2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[bisdak40]

Second game, that's a nerve breaking escape after having a comfortable lead TNT manage to rally back and almost snatch the game to coach Yeng, luckily they escaped and will now move forward for the semis.

ROS are so predictable as they relied so much on outside shooting, I think the same with TNT, and since ROS shoot better in that game, they won the game. What I'm really impress is on how Kelly Williams played that game, he is already 42 years old and still competing very well, can even drive in the paint and score, and that game, he score 3 straight 3 point shots with less than a minute remaining, that's unbelievable.

Predictable indeed, they are just so lucky that they exploded for 39 points in the first quarter and have a comfortable 17 points lead, if not for that they might have lost the game. Moving forward, ROS will face SMB Beermen in the semis which i think the Beermen will win as the Elastopainters don't have anyone that could stop the Kraken down low.

[Fredomago]

I guess if they can't bring Mikey back maybe Chris Newsome might fit with how coach Chot execute his running game attacks.

The guy would really be a help to the team because he has the talent, unfortunately he demands a lot of money that's why they can't close a contract with him. I guess Newsome would really fit, he is not really a good scorer but he'll be able to improve the defense of the team, so let's see if that will happen since it's possible as he is playing with the sister team. TNT team needs some rebump as this current lineup is not a championship team anymore.

Though I'm heaing some rumor that Newsome might be traded to Gin kings but chances to be traded to his main team might be possible, not sure if MVP group will push for it and let his main squad to be competitive against his rival company, Oftana needs someone who can help him developing more of his talent and since both Newsome and him are playing for the National squad I guess the connection is no longer hard to established.

Second game, that's a nerve breaking escape after having a comfortable lead TNT manage to rally back and almost snatch the game to coach Yeng, luckily they escaped and will now move forward for the semis.

ROS are so predictable as they relied so much on outside shooting, I think the same with TNT, and since ROS shoot better in that game, they won the game. What I'm really impress is on how Kelly Williams played that game, he is already 42 years old and still competing very well, can even drive in the paint and score, and that game, he score 3 straight 3 point shots with less than a minute remaining, that's unbelievable.

Predictable indeed, they are just so lucky that they exploded for 39 points in the first quarter and have a comfortable 17 points lead, if not for that they might have lost the game. Moving forward, ROS will face SMB Beermen in the semis which i think the Beermen will win as the Elastopainters don't have anyone that could stop the Kraken down low.

Like what coach Yeng said from his interview there's no 2nd five as all the players can be consider as 1st five but they will fight and hope for some luck to help them win a game against the super team. Let see if how they will execute the system and what strategy they will use in trying to be competitve as it can be.

[Hypnosis00]

Predictable indeed, they are just so lucky that they exploded for 39 points in the first quarter and have a comfortable 17 points lead, if not for that they might have lost the game. Moving forward, ROS will face SMB Beermen in the semis which i think the Beermen will win as the Elastopainters don't have anyone that could stop the Kraken down low.

That's for sure, and aside from the SMB which is already a good 3 point shooters, they also have players that could attack the paint. The 2nd unit of the SM is more than enough to beat the starters of the ROS, so I doubt it will be a long series, unless.....if you know what I mean.

[Finestream]

Predictable indeed, they are just so lucky that they exploded for 39 points in the first quarter and have a comfortable 17 points lead, if not for that they might have lost the game. Moving forward, ROS will face SMB Beermen in the semis which i think the Beermen will win as the Elastopainters don't have anyone that could stop the Kraken down low.

That's for sure, and aside from the SMB which is already a good 3 point shooters, they also have players that could attack the paint. The 2nd unit of the SM is more than enough to beat the starters of the ROS, so I doubt it will be a long series, unless.....if you know what I mean.

The spread of the game is already out..

SMB -5.5 vs ROS,. We have the first game of the best of 7 series, I think in the first game they'll come up so confident after the win, especially the ROS who had a great shooting night when they beat the TNT, so I guess it's going to be over. Not taking the spread but I have the ROS to score over 104.5.

[Kelvinid]

Predictable indeed, they are just so lucky that they exploded for 39 points in the first quarter and have a comfortable 17 points lead, if not for that they might have lost the game. Moving forward, ROS will face SMB Beermen in the semis which i think the Beermen will win as the Elastopainters don't have anyone that could stop the Kraken down low.

That's for sure, and aside from the SMB which is already a good 3 point shooters, they also have players that could attack the paint. The 2nd unit of the SM is more than enough to beat the starters of the ROS, so I doubt it will be a long series, unless.....if you know what I mean.

The spread of the game is already out..

SMB -5.5 vs ROS,. We have the first game of the best of 7 series, I think in the first game they'll come up so confident after the win, especially the ROS who had a great shooting night when they beat the TNT, so I guess it's going to be over. Not taking the spread but I have the ROS to score over 104.5.

There has been a sudden movement of handicap, as mentioned, it was -5.5 when it opened, now it's already -8.5. If this line movement is a good indication, most likely people are betting on SMB so bookies decided to move the line. Now, with -8.5, I think SMB is still capable of cover the spread if they'll win the game.

This two teams face in the regular season, SMB managed to beat them by 12 points, so if we will witness the same scenario, it's safe to say that SMB will cover the spread.

here's the boxscore on that game. https://pba.ph/recap?match=2417613

[Fredomago]

Predictable indeed, they are just so lucky that they exploded for 39 points in the first quarter and have a comfortable 17 points lead, if not for that they might have lost the game. Moving forward, ROS will face SMB Beermen in the semis which i think the Beermen will win as the Elastopainters don't have anyone that could stop the Kraken down low.

That's for sure, and aside from the SMB which is already a good 3 point shooters, they also have players that could attack the paint. The 2nd unit of the SM is more than enough to beat the starters of the ROS, so I doubt it will be a long series, unless.....if you know what I mean.

The spread of the game is already out..

SMB -5.5 vs ROS,. We have the first game of the best of 7 series, I think in the first game they'll come up so confident after the win, especially the ROS who had a great shooting night when they beat the TNT, so I guess it's going to be over. Not taking the spread but I have the ROS to score over 104.5.

The handicap seems so decent as knowing how dominating SMB was, though with the lost against Terrafima maybe that exposed something and maybe coach Yeng will find that fit system to counter SMB's outstanding offensive attakcs, I'm pretty sure there are early gamblers who already take that odds believing that SMB will give them decent profits.

With your pick, not sure if the game will be that high scoring game as SMB is not just good with their offense but they can match the speed and can play that tough defense to counter whatever coach Yeng will use during the game.

[bisdak40]

The spread of the game is already out..

SMB -5.5 vs ROS,. We have the first game of the best of 7 series, I think in the first game they'll come up so confident after the win, especially the ROS who had a great shooting night when they beat the TNT, so I guess it's going to be over. Not taking the spread but I have the ROS to score over 104.5.

ROS only managed to score 98 points mate, though they have a decent percentage on the outside shooting but they struggle on the paint as they can't score easily with Junemar Fajardo manning the middle. I have not put a bet on this game as i was thinking that ROS might upset them on game 1 as ROS' confidence is high with that win over TNT the other night. As usual, Fajardo was somewhat unstoppable in this game, tallying 23 points and grabbing 16 rebounds, good numbers for his 8th MVP award hehe.

[Maslate]

The spread of the game is already out..

SMB -5.5 vs ROS,. We have the first game of the best of 7 series, I think in the first game they'll come up so confident after the win, especially the ROS who had a great shooting night when they beat the TNT, so I guess it's going to be over. Not taking the spread but I have the ROS to score over 104.5.

ROS only managed to score 98 points mate, though they have a decent percentage on the outside shooting but they struggle on the paint as they can't score easily with Junemar Fajardo manning the middle. I have not put a bet on this game as i was thinking that ROS might upset them on game 1 as ROS' confidence is high with that win over TNT the other night. As usual, Fajardo was somewhat unstoppable in this game, tallying 23 points and grabbing 16 rebounds, good numbers for his 8th MVP award hehe.

Guess the correct bet was ROS because even if they loss they still manage to cover the handicap. The line movement from -5.5 to -8.5 indicates that public bets are pushing the line so hard, and they didn't regret it as they all lose. 

2nd game happening now, I didn't watch the game but maybe in the 2nd half I'll do. I had also place my bet already, I booked the under 177.5.

Good to all!

[Finestream]

The spread of the game is already out..

SMB -5.5 vs ROS,. We have the first game of the best of 7 series, I think in the first game they'll come up so confident after the win, especially the ROS who had a great shooting night when they beat the TNT, so I guess it's going to be over. Not taking the spread but I have the ROS to score over 104.5.

ROS only managed to score 98 points mate, though they have a decent percentage on the outside shooting but they struggle on the paint as they can't score easily with Junemar Fajardo manning the middle. I have not put a bet on this game as i was thinking that ROS might upset them on game 1 as ROS' confidence is high with that win over TNT the other night. As usual, Fajardo was somewhat unstoppable in this game, tallying 23 points and grabbing 16 rebounds, good numbers for his 8th MVP award hehe.

Guess the correct bet was ROS because even if they loss they still manage to cover the handicap. The line movement from -5.5 to -8.5 indicates that public bets are pushing the line so hard, and they didn't regret it as they all lose. 

2nd game happening now, I didn't watch the game but maybe in the 2nd half I'll do. I had also place my bet already, I booked the under 177.5.

Good to all!

I lose my bet on the over, turn out the offense of ROS is not enough to score 100+ points.  It was only a 3 point win by SMB, I had a chance to win if that game went to OT but the tying shot didn't went in, so that's it. Anyway, there's still more games to come, I'll check back tomorrow and bet again, double my losses to come up on top if I win.

@Maslate ... low scoring game so far, your bet is looking good, I'm hoping they'll continue with the slow phase game.

[Distinctin]

I had also place my bet already, I booked the under 177.5.

This looked good in the 1st to 3rd quarter but the 4th quarter was about scoring, the game ended at a total of 180 points. So you loss your bet. I remember the point spread was -4.5 for Meralco, that could have easily win as the Gin Kings already wasted time but with 5 seconds left I guess, I don't understand why Meralco still choose to score despite the fact that they are already down 6 points, as a sign of respect, they should have already wasted the time since there's no point quotient already. I smell fishy on that last play.. hmmmm.. Turned out, Meralco covered the +4.5 because Ginebra won only by 4 points because of that no necessary shot.

[Fredomago]

I had also place my bet already, I booked the under 177.5.

This looked good in the 1st to 3rd quarter but the 4th quarter was about scoring, the game ended at a total of 180 points. So you loss your bet. I remember the point spread was -4.5 for Meralco, that could have easily win as the Gin Kings already wasted time but with 5 seconds left I guess, I don't understand why Meralco still choose to score despite the fact that they are already down 6 points, as a sign of respect, they should have already wasted the time since there's no point quotient already. I smell fishy on that last play.. hmmmm.. Turned out, Meralco covered the +4.5 because Ginebra won only by 4 points because of that no necessary shot.

Do we expect to hear another fans that threatened players because of that last shot? I used to remember Mambatac when he took that last shot even there's no way that they can win or tie the game, he was threatened in his social media accounts and really put some noise about that, as the gambler who loses their bets thinks that Mambatac messed it up, is this another some sort of same situation where someone takes it even there's no chance of winning the game but the sole purpose is to messed  with the handicap. Hahaha just saying.. but for those who pick the handicap for the Gin kings just need to move forward and try to analyze the next game then place a bet..

[Distinctin]

I had also place my bet already, I booked the under 177.5.

This looked good in the 1st to 3rd quarter but the 4th quarter was about scoring, the game ended at a total of 180 points. So you loss your bet. I remember the point spread was -4.5 for Meralco, that could have easily win as the Gin Kings already wasted time but with 5 seconds left I guess, I don't understand why Meralco still choose to score despite the fact that they are already down 6 points, as a sign of respect, they should have already wasted the time since there's no point quotient already. I smell fishy on that last play.. hmmmm.. Turned out, Meralco covered the +4.5 because Ginebra won only by 4 points because of that no necessary shot.

Do we expect to hear another fans that threatened players because of that last shot? I used to remember Mambatac when he took that last shot even there's no way that they can win or tie the game, he was threatened in his social media accounts and really put some noise about that, as the gambler who loses their bets thinks that Mambatac messed it up, is this another some sort of same situation where someone takes it even there's no chance of winning the game but the sole purpose is to messed  with the handicap. Hahaha just saying.. but for those who pick the handicap for the Gin kings just need to move forward and try to analyze the next game then place a bet..

Possible but I think this was a different scenario because Nambatac shot it from the outside and they have the last position although they already loss, that kind of scenario can also be seen in the NBA. But this one, Ginebra already wasted time as they want their opponent to not shoot the ball also, and they are shaking hands already, but still they decided to pass the ball near the rim for an easy lay up before the game was over.  That really looks fishy at all IMO.

[Maslate]

I had also place my bet already, I booked the under 177.5.

This looked good in the 1st to 3rd quarter but the 4th quarter was about scoring, the game ended at a total of 180 points. So you loss your bet. I remember the point spread was -4.5 for Meralco, that could have easily win as the Gin Kings already wasted time but with 5 seconds left I guess, I don't understand why Meralco still choose to score despite the fact that they are already down 6 points, as a sign of respect, they should have already wasted the time since there's no point quotient already. I smell fishy on that last play.. hmmmm.. Turned out, Meralco covered the +4.5 because Ginebra won only by 4 points because of that no necessary shot.

Do we expect to hear another fans that threatened players because of that last shot? I used to remember Mambatac when he took that last shot even there's no way that they can win or tie the game, he was threatened in his social media accounts and really put some noise about that, as the gambler who loses their bets thinks that Mambatac messed it up, is this another some sort of same situation where someone takes it even there's no chance of winning the game but the sole purpose is to messed  with the handicap. Hahaha just saying.. but for those who pick the handicap for the Gin kings just need to move forward and try to analyze the next game then place a bet..

Possible but I think this was a different scenario because Nambatac shot it from the outside and they have the last position although they already loss, that kind of scenario can also be seen in the NBA. But this one, Ginebra already wasted time as they want their opponent to not shoot the ball also, and they are shaking hands already, but still they decided to pass the ball near the rim for an easy lay up before the game was over.  That really looks fishy at all IMO.

I think about that Nambatac's threat issue before it can be justified because there was a point quotient, but this in the best of 7 series, they still make that shot when it doesn't matter anymore. That only showed how disrespectful that team (meralco) is, so I think Ginebra aren't gonna give them a chance to come back in the series. No game today due to rest but tomorrow the game 2 of 2 match ups will continue.

I'm still rooting for the SMB and Ginebra, IMO, it's worth doing a parlay for the moneyline.

[Fredomago]

I had also place my bet already, I booked the under 177.5.

This looked good in the 1st to 3rd quarter but the 4th quarter was about scoring, the game ended at a total of 180 points. So you loss your bet. I remember the point spread was -4.5 for Meralco, that could have easily win as the Gin Kings already wasted time but with 5 seconds left I guess, I don't understand why Meralco still choose to score despite the fact that they are already down 6 points, as a sign of respect, they should have already wasted the time since there's no point quotient already. I smell fishy on that last play.. hmmmm.. Turned out, Meralco covered the +4.5 because Ginebra won only by 4 points because of that no necessary shot.

Do we expect to hear another fans that threatened players because of that last shot? I used to remember Mambatac when he took that last shot even there's no way that they can win or tie the game, he was threatened in his social media accounts and really put some noise about that, as the gambler who loses their bets thinks that Mambatac messed it up, is this another some sort of same situation where someone takes it even there's no chance of winning the game but the sole purpose is to messed  with the handicap. Hahaha just saying.. but for those who pick the handicap for the Gin kings just need to move forward and try to analyze the next game then place a bet..

Possible but I think this was a different scenario because Nambatac shot it from the outside and they have the last position although they already loss, that kind of scenario can also be seen in the NBA. But this one, Ginebra already wasted time as they want their opponent to not shoot the ball also, and they are shaking hands already, but still they decided to pass the ball near the rim for an easy lay up before the game was over.  That really looks fishy at all IMO.

I think about that Nambatac's threat issue before it can be justified because there was a point quotient, but this in the best of 7 series, they still make that shot when it doesn't matter anymore. That only showed how disrespectful that team (meralco) is, so I think Ginebra aren't gonna give them a chance to come back in the series. No game today due to rest but tomorrow the game 2 of 2 match ups will continue.

I'm still rooting for the SMB and Ginebra, IMO, it's worth doing a parlay for the moneyline.

That might wieght it up, this is a series while Nambatac's case is something different but inside gamblers mind who similarly bets with the game for sure that's no difference, though I like what you said, it's the disrespectul that Meralco shown and maybe it can be use by Gin kings as additional motivation in terms of securing the win, but in the back of my mind I like to follow what's behind that easy basket that should not be done since Gin kings already wasting time and waiting for the clock to ends up, why that last shot was been taken especially when the handicap can be ruined by that basket, something fishy which a manipulators hands might be present behind.

[Distinctin]

The series now tied for Ginebra vs Meralco. Although C. Stand score 41 points but it wasn't enough to beat the Meralco who tried to even the series. It was the complete team effort of Ginebra that made them beat a strong team like Ginebra, there shooting was great, they ended with 50% shooting, and have outrebounded Ginebra by 11 rebounds.

Now, we are going into the 2nd game of the SMB vs ROS series, can the ROS even the series as well? Let's see, but as for me, I had my bet on SMB at -5.5. I believe it's either SMB winning covering the spread or ROS will win outright.


Edit, the firsts has been concluded 53-45, SMB leading by 8 points but I don't like the spread in the live betting as SMB is only -7.5. I'm not quite skeptical if this bet will win as spread like that in this situation, normally the underdog will cover based on my experiencce.

Also the pregame total was 204. now live at 201.5, I'll take the over.

[mirakal]

The series now tied for Ginebra vs Meralco. Although C. Stand score 41 points but it wasn't enough to beat the Meralco who tried to even the series. It was the complete team effort of Ginebra that made them beat a strong team like Ginebra, there shooting was great, they ended with 50% shooting, and have outrebounded Ginebra by 11 rebounds.

Nice series, the first game was close and the 2nd game it was Meralco who dominated the Ginebra.
I think this one is a good series, would probably go to 6 of 7 games.

C. Stand with 41 points probably his semi finals bets.

Now, we are going into the 2nd game of the SMB vs ROS series, can the ROS even the series as well? Let's see, but as for me, I had my bet on SMB at -5.5. I believe it's either SMB winning covering the spread or ROS will win outright.


Edit, the firsts has been concluded 53-45, SMB leading by 8 points but I don't like the spread in the live betting as SMB is only -7.5. I'm not quite skeptical if this bet will win as spread like that in this situation, normally the underdog will cover based on my experiencce.

Also the pregame total was 204. now live at 201.5, I'll take the over.

You win on the SMB bet as the defense was really superb, and they are healthier now with Terrence Romeo already back in the line up.
Unfortunately the over didn't go through as ROS is shooting bricks.

[Fredomago]

Now, we are going into the 2nd game of the SMB vs ROS series, can the ROS even the series as well? Let's see, but as for me, I had my bet on SMB at -5.5. I believe it's either SMB winning covering the spread or ROS will win outright.


Edit, the firsts has been concluded 53-45, SMB leading by 8 points but I don't like the spread in the live betting as SMB is only -7.5. I'm not quite skeptical if this bet will win as spread like that in this situation, normally the underdog will cover based on my experiencce.

Also the pregame total was 204. now live at 201.5, I'll take the over.

You win on the SMB bet as the defense was really superb, and they are healthier now with Terrence Romeo already back in the line up.
Unfortunately the over didn't go through as ROS is shooting bricks.

Yup, SMB dominated game 2 with that solid and healthy squad there's nothing that RoS tried doing to counter but it's really a team effort for SMB that really hurting both the defense and the offense of RoS it's so hard to beat a great team who's playing alongside with each other and already knows what to do when each players are inside the court.

They are just waiting for the play executions and always ready to take the shot when opportunity gave them, no time to be shy in taking shots as the trust with each other already established.

[Distinctin]

Now, we are going into the 2nd game of the SMB vs ROS series, can the ROS even the series as well? Let's see, but as for me, I had my bet on SMB at -5.5. I believe it's either SMB winning covering the spread or ROS will win outright.


Edit, the firsts has been concluded 53-45, SMB leading by 8 points but I don't like the spread in the live betting as SMB is only -7.5. I'm not quite skeptical if this bet will win as spread like that in this situation, normally the underdog will cover based on my experiencce.

Also the pregame total was 204. now live at 201.5, I'll take the over.

You win on the SMB bet as the defense was really superb, and they are healthier now with Terrence Romeo already back in the line up.
Unfortunately the over didn't go through as ROS is shooting bricks.

Yup, SMB dominated game 2 with that solid and healthy squad there's nothing that RoS tried doing to counter but it's really a team effort for SMB that really hurting both the defense and the offense of RoS it's so hard to beat a great team who's playing alongside with each other and already knows what to do when each players are inside the court.

They are just waiting for the play executions and always ready to take the shot when opportunity gave them, no time to be shy in taking shots as the trust with each other already established.

SMB is just too much for ROS. Although ROS are sharing the ball very well which is good but their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's and since that should be their main weapon to defeat SMB, with a low percentage that's an automatic loss. ROS really struggling to score in the paint as JMF is waiting their to block shots, and sometimes when JMF attack the paint, he can also grab some offensive rebounds which hurts more the ROS. Now, let's talk about game 3, what should be the strategy the ROS has to use? Because they can't afford to go 0-3 where no team have even comeback in the PBA history.

[Kelvinid]

<< their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's.....

That's what I also noticed, when the ROS shoots well, they likely win the game. Just like their game versus the TNT when they have a big lead at the beginning because of their great 3 point shooting, but the TNT had a big run in the 4th, lucky for ROS it does not translate to a win. Not only the 3 point shooting, I think they also need to improve their defense. It can't be denied that SMB is a very good team, but if DYIP were able to beat them in a game, then I guess ROS is capable of doing that also since this is a best of 7 series, more opportunity for them compared to the DYIP.

[Fredomago]

<< their 3 point shooting was really the problem in this game. Just    27% from 3's.....

That's what I also noticed, when the ROS shoots well, they likely win the game. Just like their game versus the TNT when they have a big lead at the beginning because of their great 3 point shooting, but the TNT had a big run in the 4th, lucky for ROS it does not translate to a win. Not only the 3 point shooting, I think they also need to improve their defense. It can't be denied that SMB is a very good team, but if DYIP were able to beat them in a game, then I guess ROS is capable of doing that also since this is a best of 7 series, more opportunity for them compared to the DYIP.

Hopefully they'll be able to find that adjustment especially with their defense they can't just let SMB to establish their confidence and keep attacking, the team is composed of very talented players as even their 3rd five can do the damage,  the only thing that RoS can do here is to play with both defense  and offense there's no room for any mistakes as SMB will surely attacks them if they see lapses.

Like you mentioned,  it's a 7 game series there's enough time for them to create system that will give them the right adjustments and maybe they'll be able to win  game from these series,.

If DYIP managed to take a game from SMB there's also a possibility that ROS may win. Just continue playing with everything that they can bring and hope that it went right for them to win.