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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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May 12, 2024, 09:03:14 AM
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Yeah, for sure coach Yeng feels that way knowing him in terms of being emotional they are fighting in the first half but lapses in the 2nd half and just allow TNT to dominates them and counter everything that they are trying to do, it's  a big adjusment that they need if they want to prolong the series, else, it's their final game if they'll lose again in their 2nd meet up.

Congrats kabayan! solid game night for Gin kings, Mags unable to find ways to counter ginebra's attack easy ML to you!

Thanks bro.

For tonight's game i will bet for TNT as i think the Tropang Giga will still beat the wards of coach Yeng Guiao even if the latter will make some adjustments. After tonight, the series will be over and the ML odds for TNT is attractive as the odds is even.

TNT ML @1.89 vs ROS

Good luck to us guys and bet wisely.

You are lucky you get that odds. I was able to bet on TNT but got the -4.5 spread for them. It's currently a close game, TNT is even trailing by 2 points entering the 4th quarter, but there's always a run in basketball, hopefully TNT will have a big run in the 4th quarter so they'll be able to cover the spread.

The missing link here is Oftana, he is pretty limited with single digit score only, I'm hoping for a big 4th quarter game, especially his 3 point shooting.

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May 12, 2024, 09:42:14 AM
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Yeah, for sure coach Yeng feels that way knowing him in terms of being emotional they are fighting in the first half but lapses in the 2nd half and just allow TNT to dominates them and counter everything that they are trying to do, it's  a big adjusment that they need if they want to prolong the series, else, it's their final game if they'll lose again in their 2nd meet up.

Congrats kabayan! solid game night for Gin kings, Mags unable to find ways to counter ginebra's attack easy ML to you!

Thanks bro.

For tonight's game i will bet for TNT as i think the Tropang Giga will still beat the wards of coach Yeng Guiao even if the latter will make some adjustments. After tonight, the series will be over and the ML odds for TNT is attractive as the odds is even.

TNT ML @1.89 vs ROS

Good luck to us guys and bet wisely.

You are lucky you get that odds. I was able to bet on TNT but got the -4.5 spread for them. It's currently a close game, TNT is even trailing by 2 points entering the 4th quarter, but there's always a run in basketball, hopefully TNT will have a big run in the 4th quarter so they'll be able to cover the spread.

The missing link here is Oftana, he is pretty limited with single digit score only, I'm hoping for a big 4th quarter game, especially his 3 point shooting.

Still not lucky at all as ROS were able to even the series. That's true, Oftana was really the missing link as he lead in game 1 and now he is very limited. It seems like ROS figure out how to defend him already and now they got the win. So let's proceed to the next game, the spread is very close because it's just -1.5 Meralco, will NLEX even the series or will their journey ends tonight? What's the verdict here guys?

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May 12, 2024, 02:27:40 PM
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So let's proceed to the next game, the spread is very close because it's just -1.5 Meralco, will NLEX even the series or will their journey ends tonight? What's the verdict here guys?

I am late with my reply but I bet on Meralco to win. It's even getting worst in game 2 for the NLEX as they are completely dominated by the Bolts. A 19 point victory for the Bolts because of a very good teamwork. Bolts had 6 players with double digit, and shooting as high as 49% although they struggled from beyond the arc.

Bollick only scored 18 points compared to 40+ points in the last game, so I guess it's way better for NLEX to just let Bollick take the load and lead the team in scoring as their chance is quite better although they still loss.

Won by -1.5 bet and won my under 182.5 bet. I was thinking that that 182.5 under bet would already loss after witnessing the first 2 quarters, but luckily, they bring down their scoring especially in the 4th where they only score 35 points in total.


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May 12, 2024, 04:16:32 PM
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Yeah, for sure coach Yeng feels that way knowing him in terms of being emotional they are fighting in the first half but lapses in the 2nd half and just allow TNT to dominates them and counter everything that they are trying to do, it's  a big adjusment that they need if they want to prolong the series, else, it's their final game if they'll lose again in their 2nd meet up.

Congrats kabayan! solid game night for Gin kings, Mags unable to find ways to counter ginebra's attack easy ML to you!

Thanks bro.

For tonight's game i will bet for TNT as i think the Tropang Giga will still beat the wards of coach Yeng Guiao even if the latter will make some adjustments. After tonight, the series will be over and the ML odds for TNT is attractive as the odds is even.

TNT ML @1.89 vs ROS

Good luck to us guys and bet wisely.

You are lucky you get that odds. I was able to bet on TNT but got the -4.5 spread for them. It's currently a close game, TNT is even trailing by 2 points entering the 4th quarter, but there's always a run in basketball, hopefully TNT will have a big run in the 4th quarter so they'll be able to cover the spread.

The missing link here is Oftana, he is pretty limited with single digit score only, I'm hoping for a big 4th quarter game, especially his 3 point shooting.

Still not lucky at all as ROS were able to even the series. That's true, Oftana was really the missing link as he lead in game 1 and now he is very limited. It seems like ROS figure out how to defend him already and now they got the win. So let's proceed to the next game, the spread is very close because it's just -1.5 Meralco, will NLEX even the series or will their journey ends tonight? What's the verdict here guys?

ROS manage to play good defense and rotates the ball well, most players who played for them got double digits and they bring the level of competitions to the next level, good passing and good decisioning in taking closer shots, and like you both mentioned, they manage to limit the production of one of the stars of TNT, Poguy can't carry it alone, the productions of Oftana is needed here, though they tried to work it out but seems that ROS got a good answer and really shows good adjustments, final game for these two teams only one can move forward and continue the chase for the title, good luck and congrats for those who manage to make money from this game,.

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May 13, 2024, 11:23:36 AM
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ROS manage to play good defense and rotates the ball well, most players who played for them got double digits and they bring the level of competitions to the next level, good passing and good decisioning in taking closer shots, and like you both mentioned, they manage to limit the production of one of the stars of TNT, Poguy can't carry it alone, the productions of Oftana is needed here, though they tried to work it out but seems that ROS got a good answer and really shows good adjustments, final game for these two teams only one can move forward and continue the chase for the title, good luck and congrats for those who manage to make money from this game,.

Very good match up, I bet on TNT that time so I loss my bet but I would say that ROS is deserving for that win. They'll have days to rest and think of a strategy in game 3 because it's a very crucial match. No more the blur for the team, like the old castro who can carry the team, it's now Pugoy and Oftana show, but these two needs to have a good production, not only one of them.

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May 13, 2024, 12:53:38 PM
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ROS manage to play good defense and rotates the ball well, most players who played for them got double digits and they bring the level of competitions to the next level, good passing and good decisioning in taking closer shots, and like you both mentioned, they manage to limit the production of one of the stars of TNT, Poguy can't carry it alone, the productions of Oftana is needed here, though they tried to work it out but seems that ROS got a good answer and really shows good adjustments, final game for these two teams only one can move forward and continue the chase for the title, good luck and congrats for those who manage to make money from this game,.

Very good match up, I bet on TNT that time so I loss my bet but I would say that ROS is deserving for that win. They'll have days to rest and think of a strategy in game 3 because it's a very crucial match. No more the blur for the team, like the old castro who can carry the team, it's now Pugoy and Oftana show, but these two needs to have a good production, not only one of them.

I guess it's time to bet on them again in game 3. It's the final game between them so TNT is not gonna give that spot easily. Although the ROS already had the momentum but every game there's always an adjustment to be made, and AFAIR this season so far, TNT have already made the right adjustment the next game every time they loss. Castro may not be the same person again because he is already old, but he can be  so helpful in the crucial minutes, so they should not be tired, and that will only happen if the young stars will have a good game in the early quarters.

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May 14, 2024, 07:18:39 AM
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I guess it's time to bet on them again in game 3. It's the final game between them so TNT is not gonna give that spot easily. Although the ROS already had the momentum but every game there's always an adjustment to be made, and AFAIR this season so far, TNT have already made the right adjustment the next game every time they loss. Castro may not be the same person again because he is already old, but he can be  so helpful in the crucial minutes, so they should not be tired, and that will only happen if the young stars will have a good game in the early quarters.

It's just funny though that i have not won a game on this series, I bet for ROS on the first game then TNT won and bet on TNT on the second game then ROS won. For me the hungrier team will won on thjis series and i think that ROS so i will be backing on ROS on their next game.

Aside from ROS and TNT duel, we also have an exciting game to watch. Let us see if Terrafirma could duplicate their win against the number 1 seed SMB Beermen. Though i love to see Terrafirma win but for sure SMB will be adjusting on their second game and it's gonna be hard for Terrafirma to duplicate their win.

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I guess it's time to bet on them again in game 3. It's the final game between them so TNT is not gonna give that spot easily. Although the ROS already had the momentum but every game there's always an adjustment to be made, and AFAIR this season so far, TNT have already made the right adjustment the next game every time they loss. Castro may not be the same person again because he is already old, but he can be  so helpful in the crucial minutes, so they should not be tired, and that will only happen if the young stars will have a good game in the early quarters.

It's just funny though that i have not won a game on this series, I bet for ROS on the first game then TNT won and bet on TNT on the second game then ROS won. For me the hungrier team will won on thjis series and i think that ROS so i will be backing on ROS on their next game.

Aside from ROS and TNT duel, we also have an exciting game to watch. Let us see if Terrafirma could duplicate their win against the number 1 seed SMB Beermen. Though i love to see Terrafirma win but for sure SMB will be adjusting on their second game and it's gonna be hard for Terrafirma to duplicate their win.

The timing is not good kabayan hahaha, but I agree the hungrier will win as both teams are really trying to do their best to win and move forward, for sure both veterans coaches will find the best adjustments for this final do-or-die game, both are equally balance on offense and defense so for sure key players will be the factor here, if the core players will play big and the chemstries of each players inside the court will be balance, that team will pump and wins it.

On the other side, just if in case that Terrafirma will upset the super heavyweight SMB, that's something that will be remembered, I use to remember that time when Gary "The Bomb" David upset the super heavyweight B-Meg the time when Big game James is dominating the league, is it possible to repeat that scenario? that's something to watch out if by Luck and by destiny an upset like this will happen again.

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I guess it's time to bet on them again in game 3. It's the final game between them so TNT is not gonna give that spot easily. Although the ROS already had the momentum but every game there's always an adjustment to be made, and AFAIR this season so far, TNT have already made the right adjustment the next game every time they loss. Castro may not be the same person again because he is already old, but he can be  so helpful in the crucial minutes, so they should not be tired, and that will only happen if the young stars will have a good game in the early quarters.

It's just funny though that i have not won a game on this series, I bet for ROS on the first game then TNT won and bet on TNT on the second game then ROS won. For me the hungrier team will won on thjis series and i think that ROS so i will be backing on ROS on their next game.

Aside from ROS and TNT duel, we also have an exciting game to watch. Let us see if Terrafirma could duplicate their win against the number 1 seed SMB Beermen. Though i love to see Terrafirma win but for sure SMB will be adjusting on their second game and it's gonna be hard for Terrafirma to duplicate their win.

I guess the winning team has the momentum, so I agree with you that ROS is the right bet for next game. TNT hasn't been so solid this season, they have some inconsistency in some games, so this might not be a good season for them and ROS after a long time will advance in the semi.

Based on the interview on CJ, he said that this team has gotten stronger already, because before when they'll face the DYIP, they'll just say "matic", which means they know they can easily beat the team, but now it's quite different, so this last game should not be miss.

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Based on the interview on CJ, he said that this team has gotten stronger already, because before when they'll face the DYIP, they'll just say "matic", which means they know they can easily beat the team, but now it's quite different, so this last game should not be miss.

I really doubt this honestly, all of the sudden this farm team will get better? I think there's something wrong with the officiating, you know there has been a rumor that PBA is fixed, so since they know that everyone bet on the SMB in the first game, they manipulate the game so there will be a game 2, but don't fall for that because SMB are going to smash the DYIP in a do or die game.

This opinion of mind is only based on my analysis as a gambler, if you are a fan and not gambling in PBA, pardon me with my opinion.

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Based on the interview on CJ, he said that this team has gotten stronger already, because before when they'll face the DYIP, they'll just say "matic", which means they know they can easily beat the team, but now it's quite different, so this last game should not be miss.

I really doubt this honestly, all of the sudden this farm team will get better? I think there's something wrong with the officiating, you know there has been a rumor that PBA is fixed, so since they know that everyone bet on the SMB in the first game, they manipulate the game so there will be a game 2, but don't fall for that because SMB are going to smash the DYIP in a do or die game.

This opinion of mind is only based on my analysis as a gambler, if you are a fan and not gambling in PBA, pardon me with my opinion.

Well, I guess I'll follow your idea and will bet on the SMB. However, I'm quite not so confident with the spread now which is -10.5, do you think if they'll win they'll be able to cover that high spread. The game will start in less than an hour, it's a do or die for both teams but it would be disappointing if SMB's gonna loss again.

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Based on the interview on CJ, he said that this team has gotten stronger already, because before when they'll face the DYIP, they'll just say "matic", which means they know they can easily beat the team, but now it's quite different, so this last game should not be miss.

I really doubt this honestly, all of the sudden this farm team will get better? I think there's something wrong with the officiating, you know there has been a rumor that PBA is fixed, so since they know that everyone bet on the SMB in the first game, they manipulate the game so there will be a game 2, but don't fall for that because SMB are going to smash the DYIP in a do or die game.

This opinion of mind is only based on my analysis as a gambler, if you are a fan and not gambling in PBA, pardon me with my opinion.

Well, I guess I'll follow your idea and will bet on the SMB. However, I'm quite not so confident with the spread now which is -10.5, do you think if they'll win they'll be able to cover that high spread. The game will start in less than an hour, it's a do or die for both teams but it would be disappointing if SMB's gonna loss again.

So far SMB is dominating though still one more quarter to complete but seems that SMB is answeing whatever attempts Terrafima tried to rally back, it's tough as the main gunner of SMB are all doing the damage, CJ, Abay and TR7 are all in double digits while whoever is entering the court are also adding numbers, if Terrafima will not do the last push during the final quarter for sure that handicap can be cover as SMB might win more than 15 points, just an opinion as we don't really know if what the final quarter will, either SMB will finished it with a dictated outcome, or Terrafima will try to catch and make sure that the distance is not that huge.

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So far SMB is dominating though still one more quarter to complete but seems that SMB is answeing whatever attempts Terrafima tried to rally back, it's tough as the main gunner of SMB are all doing the damage, CJ, Abay and TR7 are all in double digits while whoever is entering the court are also adding numbers, if Terrafima will not do the last push during the final quarter for sure that handicap can be cover as SMB might win more than 15 points, just an opinion as we don't really know if what the final quarter will, either SMB will finished it with a dictated outcome, or Terrafima will try to catch and make sure that the distance is not that huge.

And that's it kabayan, the fairy tale run of Terrafirma has come to an end as the Beermen blew them out in the second half and the SMB Beermen cover the spread of 10.5. Junemar Fajardo exploded in the second half of the game and gave the comfortable lead.

Lost my bet here as I thought that Terrafirma would make this game a close but they don't have an answer to every basket that SMB made in the final two quarters.

The next game is still an interesting game to watch, hope that ROS will take the last semis berth.

edit: ROS off to a good start, scoring 39 points in the first quarter while TNT scored only 22.

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May 15, 2024, 12:42:18 PM
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So far SMB is dominating though still one more quarter to complete but seems that SMB is answeing whatever attempts Terrafima tried to rally back, it's tough as the main gunner of SMB are all doing the damage, CJ, Abay and TR7 are all in double digits while whoever is entering the court are also adding numbers, if Terrafima will not do the last push during the final quarter for sure that handicap can be cover as SMB might win more than 15 points, just an opinion as we don't really know if what the final quarter will, either SMB will finished it with a dictated outcome, or Terrafima will try to catch and make sure that the distance is not that huge.

And that's it kabayan, the fairy tale run of Terrafirma has come to an end as the Beermen blew them out in the second half and the SMB Beermen cover the spread of 10.5. Junemar Fajardo exploded in the second half of the game and gave the comfortable lead.

Lost my bet here as I thought that Terrafirma would make this game a close but they don't have an answer to every basket that SMB made in the final two quarters.
SMB would not allow to lose and they showed why they are the number 1 team and still the best team in the league now. Terrafirma was just lucky in the first game, although they loss they showed that they really an improved team now. The team has a future actually if they are serious in building it, they have the youn talents, hopefully Terrafirma is not anymore a training ground now for big teams.

The next game is still an interesting game to watch, hope that ROS will take the last semis berth.

edit: ROS off to a good start, scoring 39 points in the first quarter while TNT scored only 22.

45-59 ROS> This is a win for the ROS I guess.  Just like in game 2, Oftana is still limited, so I guess ROS will likely win here.

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May 15, 2024, 12:49:09 PM
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45-59 ROS> This is a win for the ROS I guess.  Just like in game 2, Oftana is still limited, so I guess ROS will likely win here.

Don't count them out yet, we still have the 2nd half. I think TNT will not go down without a fight, if there's a chance take the TNT handicap as they might come back and cover the handicap even if they loss the game. 3 point shooting was very bad for TNT, they are only 2-14, and since that is their main weapon, if the struggle continues, they'll loss.

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45-59 ROS> This is a win for the ROS I guess.  Just like in game 2, Oftana is still limited, so I guess ROS will likely win here.

Don't count them out yet, we still have the 2nd half. I think TNT will not go down without a fight, if there's a chance take the TNT handicap as they might come back and cover the handicap even if they loss the game. 3 point shooting was very bad for TNT, they are only 2-14, and since that is their main weapon, if the struggle continues, they'll loss.

Yeah you are right, they really didn't give up and made a big run in the 4th quarter, even bring down the lead to 1 point only but when Pogoy, the TNT have struggled on their offense. It was game full of thrill because the comeback is possible to be completed, but ROS were able to prevent that from happening and beat the TNT by 1 point only.

Final score 110-109/

Kelly Williams 32 points for TNT

Mamuyac 25 points for ROS

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May 15, 2024, 09:38:00 PM
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So far SMB is dominating though still one more quarter to complete but seems that SMB is answeing whatever attempts Terrafima tried to rally back, it's tough as the main gunner of SMB are all doing the damage, CJ, Abay and TR7 are all in double digits while whoever is entering the court are also adding numbers, if Terrafima will not do the last push during the final quarter for sure that handicap can be cover as SMB might win more than 15 points, just an opinion as we don't really know if what the final quarter will, either SMB will finished it with a dictated outcome, or Terrafima will try to catch and make sure that the distance is not that huge.

And that's it kabayan, the fairy tale run of Terrafirma has come to an end as the Beermen blew them out in the second half and the SMB Beermen cover the spread of 10.5. Junemar Fajardo exploded in the second half of the game and gave the comfortable lead.

Lost my bet here as I thought that Terrafirma would make this game a close but they don't have an answer to every basket that SMB made in the final two quarters.

The next game is still an interesting game to watch, hope that ROS will take the last semis berth.

edit: ROS off to a good start, scoring 39 points in the first quarter while TNT scored only 22.

That's the real SMB playing  out there,  they limits the run of Terra and dominated the offense nothing that Terrafima can do as for Abay we know the man when the team needs him he simply do his usual attacks and let the defense collapse,  I do believe that the first game was rigged hahahah just extending the life for Terra and provide more games for bettors to gamble.

Second game, that's a nerve breaking escape after having a comfortable lead TNT manage to rally back and almost snatch the game to coach Yeng, luckily they escaped and will now move forward for the semis.

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May 16, 2024, 04:58:32 AM
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Second game, that's a nerve breaking escape after having a comfortable lead TNT manage to rally back and almost snatch the game to coach Yeng, luckily they escaped and will now move forward for the semis.

ROS are so predictable as they relied so much on outside shooting, I think the same with TNT, and since ROS shoot better in that game, they won the game. What I'm really impress is on how Kelly Williams played that game, he is already 42 years old and still competing very well, can even drive in the paint and score, and that game, he score 3 straight 3 point shots with less than a minute remaining, that's unbelievable.

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Second game, that's a nerve breaking escape after having a comfortable lead TNT manage to rally back and almost snatch the game to coach Yeng, luckily they escaped and will now move forward for the semis.

ROS are so predictable as they relied so much on outside shooting, I think the same with TNT, and since ROS shoot better in that game, they won the game. What I'm really impress is on how Kelly Williams played that game, he is already 42 years old and still competing very well, can even drive in the paint and score, and that game, he score 3 straight 3 point shots with less than a minute remaining, that's unbelievable.

Aside from being a fil-am he's also a former MVP as conditioning both mental and physical may gave him that extra edge from those players who at in his age now, but yeah that's really impressive machine gun Kelly shows his best for sure if they snatch that game he's all in the sports headline bringing that age at the top of his game.

They need additional scorer that's what they are missing right now, I guess if they can't bring Mikey back maybe Chris Newsome might fit with how coach Chot execute his running game attacks.

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May 16, 2024, 06:13:19 AM
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I guess if they can't bring Mikey back maybe Chris Newsome might fit with how coach Chot execute his running game attacks.

The guy would really be a help to the team because he has the talent, unfortunately he demands a lot of money that's why they can't close a contract with him. I guess Newsome would really fit, he is not really a good scorer but he'll be able to improve the defense of the team, so let's see if that will happen since it's possible as he is playing with the sister team. TNT team needs some rebump as this current lineup is not a championship team anymore.

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