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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
Total Voters: 120

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January 18, 2023, 06:28:36 PM
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I don't think Real Madrid are going to have a comfortable match against Athletic Bilbao. I know that they have a good head-to-head match history against Athletic Bilbao. But Real Madrid haven't seemed very reliable in their recent matches. They started to lose quite many points lately. They lost 8 points in their last 5 matches for example. We all watched how solid Villarreal played against them in their home match. If Athletic Bilbao manage to show a similar level of performance to that then Real Madrid had better be ready for a very tough match.
The strength that Atletico Bilbao has is different from Villarreal, in La Liga Atletico Bilbao is not very consistent, even though they are currently ranked eighth in the standings. Real Madrid are still performing quite well in La Liga, despite having suffered two defeats against Rayo Vallecano in November and one defeat against Villareal in Week 16. Meanwhile, in two Super Cup matches, Real Madrid had to draw against Valencia and lose against Barcelona.

Ancelotti will definitely prepare at full strength and will evaluate the unsatisfactory match they got in the previous match, because if they lose against Atletico Bilbao, the points with Barcelona will widen slightly. The closest match that Real Madrid has to prepare for is the Copa Del Rey, because they will meet Villarreal again and this match is also important for Real Madrid to win.

Athletic Bilbao are already one of the strong teams in the league. They lost to Real Sociedad recently maybe but the red card was also a big impact on that. I think they will play bravely against Real Madrid home.
Real Madrid will not waste any chance of dropping points in that match and I am sure they will get a win in that match which will take place at San Mames Barria.

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January 18, 2023, 06:32:44 PM
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Ancelotti knows what he's doing, if he replaces all madrid old players with young players then Madrid's game pattern will change, besides that Barcelona doesn't focus on young players either, they have more old players so it's Madrid's defeat in the Supercup final not because the factor of old or young players but more to strategy and luck alone.
It's not too funny to say that this defeat was due to the old players there because regardless of anything, there are also many young players who play Madrid.
Madrid lost because they really didn't play well and lost in terms of the strategy they played. There is no need to bring up reasons about old and young players, I think in this case because it doesn't really make sense for that reason.
They have fought very hard but when they lose, the result is that there is no need to look for reasons that don't really make sense.
However, if I may argue, Barcelona's midfield was slightly superior to Real Madrid in that match. It is undeniable that Barcelona's midfielders are much more creative to carry out attacks, while Real Madrid they have senior players in the midfield such as Modric and Kroos but it seems they lack coordination to organize attacks so that the flow of the ball towards the Barcelona defense is a little disturbed, Camavinga who becomes the defensive midfielder replacing Tchouameni also played very badly and seemed to be a mess in Real Madrid's midfield, plus Vini Jr. always being shut down especially by Araujo and that also had a significant impact on Real Madrid being unable to do anything.

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January 18, 2023, 06:56:42 PM
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However, if I may argue, Barcelona's midfield was slightly superior to Real Madrid in that match. It is undeniable that Barcelona's midfielders are much more creative to carry out attacks, while Real Madrid they have senior players in the midfield such as Modric and Kroos but it seems they lack coordination to organize attacks so that the flow of the ball towards the Barcelona defense is a little disturbed, Camavinga who becomes the defensive midfielder replacing Tchouameni also played very badly and seemed to be a mess in Real Madrid's midfield, plus Vini Jr. always being shut down especially by Araujo and that also had a significant impact on Real Madrid being unable to do anything.

Barcelona midfield actually won them the game but the defense was superb. I think Madrid got it wrong in the midfield combination. The absence of Tchouameni brought in Camavinga into the line up which influenced how Madrid played. Camavinga doesn’t have the ability to play a lone DM to allow kroos more freedom to move forward. Ancelloti should have played Valverde there, he is more experienced in matches like this.

Nonetheless this super cup win could be a moral booster to Barcelona to go for the League this season and could also shape Madrid’s performance they will be hurting and would like to anything possible to get back at Barcelona by winning the league

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January 18, 2023, 07:15:52 PM
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However, if I may argue, Barcelona's midfield was slightly superior to Real Madrid in that match. It is undeniable that Barcelona's midfielders are much more creative to carry out attacks, while Real Madrid they have senior players in the midfield such as Modric and Kroos but it seems they lack coordination to organize attacks so that the flow of the ball towards the Barcelona defense is a little disturbed, Camavinga who becomes the defensive midfielder replacing Tchouameni also played very badly and seemed to be a mess in Real Madrid's midfield, plus Vini Jr. always being shut down especially by Araujo and that also had a significant impact on Real Madrid being unable to do anything.
Tiki taka with a little new touch from Xavi is indeed a problem for Madrid to be able to keep up because regardless of anything their midfield players are stable in attack and help defend.
It is undeniable that in this match, even though there were many opportunities for Madrid, they were against the fast attacks of the two teams.
Madrid's midfield is good but they obviously lost a bit in this game.

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January 18, 2023, 07:37:49 PM
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I have only now seen the summary and certain analyzes of the Real Madrid - Barcelona match. I must say that I am very impressed with Barcelona's game. They are a bit like Barcelona in the time of Xavi and Iniesta. Maybe it was incidental, but it certainly gives confidence. Real Madrid is actually completely outplayed. At times it seemed like a machine that Barcelona showed. And fun for the fans to see. The only strange thing is that this match was not played in Spain but in the Middle East. If Barcelona continues to play like this, they are the absolute favorites to win the league. But maybe it was incidental what they showed.
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January 18, 2023, 07:54:47 PM
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really interesting. should I venture Cheesy . But almost everyone will definitely feel confident about Barcelona's victory. unless a big surprise happens in the fight. This reminds me a bit of my luck on the World Cup bet when Argentina vs Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately in this fight I have absolutely no doubt that Barcelona will win quite easily. Because after all, statistically Barcelona is very convincing in this match.
But looking at the odds, I personally don't really want something like this because it's really not really worth it in my opinion.
I prefer to bet that only Barcelona can score and I will also bet that Barcelona can score 2 goals in this match. It's still more interesting than having to look at 1.18 for a Barcelona win because it's too small.

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January 18, 2023, 07:56:23 PM
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It has been five years since Barcelona won the Super Cup the last time. I don't think they will care about it much less than the other games. I will be expecting Xavi to have his usual starting eleven here and they would fight hard for the title. Bookmakers are also seeing Barcelona as very highly the favourite side. But I still find these odds quite interesting.

Because Betis are not one of the teams to be underestimated. They are doing a good job in the La Liga recently and they will be an important threat to Barcelona here as well. I wouldn't bet on Barcelona win considering how much low the odd is now.

Well, Xavi's starting XI might bring him good results, but I really doubt that they can do much, I hope that they can play a good game in the Europa League against Manchester United first, that's what I hope because everything they've done in the league that they are first, they cannot lose the opportunity to win in the Europa League, before I used to think that Barcelona was better than they could do it in a better way, however I think that now I see Xavi's players more committed I think that if they put their minds to it, they can make a great Europa League and ensure that they don't fall back there but rather stay in the UCL.


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I'm sure Xavi was very happy with the win, but that doesn't make him very satisfied, because he still has goals that they still have to fight for, namely La Liga and also the European League. But at least, this can be a little medicine for their lack of success in the Champions League although it may not be able to cure 100%. They continue to strive to play very well, Xavi encourages and coaches them. That's why La Liga is more interesting now than it was last season, isn't it? Because the El Classico we've all been hoping for is really back again.
Even if they did bring the Trophy but only being satisfied with it was clearly a mistake. This trophy can be considered not too important if their goals are La Liga and Europa League. Even if they got a good thing for this victory because at least they have the trophy back after a few seasons out but indeed this cannot be used as satisfaction now because they still have a lot of work to do in this regard.
The target for the Europa League still has a challenge in the play offs because there is Manchester United and for La Liga even though Madrid are 3 points behind now but this is not something they can celebrate quickly considering there are still quite a lot of games.

At least Xavi has a plus even though the Supercopa de Espana trophy is not very prestigious. however, what is interesting is that this match presents a battle between two Spanish League giants who compete with prestige. on the other hand, Barcelona's victory over Madrid at the same time broke the pessimism that initially Barcelona would not be able to topple its rival.

With this result it is hoped that Barcelona will be on the right track, although we cannot be sure whether Barcelona's performance will continue to be stable. even so, at least Barcelona has a great chance to win the La Liga trophy this season. on one condition, Xavi can ensure his troops are on the right track.

As for the Europa League, Xavi has emphasized on several occasions that Barcelona are targeting two trophies at once this season. I think as a coach he knows what he has to do. after all, Barcelona will not take their opponent lightly in the playoffs considering that United are in fairly good form.

Well, this is something that should be highlighted, Xavi has done well, and that should be highlighted, even though the Spanish Super Cup is not such a relevant award if it could be thankful to the teams that are considered the biggest in Spain and the La Liga, so it was something interesting, every time these two teams meet, it's obviously a spectacle, we can make exceptions with other teams, but BARCELONA is a team that has improved remarkably, in particular it has surprised me a lot because I didn't think they would recover like this, in fact I like that because the great rivalry between Real Madrid and Barcelona is coming again, and as I said before, I'm not a Barcelona fan at all, but I hope they can win against Man United now I see better alignment in everything.

Xavi’s role in convincing in-form defender to join Barcelona in the summer – report



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After what could be termed as a rather difficult start to his new life in Barcelona, summer signing Andreas Christensen has now settled well, playing full 90 minutes in three of Barcelona’s last four outings across all competitions.

He has put in commanding displays in recent matches, with the away game against Atletico Madrid perhaps being the Dane’s best performance in the Barcelona shirt. 

Lining up alongside Ronald Araujo in central defence, the former Chelsea defender ended the game with the most passes completed (86). Add to it, he also had the second-most touches from either team (100) and also made the second-most ball recoveries (nine).

Source: https://barcauniversal.com/xavis-role-in-convincing-in-form-defender-to-join-barcelona-in-the-summer-report/

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January 18, 2023, 08:00:33 PM
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However, if I may argue, Barcelona's midfield was slightly superior to Real Madrid in that match. It is undeniable that Barcelona's midfielders are much more creative to carry out attacks, while Real Madrid they have senior players in the midfield such as Modric and Kroos but it seems they lack coordination to organize attacks so that the flow of the ball towards the Barcelona defense is a little disturbed, Camavinga who becomes the defensive midfielder replacing Tchouameni also played very badly and seemed to be a mess in Real Madrid's midfield, plus Vini Jr. always being shut down especially by Araujo and that also had a significant impact on Real Madrid being unable to do anything.

Barcelona midfield actually won them the game but the defense was superb. I think Madrid got it wrong in the midfield combination. The absence of Tchouameni brought in Camavinga into the line up which influenced how Madrid played. Camavinga doesn’t have the ability to play a lone DM to allow kroos more freedom to move forward. Ancelloti should have played Valverde there, he is more experienced in matches like this.

Nonetheless this super cup win could be a moral booster to Barcelona to go for the League this season and could also shape Madrid’s performance they will be hurting and would like to anything possible to get back at Barcelona by winning the league
The absence of Tchouameni greatly affected the performance of Real Madrid's midfield, but if you look at the second half when Rodrygo came on to replace Camavinga in the second half, Valverde was pulled back to become a defensive midfielder. But it all felt in vain because Barcelona had won 2 goals plus in the 69th minute Barcelona scored their 3rd goal which made Real Madrid's hopes vanish to win the Spanish Super Cup.

With this result, I agree that Barcelona will continue to perform at its best, while Real Madrid must immediately improve its performance, especially in the midfield, which is the flow of the ball which is important for carrying out good attacks.

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January 18, 2023, 08:00:37 PM
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Valencia achieved a 0-4 win in the cup. Atletico Madrid should normally have no problems away from Levante either, but Atletico are anything but doing well at the moment. The differences in the sub-top are really very small. The numbers 4 to 8 differ in total by only 1 point from each other. It remains remarkable that Barcelona have only conceded 6 goals in all matches so far. That says something about the defensive skills of this team. If you concede little to no goals, you automatically become champion. They always score once and so small victories are enough to become champions. Real Madrid will be shocked how Barcelona played football against them for the Super Cup last weekend.

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January 18, 2023, 08:02:58 PM
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After the defeat in the Spanish Super Cup it should be that Anceloti began to come to his senses. Aware Barcelona were in a good position and had the best game so they lost in the final. Therefore, Anceloti should start thinking about buying new players, to improve the game. This is because the transfer market is still going on. I fear they will lose the La Liga Cup this season.
Agree with what you said, At the moment Madrid clearly has to bring in players in any case. Ancelotti has always said that they can force it with the current squad but looking at the conditions this is not enough because indeed they are still losing especially with some of their poor performances during the last few games.
There must be at least 1 midfield player to regenerate again and this one attacker is better.

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January 18, 2023, 08:04:13 PM
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We have Copa del Rey matches before the next fixtures in the La Liga. I see that Barcelona's opponent is very easy to beat. But I can't say the same thing for Real Madrid's. Because they are going to face a team that beat them in the La Liga before. Why wouldn't Villarreal do the same here again as well? It is up to how much Real Madrid players thrive for the win of course. I didn't like them against Barcelona in the Super Cup match at all. They seemed very different than the last El Clasico.

If Villarreal manage to show a strong performance as they did in the La Liga then Real Madrid would be under danger of being eliminated for sure. But I think Ancelotti will motivate his players this time.

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January 18, 2023, 08:23:39 PM
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After the defeat in the Spanish Super Cup it should be that Anceloti began to come to his senses. Aware Barcelona were in a good position and had the best game so they lost in the final. Therefore, Anceloti should start thinking about buying new players, to improve the game. This is because the transfer market is still going on. I fear they will lose the La Liga Cup this season.
Agree with what you said, At the moment Madrid clearly has to bring in players in any case. Ancelotti has always said that they can force it with the current squad but looking at the conditions this is not enough because indeed they are still losing especially with some of their poor performances during the last few games.
There must be at least 1 midfield player to regenerate again and this one attacker is better.
maybe it's a good option for ancelotti to sign one of the most experienced players of the highest quality for the front line. Real Madrid has just been humiliated by Barcelona in the Spanish Super Cup and this indicates that the Real Madrid squad really has a gap to fix. but for the laliga competition I think the is still very long and there is a possibility that real madrid will again win rank place from barcelona.

real madrid will need to initiate a swift transition to fill the gap in their squad depth. several players must be filled with new faces, especially for Karim Benzema who has been injured so many times that ancelotti has to find the right figure for that position.

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January 18, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
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If you look at the percentage of points scored by Real and Barcelona, then we can say that three points is a very big advantage. But the fact works in favor of Real that in case of equality of points, the first indicator for determining the champion is the result of personal meetings. It turns out one defeat of Barcelona (or the victory of Real in a personal meeting) and Real will return to the top.
As for the decline in Real Madrid, this is normal - it happens to all teams and Barcelona will not be spared either. You can't go through the whole season "exactly".

Yes, I agree with you that three points are a lot of points because we have seen a lot of teams win the league with only a one-point margin. But the thing that concerns me is that Real Madrid's performance is degrading over time and I think one of the main reasons is their defense. They had a really good start to the season right now they are struggling both on defense and attack as Karim Benzema alone can only do so much.

I think it's too early to draw conclusions. Firstly, the distance will show who has distributed forces more correctly for the season, and secondly, probably the next match by which it will be possible to judge the strength of Real Madrid is a game with Liverpool.
Defeats happen to all clubs - as we have seen, both PSG and City lose sometimes. And recessions in the game happen to everyone, perhaps now Real Madrid has such a mini-recession.

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January 18, 2023, 08:46:10 PM
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Barca vs Getafe



So far this is extraordinary odds in La Liga this week. Because we know Barcelona is on fire after beat Madrid on Final Super Cup. They can't hold to continue to win and make gap the different points on La liga. no one has dared yet to bet on Getafe even they odds is look interesting. The solidirty team is a factor to bet on Barcelona even 1.18. who dare to bet Getafe which have 1 win on 5 matches?.

That's odds makes me laugh. It seems like that after the match against real madrid and bookies consider barcelona a powerful team, right? the odds was telling me about that. It can be an easy match for barcelona. Only people who wanna risking their money who have been trying to pick getafe in that match. I'm also feeling doubt if getage will force barcelona to be draw. Getafe's odd was so big in that match. I may try may luck with getafe for small amounts of money. It seems like that risking small amounts of money is worthy enough to try.
I can only hope getafe will get lucky enough in the match against barcelona which bas been considered by bookies as a really powerful team now.
I do agree with bookies that Barcelona is a great team, but I think you are wrong about just Barcelona, they are also considering Getafe to be a terrible team. I mean this is the game between a team who just recently beat Real Madrid, versus a team that is 15th in the league, how could they considering better odds for Barcelona. They couldn't make it like 1.60 or something, it is obvious that Barcelona will win this one and because of that they gave them a very low one.

It's still good enough, imagine this like getting a %20 return on your investment with a risk of 100% losing, and that would be a lot better for you, do you think that's unfair now? I do not.
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January 18, 2023, 09:01:11 PM
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~snip~
I combine it with another easy match in order to have a better ratio (make more money)
at most I combine three easy games into one bet

If Barcelona is able to play well just like against Real Madrid in the Spanish Super Cup, of course they will definitely win. Statistically perhaps Barcelona is indeed very superior. But sometimes they always struggle against non-seeded teams. Many small teams piled up a lot of players on the defensive line and it made Barcelona often difficult. So there is always a chance for Getafe to hold a draw, they have to take advantage of the counterattack and finish the opportunity optimally.
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January 18, 2023, 09:03:20 PM
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Barcelona midfield actually won them the game but the defense was superb. I think Madrid got it wrong in the midfield combination. The absence of Tchouameni brought in Camavinga into the line up which influenced how Madrid played. Camavinga doesn’t have the ability to play a lone DM to allow kroos more freedom to move forward. Ancelloti should have played Valverde there, he is more experienced in matches like this.

Nonetheless this super cup win could be a moral booster to Barcelona to go for the League this season and could also shape Madrid’s performance they will be hurting and would like to anything possible to get back at Barcelona by winning the league
Of course it would be better to say, but actually Ancelotti's plans in the final match were disrupted by Barcelona's good performance. Valverde was plotted as a right wing in that match where he played more of a role in building attacks. As a result Camavinga became Ancelotti's only alternative in defensive midfield during the time they lost Tchouameni. The problem was not Camavinga, but Barcelona did well in that match.

Actually I would prefer if Kroos - Modric - Valverde played in midfielder where Modric was plotted as defensive midfielder. Meanwhile, on the right wing, Ancelotti can play Asensio or Rodrygo to form the VBR trio. But you know, Ancelotti is smarter than we say today.

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January 18, 2023, 09:17:57 PM
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Gijon vs Valencia match ended as expected today because Valencia as a football team is a big name in Spanish football despite their poor performance in the last few years their are some history that are still been kept by the club but I must say that in the recent happening in Spanish laliga valencia has been doing greatly well, in this match Valencia shot on target was 8 against their opponent 0 shot, this showed that they were massively attacking their rivals and that gave them the total control of this match their display tonight was as a result of the team hardwork and in everything they gave their total best which in turn was fruitful to the entire team success.
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January 18, 2023, 09:59:12 PM
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If Barcelona is able to play well just like against Real Madrid in the Spanish Super Cup, of course they will definitely win. Statistically perhaps Barcelona is indeed very superior. But sometimes they always struggle against non-seeded teams. Many small teams piled up a lot of players on the defensive line and it made Barcelona often difficult. So there is always a chance for Getafe to hold a draw, they have to take advantage of the counterattack and finish the opportunity optimally.
I think Barcelona will play aggressively, the same as they played against Real Madrid. Barcelona players are in a great mood, they just won a title. Moreover, they will play at home, it becomes another motivation to play well. So, I am sure that Barcelona will win and get another 3 points. However, if Barcelona players are too confident, it can be a problem. It is like you said that Getafe players can surprise them with a counterattack. It is not impossible Getafe can steal points from Barcelona in Camp Nou.


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January 18, 2023, 10:29:10 PM
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I think everyone will think about it, but they haven't really found a solution on how to improve team performance. Sevilla were completely bad, it was the same even after they started to show seriousness against Getafe.
I mean seriously by taking the suitable solution, but well for a club that has been under performance, it may be too complicated to be better, need muxh money to make it come truw, and need some resuffles in many elements. Thta will be a long journey to be better. And this season probably will not be the time. Bit indeed, I do really expect that at least, Sevilla is able to still at La Liga, even they are in the the bottom four, it doesn't matter as long as they don't enter the relegation zone. So they still have the opportunity to prepare to improve themselves in the coming season.  Cheesy

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January 18, 2023, 10:53:43 PM
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Today, few Copa del Rey matches were played, nothing surprising when you see Bilbao, ATM and Valencia winning but what could be quite unexpected is to see Osasuna beating Betis. Well no one could be blamed when losing by penalties..but they could have won if they were able to resist until the end, they score then Osasuna get the draw twice.

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