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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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January 08, 2024, 12:48:58 PM
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Miller's debut game was 33 points and 22 rebounds. that's a beast of an import.

That's an impressive numbers. For an import to get 22 rebounds in a game, that showed his effort on the floor. This is what the Bolts need,  an all around import that knows how to pass the ball. And 13-24 shooting, that's a decent percentage especially against Magnolia who is known for their high pressure defense.

The missing link for the Magnolia here is Paul Lee, as he was only limited to 4 points, from 1-7 shooting. With that number of attempts, he cannot get going since he is a streaky shooter, that could also mean that defense was very focus on him.

Very low scoring game and both are really focus with defense,  a great  debut for bolts new import like what you mentioned,  an all around player who can work well with the locals, someone who really can provide in all aspects of the game, while with magnolia,  I didn't expect that they will dominated by the bolts especially in the last period, though they tried to rally back but there's no enough  time to complete that attempt.

I think Meralco now has a decent chance of winning a championship. They stick with their brand which is a defensive team and they can also make such good offense with a high percentage shooting. They don't focus a lot on outside shooting, they attack the paint and does have a good ball movement, that's why they are very unpredictable. We've seen what they can do, and that is by beating the number 1 team this season, so we can increase our expectation on this team.

Aside from TNT, Meralco is also the championship contender from MVP's organization. If the main team is not performing well, then they've got this squad to represent them in the playoffs and probably, if my assessment is right, they might be the team to be pushed for the finals. It's been a readable scenario inside PBA.

I'm not sure when is the last time we see both MVP or both SMC team are competing for the finals, though not really concern about that for now, I just like to see how my SMB will perform when both JMF and TR7 are playing healthy.


Meralco went to the Finals during the time fo Durham which is their import, so now that they have a good import, there's a good chance to reach the Finals. As for the TNT, I don't think they will be in the Finals since they are undermanned, losing Pogoy and Williams are huge, plus Jason Castro are not consistently playing with the team, the last time they played, Castro was absent.

So this season or conference, I think it will be only among the 3, Ginebra, SMB, and Meralco. However, if Fajardo will come back, it will be a different story as he is a problem in the paint, in addition, SMB's import are impressive on his first game with 51 points.


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January 09, 2024, 08:07:04 AM
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So this season or conference, I think it will be only among the 3, Ginebra, SMB, and Meralco. However, if Fajardo will come back, it will be a different story as he is a problem in the paint, in addition, SMB's import are impressive on his first game with 51 points.

You forgot to mention the Magnolia Hotspots who is currently the number 1 in standing.

Actually, 3 (SMB teams) and 1 (MVP team) only that will reach to the semis, if Meralco will advance in the Finals, this would make a finals more interesting. And to make the PBA to generate more money again, most likely Ginebra will advance, I don't know how they'll do it, but if JMF isn't 100%, that could happen.

Magnolia is good though, no underestimating them but they don't attract the crowd, it's only Ginebra that could help the PBA to make big money during the Finals.
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January 09, 2024, 10:34:18 AM
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So this season or conference, I think it will be only among the 3, Ginebra, SMB, and Meralco. However, if Fajardo will come back, it will be a different story as he is a problem in the paint, in addition, SMB's import are impressive on his first game with 51 points.

You forgot to mention the Magnolia Hotspots who is currently the number 1 in standing.

Actually, 3 (SMB teams) and 1 (MVP team) only that will reach to the semis, if Meralco will advance in the Finals, this would make a finals more interesting. And to make the PBA to generate more money again, most likely Ginebra will advance, I don't know how they'll do it, but if JMF isn't 100%, that could happen.

Magnolia is good though, no underestimating them but they don't attract the crowd, it's only Ginebra that could help the PBA to make big money during the Finals.

It is just sad to note that PBA is dying in terms of gate attendance and that only leads us to conspire that the commissioner's office is doing its best so that Ginebra will be in the Finals and forgetting the fact that Ginebra is a talented team with a talented import as well hehe.

But i'm going with SMB Beermen here even if Fajardo is not yet 100 percent because also of their import that could back him up in the low post as they already had a lot of guards.
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So this season or conference, I think it will be only among the 3, Ginebra, SMB, and Meralco. However, if Fajardo will come back, it will be a different story as he is a problem in the paint, in addition, SMB's import are impressive on his first game with 51 points.

You forgot to mention the Magnolia Hotspots who is currently the number 1 in standing.

Actually, 3 (SMB teams) and 1 (MVP team) only that will reach to the semis, if Meralco will advance in the Finals, this would make a finals more interesting. And to make the PBA to generate more money again, most likely Ginebra will advance, I don't know how they'll do it, but if JMF isn't 100%, that could happen.

Magnolia is good though, no underestimating them but they don't attract the crowd, it's only Ginebra that could help the PBA to make big money during the Finals.

It is just sad to note that PBA is dying in terms of gate attendance and that only leads us to conspire that the commissioner's office is doing its best so that Ginebra will be in the Finals and forgetting the fact that Ginebra is a talented team with a talented import as well hehe.

But i'm going with SMB Beermen here even if Fajardo is not yet 100 percent because also of their import that could back him up in the low post as they already had a lot of guards.

It's good to see that we have different prediction here. It's just good to know that because it only shows we know PBA so well and we know basketball in general. Ginebra has a chance of getting in the Finals, but without Brownlee, although I must say that they also have a good import, but Brownlee is just different as he had proven himself already bringing the biggest honor to the country in terms of basketball,  he is not only within the league but outside as well since he lead our Gilas team to a championship.

Let's see how this season will end, if Ginebra will take the number 1 spot, then I guess we can trust them even with this new import.

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January 09, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
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So this season or conference, I think it will be only among the 3, Ginebra, SMB, and Meralco. However, if Fajardo will come back, it will be a different story as he is a problem in the paint, in addition, SMB's import are impressive on his first game with 51 points.

You forgot to mention the Magnolia Hotspots who is currently the number 1 in standing.

Actually, 3 (SMB teams) and 1 (MVP team) only that will reach to the semis, if Meralco will advance in the Finals, this would make a finals more interesting. And to make the PBA to generate more money again, most likely Ginebra will advance, I don't know how they'll do it, but if JMF isn't 100%, that could happen.

Magnolia is good though, no underestimating them but they don't attract the crowd, it's only Ginebra that could help the PBA to make big money during the Finals.

It is just sad to note that PBA is dying in terms of gate attendance and that only leads us to conspire that the commissioner's office is doing its best so that Ginebra will be in the Finals and forgetting the fact that Ginebra is a talented team with a talented import as well hehe.

But i'm going with SMB Beermen here even if Fajardo is not yet 100 percent because also of their import that could back him up in the low post as they already had a lot of guards.

It's good to see that we have different prediction here. It's just good to know that because it only shows we know PBA so well and we know basketball in general. Ginebra has a chance of getting in the Finals, but without Brownlee, although I must say that they also have a good import, but Brownlee is just different as he had proven himself already bringing the biggest honor to the country in terms of basketball,  he is not only within the league but outside as well since he lead our Gilas team to a championship.

Let's see how this season will end, if Ginebra will take the number 1 spot, then I guess we can trust them even with this new import.

If ever Gin kings will not be able to reach the finals I'm sure that either SMB or Magnolia will be there,  if it's not for a sister company team I would love to see these two teams to bring back the rivalry, but seems impossible as mentioned above ticket sales is dying PBA needs to secure the finals between SMC and MVP most likely if gin kings will manage to continue winning the chance for the finals still going to happen, they are strong even JBL is not around just need to work as one and have that spirit of never  say die type of games.

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January 10, 2024, 07:06:47 AM
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We have a game coming up, hopefully this will be an exciting one.

Phoenix and Meralco will face off in less than an hour. And as we are all aware, Meralco's import was a kind of a beast on their last outing, he impressed everyone with his debut, so the question now is, can the import of Phoenix minimize his output?

As to the betting lines, Meralco is currently favored at -6. Last time they played, they beat the Magnolia by 5 points.

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January 10, 2024, 07:55:26 AM
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We have a game coming up, hopefully this will be an exciting one.

Phoenix and Meralco will face off in less than an hour. And as we are all aware, Meralco's import was a kind of a beast on their last outing, he impressed everyone with his debut, so the question now is, can the import of Phoenix minimize his output?

As to the betting lines, Meralco is currently favored at -6. Last time they played, they beat the Magnolia by 5 points.

Yeah, this game is an exciting one as the winner will take the solo second place and got the chance to dislodge Magnolia from that number 1 spot.

I'm backing Meralco to win this game as they are fresh from that morale boosting out-of-town win against Magnolia, i just hope that they will cover this -5.5 spread.

Second game is important for NLEX as they had a chance to be in the quarters so that -4.5 spread @1.99 is attractive AFAIC because this is a must win game for them against the already eliminated Converge.
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January 10, 2024, 08:21:05 AM
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We have a game coming up, hopefully this will be an exciting one.

Phoenix and Meralco will face off in less than an hour. And as we are all aware, Meralco's import was a kind of a beast on their last outing, he impressed everyone with his debut, so the question now is, can the import of Phoenix minimize his output?

As to the betting lines, Meralco is currently favored at -6. Last time they played, they beat the Magnolia by 5 points.

Yeah, this game is an exciting one as the winner will take the solo second place and got the chance to dislodge Magnolia from that number 1 spot.

I'm backing Meralco to win this game as they are fresh from that morale boosting out-of-town win against Magnolia, i just hope that they will cover this -5.5 spread.
Good luck to us, I also bet on Meralco but I got the -6 spread. This is should be a fun game as both imports are very dominant, but since we are betting on Meralco, we hope tha they'll win, not only that, they will also cover as well.

-5.5 is probably high for a team that are very close on their standings, but I liked it.


Second game is important for NLEX as they had a chance to be in the quarters so that -4.5 spread @1.99 is attractive AFAIC because this is a must win game for them against the already eliminated Converge.

I'm not betting yet, I'll wait for the outcome of the first game, if I win, then I'll double my bet, but I have not decided yet on what team to bet on.

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Second game is important for NLEX as they had a chance to be in the quarters so that -4.5 spread @1.99 is attractive AFAIC because this is a must win game for them against the already eliminated Converge.

I'm not betting yet, I'll wait for the outcome of the first game, if I win, then I'll double my bet, but I have not decided yet on what team to bet on.

Sorry mate, we lost our first game bet, that first quarter run by the Fuel Masters did the damage for the Bolts. They were outscored by 12 big points in that quarter alone, not a good start for a low-scoring game. Phoenix now owns the solo second place in the standings which I think is the first time in their franchise history if I'm not mistaken.

Anyway, I still have my bet on the second game and it looks like NLEX will win this one (I hope hehe) so I can recover my loss in the first game.
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January 10, 2024, 11:04:50 PM
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Dwight Howard has expressed his interest on joining PBA any time soon as long as the height limit will be modified that allows him to eligible to play. This is actually a good opportunity for the PBA to take the fans interest back and will surely watch the games not just online but live. He also said that Andray is also interested to play on any team. I'm sure that the commissioner and all of the big bosses are considering this. In no doubt that the Converge management has said that it's possible that they may take Dwight on their wing as they're connected to the Strong Group. But I don't think that the PBA management will make it easy as Al is more powerful than them but I hope that this actually happens.

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Dwight Howard has expressed his interest on joining PBA any time soon as long as the height limit will be modified that allows him to eligible to play. This is actually a good opportunity for the PBA to take the fans interest back and will surely watch the games not just online but live. He also said that Andray is also interested to play on any team. I'm sure that the commissioner and all of the big bosses are considering this. In no doubt that the Converge management has said that it's possible that they may take Dwight on their wing as they're connected to the Strong Group. But I don't think that the PBA management will make it easy as Al is more powerful than them but I hope that this actually happens.
It's not going to be a problem for SMC and MVP they've got the money,  and if they see another opportunity if bringing nba stars may bring more ticket attendance then why not,  they can also pay decent star to play for them, it's not going to be tough 😉  though I think it will be a difficult decision for the league of governors and commissioner, there's always pressure behind but it would be wonderful and enjoyable if pba will consider this.

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January 11, 2024, 06:53:50 AM
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Second game is important for NLEX as they had a chance to be in the quarters so that -4.5 spread @1.99 is attractive AFAIC because this is a must win game for them against the already eliminated Converge.

Tough luck mate. NLEX won but short by 1 point to give you that win.  They did play well though but converge are just not giving up although it's already a non bearing game for them AFAIK. Sometime, there are games like this that you get thrilled watching but in the end will break your heart.

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January 11, 2024, 07:03:23 AM
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Dwight Howard has expressed his interest on joining PBA any time soon as long as the height limit will be modified that allows him to eligible to play. This is actually a good opportunity for the PBA to take the fans interest back and will surely watch the games not just online but live. He also said that Andray is also interested to play on any team. I'm sure that the commissioner and all of the big bosses are considering this. In no doubt that the Converge management has said that it's possible that they may take Dwight on their wing as they're connected to the Strong Group. But I don't think that the PBA management will make it easy as Al is more powerful than them but I hope that this actually happens.
It's not going to be a problem for SMC and MVP they've got the money,  and if they see another opportunity if bringing nba stars may bring more ticket attendance then why not,  they can also pay decent star to play for them, it's not going to be tough 😉  though I think it will be a difficult decision for the league of governors and commissioner, there's always pressure behind but it would be wonderful and enjoyable if pba will consider this.

For sure it will happen if they really push to make this things happen and I guess they are planning to do that since they need a huge boast of interest from PBA fans again and Howard is a great piece for them to have that. They should also explore on other more option like getting more popular ex NBA player since for that fans would love to see that great development happening in the league.

Howard hyping pinoy fans is really creating a noise in social media so it will be great for those big companies to ride with it since for sure this will convert to more ticket sells and help to gain back the interest of pinoy crowd.
Let see what happen next to this since for sure they are monitoring how Howard perform on strong group Philippines.

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January 11, 2024, 07:23:16 AM
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Dwight Howard has expressed his interest on joining PBA any time soon as long as the height limit will be modified that allows him to eligible to play. This is actually a good opportunity for the PBA to take the fans interest back and will surely watch the games not just online but live. He also said that Andray is also interested to play on any team. I'm sure that the commissioner and all of the big bosses are considering this. In no doubt that the Converge management has said that it's possible that they may take Dwight on their wing as they're connected to the Strong Group. But I don't think that the PBA management will make it easy as Al is more powerful than them but I hope that this actually happens.
It's not going to be a problem for SMC and MVP they've got the money,  and if they see another opportunity if bringing nba stars may bring more ticket attendance then why not,  they can also pay decent star to play for them, it's not going to be tough 😉  though I think it will be a difficult decision for the league of governors and commissioner, there's always pressure behind but it would be wonderful and enjoyable if pba will consider this.

For sure it will happen if they really push to make this things happen and I guess they are planning to do that since they need a huge boast of interest from PBA fans again and Howard is a great piece for them to have that. They should also explore on other more option like getting more popular ex NBA player since for that fans would love to see that great development happening in the league.

Howard hyping pinoy fans is really creating a noise in social media so it will be great for those big companies to ride with it since for sure this will convert to more ticket sells and help to gain back the interest of pinoy crowd.
Let see what happen next to this since for sure they are monitoring how Howard perform on strong group Philippines.

Yes, Howard knew how good Pinoy fans as we already shown that with JC and now look how great JC after he showcase his talent during those FIBA days, he really get the heart of pinoy fans and that's what Howard is also trying to create, bringing the connection gaining that love, if he will succeed in this strong league and fans will keep calling him and bringing him isnide social media it can create pressure for PBA to listen to what fans will love to see.

We might see more NBA stars and not just those who play for a single season and be forgotten but stars like Howard who manage to create a name during his prime.

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January 11, 2024, 07:47:22 AM
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Howard hyping pinoy fans is really creating a noise in social media so it will be great for those big companies to ride with it since for sure this will convert to more ticket sells and help to gain back the interest of pinoy crowd.
Let see what happen next to this since for sure they are monitoring how Howard perform on strong group Philippines.

If a PBA team will sign Howard, I would say it was a bold move. That will make the NBA interesting and will help this declining league to rise up to the competition again. I think games are more fan with imports, and hopefully they'll start eliminating farm teams, because as long as farm teams will stay, they will remain the reason why games aren't as competitive as before they existed.

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January 11, 2024, 03:30:32 PM
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If a PBA team will sign Howard, I would say it was a bold move. That will make the NBA interesting and will help this declining league to rise up to the competition again. I think games are more fan with imports, and hopefully they'll start eliminating farm teams, because as long as farm teams will stay, they will remain the reason why games aren't as competitive as before they existed.

Interesting as might it be but I disagree that it will help PBA be more interesting if Howard is signed by top PBA companies.

If any team aside from these big teams at PBA can afford to sign Howard, that's a great move but if he will be signed by SMC teams or the MVP team, the league will not be interesting anymore as it will be one-sided. The league is already one-sided and by adding Howard to the roster of these big companies, it's like the PBA will now be just more of entertainment than competition. Howard, even at veteran age, can still pulverize most PBA teams even with a caliber import.

I'm more interested in the idea of adding a foreign team again. There is no update about this.

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January 12, 2024, 02:17:25 AM
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Second game is important for NLEX as they had a chance to be in the quarters so that -4.5 spread @1.99 is attractive AFAIC because this is a must win game for them against the already eliminated Converge.

Tough luck mate. NLEX won but short by 1 point to give you that win.  They did play well though but converge are just not giving up although it's already a non bearing game for them AFAIK. Sometime, there are games like this that you get thrilled watching but in the end will break your heart.

Yeah, unfortunate on this one as NLEX didn't cover the spread, my bad if only I'm not greedy and picked that -3.5 @1.84 odds, my bet could have won but it is what it is and this kind of scenario happens very often.

We have two games tonight, top tiers team against low tiers team. Junemar Fajardo is expected to suit up for the Beermen tonight so i think the Beermen will cruise past the Blackwater Bossings easily.

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Howard hyping pinoy fans is really creating a noise in social media so it will be great for those big companies to ride with it since for sure this will convert to more ticket sells and help to gain back the interest of pinoy crowd.
Let see what happen next to this since for sure they are monitoring how Howard perform on strong group Philippines.

If a PBA team will sign Howard, I would say it was a bold move. That will make the NBA interesting and will help this declining league to rise up to the competition again. I think games are more fan with imports, and hopefully they'll start eliminating farm teams, because as long as farm teams will stay, they will remain the reason why games aren't as competitive as before they existed.

We can really see that on social media presence of Howard since he really create a big hype when he signed on Strong Group and to many people got hype by this news. Also Howard is open to play on PBA which another huge factor and I think PBA can get the benefits to be viewed more if they can successfully sign him on any team there. Once Dubai league will be done maybe we can see this to happen and I also guess that team owners are also looking forward for him since thus us huge revenue in the making if they can sign Howard to their team.

But don't hope they eliminate farm teams for now since if they didn't change the current commissioner nothing will happen to that issue.

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January 12, 2024, 08:46:52 AM
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Second game is important for NLEX as they had a chance to be in the quarters so that -4.5 spread @1.99 is attractive AFAIC because this is a must win game for them against the already eliminated Converge.

Tough luck mate. NLEX won but short by 1 point to give you that win.  They did play well though but converge are just not giving up although it's already a non bearing game for them AFAIK. Sometime, there are games like this that you get thrilled watching but in the end will break your heart.

Yeah, unfortunate on this one as NLEX didn't cover the spread, my bad if only I'm not greedy and picked that -3.5 @1.84 odds, my bet could have won but it is what it is and this kind of scenario happens very often.
If we can only see the outcome then we would do that. What you did was just right, NLEX were on the position to cover the spread but they just fall short. It's part of the game, sometimes things does not work our way.


We have two games tonight, top tiers team against low tiers team. Junemar Fajardo is expected to suit up for the Beermen tonight so i think the Beermen will cruise past the Blackwater Bossings easily.

SMB Beermen -12.5 @1.84 vs Blackwater

Oops, I missed it. Juding by the score now, it seems like it's a close game as Blackwater is currently leading, but it's still too early though, for sure the 2nd half woould be a different story.

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We have two games tonight, top tiers team against low tiers team. Junemar Fajardo is expected to suit up for the Beermen tonight so i think the Beermen will cruise past the Blackwater Bossings easily.

SMB Beermen -12.5 @1.84 vs Blackwater

Oops, I missed it. Juding by the score now, it seems like it's a close game as Blackwater is currently leading, but it's still too early though, for sure the 2nd half woould be a different story.

Not for long, because as the first half as ended, SMB already took a 12 points lead. This bet of bisdak40 looks a sure win already. SMB just need to win by 1 point on the 2nd half which they can for sure,  so hold strong their bro, you sure gonna get this win on the first game today.

By the way, JMF is back, however he scored only 3 points. Maybe he is not 100% yet. Their top scorer now is their import with 26 points, I think he'll get another 50 point game after this game.

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