2024 PBA Governor's Cup

[Kelvinid]

I think this is the second time that Williams and the TNT have negotiated so I don't think that there will ever be third time even if he humbles himself. The problem with him is that, yes this is a livelihood to them but the opportunity that he's getting for that slot of his is being desired by the other players especially the local players that have talent and heart to play the game in the PBA. Well, TNT must just move and forget about him and ask some other players that are okay to be traded to land that slot for him.

I think the word humbled himself does not apply here. It's a negotiation, he set his own price, so it's like take it or leave it. TNT still wants him, so I think they'll up the price so Williams will sign the contract. With this, I think it would help other players to also demand a higher salary as other leagues outside the Philippines are playing well, so maybe Williams will open the eyes of other players that they should also learn how to negotiate aa long as they believe in their talents.

[Viscore]

I think this is the second time that Williams and the TNT have negotiated so I don't think that there will ever be third time even if he humbles himself. The problem with him is that, yes this is a livelihood to them but the opportunity that he's getting for that slot of his is being desired by the other players especially the local players that have talent and heart to play the game in the PBA. Well, TNT must just move and forget about him and ask some other players that are okay to be traded to land that slot for him.

I think the word humbled himself does not apply here. It's a negotiation, he set his own price, so it's like take it or leave it. TNT still wants him, so I think they'll up the price so Williams will sign the contract. With this, I think it would help other players to also demand a higher salary as other leagues outside the Philippines are playing well, so maybe Williams will open the eyes of other players that they should also learn how to negotiate aa long as they believe in their talents.

Aside from setting his own value which I think is just fair. However, I agree with @blockman here that he should humble himself as reportedly he had some problem with his coach before not showing respect, like coming to the practice late, etc.. This kind of behavior should not be tolerated, yes, he has a talent but basketball is not about one person, it's a team effort and therefore chemistry should be created effectively from players, coachhes and staff so they are in one page while on the court, on and off. Or maybe this is just a rumor now as there's been no official statement yet whethere TNT really wants to sign him again.

[blockman]

I think this is the second time that Williams and the TNT have negotiated so I don't think that there will ever be third time even if he humbles himself. The problem with him is that, yes this is a livelihood to them but the opportunity that he's getting for that slot of his is being desired by the other players especially the local players that have talent and heart to play the game in the PBA. Well, TNT must just move and forget about him and ask some other players that are okay to be traded to land that slot for him.

I think the word humbled himself does not apply here. It's a negotiation, he set his own price, so it's like take it or leave it. TNT still wants him, so I think they'll up the price so Williams will sign the contract. With this, I think it would help other players to also demand a higher salary as other leagues outside the Philippines are playing well, so maybe Williams will open the eyes of other players that they should also learn how to negotiate aa long as they believe in their talents.

We have to wait and see. It seems that you're right that TNT is dying hard to take him but most of us are telling that they shouldn't take him anymore and just move on and leave him if there are any other takers of his own set price. There is no more salary cap on the PBA because most of them have their own demands and great salary offer that has been maxed out and even more than the suggested price and cap of the league. If there is a B League offer for him, he should take that away quickly.

[Fredomago]

I think this is the second time that Williams and the TNT have negotiated so I don't think that there will ever be third time even if he humbles himself. The problem with him is that, yes this is a livelihood to them but the opportunity that he's getting for that slot of his is being desired by the other players especially the local players that have talent and heart to play the game in the PBA. Well, TNT must just move and forget about him and ask some other players that are okay to be traded to land that slot for him.

I think the word humbled himself does not apply here. It's a negotiation, he set his own price, so it's like take it or leave it. TNT still wants him, so I think they'll up the price so Williams will sign the contract. With this, I think it would help other players to also demand a higher salary as other leagues outside the Philippines are playing well, so maybe Williams will open the eyes of other players that they should also learn how to negotiate aa long as they believe in their talents.

We have to wait and see. It seems that you're right that TNT is dying hard to take him but most of us are telling that they shouldn't take him anymore and just move on and leave him if there are any other takers of his own set price. There is no more salary cap on the PBA because most of them have their own demands and great salary offer that has been maxed out and even more than the suggested price and cap of the league. If there is a B League offer for him, he should take that away quickly.

Yeah right, if this demand from William will take place then chances that each players who believes that they deserve more can just imitate what he did and demand for the price they want, let's wait and see if how this drama will ends up, if William's and TNT will close the negotiation and what will be the outcome, with how TNT is aiming to hire his service, the chance that there are lots of under the table price to cover only the max price but the demand contract might be deal behind the close door.

We all know that players who deserves more take it from the under the table deals, I mean they will sign a max contract but there are more behind that, additional perks that being negotiated outside that sign contracts.

[Kelvinid]

Yeah right, if this demand from William will take place then chances that each players who believes that they deserve more can just imitate what he did and demand for the price they want, let's wait and see if how this drama will ends up, if William's and TNT will close the negotiation and what will be the outcome, with how TNT is aiming to hire his service, the chance that there are lots of under the table price to cover only the max price but the demand contract might be deal behind the close door.

We all know that players who deserves more take it from the under the table deals, I mean they will sign a max contract but there are more behind that, additional perks that being negotiated outside that sign contracts.

If that's a way to keep them stay, why not. Before, players are looking to play with the PBA as it's the biggest league in the country, however, due to big indifferences of salaries, some choose to play abroad and that means we are missing an entertaining player to watch. So if this action of Williams will open the eyes of the team owners, then maybe they'll start paying competitive salaries and that would solve the problem of the PBA that they are facing now.

I'm referring to problem of attendance as during regular season, the venue are not even 50% of the capacity, it will only attract crowd if Ginebra will play in the FInals, without them, it will be a dull one.

[Fredomago]

Yeah right, if this demand from William will take place then chances that each players who believes that they deserve more can just imitate what he did and demand for the price they want, let's wait and see if how this drama will ends up, if William's and TNT will close the negotiation and what will be the outcome, with how TNT is aiming to hire his service, the chance that there are lots of under the table price to cover only the max price but the demand contract might be deal behind the close door.

We all know that players who deserves more take it from the under the table deals, I mean they will sign a max contract but there are more behind that, additional perks that being negotiated outside that sign contracts.

If that's a way to keep them stay, why not. Before, players are looking to play with the PBA as it's the biggest league in the country, however, due to big indifferences of salaries, some choose to play abroad and that means we are missing an entertaining player to watch. So if this action of Williams will open the eyes of the team owners, then maybe they'll start paying competitive salaries and that would solve the problem of the PBA that they are facing now.

I'm referring to problem of attendance as during regular season, the venue are not even 50% of the capacity, it will only attract crowd if Ginebra will play in the FInals, without them, it will be a dull one.

I agree to that, if what's happening right now can give some chance for quality players to demands  their salaries and the team and the league will see the possibilities that it will help the league in terms of fans attendance,  I mean  if the team will adjust to what players are asking and not just these two giant companies but all the teams that inside pba will also be included, there's a big chance  that competition will be on another higher level, which what the fans wants and not just a single team like ginebra who can bring fans interest.

It will be back from how the fans supported their idols and will be willing to pay for the tickets and cheer for their teams,  I missed those years when it's not just ginebra  but also Alaska , Shell,  Purefoods and Sta Lucia  teams that really bring the level of excitement for each fans who loves this  support .

[Japinat]

Good news for this coach.

Phoenix coach Jamike Jarin signed to a three-year contract extension


Good for him, his team had an impressive run last governor's cup, they reach the Semi Finals and their import won an award on that. But we can't deny that he is really a good coach as although his team is lack of experience but they were able to give Magnolia a real challenge, it's just unfortunate that they fail to reach the finals, however, reaching that far is already big.

[Maslate]

..it clearly shows that Coverge doesn't play defense, no wonder they are at the bottom now.

On the other hand, even though there's a defense, Magnolia is just draining every shot at every field. With a 52% percentage shooting they did, it means they are having hot hands that night that even well defended, their shots are draining every time.

Besides, I don't expect Converge to shine at the All-local Conference. They are clear to be eliminated after the regular games ended.

They are usually seen as competitive only during import conferences. I hope they can snipe a good import in the next import conference.

Converge is really not the same anymore ever since they let Ahamnissi ang Jeron Teng go. And there's a rumor that coach Ayo will be replace soon. I don't know if there can still make something to make this team competitive, because even if they have a good coach but the lack of quality players is the major problem I see in this team.

It was a good start but after they let Teng and Ahamnissi its obvious that they are  not here to compete,  it's an easy negotiation with players who can provide decent numbers,  most of the good teams are willing to pay the price just to keep their competitiveness and have that chance winning the game, but it was different with how Converge doing it now, they are just playing to continue their stay from the league but in terms of trying to reach the finals there's no trace from the management to increase their chances, and with rumors that coach Ayo will be replaced it adds up to the point  that  they might be a part now of a farming team.

There's possibility that they will only become a farm team, with their quality of players, it's not gonna compete with the good roster of the strong teams, their 2nd unit might even be better than the main unit of the converge. See the 2nd unit of SMB, they have Teng, Romeo, Trollano, Tautuaa, and Jericho Cruz I guess.. So, we see the difference, and if SMB could afford this kind of quality players, how can a converge them would be able to compete with them.

People may criticize SMB for not following the salary cap ( if there's any), but we can always criticize theses so called farm teams for not being able to come up with a required budget to pay based on standard salary.

[Questat]

..it clearly shows that Coverge doesn't play defense, no wonder they are at the bottom now.

On the other hand, even though there's a defense, Magnolia is just draining every shot at every field. With a 52% percentage shooting they did, it means they are having hot hands that night that even well defended, their shots are draining every time.

Besides, I don't expect Converge to shine at the All-local Conference. They are clear to be eliminated after the regular games ended.

They are usually seen as competitive only during import conferences. I hope they can snipe a good import in the next import conference.

Converge is really not the same anymore ever since they let Ahamnissi ang Jeron Teng go. And there's a rumor that coach Ayo will be replace soon. I don't know if there can still make something to make this team competitive, because even if they have a good coach but the lack of quality players is the major problem I see in this team.

It was a good start but after they let Teng and Ahamnissi its obvious that they are  not here to compete,  it's an easy negotiation with players who can provide decent numbers,  most of the good teams are willing to pay the price just to keep their competitiveness and have that chance winning the game, but it was different with how Converge doing it now, they are just playing to continue their stay from the league but in terms of trying to reach the finals there's no trace from the management to increase their chances, and with rumors that coach Ayo will be replaced it adds up to the point  that  they might be a part now of a farming team.

There's possibility that they will only become a farm team, with their quality of players, it's not gonna compete with the good roster of the strong teams, their 2nd unit might even be better than the main unit of the converge. See the 2nd unit of SMB, they have Teng, Romeo, Trollano, Tautuaa, and Jericho Cruz I guess.. So, we see the difference, and if SMB could afford this kind of quality players, how can a converge them would be able to compete with them.

People may criticize SMB for not following the salary cap ( if there's any), but we can always criticize theses so called farm teams for not being able to come up with a required budget to pay based on standard salary.

As if we don't know what's happening within the PBA. If we are looking for a league that is fair then that should not be the PBA. Some of the players have criticized the way it was manage. I mean, why get a team to be part of the league if they aren't competiting anymore. I would understand that a team would struggle as that's normal, even Ginebra have struggled before they sign coach Tim, but these teams like DYIP or KIA and Blackwater has always been struggling, season after season like there's no improvement at all, they even get worst, and now there's converge which was suppose to be a good team since the players were alaska players that was bought by converge.

[Fredomago]

..it clearly shows that Coverge doesn't play defense, no wonder they are at the bottom now.

On the other hand, even though there's a defense, Magnolia is just draining every shot at every field. With a 52% percentage shooting they did, it means they are having hot hands that night that even well defended, their shots are draining every time.

Besides, I don't expect Converge to shine at the All-local Conference. They are clear to be eliminated after the regular games ended.

They are usually seen as competitive only during import conferences. I hope they can snipe a good import in the next import conference.

Converge is really not the same anymore ever since they let Ahamnissi ang Jeron Teng go. And there's a rumor that coach Ayo will be replace soon. I don't know if there can still make something to make this team competitive, because even if they have a good coach but the lack of quality players is the major problem I see in this team.

It was a good start but after they let Teng and Ahamnissi its obvious that they are  not here to compete,  it's an easy negotiation with players who can provide decent numbers,  most of the good teams are willing to pay the price just to keep their competitiveness and have that chance winning the game, but it was different with how Converge doing it now, they are just playing to continue their stay from the league but in terms of trying to reach the finals there's no trace from the management to increase their chances, and with rumors that coach Ayo will be replaced it adds up to the point  that  they might be a part now of a farming team.

There's possibility that they will only become a farm team, with their quality of players, it's not gonna compete with the good roster of the strong teams, their 2nd unit might even be better than the main unit of the converge. See the 2nd unit of SMB, they have Teng, Romeo, Trollano, Tautuaa, and Jericho Cruz I guess.. So, we see the difference, and if SMB could afford this kind of quality players, how can a converge them would be able to compete with them.

People may criticize SMB for not following the salary cap ( if there's any), but we can always criticize theses so called farm teams for not being able to come up with a required budget to pay based on standard salary.

As if we don't know what's happening within the PBA. If we are looking for a league that is fair then that should not be the PBA. Some of the players have criticized the way it was manage. I mean, why get a team to be part of the league if they aren't competiting anymore. I would understand that a team would struggle as that's normal, even Ginebra have struggled before they sign coach Tim, but these teams like DYIP or KIA and Blackwater has always been struggling, season after season like there's no improvement at all, they even get worst, and now there's converge which was suppose to be a good team since the players were alaska players that was bought by converge.

They choose to be a part of a farm team I guess  they don't want to waste  money and instead  they are using their participation to free for something that benefits their business,  while also gaining something from the higher franchise,  as we know how the management works and how the league governors and commissioner are working alongside to make it legal.

There's nothing fans can do to push the league to bring back those old glory they will just go with the flow and accept anything that will be offer and keep it the way it is now.

[Kelvinid]

They choose to be a part of a farm team I guess  they don't want to waste  money and instead  they are using their participation to free for something that benefits their business,  while also gaining something from the higher franchise,  as we know how the management works and how the league governors and commissioner are working alongside to make it legal.

There's nothing fans can do to push the league to bring back those old glory they will just go with the flow and accept anything that will be offer and keep it the way it is now.

They are in the PBA to advertise their company, but PBA is not getting a good feedback from the people, so I don't think it will work. But as they say, good or bad publicity, it still is a publicity, so maybe it will work. However, for a real fan like us, we like to see this old league to grow and be competitive, but it will not happen if monopoly within is very strong, they need to eliminate that and that will only happen if they'll add more teams and eliminate the farm teams.

[AbuBhakar]

They choose to be a part of a farm team I guess  they don't want to waste  money and instead  they are using their participation to free for something that benefits their business,  while also gaining something from the higher franchise,  as we know how the management works and how the league governors and commissioner are working alongside to make it legal.

There's nothing fans can do to push the league to bring back those old glory they will just go with the flow and accept anything that will be offer and keep it the way it is now.

They are in the PBA to advertise their company, but PBA is not getting a good feedback from the people, so I don't think it will work. But as they say, good or bad publicity, it still is a publicity, so maybe it will work. However, for a real fan like us, we like to see this old league to grow and be competitive, but it will not happen if monopoly within is very strong, they need to eliminate that and that will only happen if they'll add more teams and eliminate the farm teams.

PBA has the worst fan based that makes it not profitable anymore for new team especially small to gain attention on this league. If your team is not Ginebra definitely you are just wasting money on this league. Most of the Filipino preferred the known team such as Ginebra and SMB while the rest is just another brand. Unlike on NBA, they have the support per state that’s why there’s a loyal fan base created based on the team location.

PBA has no future if they keep doing the same pattern like before because only big brand like San Miguel and MVP are the only companies benefiting on it. MPBL should gain more support and better to have the name of PBA because it’s the league that has a balance fan base. This Ginebra and other companies should just sponsors MPBL team and create the real PBA.

[Kelvinid]

They choose to be a part of a farm team I guess  they don't want to waste  money and instead  they are using their participation to free for something that benefits their business,  while also gaining something from the higher franchise,  as we know how the management works and how the league governors and commissioner are working alongside to make it legal.

There's nothing fans can do to push the league to bring back those old glory they will just go with the flow and accept anything that will be offer and keep it the way it is now.

They are in the PBA to advertise their company, but PBA is not getting a good feedback from the people, so I don't think it will work. But as they say, good or bad publicity, it still is a publicity, so maybe it will work. However, for a real fan like us, we like to see this old league to grow and be competitive, but it will not happen if monopoly within is very strong, they need to eliminate that and that will only happen if they'll add more teams and eliminate the farm teams.

PBA has the worst fan based that makes it not profitable anymore for new team especially small to gain attention on this league. If your team is not Ginebra definitely you are just wasting money on this league. Most of the Filipino preferred the known team such as Ginebra and SMB while the rest is just another brand. Unlike on NBA, they have the support per state that’s why there’s a loyal fan base created based on the team location.

PBA has no future if they keep doing the same pattern like before because only big brand like San Miguel and MVP are the only companies benefiting on it. MPBL should gain more support and better to have the name of PBA because it’s the league that has a balance fan base. This Ginebra and other companies should just sponsors MPBL team and create the real PBA.

I think even SMB are wasting money also due to the expenses they are paying for the venue and the players.

See how much they are spending for the team, and I'm not sure they are really getting the returns expected.

SAN Miguel Corp. head Ramon S. Ang revealed the conglomerate spends P1 billion annually for its three PBA teams San Miguel Beer, Magnolia, and Barangay Ginebra.

In a wide-ranging interview with veteran journalist Anthony Taberna, Ang admitted it was the high cost of running the three ballclubs that prompted him to recommend ceasing the company's basketball operations more than once, the last time during the pandemic.

RSA says SMC spends P1 billion annually for PBA teams' operation

[Fredomago]

They choose to be a part of a farm team I guess  they don't want to waste  money and instead  they are using their participation to free for something that benefits their business,  while also gaining something from the higher franchise,  as we know how the management works and how the league governors and commissioner are working alongside to make it legal.

There's nothing fans can do to push the league to bring back those old glory they will just go with the flow and accept anything that will be offer and keep it the way it is now.

They are in the PBA to advertise their company, but PBA is not getting a good feedback from the people, so I don't think it will work. But as they say, good or bad publicity, it still is a publicity, so maybe it will work. However, for a real fan like us, we like to see this old league to grow and be competitive, but it will not happen if monopoly within is very strong, they need to eliminate that and that will only happen if they'll add more teams and eliminate the farm teams.

PBA has the worst fan based that makes it not profitable anymore for new team especially small to gain attention on this league. If your team is not Ginebra definitely you are just wasting money on this league. Most of the Filipino preferred the known team such as Ginebra and SMB while the rest is just another brand. Unlike on NBA, they have the support per state that’s why there’s a loyal fan base created based on the team location.

PBA has no future if they keep doing the same pattern like before because only big brand like San Miguel and MVP are the only companies benefiting on it. MPBL should gain more support and better to have the name of PBA because it’s the league that has a balance fan base. This Ginebra and other companies should just sponsors MPBL team and create the real PBA.

I think even SMB are wasting money also due to the expenses they are paying for the venue and the players.

See how much they are spending for the team, and I'm not sure they are really getting the returns expected.

SAN Miguel Corp. head Ramon S. Ang revealed the conglomerate spends P1 billion annually for its three PBA teams San Miguel Beer, Magnolia, and Barangay Ginebra.

In a wide-ranging interview with veteran journalist Anthony Taberna, Ang admitted it was the high cost of running the three ballclubs that prompted him to recommend ceasing the company's basketball operations more than once, the last time during the pandemic.

RSA says SMC spends P1 billion annually for PBA teams' operation

What I understand before teams are willing to spend money to promote their business as PBA got a wide range of scope but with how PBA is doing right now, I don't know if how Boss RSA manage to recover the amount that he's spending for his 3 or maybe more companies inside the league, I mean maybe as farm teams are also been rumors that he already got a control behind, I guess aside from promotions there are money making business that being produce, maybe with those many gambling sites that being offered and with those rumors about game fixing we really can't tell if those big bosses are also involve with gambling.

But, like what the post above you, there's nothing to expect if the concept continue like this, only 2 big campanies will benefits and will compete with the title.

Unless, another franchise will try to compete but I'm not sure if how they can throw money like the way Boss RSA and MVP's doing right now.

[Maslate]

I guess aside from promotions there are money making business that being produce, maybe with those many gambling sites that being offered and with those rumors about game fixing we really can't tell if those big bosses are also involve with gambling.

This will put the reputation of Ramon Ang at risk and I doubt the will do that. Game fixing if it's present  in the PBA, then we can say that those who are in control of the PBA are making big money from it, and I think 1 Billion monthly income is just too easy considering the league is already popular that could gather bets outside in the Philippines as well.

I don't know if how he is related to atong Ang, but his operation before which is the E Sabong, he is making a 3 billion pesos monthly income. (GROSS).
And the market is only within the Philippines, how much more this PBA games.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1563433/atong-angs-e-sabong-firm-earns-p3-b-gross-income-per-month-senators-learn

[Japinat]

I guess aside from promotions there are money making business that being produce, maybe with those many gambling sites that being offered and with those rumors about game fixing we really can't tell if those big bosses are also involve with gambling.

This will put the reputation of Ramon Ang at risk and I doubt the will do that. Game fixing if it's present  in the PBA, then we can say that those who are in control of the PBA are making big money from it, and I think 1 Billion monthly income is just too easy considering the league is already popular that could gather bets outside in the Philippines as well.

I don't know if how he is related to atong Ang, but his operation before which is the E Sabong, he is making a 3 billion pesos monthly income. (GROSS).
And the market is only within the Philippines, how much more this PBA games.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1563433/atong-angs-e-sabong-firm-earns-p3-b-gross-income-per-month-senators-learn

Did you guys watch the PBA all star?

Me, I have no time to watch but I just browse on the news and found out that the 3 point contest was already over.

And guess who the winner is... Its Calvin my man,,, not Abueva but Oftana.

https://pba.ph/news/oftana-man-of-moment-in-three-point-shootout

BACOLOD -- Calvin Oftana graced the 2024 PBA All-Star festivities presented by Arena Plus with a great display of long-distance shooting, blowing away Paul Lee's title repeat bid and marking his own rise as three-point champ at the University of St. La Salle Gym here Saturday.

Oftana barely made the championship round with 22 points in the elims but waxed hot with the title on the line, bombing away 25 to beat Lee (20) and Chris Newsome (15), and becoming the third TNT player to win the three-point shootout after Jimmy Alapag and Renren Ritualo.

Here's the final round highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ-ETal8-M4

[Fredomago]

I guess aside from promotions there are money making business that being produce, maybe with those many gambling sites that being offered and with those rumors about game fixing we really can't tell if those big bosses are also involve with gambling.

This will put the reputation of Ramon Ang at risk and I doubt the will do that. Game fixing if it's present  in the PBA, then we can say that those who are in control of the PBA are making big money from it, and I think 1 Billion monthly income is just too easy considering the league is already popular that could gather bets outside in the Philippines as well.

I don't know if how he is related to atong Ang, but his operation before which is the E Sabong, he is making a 3 billion pesos monthly income. (GROSS).
And the market is only within the Philippines, how much more this PBA games.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1563433/atong-angs-e-sabong-firm-earns-p3-b-gross-income-per-month-senators-learn

Did you guys watch the PBA all star?

Me, I have no time to watch but I just browse on the news and found out that the 3 point contest was already over.

And guess who the winner is... Its Calvin my man,,, not Abueva but Oftana.

https://pba.ph/news/oftana-man-of-moment-in-three-point-shootout

BACOLOD -- Calvin Oftana graced the 2024 PBA All-Star festivities presented by Arena Plus with a great display of long-distance shooting, blowing away Paul Lee's title repeat bid and marking his own rise as three-point champ at the University of St. La Salle Gym here Saturday.

Oftana barely made the championship round with 22 points in the elims but waxed hot with the title on the line, bombing away 25 to beat Lee (20) and Chris Newsome (15), and becoming the third TNT player to win the three-point shootout after Jimmy Alapag and Renren Ritualo.

Here's the final round highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ-ETal8-M4

I also didn't watch the game thanks for the update and I'm expecting him as he's really a legit outside shooter a good grasp of the ball his follow thru is really nice to watch, he's a promising star TNT needs to find help for him, the very reason why they are still aiming for Mikey as pairing this two young stars will form another competitive squad considering Poguy still doing a good damage a three man scorers who can really bring something for the team, just a sets of good roles players especially a good big man for the rotation, by the way congrats for those who bet for him I on't know if there's available odd for this but if in case there was.

[goaldigger]

I guess aside from promotions there are money making business that being produce, maybe with those many gambling sites that being offered and with those rumors about game fixing we really can't tell if those big bosses are also involve with gambling.

This will put the reputation of Ramon Ang at risk and I doubt the will do that. Game fixing if it's present  in the PBA, then we can say that those who are in control of the PBA are making big money from it, and I think 1 Billion monthly income is just too easy considering the league is already popular that could gather bets outside in the Philippines as well.

I don't know if how he is related to atong Ang, but his operation before which is the E Sabong, he is making a 3 billion pesos monthly income. (GROSS).
And the market is only within the Philippines, how much more this PBA games.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1563433/atong-angs-e-sabong-firm-earns-p3-b-gross-income-per-month-senators-learn

This is why there’s a big politics in PBA because they are being controlled by billionaires and with this, many speculations about fixing game especially a top teams losing to its sister team. Well, what can we expect from PBA officials, they are just running the system without having any stand with their rules and regulations. Let’s just enjoy watching the games and just bet if you think its a safe one and not a fixed game.

[Distinctin]

..it clearly shows that Coverge doesn't play defense, no wonder they are at the bottom now.

On the other hand, even though there's a defense, Magnolia is just draining every shot at every field. With a 52% percentage shooting they did, it means they are having hot hands that night that even well defended, their shots are draining every time.

Besides, I don't expect Converge to shine at the All-local Conference. They are clear to be eliminated after the regular games ended.

They are usually seen as competitive only during import conferences. I hope they can snipe a good import in the next import conference.

Converge is really not the same anymore ever since they let Ahamnissi ang Jeron Teng go. And there's a rumor that coach Ayo will be replace soon. I don't know if there can still make something to make this team competitive, because even if they have a good coach but the lack of quality players is the major problem I see in this team.

It was a good start but after they let Teng and Ahamnissi its obvious that they are  not here to compete,  it's an easy negotiation with players who can provide decent numbers,  most of the good teams are willing to pay the price just to keep their competitiveness and have that chance winning the game, but it was different with how Converge doing it now, they are just playing to continue their stay from the league but in terms of trying to reach the finals there's no trace from the management to increase their chances, and with rumors that coach Ayo will be replaced it adds up to the point  that  they might be a part now of a farming team.

People would understand if when they let Teng and Ahamnissi  they also have added some players with the same quality of the players they let go. Thing now is different, they are playing like an undermanned team, so when they didn't even look like a championship when the two was still in the team, now they should look like the same team in the farm division. 

I don't know what would happen to this team but adding to the list of farm terms affects the reputation the league more. and nowadays, with the social media platforms, people could hear some rumors against the league that they might be disappointed.

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People would understand if when they let Teng and Ahamnissi  they also have added some players with the same quality of the players they let go. Thing now is different, they are playing like an undermanned team, so when they didn't even look like a championship when the two was still in the team, now they should look like the same team in the farm division. 

Yup, better when they let both players they've used their cap to hire decent players who can really provide them the lift and continue being a contender, but instead they just let them go and continue playing with what is left for them, just playing without any chance of winning the game.

Same with your assessment with the current roster, they might be weaker than those known farm teams.

I don't know what would happen to this team but adding to the list of farm terms affects the reputation the league more. and nowadays, with the social media platforms, people could hear some rumors against the league that they might be disappointed.

Indeed, but the show must continue, even if they add themselve to the famr team list, no effects for the league officiating officials, as long as they are recieving their paychecks the league will proceed.