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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.2%)
Real Madrid - 81 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.7%)
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July 08, 2023, 10:49:08 AM
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Risks must be taken, I actually don't know this player, but after I saw footage of him playing, I think this player has the potential to become a famous player in the future.
As a young player, I agree with you that he will most likely not develop and so on which will make him a player who ultimately does not continue his shine. But that can be overcome as long as he can work hard.
I believe that there are players who already have talent from birth, and there are players who create their talent through hard work.

Not many people know about this player he only plays in the Turkey League with Fenerbahce, what makes me curious is at the age of 18 he managed to take place in Turkey main squad even scored one goal in 4 matches so I understand why Real Madrid brought it with a transfer fee of 20 million. Real Madrid was lucky to bring him because last season  Arda Guler was the target of Barcelona and AC Milan even Barcelona almost reached an agreement with 17 million but failed because of the regulations related to the player's salary.

I will not deny if you doubt the future of this player because we know that Madrid is not a team that usually gives rise to new talents except Vinicius Junior, they prefer to bring players who are ready to fight but this time let them try it or maybe another option is loaned like Brahim Diaz loaned to AC Milan last season.
Now we just need to see how the youngster adapts to Madrid because at his age and with his confidence, he could be a good alternative for Madrid in the future and of course if he develops, he will be another asset for Madrid in addition to other youngsters like Valverde, Vini and Rodrygo.
Doubts remain at his age and there have not been any matches for him in Madrid but in this case when he makes a good contribution when he is given the opportunity then indeed the judgement about the doubts may change.

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July 08, 2023, 11:06:50 AM
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This is an excellent signing by Real Madrid; the Spanish club definitely understands how to be a Galacticos with the way they reshape, rebuild and also strengthen their squad players through out different cycle. Slowly but surely; Real Madrid has assembled a very young squad of excellent and technical geniuses.

With a search for a striker ongoing; and a new coach soon; i just Real Madrid to resume their dominance again!
I am happy for this kid,  he came from playing at the top and fulfilled his dream by joining Fenerbahçe, then moving on to the world-renowned Real Madrid. He climbed towards his goal at a young age, and that's truly commendable. His talent is something unreal, technically an extraordinary and fantastic player. I am also happy for him because he has Modric in his corner. We may actually be looking at the future best Attacking midfielder the world has ever seen.

If he gets the chance to play enough, I'm sure he will be very successful. This kid just needs experience, the whole world thinks the same about how talented he is. We may be watching one of the brightest players of the future. I hope he doesn't suffer any injuries and can perform well at Real Madrid, I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about him in the years to come Smiley

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July 08, 2023, 11:41:23 AM
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I know recruiting young players who already have more talent in the recruitment of a big team they can expect him to grow and can be sold at high prices in the future, so I will never say Arda Güler will be immediately popular in Real Madrid he will definitely be many on the bench.

I think he will not become a business object. I think Madrid's goal is for achievement. Let's see, he is still quite young. Real Madrid made a bet by buying this young player. I wish he wasn't like Kubo. Maybe the same from Asia Guler has better posture. I hope he can perform optimally and be ready for a long-term Madrid project. Hopefully he can adapt well, doesn't become a failed transfer. Maybe the hope is he is better than Benzema.

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July 08, 2023, 11:53:19 AM
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I think he will not become a business object. I think Madrid's goal is for achievement. Let's see, he is still quite young. Real Madrid made a bet by buying this young player. I wish he wasn't like Kubo. Maybe the same from Asia Guler has better posture. I hope he can perform optimally and be ready for a long-term Madrid project. Hopefully he can adapt well, doesn't become a failed transfer. Maybe the hope is he is better than Benzema.
Man, he's not even a pure striker, it's not possible to compare him with Benzema. He's a right midfielder player, I think he's the next Valverde because he's flexible, he have a good pass and he know to find the right moment. Yeah Kubo was a failed transfer by Real Madrid, but it seems no problem for them because every club ever done wrong sign a player. Signing a young player is risky, he could develop become a great player or a nothing.
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July 08, 2023, 11:55:11 AM
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Now we just need to see how the youngster adapts to Madrid because at his age and with his confidence, he could be a good alternative for Madrid in the future and of course if he develops, he will be another asset for Madrid in addition to other youngsters like Valverde, Vini and Rodrygo.
Doubts remain at his age and there have not been any matches for him in Madrid but in this case when he makes a good contribution when he is given the opportunity then indeed the judgement about the doubts may change.
we must not doubt the young players who have just been brought in by Real Madrid and we must always want that there are very many young players who have talent, it's just that they don't have experience and this is the best choice to combine young players with old players to give each other a positive contribution. good and give each other the spirit of experience to be able to dominate in La Liga in the summer.

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July 08, 2023, 12:55:30 PM
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Now we just need to see how the youngster adapts to Madrid because at his age and with his confidence, he could be a good alternative for Madrid in the future and of course if he develops, he will be another asset for Madrid in addition to other youngsters like Valverde, Vini and Rodrygo.
Doubts remain at his age and there have not been any matches for him in Madrid but in this case when he makes a good contribution when he is given the opportunity then indeed the judgement about the doubts may change.
we must not doubt the young players who have just been brought in by Real Madrid and we must always want that there are very many young players who have talent, it's just that they don't have experience and this is the best choice to combine young players with old players to give each other a positive contribution. good and give each other the spirit of experience to be able to dominate in La Liga in the summer.
If I don't want to be doubted then I can't help but be underestimated, Arda Guller and Madrid must prove that their choice is very correct.
Actually there is no mistake and certainly every club expects talented young players but a really good fit and adaptation must still be seen because even though the potential is high but when there is no proof then this is also difficult to convince, right.
We can not only see the positive side when a potential young player comes in but also have to see some other conditions and the worst possibilities.
It would be great if it was like Valverde, Vini or Rodrygo in terms of performance but if it ends up being like Mariano then indeed this will also be very difficult for Madrid, Isnt it?

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July 08, 2023, 01:21:21 PM
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I still remember Real Madrid really wasting some of its young talent a few seasons ago. Martin Ødegaard is one of the players I'm talking about, he has grown into a really great midfielder at Arsenal while Real Madrid failed to develop his great skills. 

Everyone says this about Martin Ødegaard but then this is not Real Madrid fault haha; Martin Ødegaard wasn't cut out to succeed at Real Madrid and thats just it. Infact, no midfielder in the entire world would displace Kroos, Modric and Casemiro from the Real Madrid line up in those amazing 5 years when Real Madrid won 4 champions league titles.

Instead it was Martin Ødegaard who wasn't cut out to compete for game time against those stars; for example, Camavinga despite his young age competed for games and got good performance in the champions league quarters and semi finals, what did Martin Ødegaard did in his chances? he flopped. In the end, i am happy for Martin Ødegaard career turn in London with Arsenal.
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After ending his contract with PSG, Real Madrid is a very reasonable place for Mbappe to train and shine. He's talented, he's young. It's a waste to stay at PSG. I think Real Madrid will be the place to train him to become a killer goalscorer like Ronaldo. He is lacking good teachers, a professional training environment, and high discipline. Real Madrid do a great job in that regard.
The question is whether Real Madrid will still want to buy him when they already have Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo.

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July 08, 2023, 02:16:36 PM
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After ending his contract with PSG, Real Madrid is a very reasonable place for Mbappe to train and shine. He's talented, he's young. It's a waste to stay at PSG. I think Real Madrid will be the place to train him to become a killer goalscorer like Ronaldo. He is lacking good teachers, a professional training environment, and high discipline. Real Madrid do a great job in that regard.
The question is whether Real Madrid will still want to buy him when they already have Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo.
That's not the case, Vini and Rodygo are open to Mbappe, it's just that PSG won't let that happen until Mbappe has given up on being sold or extending his contract. For Mbappe, now feels the risk because he used to play with Madrid's feelings and decided to extend his contract, but after the transfer season opened he tried to trick PSG by saying he wanted to finish the contract and wanted to leave for free, precisely this is where PSG's role is to continue to curb Mbappe freedom.

So I finally understood the consequences that befell Mbappe from his own decisions last season. So, Madrid was willing to buy it from PSG, but gradually the price continued to rise until it exceeded Madrid budget limit for this season's expenses. Like it or not, I don't think Mbappe can move freely.

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July 08, 2023, 02:25:22 PM
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There are plenty of examples where the performance of last season is not a good indicator for the next season. Who would have thought that Liverpool would ever collapse like that and even miss the Champions League? They recovered quite a bit towards the end of the season, but last season doesn't matter. If it was true what you are saying, what about Real Madrid who became the champion with 13 points ahead of Barcelona prior to last season? This really depends on how new players get integrated, whether the core of the team stays healthy or gets injured and so on and so forth.
Of course every season will always be different, a strong team will maintain its performance while a team that is down will struggle to get up and everything is possible to happen, it is impossible for a team to always be on top and vice versa.
In La Liga competition often occurs between Real Madrid and Barcelona and these two teams take turns to beat each other, so last season cannot be a benchmark that it will be the same again in the following season.
Barcelona and Real Madrid are arch rivals in La Liga. A Barcelona vs Real Madrid match means a different kind of excitement. If Real Madrid wins the league title in any season, Barcelona wins the league title in the next season. Fans of each team are as happy to win against each other as they are to win the Champions League. When Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo, Sergio Ramos were in La Liga, La Liga was one of the best leagues in Europe. The popularity of this league has decreased somewhat as most of the star players have left for other leagues. Although the popularity of this league has decreased relatively, people still look forward to watch the rivalry between Barcelona and Real Madrid.

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July 08, 2023, 02:26:25 PM
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I think he will not become a business object. I think Madrid's goal is for achievement. Let's see, he is still quite young. Real Madrid made a bet by buying this young player. I wish he wasn't like Kubo. Maybe the same from Asia Guler has better posture. I hope he can perform optimally and be ready for a long-term Madrid project. Hopefully he can adapt well, doesn't become a failed transfer. Maybe the hope is he is better than Benzema.
Man, he's not even a pure striker, it's not possible to compare him with Benzema. He's a right midfielder player, I think he's the next Valverde because he's flexible, he have a good pass and he know to find the right moment. Yeah Kubo was a failed transfer by Real Madrid, but it seems no problem for them because every club ever done wrong sign a player. Signing a young player is risky, he could develop become a great player or a nothing.
Looking at some of Arda Güler's video shows he seems to have good skills in processing his ball this is exactly the same as Bernardo Silva in terms of his game as an attacking midfielder, Real Madrid will still know his potential how forward he is, maybe it will be very good if he continues to develop in helping Real Madrid's attack.

Of the many failed transfers but there have been many successful ones from that transfer, so it's not a big problem for Real Madrid about the failure of the players recruited this is indeed common even with expensive purchases there are those who do not match their expectations.

But I think this Arda Güler will be his future expectation, if seen from his ball carrying skills.

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July 08, 2023, 02:29:40 PM
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Judging by Zidane's recent words about a quick return to work, I don't think it should be understood as a return in a year. Also, as far as I remember, the last time Zinedine Zidane and Florentino Perez seemed to have parted in labor relations in not the best human relations at the same time. Although quite recently it was said about Zidane's return to the club, but not to a coaching position. However, this is a mega club and here everyone is not obliged to adore the other if a result is needed. And in an interview, Zidane said exactly about coaching. Therefore, most likely not. Most likely, Zidane would like to try himself in new conditions and at a new club.
Zidane is still far from managing the new club. He is not even saying a single word regarding this. I remember he has been confirming that if he is not wanna try to be signed as a new coach. Everything about him still remains uncertain at this moment. I don't even think zidane gonna try to announce his comeback to the professional football as a coach very soon.
Zidane seemingly to be the potential candidate to replace ancelotti soon. Ancelotti already expected to leave real madrid next year.
That means the chance for him to be a coach for real madrid is quite bigger right now than before. There is also another candidate, and he is xabi alonso which is coaching leverkusen now.
So many names being lined up to replace ancelotti but we are still one year away from seeing the new coach of real madrid.
Anyone shall not rush it.

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July 08, 2023, 02:34:14 PM
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I think he will not become a business object. I think Madrid's goal is for achievement. Let's see, he is still quite young. Real Madrid made a bet by buying this young player. I wish he wasn't like Kubo. Maybe the same from Asia Guler has better posture. I hope he can perform optimally and be ready for a long-term Madrid project. Hopefully he can adapt well, doesn't become a failed transfer. Maybe the hope is he is better than Benzema.
Man, he's not even a pure striker, it's not possible to compare him with Benzema. He's a right midfielder player, I think he's the next Valverde because he's flexible, he have a good pass and he know to find the right moment. Yeah Kubo was a failed transfer by Real Madrid, but it seems no problem for them because every club ever done wrong sign a player. Signing a young player is risky, he could develop become a great player or a nothing.
Looking at some of Arda Güler's video shows he seems to have good skills in processing his ball this is exactly the same as Bernardo Silva in terms of his game as an attacking midfielder, Real Madrid will still know his potential how forward he is, maybe it will be very good if he continues to develop in helping Real Madrid's attack.

Of the many failed transfers but there have been many successful ones from that transfer, so it's not a big problem for Real Madrid about the failure of the players recruited this is indeed common even with expensive purchases there are those who do not match their expectations.

But I think this Arda Güler will be his future expectation, if seen from his ball carrying skills.

The words of the president of Real Madrid about Arda Güler are very important. A magician was missing from our team, and now we have it. Arda Guler is not a striker. He was on the right side of the midfield in his previous team. But he can also play in the central midfield as his ball skill is very high. His physique has improved tremendously last season and his stamina has increased in the game. He is a very technical player. When he added his physique to his technique, his transfer to Real Madrid is proof that he can be a star. I think it will be successful. He will get used to the team very quickly, because he really shows us his potential to be a star with his technique and stance on the field.
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July 08, 2023, 03:07:59 PM
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After ending his contract with PSG, Real Madrid is a very reasonable place for Mbappe to train and shine. He's talented, he's young. It's a waste to stay at PSG. I think Real Madrid will be the place to train him to become a killer goalscorer like Ronaldo. He is lacking good teachers, a professional training environment, and high discipline. Real Madrid do a great job in that regard.
The question is whether Real Madrid will still want to buy him when they already have Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo.

Benzema left Real Madrid and Real Madrid haven't been able to sign a good player to replace him yet. If Mbappe was transferred to Real Madrid, we could watch the trio of Vinicius Junior, Rodrygo and Mbappe. However, Paris Saint-Germain FC chairman Nasser al-Khalfi said that Mbappe had to extend his contract to stay with the team. I think Nasser is right about that. Mbappe is one of the greatest football players in the world. And he can't leave the team for free. However, Florentino Pérez often makes statements that he can transfer Mbappe for free. I think he also knows he can't transfer Mbappe for free. But he uses such a tactic to negotiate the transfer fee. After all, time is running out for Real Madrid. And they don't have many alternatives. Mbappe or Kane are good choices for them. Let's see what will happen.

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July 08, 2023, 03:08:45 PM
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Of the many failed transfers but there have been many successful ones from that transfer, so it's not a big problem for Real Madrid about the failure of the players recruited this is indeed common even with expensive purchases there are those who do not match their expectations.

But I think this Arda Güler will be his future expectation, if seen from his ball carrying skills.
Arda Güler skills still need to be developed. He must continue to be on the radar of Madrid guards because many young players have been brought in with unclear status at the club. A lot has happened and for that, I hope that Arda Güler does not have the fate that I said above. The figure of Arda Güler has risen to the surface after being busy being brought to Barcelona, but here it is fortunate that Mesut Ozil has contributed to Madrid success. It was once called the Next Lionel Messi, but as we know Arda Güler has already fallen in love with Real Madrid.

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July 08, 2023, 03:18:20 PM
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There are plenty of examples where the performance of last season is not a good indicator for the next season. Who would have thought that Liverpool would ever collapse like that and even miss the Champions League? They recovered quite a bit towards the end of the season, but last season doesn't matter. If it was true what you are saying, what about Real Madrid who became the champion with 13 points ahead of Barcelona prior to last season? This really depends on how new players get integrated, whether the core of the team stays healthy or gets injured and so on and so forth.

I also share your view, last season performance will not serve as criteria for the next season. Another typical example is the case of Chelsea. The Blues spend close to $500m to get new quality players and most people expected that at least they will be able to make it to the top four in the Premiership. It turned out to be the opposite because Chelsea ended up in 12th place. Chelsea had so many issues with new players integrating with the team. The team that finished 13th last season might end up winning the league next season.


Yes and you brought up another example here how investments and past season performances are no guarantee for future successful results. There is probably a list of things to be written down that are bad at predicting the future. Normally I would think that a $500 million (I think it was even more than that...) investment into the team should give Chelsea some edge over others, but it was so bad that they didn't even qualify for the European competitions. But there are teams that are set up so well and are so coherent in terms of everything that some success is essentially guaranteed. Manchester City would not miss the top four next season unless crazy unforeseen things happen. But this is also an achievement of Pep Guardiola because although it took him so long to win the Champions League again, he has never been out of inner fire and he understands like no other coach in the world how to pass on that inner fire to his players.

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July 08, 2023, 03:23:02 PM
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I think Barcelona will not be as good as last season because they cannot get many new players and only old players are left. This is all because Barcelona's finances are so bad that they cannot bring in other great players.
Even though at this time Real Madrid has got a new, talented and young player who is able to compete with Barcelona.
It is possible that in the next season Barcelona's position will be taken over by Real Madrid.
Anyhow, the transfer window is still open and there are still opportunities for Barcelona to get new players, although their finances are still bad, but maybe they will sell players again to get new players. But I'm also not too sure because I also haven't found any new rumors about Barcelona, lol. About Real Madrid they are have no trouble getting new players because their finances are not same with Barcelona, but regarding the title Barcelona may still be the favorites if Real Madrid doesn't have a reliable striker like Benzema before.

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July 08, 2023, 03:33:22 PM
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Anyhow, the transfer window is still open and there are still opportunities for Barcelona to get new players, although their finances are still bad, but maybe they will sell players again to get new players. But I'm also not too sure because I also haven't found any new rumors about Barcelona, lol. About Real Madrid they are have no trouble getting new players because their finances are not same with Barcelona, but regarding the title Barcelona may still be the favorites if Real Madrid doesn't have a reliable striker like Benzema before.
Madrid has better finances than Barcelona, of course, they can get players with better consideration. Like their latest recruit related to Arda Guler, who was previously rumored to be getting closer to Barcelona. but it was Madrid who managed to get the player's signature. he is still very young and it would be good for him to get into a club as good as Madrid. He can be a big player in the future.
Regarding the replacement for Benzema, I think Madrid will have to be patient to get him. not this season, but maybe next season. Madrid is still hunting for a striker.

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Of course every season will always be different, a strong team will maintain its performance while a team that is down will struggle to get up and everything is possible to happen, it is impossible for a team to always be on top and vice versa.
In La Liga competition often occurs between Real Madrid and Barcelona and these two teams take turns to beat each other, so last season cannot be a benchmark that it will be the same again in the following season.
The majority of people consistently use the previous season as a gauge for the upcoming season, which is incorrect because some players even transfer, making it impossible to forecast what will happen. In the case of Arsenal, who would have thought that they would not win the Premier League? However, it turned out that Manchester flipped, and ever since, they have been unable to compete in the league. In La Liga, you are correct in saying that there are only two clubs other than Real Madrid and Barcelona but don't be shocked to see another club dominating as champion.

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July 08, 2023, 03:49:10 PM
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Of the many failed transfers but there have been many successful ones from that transfer, so it's not a big problem for Real Madrid about the failure of the players recruited this is indeed common even with expensive purchases there are those who do not match their expectations.

But I think this Arda Güler will be his future expectation, if seen from his ball carrying skills.
Arda Güler skills still need to be developed. He must continue to be on the radar of Madrid guards because many young players have been brought in with unclear status at the club. A lot has happened and for that, I hope that Arda Güler does not have the fate that I said above. The figure of Arda Güler has risen to the surface after being busy being brought to Barcelona, but here it is fortunate that Mesut Ozil has contributed to Madrid success. It was once called the Next Lionel Messi, but as we know Arda Güler has already fallen in love with Real Madrid.

But according to the news circulating, that if I'm not mistaken Arda Güler is Ozil's cousin or nephew, or there are still such family ties. Don't know the truth either, but if it's true then maybe Arda Güler will have great potential like Ozil in the future or maybe even better. After all, it seems that Real Madrid also has high hopes for Arda Güler, because at least this hope is reflected in the contract Real Madrid has given him. That being said, Real Madrid gave a long duration until 2029 and that means, Arda Güler will be able to develop his skills to become even better at Real Madrid.

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