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Question: 2024/2025 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 22 (42.3%)
Real Madrid - 27 (51.9%)
Atletico Madrid - 0 (0%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 0 (0%)
Villareal - 1 (1.9%)
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May 28, 2021, 07:21:30 PM
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Koeman has worked hard and I think the results from his first season is acceptable. Fans want to win as many titles as possible but in the last summer, I did not believe that Barcelona will be able to win any title in this season.

They won Coppa del Rey and want to win La Liga. They should be realistic with what they have and how they began this season.

When Koeman took charge of Barcelona, ​​at the start of the season, Barcelona was a team that was completely upset. There was no coordination between the players. Koeman has stabilized the team enough. Aguero has joined Barcelona this season. As a result, one more experienced player has grown in Barcelona's forward lineup. If Koeman is able to make Barcelona's defense a little stronger, Barcelona will be unstoppable next season.

I agree. Acceptable. I'm still personally not super convinced about Koeman but I believe that we all need to exercise patience with a manager and allow him to have his strategy in place. Look at Pep look at Klopp and learn the lessons of successful clubs at England. Barca have been in need of a rehaul since a long time now so we might as well do it with the Dutch national hero.
If we have patience and believe in Koeman, I think he will be able to organize the Barcelona team more beautifully. But Koeman should look at the small mistakes of the team. Barcelona have lost many matches against weaker teams due to their own mistakes. In addition to organizing the team properly, the players also need to correct such small mistakes.

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May 28, 2021, 09:26:07 PM
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Will Koeman stay at Barca?
Though Barca did take home silverware with the Copa del Rey and the Spanish Super Cup, they fell short in the two competitions they value above all others - La Liga and the Champions League. That has left Koeman's future unclear as the Catalans decide whether they will let him complete the second of his two-year contract.
Laporta and Koeman's situation will probably lead to some wild rumors about his future at Barcelona. But I think it's good for Barcelona because I really hope Koeman won't spend his contract period at Barcelona. Barcelona need a coach who can raise their morale which is starting to weaken, which mean they must get rid of Koeman and find a replacement as soon as possible. I might want to see Xavi coach the team, but that probably won't happen any time soon.

I agree. Barcelona can make use of a much better manager. They need to gather themselves up and they need new and better players also. Conte is available for teams but it seems like he is closer to Real Madrid. Xavi might be a good choice as he is one of the legends of the club. But I hope that his end doesn't become like Pirlo's at Juventus.  Grin

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May 28, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
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Meanwhile,  according to ESPN, Wasserman, a company that represents Koeman isn't happy with his current situation at Barcelona especially with the statements that Laporta made in today's press conference. This is what they had to say


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May 28, 2021, 10:42:44 PM
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Meanwhile,  according to ESPN, Wasserman, a company that represents Koeman isn't happy with his current situation at Barcelona especially with the statements that Laporta made in today's press conference. This is what they had to say
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So far, Koeman saved Barcelona from a humiliating mid-table position. The team before him was crap, useless with a bunch of loosers. After he came, although I disliked him first, I find that he did what should be done but you cannot make magical things with oldies. The team has to get a fresh update which is in the way. I don't think switching him with another manager will make things better while keeping the same players. Anyway, the team might improve with him right now.

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Meanwhile,  according to ESPN, Wasserman, a company that represents Koeman isn't happy with his current situation at Barcelona especially with the statements that Laporta made in today's press conference. This is what they had to say
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So far, Koeman saved Barcelona from a humiliating mid-table position. The team before him was crap, useless with a bunch of loosers. After he came, although I disliked him first, I find that he did what should be done but you cannot make magical things with oldies. The team has to get a fresh update which is in the way. I don't think switching him with another manager will make things better while keeping the same players. Anyway, the team might improve with him right now.
Agree, at first I was also unhappy with the way Koeman let Suarez go and then looking at the Barcelona situation at the same time was very bad. But over time we can see the progress Koeman has made and it does take time. So there is no more good reason to replace Koeman, because after all, defending him would be better because the adaptations that are already underway will definitely make the strategy that will be implemented later that might put Barcelona on the winning track.

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May 28, 2021, 10:51:33 PM
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If the start of the season had been good for them, then Barcelona would have been the champions of this season.
Although Barcelona could play well at the beginning of this season, it doesn't guarantee winning the La Liga title. Barcelona might play worse in the mid of the season or towards the end of the season. So, you cannot conclude Barcelona winning the title if they played perfectly at the beginning of the season. However, if Barcelona can play better at the beginning of the season, Barcelona probably ends the season with better achievement.

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May 28, 2021, 11:04:54 PM
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Meanwhile,  according to ESPN, Wasserman, a company that represents Koeman isn't happy with his current situation at Barcelona especially with the statements that Laporta made in today's press conference. This is what they had to say
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So far, Koeman saved Barcelona from a humiliating mid-table position. The team before him was crap, useless with a bunch of loosers. After he came, although I disliked him first, I find that he did what should be done but you cannot make magical things with oldies. The team has to get a fresh update which is in the way. I don't think switching him with another manager will make things better while keeping the same players. Anyway, the team might improve with him right now.
Agree, at first I was also unhappy with the way Koeman let Suarez go and then looking at the Barcelona situation at the same time was very bad. But over time we can see the progress Koeman has made and it does take time. So there is no more good reason to replace Koeman, because after all, defending him would be better because the adaptations that are already underway will definitely make the strategy that will be implemented later that might put Barcelona on the winning track.
Me 2 i am still not convinced of what is happening in Barcelona administration, there have been lots of lack of clarity between Laporta and Koeman,
If he wants to work in the best possible way, he must first get support in front of everyone, and this is what the current Barca administration did not show. If you see in Koeman the wrong man to train the team in the future and want to change him, why do not you hasten to make the decision as soon as possible and give the new coach more time that will be useful for his future work in preparing a market for sale and purchase according to what he sees and according to his opinions and philosophy This will guarantee a greater success rate for the next season;
As for if the Barca administration wants to keep Koeman, why not go out to the public and say frankly to the match that the Dutchman will remain, which is the basis for this future project . because such hazy behavior will put the team’s season in danger of fatal distrust.
Likewise, all the news and conversations from time to time about engagements inside Barça is a very stupid and reactionary matter from the team’s media and also from the administration. Every moment you hear about a new player close to Barça and then disappear into the mirage of rumors and only the audience is affected. Months ago, everyone was talking Laporta will repeat Neymar in his first big steps that he promised, and then their talk about Haaland's father and the player's proximity to Barcelona It is still only Messi's file that if not renewed with the team, it will be a blow to this administration in this short period.
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May 28, 2021, 11:27:00 PM
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If the start of the season had been good for them, then Barcelona would have been the champions of this season.
Although Barcelona could play well at the beginning of this season, it doesn't guarantee winning the La Liga title. Barcelona might play worse in the mid of the season or towards the end of the season. So, you cannot conclude Barcelona winning the title if they played perfectly at the beginning of the season. However, if Barcelona can play better at the beginning of the season, Barcelona probably ends the season with better achievement.
To become the champion of any team, it is desirable to play successfully all season, and not only or only the middle or only the end of the season  Wink In any case, Barcelona did not play well at the beginning of the season and in the end it was not enough for the coveted championship. I like to look at beautiful stories when a team fails the first part of the season, and then heroically makes its way to the top or even becomes a champion, but it is much more reliable without excessive heroism to take your points in matches with teams lower in the class and without any hassle to do the result, the good composition of Barcelona quite allows it. I had a bunch of questions for Koeman as head coach at first, but I'm not sure if the second half of the season gives him an indulgence for next season. However, everything is in the hands of the club's management.
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Meanwhile,  according to ESPN, Wasserman, a company that represents Koeman isn't happy with his current situation at Barcelona especially with the statements that Laporta made in today's press conference. This is what they had to say
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So far, Koeman saved Barcelona from a humiliating mid-table position. The team before him was crap, useless with a bunch of loosers. After he came, although I disliked him first, I find that he did what should be done but you cannot make magical things with oldies. The team has to get a fresh update which is in the way. I don't think switching him with another manager will make things better while keeping the same players. Anyway, the team might improve with him right now.

Indeed, Koeman has not been able to give the best for Barcelona, but since Koeman handled it, I have seen Barcelona's performance has improved.
We can't get instant results, Laporta should give Koeman one more season. To make Barcelona return to its best form it takes time. After all, Barcelona
have to pay inexpensive compensation if they have to dismiss Koeman before his contract expires. And as you said Barcelona changing with another
coach does not necessarily immediately experience drastic changes, so it's not a good idea to lay off Koeman.

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For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html

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For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html
It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.

Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.

I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.

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May 29, 2021, 12:02:51 PM
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I agree. Barcelona can make use of a much better manager. They need to gather themselves up and they need new and better players also. Conte is available for teams but it seems like he is closer to Real Madrid. Xavi might be a good choice as he is one of the legends of the club. But I hope that his end doesn't become like Pirlo's at Juventus.  Grin
I know Koeman's accomplishment this season are better than Zidane because Barcelona managed to complete two title. But Laliga and the Champions League are far more important target than the Copa Del Rey and the Spanish Super League. Koeman doesn't have much experience there even though he has history in the Barcelona team.

In my opinion, every coach who join Barcelona usually has previous ties to the team and I don't think Conte will be considered. I would prefer Xavi over any other great coach who doesn't understand Barcelona's philosophy, and I'm sure every coach they sign will definitely not end up as badly as you think like Pirlo.

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May 29, 2021, 01:46:42 PM
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It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.

Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.

I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.
Real Madrid before Zidane wasn't good and with him, the situation went better but for a team that used to get a trophy, getting nothing this season wasn't acceptable by the administration.
I agree that there is old players that will no longer give their best performance, they need fresh blood in order to keep stable results in the future. Mbappe or haaland for example can give a boost to the team and their salaries could be paid by oldies and Hazard ones.

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May 29, 2021, 03:28:23 PM
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It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.

Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.

I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.
Real Madrid before Zidane wasn't good and with him, the situation went better but for a team that used to get a trophy, getting nothing this season wasn't acceptable by the administration.
I agree that there is old players that will no longer give their best performance, they need fresh blood in order to keep stable results in the future. Mbappe or haaland for example can give a boost to the team and their salaries could be paid by oldies and Hazard ones.
Antonio Conte more close candidate to be next coach for Real Madrid after last issues with Allegri have been sign with Juventus, I see Conte is stronger reason to be Real Madrid coach and still waiting where destination for Zidane next season, become for hic country coach or looking new adventure on primer league.

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May 29, 2021, 03:31:36 PM
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If we have patience and believe in Koeman, I think he will be able to organize the Barcelona team more beautifully. But Koeman should look at the small mistakes of the team. Barcelona have lost many matches against weaker teams due to their own mistakes. In addition to organizing the team properly, the players also need to correct such small mistakes.

Totally with you there. As I said many times before, not his biggest fan but I do want to stick with him and give him a try. He is a quality coach, and he had nothing to do with Suarez's exit (I hope), and he like ANY coach, needs plenty of time to implement a strategy. If Wijnaldum really comes though I'll wish he doesn't bring in more Dutch people just for the sake of it.

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For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html

He had great years at Real Madrid so far but this is the end of the road for him it seems. Whatever the reason is, I hope that he can go to another big team and help them achieve titles.
When it comes to the next manager of Real Madrid, there has been some rumours like Conte could take this position as he left Inter.

 
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May 29, 2021, 04:42:23 PM
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For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html

He had great years at Real Madrid so far but this is the end of the road for him it seems. Whatever the reason is, I hope that he can go to another big team and help them achieve titles.
When it comes to the next manager of Real Madrid, there has been some rumours like Conte could take this position as he left Inter.
Real Madrid doesn’t seem to find an experienced and clever coach like Zidane now. Real Madrid's squad is not very strong at the moment. At the same time, if they do not have an experienced coach, they will have to stay without any title next season too. The management of Real Madrid should either keep Zidane as a coach for one more year by any means.

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May 29, 2021, 09:58:12 PM
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I personally knew that he would leave even way before the last matches. I think most of the reasons for his departure come from the fact that Perez didn't agree to give him power to bring in players he wanted. Like at one point, he wanted to bring in Pogba to the club but nothing was done for the transfer to happen.

At this point, I even don't know who will help Real Madrid. Zidane did so much despite having so many injuries and most key players who are very old. But we shall wait and see who comes in.

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May 29, 2021, 10:57:15 PM
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It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.
Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.
I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.
In the current difficult times, when such super clubs as Real Madrid have serious financial problems, you need to count on the existing squad and count only on point reinforcements. By the way, Real Madrid does not have such a difficult financial situation as Inter, for example, when the club's management did not guarantee Conte not just the division of the squad for the Champions League, but simply the preservation of the current championship squad, which is why Conte was forced to leave the club.
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May 29, 2021, 11:14:49 PM
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It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.
Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.
I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.
In the current difficult times, when such super clubs as Real Madrid have serious financial problems, you need to count on the existing squad and count only on point reinforcements. By the way, Real Madrid does not have such a difficult financial situation as Inter, for example, when the club's management did not guarantee Conte not just the division of the squad for the Champions League, but simply the preservation of the current championship squad, which is why Conte was forced to leave the club.
Did you miss the news about Zidane's resignation from the Madrid coaching chair? I think it's accurate information because Madrid itself has authorized the resignation, or I was wrong. But yes, I found the news in the news media so I think it is true news and that also means, next season Madrid will have a new coach. Yes, Madrid must have a large amount of funds for the transfer market because after all, Madrid needs some more good players in several positions because then at least Madrid will remain on the winning track next season.

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