtime. I really thought they'll continue to dominate but this Taiwan team also has their imports and half american, the young guy who is only 18 years old but played with great skills in basketball. We have imports as well, I think among the teams we are the one with most imports.

I think our imports also did pretty well, but players like RJ Abarrientos and Ravena were big in the clutch. So, a big congratulations to this team! After the last win in 2019, we got ourselves back in first place. Hopefully, they'll continue to work on the lineup so we can at least dominate this tournament, which is easier compared to the other tournaments our team, the Philippines, has been participating in.

I wonder why RJ Abarrientos didn't play in the PBA, I think he could be a great point guard in a strong teams like the SMB, Ginebra, or TNT.  I'm just so proud of out team that we have achieve this big victory. Congratulations to Strong Group Athletics.

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July 22, 2024, 06:02:51 AM
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I wonder why RJ Abarrientos didn't play in the PBA, I think he could be a great point guard in a strong teams like the SMB, Ginebra, or TNT.  I'm just so proud of out team that we have achieve this big victory. Congratulations to Strong Group Athletics.

H was already selected by Ginebra, you can see on this video. RJ Abarrientos as THIRD PICK overall | PBA Season 49 Draft

You are right, he could be a good point guard with this team, so with that, Scottie won't be playing that position anymore if they will give him a starting role? I think he deserve that as winning a championship with SGA is bigger than winning a championship in the PBA.

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July 22, 2024, 11:26:46 AM
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I wonder why RJ Abarrientos didn't play in the PBA, I think he could be a great point guard in a strong teams like the SMB, Ginebra, or TNT.  I'm just so proud of out team that we have achieve this big victory. Congratulations to Strong Group Athletics.

H was already selected by Ginebra, you can see on this video. RJ Abarrientos as THIRD PICK overall | PBA Season 49 Draft

You are right, he could be a good point guard with this team, so with that, Scottie won't be playing that position anymore if they will give him a starting role? I think he deserve that as winning a championship with SGA is bigger than winning a championship in the PBA.

We have an interesting player making his debut in the upcoming Governor's Cup. How is he related to the Flying A, Johnny Abarrientos? I saw him play with SGA and he was really tough; maybe his experience overseas really made him a better player. But now that he is back in the PBA, I'm curious: does he have a big offer from Ginebra, like an underground agreement?

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July 22, 2024, 11:33:10 AM
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I wonder why RJ Abarrientos didn't play in the PBA, I think he could be a great point guard in a strong teams like the SMB, Ginebra, or TNT.  I'm just so proud of out team that we have achieve this big victory. Congratulations to Strong Group Athletics.

H was already selected by Ginebra, you can see on this video. RJ Abarrientos as THIRD PICK overall | PBA Season 49 Draft

You are right, he could be a good point guard with this team, so with that, Scottie won't be playing that position anymore if they will give him a starting role? I think he deserve that as winning a championship with SGA is bigger than winning a championship in the PBA.

I agree with you, he's skillsets are really great and just like his uncle he got that good decision making, a playmaker who adds up good offensive threats to the opposing team, he can attract the defense and simply passed the ball to a much open man to take the shot, I'm for sure think that coach Tim already see that the reason why Gin kings draft him as preparation for more exposures with how the system works for coach Tim.

Surely we will see him wearing again the Gilas uniform, with the talent and skills that he got, it's not hard for him to adopt the system and I'm pretty sure his uncle will always be there for him in terms of how to work with coach Tim.

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July 22, 2024, 12:23:21 PM
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I wonder why RJ Abarrientos didn't play in the PBA, I think he could be a great point guard in a strong teams like the SMB, Ginebra, or TNT.  I'm just so proud of out team that we have achieve this big victory. Congratulations to Strong Group Athletics.

H was already selected by Ginebra, you can see on this video. RJ Abarrientos as THIRD PICK overall | PBA Season 49 Draft

You are right, he could be a good point guard with this team, so with that, Scottie won't be playing that position anymore if they will give him a starting role? I think he deserve that as winning a championship with SGA is bigger than winning a championship in the PBA.

I agree with you, he's skillsets are really great and just like his uncle he got that good decision making, a playmaker who adds up good offensive threats to the opposing team, he can attract the defense and simply passed the ball to a much open man to take the shot, I'm for sure think that coach Tim already see that the reason why Gin kings draft him as preparation for more exposures with how the system works for coach Tim.

Surely we will see him wearing again the Gilas uniform, with the talent and skills that he got, it's not hard for him to adopt the system and I'm pretty sure his uncle will always be there for him in terms of how to work with coach Tim.

He is only 5′11″, one of the shortest guards in the PBA, but he has the heart of a champion as he is very competitive. There's a chance that he'll play with Gilas since he is now with Ginebra. Coach Tim would surely get his own players as he already knows them well. He is even taller than Jimmy Alapag, who is only 5′9″, but hopefully, he will do great like Alapag, who was not only a good point guard but also a good outside shooter.

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July 22, 2024, 02:16:54 PM
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When I was watching the game, I thought that SGA was about to lose. That less than 2 minutes was crucial, I think that Taiwan has got 5-7 points in the lead but turnovers and 3 points led by RJ Abarrientos did it and as well as that shot made by Kiefer.
The last ball posession made the game overtime and our SGA did it well.

True, the Philippines were already down by about three possessions, but we didn't give up, even though the calls of the refs were very obviously favoring the home team. But that was the game. We played hard, never gave up, and made some clutch shots. That shot by Ravena was really big, but Taiwan got back to bring the game into overtime.

I think our imports also did pretty well, but players like RJ Abarrientos and Ravena were big in the clutch. So, a big congratulations to this team! After the last win in 2019, we got ourselves back in first place. Hopefully, they'll continue to work on the lineup so we can at least dominate this tournament, which is easier compared to the other tournaments our team, the Philippines, has been participating in.
And looking at that, I thought that the SGA will have some buzzer beater but that's fine, it resulted to OT and then a win. As for the refs calls, they're too obvious and that's why even CMaC was even though to be selling the game. LOL, obvious as well, a lot of free throws missed. But that's already done and SGA won the championship, another clutch game.

Going to PBA, did you guys saw the news about PBA approved the 4-point shot?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-officially-adopts-four-point-shot-for-next-season-a793-20240722?ref=article_tag)

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July 22, 2024, 03:01:15 PM
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When I was watching the game, I thought that SGA was about to lose. That less than 2 minutes was crucial, I think that Taiwan has got 5-7 points in the lead but turnovers and 3 points led by RJ Abarrientos did it and as well as that shot made by Kiefer.
The last ball posession made the game overtime and our SGA did it well.

True, the Philippines were already down by about three possessions, but we didn't give up, even though the calls of the refs were very obviously favoring the home team. But that was the game. We played hard, never gave up, and made some clutch shots. That shot by Ravena was really big, but Taiwan got back to bring the game into overtime.

I think our imports also did pretty well, but players like RJ Abarrientos and Ravena were big in the clutch. So, a big congratulations to this team! After the last win in 2019, we got ourselves back in first place. Hopefully, they'll continue to work on the lineup so we can at least dominate this tournament, which is easier compared to the other tournaments our team, the Philippines, has been participating in.
And looking at that, I thought that the SGA will have some buzzer beater but that's fine, it resulted to OT and then a win. As for the refs calls, they're too obvious and that's why even CMaC was even though to be selling the game. LOL, obvious as well, a lot of free throws missed. But that's already done and SGA won the championship, another clutch game.
They tried to cheat SGA, but they didn't succeed as it was obvious SGA was the better team. Hopefully, the next Jones Cup will not be held in that country. Maybe it could be held in the Philippines, giving our players the home court advantage, but we also want to see fair officiating if that happens.


I read this just today. Are we the only league that has this kind of rule? This looks interesting, and I guess the players who will benefit are those who love to shoot beyond the arc. To name a few, Paul Lee and maybe Bolick. Let's see how this goes. I'm excited for the resumption of the PBA, which will be happening next month.

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