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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
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January 18, 2023, 04:02:59 PM
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After the defeat in the Spanish Super Cup it should be that Anceloti began to come to his senses. Aware Barcelona were in a good position and had the best game so they lost in the final. Therefore, Anceloti should start thinking about buying new players, to improve the game. This is because the transfer market is still going on. I fear they will lose the La Liga Cup this season. 

In my opinion, Real Madrid doesn't need new players this period as there is a mix of experienced and young players out there. They have had bad days with consecutive bad results, which can happen with any big team, but it's easy for a team like Real Madrid to recover fast. However, their next match against Athletic Bilbao won't be easy as Bilbalo used to be difficult opponent in home matches.
There must be refreshment in Real Madrid's body, whether it's in terms of strategy, or from the players in the squad. I don't doubt some players are very experienced and have very good quality, but they are unlikely to last much longer, and they will inevitably have to have players ready to replace them at any moment. Carlo Ancelotti's strategy is starting to feel very monotonous now, he must make updates in his strategy.

I think Real Madrid already have young players but it seems Ancelotti does not have the courage to take risks, meaning Ancelotti is still very careful to play players in important matches by playing old experienced players. Whereas in reality they also can't always be played for the full 90 minutes so yes, Ancelotti does have to start daring to play young players longer.
Because if Ancelotti continues to rely on old players then in the end Real Madrid's young players will never develop, because to make young players have experience they have to get more minutes to play.

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January 18, 2023, 04:19:02 PM
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I don't think Real Madrid are going to have a comfortable match against Athletic Bilbao. I know that they have a good head-to-head match history against Athletic Bilbao. But Real Madrid haven't seemed very reliable in their recent matches. They started to lose quite many points lately. They lost 8 points in their last 5 matches for example. We all watched how solid Villarreal played against them in their home match. If Athletic Bilbao manage to show a similar level of performance to that then Real Madrid had better be ready for a very tough match.

Athletic Bilbao are already one of the strong teams in the league. They lost to Real Sociedad recently maybe but the red card was also a big impact on that. I think they will play bravely against Real Madrid home. Rather than trusting Real Madrid win, I'm thinking of placing a bet on both teams to score @1.68.

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Last edit: January 18, 2023, 05:18:14 PM by Renampun
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I think Real Madrid already have young players but it seems Ancelotti does not have the courage to take risks, meaning Ancelotti is still very careful to play players in important matches by playing old experienced players. Whereas in reality they also can't always be played for the full 90 minutes so yes, Ancelotti does have to start daring to play young players longer.
Because if Ancelotti continues to rely on old players then in the end Real Madrid's young players will never develop, because to make young players have experience they have to get more minutes to play.

Ancelotti knows what he's doing, if he replaces all madrid old players with young players then Madrid's game pattern will change, besides that Barcelona doesn't focus on young players either, they have more old players so it's Madrid's defeat in the Supercup final not because the factor of old or young players but more to strategy and luck alone.

I don't think Real Madrid are going to have a comfortable match against Athletic Bilbao. I know that they have a good head-to-head match history against Athletic Bilbao. But Real Madrid haven't seemed very reliable in their recent matches. They started to lose quite many points lately. They lost 8 points in their last 5 matches for example. We all watched how solid Villarreal played against them in their home match. If Athletic Bilbao manage to show a similar level of performance to that then Real Madrid had better be ready for a very tough match.

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3 Feb 2022 = Athletic Bilbao 1-0 Real Madrid
16 Jan 2022 = Athletic Bilbao 0-2 Real Madrid
22 Dec 2021 = Athletic Bilbao 1-2 Real Madrid
1 Dec 2021 = Real Madrid 1-0 Athletic Bilbao
almost a year ago, Madrid's last defeat from Athletics, and in this meeting, madrid will definitely not repeat that. but I see the prediction of the win probability for the two teams is almost balanced (athletic 33% - draw 28% - madrid 39%), But I still support Madrid.



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January 18, 2023, 05:37:14 PM
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Ancelotti knows what he's doing, if he replaces all madrid old players with young players then Madrid's game pattern will change, besides that Barcelona doesn't focus on young players either, they have more old players so it's Madrid's defeat in the Supercup final not because the factor of old or young players but more to strategy and luck alone.
It's not too funny to say that this defeat was due to the old players there because regardless of anything, there are also many young players who play Madrid.
Madrid lost because they really didn't play well and lost in terms of the strategy they played. There is no need to bring up reasons about old and young players, I think in this case because it doesn't really make sense for that reason.
They have fought very hard but when they lose, the result is that there is no need to look for reasons that don't really make sense.

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The Spanish Super Cup trophy is the first trophy for Barcelona since Messi left for PSG as well as the first trophy that Xavi has lifted in 14 months in charge after being officially appointed as head coach. The Spanish Super Cup trophy could be a huge morale boost for Barcelona players in their pursuit of success after the club experienced financial problems and the departure of one of its legends to PSG.
After this there are still several trophies that Barcelona might be able to achieve this season, Xavi will try to lead Barcelona to success after being equipped with different generations of players in the Barcelona squad who understand each other more and more.
It's been a long time now since I've been telling my friends that Ancelotti screwed up the games of réal but when they got away with it thanks to the twists of fate a lot of people didn't see it, but it's been too obvious since the beginning of This year. Ancelotti has to leave and we bring Zidane back if possible, I hope.
Hearing you speak in this manner makes me assume that you are too quick to judge. Ancelotti has been giving his best all this time, winning tough matches which you are very much aware of, u never said this. Just losing one match in more than 25 unbeaten runs you are now concluding that he's no more feet to manage Real Madrid. Please appreciate Ancelotti, it doesn't mean that when Zidane coach Real Madrid or wins a trophy he is not gonna lose a single match.

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January 18, 2023, 06:16:23 PM
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it would be unpleasant to bet with small odds. a fight like this would be one-sided. Barca is very much the favorite, that's what makes Getafe get very little chance from the bookie.
You mean that Barcelona's winning odds are lower than Getafe, but you say the opposite, am I right?
You will probably have a bigger chance of winning the bet if you bet on Barcelona, ​​but of course the odds are very low. If you want to take a big risk then consider betting on draw or maybe on Getafe win. But it is an easy way for you to lose money.

Getafe lost in a row in its last 2 matches in La Liga, while Barcelona were only drawn to Espanyol in the last 5 matches. Of course Barcelona are favourites, their form is very good now and they just won the Super Cup few days ago.

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3 Feb 2022 = Athletic Bilbao 1-0 Real Madrid
16 Jan 2022 = Athletic Bilbao 0-2 Real Madrid
22 Dec 2021 = Athletic Bilbao 1-2 Real Madrid
1 Dec 2021 = Real Madrid 1-0 Athletic Bilbao
almost a year ago, Madrid's last defeat from Athletics, and in this meeting, madrid will definitely not repeat that. but I see the prediction of the win probability for the two teams is almost balanced (athletic 33% - draw 28% - madrid 39%), But I still support Madrid.
If I'm not mistake it was the Copa del Rey event, and I remember that Benzema was unable to play due to injury, the result of which Real Madrid lost against Athletic Bilbao. I believe that if Benzema can play Real Madrid have a chance to win. Bilbao this season when playing at home got five win in nine matches, seeing from that records and also head to head, indeed this match is balanced. It seems, Real Madrid will be difficult to get three points in this match.

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January 18, 2023, 06:28:36 PM
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I don't think Real Madrid are going to have a comfortable match against Athletic Bilbao. I know that they have a good head-to-head match history against Athletic Bilbao. But Real Madrid haven't seemed very reliable in their recent matches. They started to lose quite many points lately. They lost 8 points in their last 5 matches for example. We all watched how solid Villarreal played against them in their home match. If Athletic Bilbao manage to show a similar level of performance to that then Real Madrid had better be ready for a very tough match.
The strength that Atletico Bilbao has is different from Villarreal, in La Liga Atletico Bilbao is not very consistent, even though they are currently ranked eighth in the standings. Real Madrid are still performing quite well in La Liga, despite having suffered two defeats against Rayo Vallecano in November and one defeat against Villareal in Week 16. Meanwhile, in two Super Cup matches, Real Madrid had to draw against Valencia and lose against Barcelona.

Ancelotti will definitely prepare at full strength and will evaluate the unsatisfactory match they got in the previous match, because if they lose against Atletico Bilbao, the points with Barcelona will widen slightly. The closest match that Real Madrid has to prepare for is the Copa Del Rey, because they will meet Villarreal again and this match is also important for Real Madrid to win.

Athletic Bilbao are already one of the strong teams in the league. They lost to Real Sociedad recently maybe but the red card was also a big impact on that. I think they will play bravely against Real Madrid home.
Real Madrid will not waste any chance of dropping points in that match and I am sure they will get a win in that match which will take place at San Mames Barria.

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January 18, 2023, 06:32:44 PM
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Ancelotti knows what he's doing, if he replaces all madrid old players with young players then Madrid's game pattern will change, besides that Barcelona doesn't focus on young players either, they have more old players so it's Madrid's defeat in the Supercup final not because the factor of old or young players but more to strategy and luck alone.
It's not too funny to say that this defeat was due to the old players there because regardless of anything, there are also many young players who play Madrid.
Madrid lost because they really didn't play well and lost in terms of the strategy they played. There is no need to bring up reasons about old and young players, I think in this case because it doesn't really make sense for that reason.
They have fought very hard but when they lose, the result is that there is no need to look for reasons that don't really make sense.
However, if I may argue, Barcelona's midfield was slightly superior to Real Madrid in that match. It is undeniable that Barcelona's midfielders are much more creative to carry out attacks, while Real Madrid they have senior players in the midfield such as Modric and Kroos but it seems they lack coordination to organize attacks so that the flow of the ball towards the Barcelona defense is a little disturbed, Camavinga who becomes the defensive midfielder replacing Tchouameni also played very badly and seemed to be a mess in Real Madrid's midfield, plus Vini Jr. always being shut down especially by Araujo and that also had a significant impact on Real Madrid being unable to do anything.

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January 18, 2023, 06:56:42 PM
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However, if I may argue, Barcelona's midfield was slightly superior to Real Madrid in that match. It is undeniable that Barcelona's midfielders are much more creative to carry out attacks, while Real Madrid they have senior players in the midfield such as Modric and Kroos but it seems they lack coordination to organize attacks so that the flow of the ball towards the Barcelona defense is a little disturbed, Camavinga who becomes the defensive midfielder replacing Tchouameni also played very badly and seemed to be a mess in Real Madrid's midfield, plus Vini Jr. always being shut down especially by Araujo and that also had a significant impact on Real Madrid being unable to do anything.

Barcelona midfield actually won them the game but the defense was superb. I think Madrid got it wrong in the midfield combination. The absence of Tchouameni brought in Camavinga into the line up which influenced how Madrid played. Camavinga doesn’t have the ability to play a lone DM to allow kroos more freedom to move forward. Ancelloti should have played Valverde there, he is more experienced in matches like this.

Nonetheless this super cup win could be a moral booster to Barcelona to go for the League this season and could also shape Madrid’s performance they will be hurting and would like to anything possible to get back at Barcelona by winning the league

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January 18, 2023, 07:15:52 PM
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However, if I may argue, Barcelona's midfield was slightly superior to Real Madrid in that match. It is undeniable that Barcelona's midfielders are much more creative to carry out attacks, while Real Madrid they have senior players in the midfield such as Modric and Kroos but it seems they lack coordination to organize attacks so that the flow of the ball towards the Barcelona defense is a little disturbed, Camavinga who becomes the defensive midfielder replacing Tchouameni also played very badly and seemed to be a mess in Real Madrid's midfield, plus Vini Jr. always being shut down especially by Araujo and that also had a significant impact on Real Madrid being unable to do anything.
Tiki taka with a little new touch from Xavi is indeed a problem for Madrid to be able to keep up because regardless of anything their midfield players are stable in attack and help defend.
It is undeniable that in this match, even though there were many opportunities for Madrid, they were against the fast attacks of the two teams.
Madrid's midfield is good but they obviously lost a bit in this game.

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January 18, 2023, 07:37:49 PM
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I have only now seen the summary and certain analyzes of the Real Madrid - Barcelona match. I must say that I am very impressed with Barcelona's game. They are a bit like Barcelona in the time of Xavi and Iniesta. Maybe it was incidental, but it certainly gives confidence. Real Madrid is actually completely outplayed. At times it seemed like a machine that Barcelona showed. And fun for the fans to see. The only strange thing is that this match was not played in Spain but in the Middle East. If Barcelona continues to play like this, they are the absolute favorites to win the league. But maybe it was incidental what they showed.
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January 18, 2023, 07:54:47 PM
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really interesting. should I venture Cheesy . But almost everyone will definitely feel confident about Barcelona's victory. unless a big surprise happens in the fight. This reminds me a bit of my luck on the World Cup bet when Argentina vs Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately in this fight I have absolutely no doubt that Barcelona will win quite easily. Because after all, statistically Barcelona is very convincing in this match.
But looking at the odds, I personally don't really want something like this because it's really not really worth it in my opinion.
I prefer to bet that only Barcelona can score and I will also bet that Barcelona can score 2 goals in this match. It's still more interesting than having to look at 1.18 for a Barcelona win because it's too small.

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January 18, 2023, 07:56:23 PM
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It has been five years since Barcelona won the Super Cup the last time. I don't think they will care about it much less than the other games. I will be expecting Xavi to have his usual starting eleven here and they would fight hard for the title. Bookmakers are also seeing Barcelona as very highly the favourite side. But I still find these odds quite interesting.

Because Betis are not one of the teams to be underestimated. They are doing a good job in the La Liga recently and they will be an important threat to Barcelona here as well. I wouldn't bet on Barcelona win considering how much low the odd is now.

Well, Xavi's starting XI might bring him good results, but I really doubt that they can do much, I hope that they can play a good game in the Europa League against Manchester United first, that's what I hope because everything they've done in the league that they are first, they cannot lose the opportunity to win in the Europa League, before I used to think that Barcelona was better than they could do it in a better way, however I think that now I see Xavi's players more committed I think that if they put their minds to it, they can make a great Europa League and ensure that they don't fall back there but rather stay in the UCL.


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I'm sure Xavi was very happy with the win, but that doesn't make him very satisfied, because he still has goals that they still have to fight for, namely La Liga and also the European League. But at least, this can be a little medicine for their lack of success in the Champions League although it may not be able to cure 100%. They continue to strive to play very well, Xavi encourages and coaches them. That's why La Liga is more interesting now than it was last season, isn't it? Because the El Classico we've all been hoping for is really back again.
Even if they did bring the Trophy but only being satisfied with it was clearly a mistake. This trophy can be considered not too important if their goals are La Liga and Europa League. Even if they got a good thing for this victory because at least they have the trophy back after a few seasons out but indeed this cannot be used as satisfaction now because they still have a lot of work to do in this regard.
The target for the Europa League still has a challenge in the play offs because there is Manchester United and for La Liga even though Madrid are 3 points behind now but this is not something they can celebrate quickly considering there are still quite a lot of games.

At least Xavi has a plus even though the Supercopa de Espana trophy is not very prestigious. however, what is interesting is that this match presents a battle between two Spanish League giants who compete with prestige. on the other hand, Barcelona's victory over Madrid at the same time broke the pessimism that initially Barcelona would not be able to topple its rival.

With this result it is hoped that Barcelona will be on the right track, although we cannot be sure whether Barcelona's performance will continue to be stable. even so, at least Barcelona has a great chance to win the La Liga trophy this season. on one condition, Xavi can ensure his troops are on the right track.

As for the Europa League, Xavi has emphasized on several occasions that Barcelona are targeting two trophies at once this season. I think as a coach he knows what he has to do. after all, Barcelona will not take their opponent lightly in the playoffs considering that United are in fairly good form.

Well, this is something that should be highlighted, Xavi has done well, and that should be highlighted, even though the Spanish Super Cup is not such a relevant award if it could be thankful to the teams that are considered the biggest in Spain and the La Liga, so it was something interesting, every time these two teams meet, it's obviously a spectacle, we can make exceptions with other teams, but BARCELONA is a team that has improved remarkably, in particular it has surprised me a lot because I didn't think they would recover like this, in fact I like that because the great rivalry between Real Madrid and Barcelona is coming again, and as I said before, I'm not a Barcelona fan at all, but I hope they can win against Man United now I see better alignment in everything.

Xavi’s role in convincing in-form defender to join Barcelona in the summer – report



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After what could be termed as a rather difficult start to his new life in Barcelona, summer signing Andreas Christensen has now settled well, playing full 90 minutes in three of Barcelona’s last four outings across all competitions.

He has put in commanding displays in recent matches, with the away game against Atletico Madrid perhaps being the Dane’s best performance in the Barcelona shirt. 

Lining up alongside Ronald Araujo in central defence, the former Chelsea defender ended the game with the most passes completed (86). Add to it, he also had the second-most touches from either team (100) and also made the second-most ball recoveries (nine).

Source: https://barcauniversal.com/xavis-role-in-convincing-in-form-defender-to-join-barcelona-in-the-summer-report/

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January 18, 2023, 08:00:33 PM
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However, if I may argue, Barcelona's midfield was slightly superior to Real Madrid in that match. It is undeniable that Barcelona's midfielders are much more creative to carry out attacks, while Real Madrid they have senior players in the midfield such as Modric and Kroos but it seems they lack coordination to organize attacks so that the flow of the ball towards the Barcelona defense is a little disturbed, Camavinga who becomes the defensive midfielder replacing Tchouameni also played very badly and seemed to be a mess in Real Madrid's midfield, plus Vini Jr. always being shut down especially by Araujo and that also had a significant impact on Real Madrid being unable to do anything.

Barcelona midfield actually won them the game but the defense was superb. I think Madrid got it wrong in the midfield combination. The absence of Tchouameni brought in Camavinga into the line up which influenced how Madrid played. Camavinga doesn’t have the ability to play a lone DM to allow kroos more freedom to move forward. Ancelloti should have played Valverde there, he is more experienced in matches like this.

Nonetheless this super cup win could be a moral booster to Barcelona to go for the League this season and could also shape Madrid’s performance they will be hurting and would like to anything possible to get back at Barcelona by winning the league
The absence of Tchouameni greatly affected the performance of Real Madrid's midfield, but if you look at the second half when Rodrygo came on to replace Camavinga in the second half, Valverde was pulled back to become a defensive midfielder. But it all felt in vain because Barcelona had won 2 goals plus in the 69th minute Barcelona scored their 3rd goal which made Real Madrid's hopes vanish to win the Spanish Super Cup.

With this result, I agree that Barcelona will continue to perform at its best, while Real Madrid must immediately improve its performance, especially in the midfield, which is the flow of the ball which is important for carrying out good attacks.

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January 18, 2023, 08:00:37 PM
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Valencia achieved a 0-4 win in the cup. Atletico Madrid should normally have no problems away from Levante either, but Atletico are anything but doing well at the moment. The differences in the sub-top are really very small. The numbers 4 to 8 differ in total by only 1 point from each other. It remains remarkable that Barcelona have only conceded 6 goals in all matches so far. That says something about the defensive skills of this team. If you concede little to no goals, you automatically become champion. They always score once and so small victories are enough to become champions. Real Madrid will be shocked how Barcelona played football against them for the Super Cup last weekend.

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January 18, 2023, 08:02:58 PM
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After the defeat in the Spanish Super Cup it should be that Anceloti began to come to his senses. Aware Barcelona were in a good position and had the best game so they lost in the final. Therefore, Anceloti should start thinking about buying new players, to improve the game. This is because the transfer market is still going on. I fear they will lose the La Liga Cup this season.
Agree with what you said, At the moment Madrid clearly has to bring in players in any case. Ancelotti has always said that they can force it with the current squad but looking at the conditions this is not enough because indeed they are still losing especially with some of their poor performances during the last few games.
There must be at least 1 midfield player to regenerate again and this one attacker is better.

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January 18, 2023, 08:04:13 PM
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We have Copa del Rey matches before the next fixtures in the La Liga. I see that Barcelona's opponent is very easy to beat. But I can't say the same thing for Real Madrid's. Because they are going to face a team that beat them in the La Liga before. Why wouldn't Villarreal do the same here again as well? It is up to how much Real Madrid players thrive for the win of course. I didn't like them against Barcelona in the Super Cup match at all. They seemed very different than the last El Clasico.

If Villarreal manage to show a strong performance as they did in the La Liga then Real Madrid would be under danger of being eliminated for sure. But I think Ancelotti will motivate his players this time.

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January 18, 2023, 08:23:39 PM
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After the defeat in the Spanish Super Cup it should be that Anceloti began to come to his senses. Aware Barcelona were in a good position and had the best game so they lost in the final. Therefore, Anceloti should start thinking about buying new players, to improve the game. This is because the transfer market is still going on. I fear they will lose the La Liga Cup this season.
Agree with what you said, At the moment Madrid clearly has to bring in players in any case. Ancelotti has always said that they can force it with the current squad but looking at the conditions this is not enough because indeed they are still losing especially with some of their poor performances during the last few games.
There must be at least 1 midfield player to regenerate again and this one attacker is better.
maybe it's a good option for ancelotti to sign one of the most experienced players of the highest quality for the front line. Real Madrid has just been humiliated by Barcelona in the Spanish Super Cup and this indicates that the Real Madrid squad really has a gap to fix. but for the laliga competition I think the is still very long and there is a possibility that real madrid will again win rank place from barcelona.

real madrid will need to initiate a swift transition to fill the gap in their squad depth. several players must be filled with new faces, especially for Karim Benzema who has been injured so many times that ancelotti has to find the right figure for that position.

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January 18, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
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If you look at the percentage of points scored by Real and Barcelona, then we can say that three points is a very big advantage. But the fact works in favor of Real that in case of equality of points, the first indicator for determining the champion is the result of personal meetings. It turns out one defeat of Barcelona (or the victory of Real in a personal meeting) and Real will return to the top.
As for the decline in Real Madrid, this is normal - it happens to all teams and Barcelona will not be spared either. You can't go through the whole season "exactly".

Yes, I agree with you that three points are a lot of points because we have seen a lot of teams win the league with only a one-point margin. But the thing that concerns me is that Real Madrid's performance is degrading over time and I think one of the main reasons is their defense. They had a really good start to the season right now they are struggling both on defense and attack as Karim Benzema alone can only do so much.

I think it's too early to draw conclusions. Firstly, the distance will show who has distributed forces more correctly for the season, and secondly, probably the next match by which it will be possible to judge the strength of Real Madrid is a game with Liverpool.
Defeats happen to all clubs - as we have seen, both PSG and City lose sometimes. And recessions in the game happen to everyone, perhaps now Real Madrid has such a mini-recession.

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