2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Russlenat]

Big line movement for SMB. From -6.5, currently it's -8. ROS has a decent lineup also, so it's really hard to decide if we would think that SMB will win \

I could not say no to this line movement, it simply tells that SMB is gonna win, maybe on a huge margin. SMB has a lot of players that could defend the ROS import, not sure if whom they'll put to minimize the output of SMB's import who scored 44 points last game. It's a quarter finals game, I expect this game to be a physical game, so I'm also leaning on the under.

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

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[Finestream]

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

Too bad you lose your bet. At one point, it looks like SMB are gonna win via blowout, and then the 4th quarter comes and SMB stop playing defense. After dominating the ROS in the 3rd quarter, they put their guard down in the 4th quarter allowing a 33-18 score in favor of the ROS.

It was an 8 point lead with few seconds remaining, it could have result to a "push", but ROS took the last shot with a 3 point shot, and bang! 5 point win only. Even the early line which is -6.5 for SMB wasn't miss. 

[Hypnosis00]

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

Too bad you lose your bet. At one point, it looks like SMB are gonna win via blowout, and then the 4th quarter comes and SMB stop playing defense. After dominating the ROS in the 3rd quarter, they put their guard down in the 4th quarter allowing a 33-18 score in favor of the ROS.

It was an 8 point lead with few seconds remaining, it could have result to a "push", but ROS took the last shot with a 3 point shot, and bang! 5 point win only. Even the early line which is -6.5 for SMB wasn't miss. 

Can that happen again in the 2nd game?

Ginebra is up 20 points after the first half,  the spread was -8.5, so northport needs to come back in the 3rd quarter, or at least make it a close quarter so if they can't come back in the 3rd, there's still a 4th quarter for them to cover the spread. I'm thinking of some rigged show right now, but hopefully it's not the case in this game.

[Maslate]

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

Too bad you lose your bet. At one point, it looks like SMB are gonna win via blowout, and then the 4th quarter comes and SMB stop playing defense. After dominating the ROS in the 3rd quarter, they put their guard down in the 4th quarter allowing a 33-18 score in favor of the ROS.

It was an 8 point lead with few seconds remaining, it could have result to a "push", but ROS took the last shot with a 3 point shot, and bang! 5 point win only. Even the early line which is -6.5 for SMB wasn't miss. 

Can that happen again in the 2nd game?

Ginebra is up 20 points after the first half,  the spread was -8.5, so northport needs to come back in the 3rd quarter, or at least make it a close quarter so if they can't come back in the 3rd, there's still a 4th quarter for them to cover the spread. I'm thinking of some rigged show right now, but hopefully it's not the case in this game.

I think it's too obvious if they'll do the same pattern. And by the looks of the game now which is Ginebra is enjoying a 21 points lead, there's no way Northport will be able to comeback since they also miss their best local player which is Tolentino. There's still plenty of time, but when Ginebra is up this big, I don't anymore expect that their opponents will be able to come back, even losing on a single digit points.

[mirakal]

I think it's too obvious if they'll do the same pattern. And by the looks of the game now which is Ginebra is enjoying a 21 points lead, there's no way Northport will be able to comeback since they also miss their best local player which is Tolentino. There's still plenty of time, but when Ginebra is up this big, I don't anymore expect that their opponents will be able to come back, even losing on a single digit points.

Almost, if Northport were able to make their shots, they could cover the handicap as they are +8.5, so an 8 point win by Ginebra is enough for the bettors of Northport to win. I think the closest Northport had was 10 point deficit in the 4th quarter with few minutes remaining, if they were able to make one shot and Ginebra opt not to shoot the game, lots of bettors will cry.

So it's even, 1 for underdog and 1 for favorites that covered the spread.

Next game will be this Sunday, it's a do or die game for Meralco vs Phoenix. I think Meralco will win here as no MVP teams had advance in the quarter finals, reaching the semi finals probably their best chance only and it's going to be SMB teams in the Finals.

[Fredomago]

Just to be clear, I have SMB -8.

Too bad you lose your bet. At one point, it looks like SMB are gonna win via blowout, and then the 4th quarter comes and SMB stop playing defense. After dominating the ROS in the 3rd quarter, they put their guard down in the 4th quarter allowing a 33-18 score in favor of the ROS.

It was an 8 point lead with few seconds remaining, it could have result to a "push", but ROS took the last shot with a 3 point shot, and bang! 5 point win only. Even the early line which is -6.5 for SMB wasn't miss. 

I use to remember Mambatac before when he made that last shot in the dying seconds of the game, he was been threaten by those fans who lose their bets, I hope we won't hear another kind of a situation like this as it was already a good lead for those early birds who manage to take that -6.5 handicap but that last shot it ruined everything.

I think it's too obvious if they'll do the same pattern. And by the looks of the game now which is Ginebra is enjoying a 21 points lead, there's no way Northport will be able to comeback since they also miss their best local player which is Tolentino. There's still plenty of time, but when Ginebra is up this big, I don't anymore expect that their opponents will be able to come back, even losing on a single digit points.

Almost, if Northport were able to make their shots, they could cover the handicap as they are +8.5, so an 8 point win by Ginebra is enough for the bettors of Northport to win. I think the closest Northport had was 10 point deficit in the 4th quarter with few minutes remaining, if they were able to make one shot and Ginebra opt not to shoot the game, lots of bettors will cry.

So it's even, 1 for underdog and 1 for favorites that covered the spread.

Next game will be this Sunday, it's a do or die game for Meralco vs Phoenix. I think Meralco will win here as no MVP teams had advance in the quarter finals, reaching the semi finals probably their best chance only and it's going to be SMB teams in the Finals.

Good thing for Gin kings handicappers, as NP missed the shot if that happen and repeat the same situation that rumors of manipulation may appear again, luckily it did not and like what you said, one underdog and one favorite who covered the handicap.

[Sanitough]

I use to remember Mambatac before when he made that last shot in the dying seconds of the game, he was been threaten by those fans who lose their bets, I hope we won't hear another kind of a situation like this as it was already a good lead for those early birds who manage to take that -6.5 handicap but that last shot it ruined everything.

I don't know if there's a points quotient in that conference, because if there is, that shot he took was valid. Bettors will get angry because they lose; that's normal. However, a player getting threatened is already stupid. As we all know, PBA players are not allowed to gamble, so let's assume that they don't care about the spread or they don't have an idea about it, so they can do whatever they want.

Good thing for Gin kings handicappers, as NP missed the shot if that happen and repeat the same situation that rumors of manipulation may appear again, luckily it did not and like what you said, one underdog and one favorite who covered the handicap.

That would be 2 in a row if they allow that to happen. I believe there could be some rig but not in every game, otherwise, that league's reputation will go down the sink.

Next game will be this Sunday, it's a do or die game for Meralco vs Phoenix. I think Meralco will win here as no MVP teams had advance in the quarter finals, reaching the semi finals probably their best chance only and it's going to be SMB teams in the Finals.

That's interesting. However, I've seen what I have to see already and I believe Phoenix could not stand in this do or die game after the momentum shifted to the Meralco Bolts, They are a better closer, they don't panic, so I doubt Phoenix will even start to lead a double digit this game.

[Fredomago]

I use to remember Mambatac before when he made that last shot in the dying seconds of the game, he was been threaten by those fans who lose their bets, I hope we won't hear another kind of a situation like this as it was already a good lead for those early birds who manage to take that -6.5 handicap but that last shot it ruined everything.

I don't know if there's a points quotient in that conference, because if there is, that shot he took was valid. Bettors will get angry because they lose; that's normal. However, a player getting threatened is already stupid. As we all know, PBA players are not allowed to gamble, so let's assume that they don't care about the spread or they don't have an idea about it, so they can do whatever they want.

That's a normal reaction indeed, bettors who lose their bets have that emotion to threaten that player who rigged thier bets, it's not the intention of the player it's just so happen that he took that shot and luckily it went in, nothing in his mind that he's doing anything that may affect the gambling industry, just doing his job as a player, that's my take on that situation.

Good thing for Gin kings handicappers, as NP missed the shot if that happen and repeat the same situation that rumors of manipulation may appear again, luckily it did not and like what you said, one underdog and one favorite who covered the handicap.

That would be 2 in a row if they allow that to happen. I believe there could be some rig but not in every game, otherwise, that league's reputation will go down the sink.

We can all speculate and assume that there's rigged but proving it is another thing, so easy to say that when you lose your bet something happened or a manipulation take place, but there's nothing that you can do about the outcome, you just need to move forward and try to improve your knowledge about how the bet should be pick and decide.

[Distinctin]

Betting odds for the last game of the quarter finals is out. Tomorrow at 6:30 PM is the game, so don't miss this one.

I think we have the same line like in their first game, currently it's -4 for Meralco. Phoenix blew their best chance of winning, so I guess it will be tough for them to win here. But with the spread, I'm not sure if they'll cover that since Phoenix aren't giving up easily, so it could be a close game and Phoenix might cover if they lose.

Last game Perkins didn't play full minutes due to cramp I think, hopefully he'll come back healthy in this very special game. And for the Meralco, they might miss Hodge due to a possible sprain ankle.

[mirakal]

currently it's -4 for Meralco.

Very tricky line, opened up -4, move up to -5 now back to -3.5. I'm not sure what's happenning here but I'm ready to back on the Meralco Bolts which is the only team for MVP in this quarter finals. If they'll win, they'll face the Magnolia hotspots,  while on the other side, it's SMB vs Ginebra (tough match up).

Good luck to all of you, There's still plenty of time though, game start at 6:30 PM, so we have 2 hours and 30 minutes to think.

I hope first 5 players are ready to play, this is a do or die game so they can't make an excuses, playing with inury is necessary as long as they can help their team to win.

[Distinctin]

currently it's -4 for Meralco.

Very tricky line, opened up -4, move up to -5 now back to -3.5. I'm not sure what's happenning here but I'm ready to back on the Meralco Bolts which is the only team for MVP in this quarter finals. If they'll win, they'll face the Magnolia hotspots,  while on the other side, it's SMB vs Ginebra (tough match up).

Good luck to all of you, There's still plenty of time though, game start at 6:30 PM, so we have 2 hours and 30 minutes to think.

Just a little movement it's hard to interprete it. I would just go with the team that I think will win and this time I think it's Meralco. Although as usual, Phoenix is taking the lead but as long as it's manageable, I still trust Meralco in finishing the game with a win.

I hope first 5 players are ready to play, this is a do or die game so they can't make an excuses, playing with inury is necessary as long as they can help their team to win.

I saw hodge and Perkins on the floor, so yes it's a complete line up and for sure they'll be battling down to the wire. Enjoy the evening as it's just one game, after this we will proceed to the semi finals.

[mirakal]

I hope first 5 players are ready to play, this is a do or die game so they can't make an excuses, playing with inury is necessary as long as they can help their team to win.

I saw hodge and Perkins on the floor, so yes it's a complete line up and for sure they'll be battling down to the wire. Enjoy the evening as it's just one game, after this we will proceed to the semi finals.

Another bad start for Meralco, just like the first game, they were down a double digit. Can they continue the trend and win the 2nd half. I am still hopeful with my bet, I'm hoping Meralco would be able to come back in the 3rd quarter and will make it a single digit deficit, or much better if they'll take the lead after the 3rd quarter so we will have a very good last quarter to watch.

Meralco's outside shooting is not sinking, it looks like they are hesitant unlike the Phoenix who are confident to shoot and attack. I hope the right adjustments will be made for this interesting 3rd quarter to come.

[Fredomago]

I hope first 5 players are ready to play, this is a do or die game so they can't make an excuses, playing with inury is necessary as long as they can help their team to win.

I saw hodge and Perkins on the floor, so yes it's a complete line up and for sure they'll be battling down to the wire. Enjoy the evening as it's just one game, after this we will proceed to the semi finals.

Another bad start for Meralco, just like the first game, they were down a double digit. Can they continue the trend and win the 2nd half. I am still hopeful with my bet, I'm hoping Meralco would be able to come back in the 3rd quarter and will make it a single digit deficit, or much better if they'll take the lead after the 3rd quarter so we will have a very good last quarter to watch.

Meralco's outside shooting is not sinking, it looks like they are hesitant unlike the Phoenix who are confident to shoot and attack. I hope the right adjustments will be made for this interesting 3rd quarter to come.

Unfortunately, Bolts were unable to manage to complete the rally in the last quarter. They managed to close the gap, but the fuelmaster managed to escape and move forward to the semis. It will be a game between them and Magnolia, which for sure will earn the heavy favorite here,

another sure place for SMC group, while there's no MVP who, most of the time, has been set up for the finals' appearance. Both SMB and Gin Kings got their own super squads. It's a game now of good executions and good selection of blended players inside the court.

[Natalim]

I hope first 5 players are ready to play, this is a do or die game so they can't make an excuses, playing with inury is necessary as long as they can help their team to win.

I saw hodge and Perkins on the floor, so yes it's a complete line up and for sure they'll be battling down to the wire. Enjoy the evening as it's just one game, after this we will proceed to the semi finals.

Another bad start for Meralco, just like the first game, they were down a double digit. Can they continue the trend and win the 2nd half. I am still hopeful with my bet, I'm hoping Meralco would be able to come back in the 3rd quarter and will make it a single digit deficit, or much better if they'll take the lead after the 3rd quarter so we will have a very good last quarter to watch.

Meralco's outside shooting is not sinking, it looks like they are hesitant unlike the Phoenix who are confident to shoot and attack. I hope the right adjustments will be made for this interesting 3rd quarter to come.

Unfortunately, Bolts were unable to manage to complete the rally in the last quarter. They managed to close the gap, but the fuelmaster managed to escape and move forward to the semis. It will be a game between them and Magnolia, which for sure will earn the heavy favorite here,

They can't win if they will only come back in the 4th quarter. I think it's the Meralco's import who is not as good as their last imports. Meralco was more on defense but they forgot their offense, if not because of Maliksi's 3 point shooting, they won't be able to come back. One thing I also notice is their rebounding, they lack of energy compared to the Phoenix who really work hard on the paint, and grab some rebounds.

another sure place for SMC group, while there's no MVP who, most of the time, has been set up for the finals' appearance. Both SMB and Gin Kings got their own super squads. It's a game now of good executions and good selection of blended players inside the court.

Phoenix may advance in the semi finals but I doubt they'll pass through the Magnolia Hotshots. Magnolia is more phyisical than the Meralco, they have a better import and they are moving the ball well, so their offense is not dry.

I think it will be Magnolia vs SMB/Ginebra in the Finals.

[Russlenat]

Phoenix may advance in the semi finals but I doubt they'll pass through the Magnolia Hotshots. Magnolia is more phyisical than the Meralco, they have a better import and they are moving the ball well, so their offense is not dry.

That's a real challenge for them but they are already successful reaching in the semi finals as they don't usually qualify at this level. It's usually the MVP vs SMB teams that will advance, but they beat Meralco so they deserve to be in this spot.

I think it will be Magnolia vs SMB/Ginebra in the Finals.

Magnolia that's guaranteed, their pesky defense are not gonna put Phoenix on exemption. And one this is sure, we will see a low scoring game here as it will be physical throughout the series. I not sure how effective Perkins will be but they need him to do some extra work.

[Fredomago]

Phoenix may advance in the semi finals but I doubt they'll pass through the Magnolia Hotshots. Magnolia is more phyisical than the Meralco, they have a better import and they are moving the ball well, so their offense is not dry.

That's a real challenge for them but they are already successful reaching in the semi finals as they don't usually qualify at this level. It's usually the MVP vs SMB teams that will advance, but they beat Meralco so they deserve to be in this spot.

Indeed, moving to the semis was an achievement already, seeing some social media post regarding a x3 bonus for the players and the rest of the management being awarded to everyone after beating Meralco. Not sure, but it's been a long competition between SMC and MVP during the finals, and now, Fuel master will take their chances, they just need to work more and show everything that they've got against the top seeded Magnolia..

I think it will be Magnolia vs SMB/Ginebra in the Finals.

Magnolia that's guaranteed, their pesky defense are not gonna put Phoenix on exemption. And one this is sure, we will see a low scoring game here as it will be physical throughout the series. I not sure how effective Perkins will be but they need him to do some extra work.

Perkins against Abreva. Both are expected to show some extra work here. Let's see how these two spark plugs will boost their respective teams. I like to see how Phoenix will break that tough defense of Magnolia and try to win the game, while on Magnolia's side, it's just another ordinary game for them,  where they are best at both defense and offense, teamwork as always.

[Kelvinid]

Perkins against Abreva. Both are expected to show some extra work here. Let's see how these two spark plugs will boost their respective teams. I like to see how Phoenix will break that tough defense of Magnolia and try to win the game, while on Magnolia's side, it's just another ordinary game for them,  where they are best at both defense and offense, teamwork as always.

That will be a good match up but how about the teammates of Perkins, they are still young and inexperience so I don't think they'll even be competitive aginst the Magnolia Hotspots. One of the reason why the Phoenix won is their good ball movement that leads to great open looks in the 3 point area, but against Magnolia, I doubt it will happen.

Import vs import match up is good, both are tall and hard working but the advantage is on Magnolia since Phoenix import are not good free throw shooter, and that could be exploited in this season. Not sure if it's a best of 7 or best of 5, but I think Phoenix will be lucky to win a game.

[Russlenat]

Not sure if it's a best of 7 or best of 5, but I think Phoenix will be lucky to win a game.

It's a best of 5 series, and you can verify that on their website. https://pba.ph/
Don't forget that tomorrow will be the first game of the semi finals, we have the double header, Phoenix vs Magnolia on first game and SMB vs Ginebra on the 2nd game.

As for the betting lines, as of this writing, we have as follows.

1-Phoenix +9.5
2-Ginebra +1.5

Good thing they put the Ginebra vs SMB on the 2nd game which will start at 8:00 PM. That looks like a championship game and I think whoever wins that series will become the champion as they will be tested very well, unlike the Magnolia vs Phoenix series which for sure will only be a one sided beat down.

[blockman]

Not sure if it's a best of 7 or best of 5, but I think Phoenix will be lucky to win a game.

It's a best of 5 series, and you can verify that on their website. https://pba.ph/
Don't forget that tomorrow will be the first game of the semi finals, we have the double header, Phoenix vs Magnolia on first game and SMB vs Ginebra on the 2nd game.

Yes, it's just a best of 5 series for both Phoenix vs Magnolia and SMB vs Ginebra. All of the schedules are there until Sunday and basically three games for both brackets will be done. SMB and Ginebra is for sure going to have a lot of crowd even this is just a semi finals. And both sister companies are going to fight for moving to the finals while their other sister against Fuel Masters. It's basically three SMB companies on the semi finals and it is going to surprise a lot of fans if Fuel Masters will take this championship. 

[Fredomago]

Not sure if it's a best of 7 or best of 5, but I think Phoenix will be lucky to win a game.

It's a best of 5 series, and you can verify that on their website. https://pba.ph/
Don't forget that tomorrow will be the first game of the semi finals, we have the double header, Phoenix vs Magnolia on first game and SMB vs Ginebra on the 2nd game.

Yes, it's just a best of 5 series for both Phoenix vs Magnolia and SMB vs Ginebra. All of the schedules are there until Sunday and basically three games for both brackets will be done. SMB and Ginebra is for sure going to have a lot of crowd even this is just a semi finals. And both sister companies are going to fight for moving to the finals while their other sister against Fuel Masters. It's basically three SMB companies on the semi finals and it is going to surprise a lot of fans if Fuel Masters will take this championship. 

That's also the scenario that I'm going to say, what if fuelmaster will manage to move forward and eventually win a tittle, though stats wise they are still young compared with Magnolia and in every aspects Magnolia have that advantages, let see if how they will try everything to move up and escape the top seeder  then try another luck to win against the heavy favorite either SMB or Ginebra  which is another difficult team to compete with.

A matter  of pride  for all SMC franchises,  though nothing is impossible especially inside PBA but let just enjoy the game and see what the team will deliver during this semi finals  matches.