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February 27, 2024, 02:35:59 PM
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Short break for PBA as the new conference or season (not sure) will start tomorrow.

The first game at 4:30 PM features Bossing vs Blackwater, and the second game is between TNT vs Rain or Shine. I looked at my bookie to check the betting odds, but it seems they're not available yet.
That was fast, just recently we witness the PBA Finals, and after that the FIBA qualifier, and then we are back to the regular games.
it's actually a Philippine Cup, so it's very exciting to watch. here's some news about that.

PBA: Full schedule released for Philippine Cup starting February 28

By the way, have you read any rumors about Chris Newsome being on the trading block?
Saw this on facebook posts and youtube videos too. We will see more report about this if it will be confirm.

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February 28, 2024, 11:33:26 AM
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Short break for PBA as the new conference or season (not sure) will start tomorrow.

The first game at 4:30 PM features Bossing vs Blackwater, and the second game is between TNT vs Rain or Shine. I looked at my bookie to check the betting odds, but it seems they're not available yet.
That was fast, just recently we witness the PBA Finals, and after that the FIBA qualifier, and then we are back to the regular games.
it's actually a Philippine Cup, so it's very exciting to watch. here's some news about that.

PBA: Full schedule released for Philippine Cup starting February 28
It's confirmed as I already saw the first game. I bet on Blackwater to win, and some special to win by 11+.. was thinking I'm gonna cash out tonight with a big odds but this team allowed the Bolts to have a comeback and they just end up winning by 3 points. But still a win though, I'm thankful for that.
96-93 was the score.


By the way, have you read any rumors about Chris Newsome being on the trading block?
Saw this on facebook posts and youtube videos too. We will see more report about this if it will be confirm.
Chris Newsome is still playing with the Bolts, but this rumor could be true as this team is really struggling, not a good start of the new season losing to the Blackwater.

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February 28, 2024, 12:30:36 PM
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Short break for PBA as the new conference or season (not sure) will start tomorrow.

The first game at 4:30 PM features Bossing vs Blackwater, and the second game is between TNT vs Rain or Shine. I looked at my bookie to check the betting odds, but it seems they're not available yet.
That was fast, just recently we witness the PBA Finals, and after that the FIBA qualifier, and then we are back to the regular games.
it's actually a Philippine Cup, so it's very exciting to watch. here's some news about that.

PBA: Full schedule released for Philippine Cup starting February 28
It's confirmed as I already saw the first game. I bet on Blackwater to win, and some special to win by 11+.. was thinking I'm gonna cash out tonight with a big odds but this team allowed the Bolts to have a comeback and they just end up winning by 3 points. But still a win though, I'm thankful for that.
96-93 was the score.

Wow, Blackwater showing some competitiveness, just like what I tought about Mambatac, giving him that playing time and he will give you a quality game, not sure what happened between him and coach Yeng but it nice to see him back in action, let see if how he will manage to help this team to continue being competitive, sad to say that I missed watching the game as I'm waiting for it knowing that my James Yap will going to play, 5 points in 12 mins, not bad for him and a bonus win for the team.

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By the way, have you read any rumors about Chris Newsome being on the trading block?
Saw this on facebook posts and youtube videos too. We will see more report about this if it will be confirm.
Chris Newsome is still playing with the Bolts, but this rumor could be true as this team is really struggling, not a good start of the new season losing to the Blackwater.

Just the same thing over and over, if there's a rumor we might notice changes from how the player play the game, maybe there's already a negotiation between him and boss Al' as we noticed how good he was with CTC's system, maybe chances to get his service for the Brgy might be possible, good replacement for LA in case he choose to retire and focus with his coaching career.

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February 28, 2024, 12:35:28 PM
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Just the same thing over and over, if there's a rumor we might notice changes from how the player play the game, maybe there's already a negotiation between him and boss Al' as we noticed how good he was with CTC's system, maybe chances to get his service for the Brgy might be possible, good replacement for LA in case he choose to retire and focus with his coaching career.

Playing with SMB, if that's a trade, who would they trade for Chris Newsome? It would be easier for him if he transferred to the sister team of Meralco, which is TNT. I think they need someone like him, someone who can play defense, as TNT isn't known for being particularly defensive; they tend to focus on running the ball and shooting from outside. Anyway, let's wait for the development of that rumor. Currently, it's TNT vs ROS, and the game is almost tied after the first half, with the score at 51-50, ROS taking a 1 point lead.

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Just the same thing over and over, if there's a rumor we might notice changes from how the player play the game, maybe there's already a negotiation between him and boss Al' as we noticed how good he was with CTC's system, maybe chances to get his service for the Brgy might be possible, good replacement for LA in case he choose to retire and focus with his coaching career.

Playing with SMB, if that's a trade, who would they trade for Chris Newsome? It would be easier for him if he transferred to the sister team of Meralco, which is TNT. I think they need someone like him, someone who can play defense, as TNT isn't known for being particularly defensive; they tend to focus on running the ball and shooting from outside. Anyway, let's wait for the development of that rumor. Currently, it's TNT vs ROS, and the game is almost tied after the first half, with the score at 51-50, ROS taking a 1 point lead.

We don't know whom they'll trade for him. Actually, it wasn't SMB but the Ginebra San Miguel. I'm sure Tim Cone would not let one of his starters go; most likely, it will be a bunch of players if such trade rumors come into reality.

Regarding the ROS vs TNT, what a win..


Pogoy, Oftana, Aurin, and Castro were the top performers. This guy Aurin is the new name, he is getting the trust, he could be a starter in the long run.

I don't know that Nambatac was already with the Blackwater.

Nambatac leads Blackwater past Meralco

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OACH Jeff Cariaso was expecting Rey Nambatac to make an immediate impact on his new Blackwater team.

The former Rain or Shine guard did not disappoint, racking up a double-double and leading the Bossing to a 96-93 escape over Meralco Wednesday at the start of the PBA Season 48 Philippine Cup at the Ynares Center in Antipolo.

Nambatac finished with 27 points and a career-high 10 assists and laced his sterling performance with a defensive rebound in the dying seconds that prevented the Bolts from completing their fightback from a 67-86 deficit.

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February 28, 2024, 03:17:48 PM
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Regarding the ROS vs TNT, what a win, Clarito sink the last shot for the win.


Pogoy, Oftana, Aurin, and Castro were the top performers. This guy Aurin is the new name, he is getting the trust, he could be a starter in the long run.
The key to that win is because they were sharing the ball very well. And their 3-point shooting percentage is high; they hit 40% in that game. It was a close game, and I thought ROS would be able to win, but TNT wouldn't allow that, especially with Castro who is already back. Last season they struggled since Pogoy needed to rest, and Castro was out, but now they are complete and healthy, so they are expected to make it to the playoffs.

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February 29, 2024, 07:46:53 AM
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Regarding the ROS vs TNT, what a win, Clarito sink the last shot for the win.


Pogoy, Oftana, Aurin, and Castro were the top performers. This guy Aurin is the new name, he is getting the trust, he could be a starter in the long run.
The key to that win is because they were sharing the ball very well. And their 3-point shooting percentage is high; they hit 40% in that game. It was a close game, and I thought ROS would be able to win, but TNT wouldn't allow that, especially with Castro who is already back. Last season they struggled since Pogoy needed to rest, and Castro was out, but now they are complete and healthy, so they are expected to make it to the playoffs.


That has been their kind of play, they focus more on offense that's why they have a lot of attempts outside. Maybe because they don't have a dominant big man so they try to utilize more their advantage, and that is the outside shooting. They have the quickness especially with Castro being the PG, that would really help them alot against a team that has a very dominant big man like the SMB, Ginebra, and Magnolia.

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I don't know that Nambatac was already with the Blackwater.

Nambatac leads Blackwater past Meralco

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OACH Jeff Cariaso was expecting Rey Nambatac to make an immediate impact on his new Blackwater team.

The former Rain or Shine guard did not disappoint, racking up a double-double and leading the Bossing to a 96-93 escape over Meralco Wednesday at the start of the PBA Season 48 Philippine Cup at the Ynares Center in Antipolo.

Nambatac finished with 27 points and a career-high 10 assists and laced his sterling performance with a defensive rebound in the dying seconds that prevented the Bolts from completing their fightback from a 67-86 deficit.


Not only Nambatac but also James Yap, both came from Rain or Shine and are now making this young Blackwater team exciting to watch. Hopefully, they'll be able to continue their good start. After all, this is an all-Filipino Cup, so they can showcase their skills to match the best in the PBA or the giant teams. According to reports, fans are eager to watch even during practice just to see James Yap, so that's the kind of champ he brings to the team.

Tomorrow we have 2 games.

DYIP vs Converge and Northport vs NLEX. (These are good match ups, no team here that is heavy favored, so we will be having a hard time to choose)
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February 29, 2024, 11:27:56 AM
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I don't know that Nambatac was already with the Blackwater.

Nambatac leads Blackwater past Meralco

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OACH Jeff Cariaso was expecting Rey Nambatac to make an immediate impact on his new Blackwater team.

The former Rain or Shine guard did not disappoint, racking up a double-double and leading the Bossing to a 96-93 escape over Meralco Wednesday at the start of the PBA Season 48 Philippine Cup at the Ynares Center in Antipolo.

Nambatac finished with 27 points and a career-high 10 assists and laced his sterling performance with a defensive rebound in the dying seconds that prevented the Bolts from completing their fightback from a 67-86 deficit.


Not only Nambatac but also James Yap, both came from Rain or Shine and are now making this young Blackwater team exciting to watch. Hopefully, they'll be able to continue their good start. After all, this is an all-Filipino Cup, so they can showcase their skills to match the best in the PBA or the giant teams. According to reports, fans are eager to watch even during practice just to see James Yap, so that's the kind of champ he brings to the team.
That's what he can contribute to the team, although he'll only be playing with limited minutes due to his age, but at least he can get the attention of the fans and would help the team and the league to attract more fans to watch.

On his debut which his team won, he played over 12 minutes and score 5 points, not bad because it was 2-5 shooting.


Tomorrow we have 2 games.

DYIP vs Converge and Northport vs NLEX. (These are good match ups, no team here that is heavy favored, so we will be having a hard time to choose)

Well, we have to check the spread on this first. But if I will decide now, I'll choose Converge and NLEX, might even parlay it.

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February 29, 2024, 02:07:28 PM
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Regarding the ROS vs TNT, what a win, Clarito sink the last shot for the win.


Pogoy, Oftana, Aurin, and Castro were the top performers. This guy Aurin is the new name, he is getting the trust, he could be a starter in the long run.
The key to that win is because they were sharing the ball very well. And their 3-point shooting percentage is high; they hit 40% in that game. It was a close game, and I thought ROS would be able to win, but TNT wouldn't allow that, especially with Castro who is already back. Last season they struggled since Pogoy needed to rest, and Castro was out, but now they are complete and healthy, so they are expected to make it to the playoffs.


That has been their kind of play, they focus more on offense that's why they have a lot of attempts outside. Maybe because they don't have a dominant big man so they try to utilize more their advantage, and that is the outside shooting. They have the quickness especially with Castro being the PG, that would really help them alot against a team that has a very dominant big man like the SMB, Ginebra, and Magnolia.

Well, if they are like the Warriors, it will be risky if their shots are not falling. They better be flexible and make the right adjustments depending on their opponents. If they face the SMB, which also has a lot of great 3 point shooters, and their 2nd unit is very deadly, I doubt they'll last 7 games in a series.

They were successful against ROS because they shot 40% from the 3point area, but can they duplicate that against SMB or Magnolia, the teams that played in the Finals last season?

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February 29, 2024, 03:29:05 PM
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Just the same thing over and over, if there's a rumor we might notice changes from how the player play the game, maybe there's already a negotiation between him and boss Al' as we noticed how good he was with CTC's system, maybe chances to get his service for the Brgy might be possible, good replacement for LA in case he choose to retire and focus with his coaching career.

Playing with SMB, if that's a trade, who would they trade for Chris Newsome? It would be easier for him if he transferred to the sister team of Meralco, which is TNT. I think they need someone like him, someone who can play defense, as TNT isn't known for being particularly defensive; they tend to focus on running the ball and shooting from outside. Anyway, let's wait for the development of that rumor. Currently, it's TNT vs ROS, and the game is almost tied after the first half, with the score at 51-50, ROS taking a 1 point lead.

Observing how he played the game seems that you are right he's fit with how coach Chot play his system more on running and dribbling the ball, Newsome can penetrate and just drop the ball to whoever open shooters like Poguy and Oftana, maybe they can trade montalbo and bring Newsome in, since that it's  a sister companies they can make it work, as we know how MVP and SMC can just twist the rules inside PBA just a call away and comm. Marcial will approve it.

Kidding aside, we just need to wait for the development of this possible trade, maybe they if ever that MVP and SMC will cross trade players it's possible to have a 3-way deal which may include Tau from SMB and a player from GSM to take Newsome from Meralco, just assuming if they'll going to push this possible trade.

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February 29, 2024, 06:01:08 PM
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They were successful against ROS because they shot 40% from the 3point area, but can they duplicate that against SMB or Magnolia, the teams that played in the Finals last season?

That was not even a question as TNT's main offense is mostly on 3 3-point area.

Regardless of who's their opponent, they will just attempt to drain 3s.

On the other hand, teams like SMB and Magnolia are also doing well in that area aside from the fact they can also dominate the shaded area.

The better question would be if TNT can keep up with SMB or Magnolia since they are lacking a dominant and steady local big man. The All-Filipino Cup brings many disadvantages to most teams in the league as outside that conference, imports mostly cover the big man position.

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They were successful against ROS because they shot 40% from the 3point area, but can they duplicate that against SMB or Magnolia, the teams that played in the Finals last season?

That was not even a question as TNT's main offense is mostly on 3 3-point area.

Regardless of who's their opponent, they will just attempt to drain 3s.

That's the strategy that they will never change as they work hard on their 3-point shooting to win. Like they said, they are the GSW in the PBA, so just like the Warriors, they'll make more attempts outside as that's their strenght. Well, I guess TNT will just have to improve their shooting so they can beat the powerhouse PBA teams.

On the other hand, teams like SMB and Magnolia are also doing well in that area aside from the fact they can also dominate the shaded area.

The better question would be if TNT can keep up with SMB or Magnolia since they are lacking a dominant and steady local big man. The All-Filipino Cup brings many disadvantages to most teams in the league as outside that conference, imports mostly cover the big man position.

SMB doesn't have the consistency as we had witnessed during the PBA finals. When their outside shooting struggles, they lose, so it will be a battle of who is better outside if they face each other, and the better team will win the game. It's too early, though; let's just see how these teams will play without an import.

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Just the same thing over and over, if there's a rumor we might notice changes from how the player play the game, maybe there's already a negotiation between him and boss Al' as we noticed how good he was with CTC's system, maybe chances to get his service for the Brgy might be possible, good replacement for LA in case he choose to retire and focus with his coaching career.

Playing with SMB, if that's a trade, who would they trade for Chris Newsome? It would be easier for him if he transferred to the sister team of Meralco, which is TNT. I think they need someone like him, someone who can play defense, as TNT isn't known for being particularly defensive; they tend to focus on running the ball and shooting from outside. Anyway, let's wait for the development of that rumor. Currently, it's TNT vs ROS, and the game is almost tied after the first half, with the score at 51-50, ROS taking a 1 point lead.

Observing how he played the game seems that you are right he's fit with how coach Chot play his system more on running and dribbling the ball, Newsome can penetrate and just drop the ball to whoever open shooters like Poguy and Oftana, maybe they can trade montalbo and bring Newsome in, since that it's  a sister companies they can make it work, as we know how MVP and SMC can just twist the rules inside PBA just a call away and comm. Marcial will approve it.

Montalbo alone may not be enough to get Newsome. A real trade would require at least two players of Montalbo's skills in exchange for Newsome; there should be one that will be traded too to get Newsome. This is just a rumor, but soon we will know the full story. For now, let's keep the discussion on the current team. As we've witnessed in the opening, TNT got their first win, but Meralco started with a 0.

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Kidding aside, we just need to wait for the development of this possible trade, maybe they if ever that MVP and SMC will cross trade players it's possible to have a 3-way deal which may include Tau from SMB and a player from GSM to take Newsome from Meralco, just assuming if they'll going to push this possible trade.
Tau hasn't been an asset with the SMB, so they might just let him go. I haven't seen Manuel playing with the team anymore, but if he gets back healthy, I believe he is better than Tau as he has some mid range game too aside from his attack inside the paint.

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Looks like farm teams are having a great start. In their opening, Blackwater beat the Bolts, and now it's the DYIP that beat Converge. My bet lost, and I have to double that on the next game. With that said, I'm betting on the Road Warriors to win by -2.5.

I'm also interested on betting the over 203.5 ( no push that way). And,... Northport over 102.5

Good luck guys, have a great evening. Game will start at 7;30 pm/

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Looks like farm teams are having a great start. In their opening, Blackwater beat the Bolts, and now it's the DYIP that beat Converge. My bet lost, and I have to double that on the next game. With that said, I'm betting on the Road Warriors to win by -2.5.

I'm also interested on betting the over 203.5 ( no push that way). And,... Northport over 102.5

Good luck guys, have a great evening. Game will start at 7;30 pm/

We're witnessing a very entertaining game now between these two. NLEX started strong, but Northport was able to have a good run, and now they are only trailing by 1 point. As for the total points of this game, the pregame odds are still almost the same, so that's fun since it's still in the 3rd quarter, and there's a chance that in the 4th quarter they'll score more due to a possible increase in fouls committed, as it's a close game. If this game goes to OT, that would be a huge bonus for the over.

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Looks like farm teams are having a great start. In their opening, Blackwater beat the Bolts, and now it's the DYIP that beat Converge. My bet lost, and I have to double that on the next game. With that said, I'm betting on the Road Warriors to win by -2.5.

I'm also interested on betting the over 203.5 ( no push that way). And,... Northport over 102.5

Good luck guys, have a great evening. Game will start at 7;30 pm/

We're witnessing a very entertaining game now between these two. NLEX started strong, but Northport was able to have a good run, and now they are only trailing by 1 point. As for the total points of this game, the pregame odds are still almost the same, so that's fun since it's still in the 3rd quarter, and there's a chance that in the 4th quarter they'll score more due to a possible increase in fouls committed, as it's a close game. If this game goes to OT, that would be a huge bonus for the over.

Already in the 4th quarter now, and it's now Northport that is leading the game, but it's still a manageable lead. So yes, OT is possible here, and the over will hit easily. Enjoy the action, guys, as this All-Filipino is also entertaining to watch. By the way, I have my bet on Northport here, and I'm happy with what I'm seeing so far. Hopefully, it will not change, but I cannot be sure here since there's still plenty of time.

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Last edit: March 01, 2024, 02:04:24 PM by Japinat
 #13118

Looks like farm teams are having a great start. In their opening, Blackwater beat the Bolts, and now it's the DYIP that beat Converge. My bet lost, and I have to double that on the next game. With that said, I'm betting on the Road Warriors to win by -2.5.

I'm also interested on betting the over 203.5 ( no push that way). And,... Northport over 102.5

Good luck guys, have a great evening. Game will start at 7;30 pm/

We're witnessing a very entertaining game now between these two. NLEX started strong, but Northport was able to have a good run, and now they are only trailing by 1 point. As for the total points of this game, the pregame odds are still almost the same, so that's fun since it's still in the 3rd quarter, and there's a chance that in the 4th quarter they'll score more due to a possible increase in fouls committed, as it's a close game. If this game goes to OT, that would be a huge bonus for the over.

Already in the 4th quarter now, and it's now Northport that is leading the game, but it's still a manageable lead. So yes, OT is possible here, and the over will hit easily. Enjoy the action, guys, as this All-Filipino is also entertaining to watch. By the way, I have my bet on Northport here, and I'm happy with what I'm seeing so far. Hopefully, it will not change, but I cannot be sure here since there's still plenty of time.
And it has changed now. NLEX is now taking the lead, but as you mentioned, it's a close game, and either team could win. Let's have another extra minutes in overtime, why not? This is a good matchup, and we deserve to have fun. But I would always want NLEX to win by at least 3 points.

The over/under now is not certain, please more fouls to come....

Edit : and the game went to OT... I just need a 3 point win now for NLEX.
over  203.5 will win.,   Northport (should be NLEX) over 102.5(although miss typed) will win

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March 01, 2024, 02:20:16 PM
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Looks like farm teams are having a great start. In their opening, Blackwater beat the Bolts, and now it's the DYIP that beat Converge. My bet lost, and I have to double that on the next game. With that said, I'm betting on the Road Warriors to win by -2.5.

I'm also interested on betting the over 203.5 ( no push that way). And,... Northport over 102.5

Good luck guys, have a great evening. Game will start at 7;30 pm/

We're witnessing a very entertaining game now between these two. NLEX started strong, but Northport was able to have a good run, and now they are only trailing by 1 point. As for the total points of this game, the pregame odds are still almost the same, so that's fun since it's still in the 3rd quarter, and there's a chance that in the 4th quarter they'll score more due to a possible increase in fouls committed, as it's a close game. If this game goes to OT, that would be a huge bonus for the over.

Already in the 4th quarter now, and it's now Northport that is leading the game, but it's still a manageable lead. So yes, OT is possible here, and the over will hit easily. Enjoy the action, guys, as this All-Filipino is also entertaining to watch. By the way, I have my bet on Northport here, and I'm happy with what I'm seeing so far. Hopefully, it will not change, but I cannot be sure here since there's still plenty of time.
And it has changed now. NLEX is now taking the lead, but as you mentioned, it's a close game, and either team could win. Let's have another extra minutes in overtime, why not? This is a good matchup, and we deserve to have fun. But I would always want NLEX to win by at least 3 points.

The over/under now is not certain, please more fouls to come....

Edit : and the game went to OT... I just need a 3 point win now for NLEX.
over  203.5 will win.,   Northport (should be NLEX) over 102.5(although miss typed) will win

Nice win! It indeed went to overtime, and NLEX won, covering the spread. The final score is 107-100. The spread was covered, and the team total and the overall total as well. Nice bounce back after losing the first game. Bolick is enjoying his role here with NLEX; he was the best player of the game.

What can we expect from this team this All Filipino Cup? Is their lineup enough to be a playoff team? They have some veterans on the team and good defensive players like Semerad and Anthony, and we know that these two always plays hard on the court, but Bolick should lead the team.

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What can we expect from this team this All Filipino Cup? Is their lineup enough to be a playoff team? They have some veterans on the team and good defensive players like Semerad and Anthony, and we know that these two always plays hard on the court, but Bolick should lead the team.

Though they manage to win the game but in terms of being playoff competitive agaisnt SMC teams who are very dominant, not sure if NLEX have that enough firepower to compete against Gin kings,SMB and Magnolia, especially that we are in the all filipino cup where no reinforcement to carry the load, though it's still too early to conclude and the ball always round, upset can still happen here.

I agree that Berto should be back to his original place, carrying a team is not new to him, he can do it as long as the coach and his teamates believes in him, he can bring the best on him and try to help winning the game.

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