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June 10, 2021, 06:30:08 AM
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I'm not so sure about this. Ramos is getting old he needs to be regenerated, but playing for one season again with some new substitutes would be even better. Ramos can pass on his experience to new players who will come. I realized that Madrid had to regenerate their old players. It's like barca but it has to be done, but I need a process and this is anceloti's job right now. I prefer young players who have good progress and will be useful in the long term.
In Real Madrid, Ramos is considered as a barrier for growth of young players. Oppositely, in another club, if he joins them, he will be considered as Thiago Silva in Chelsea or Ibrahimovic in AC Milan. Those young players in those clubs need old and experienced players like Silva, Ibrahimovic and Ramos.

Ramos can get an important position and bigger respect in another club if he decides to leave Real Madrid.
I'm not sure about the barriers for young players, because if the coach still needs his services on the pitch then of course older players like Ramos will still be playing. We don't know the conversations that are taking place within the team because I'm sure senior players like Ramos will always have leadership qualities and that's what I believe, when there are quality young players it's possible for Ramos to let him play but again, the coach is the main factor because the coach who makes the strategy and which and what kind of players are suitable to carry out the strategy.

I think the ideal team should have old and experienced players. like Ramos who can lead the team and carry out the strategies instructed
by the coach. Sometimes if the team only contains young players and does not have old players, then the team will find it difficult to play
consistently. Experienced old players are used to dealing with the worst situations in a game, so when something bad happens, can motivate
other players to get up and win the game. So Ramos will be needed by a team that does not have experienced old players. But the latest news
says it's possible Ramos will stay at Real Madrid, after Ancelotti as the new manager of Real Madrid managed to convince Ramos to stay at Real Madrid.

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June 10, 2021, 07:00:50 AM
Last edit: June 10, 2021, 11:58:02 AM by Swordsoffreedom
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I'm not so sure about this. Ramos is getting old he needs to be regenerated, but playing for one season again with some new substitutes would be even better. Ramos can pass on his experience to new players who will come. I realized that Madrid had to regenerate their old players. It's like barca but it has to be done, but I need a process and this is anceloti's job right now. I prefer young players who have good progress and will be useful in the long term.
In Real Madrid, Ramos is considered as a barrier for growth of young players. Oppositely, in another club, if he joins them, he will be considered as Thiago Silva in Chelsea or Ibrahimovic in AC Milan. Those young players in those clubs need old and experienced players like Silva, Ibrahimovic and Ramos.
Ramos can get an important position and bigger respect in another club if he decides to leave Real Madrid.
I'm not sure about the barriers for young players, because if the coach still needs his services on the pitch then of course older players like Ramos will still be playing. We don't know the conversations that are taking place within the team because I'm sure senior players like Ramos will always have leadership qualities and that's what I believe, when there are quality young players it's possible for Ramos to let him play but again, the coach is the main factor because the coach who makes the strategy and which and what kind of players are suitable to carry out the strategy.
I think the ideal team should have old and experienced players. like Ramos who can lead the team and carry out the strategies instructed
by the coach. Sometimes if the team only contains young players and does not have old players, then the team will find it difficult to play
consistently. Experienced old players are used to dealing with the worst situations in a game, so when something bad happens, can motivate
other players to get up and win the game. So Ramos will be needed by a team that does not have experienced old players. But the latest news
says it's possible Ramos will stay at Real Madrid, after Ancelotti as the new manager of Real Madrid managed to convince Ramos to stay at Real Madrid.

It is a matter of having skilled and experienced players like Ramos in the squad. Maybe Ramos is older, but he's still in great form. There are a lot of experienced players in the Real Madrid team, so maybe even if Ramos is not at Real Madrid, Madrid won't have too many problems. But a skilled defender like Ramos will have to take Real Madrid to their team. If Real Madrid can't find the right replacement for Ramos, Real Madrid will have to pay for it.

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June 10, 2021, 10:41:13 AM
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It is a matter of having skilled and experienced players like Ramos in the squad. Maybe Ramos is older, but he's still in great form. There are a lot of experienced players in the Real Madrid team, so maybe even if Ramos is not at Real Madrid, Madrid won't have too many problems. But a skilled defender like Ramos will have to take Real Madrid to their team. If Real Madrid can't find the right replacement for Ramos, Real Madrid will have to pay for it.

I think what happened when Ramos left Madrid was that Madrid's defense was not optimal for 1-2 seasons until they found a player with skills that were at least potentially similar to Ramos. I remember what happened to AC Milan when Maldini left, Milan was lucky enough to have Silva at that time, when Milan depended on Maldini and Silva, when this player came out, Milan's defense became a bit bad. This also seems to be the case for Madrid when Ramos left (IMO).

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June 10, 2021, 01:26:43 PM
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It is a matter of having skilled and experienced players like Ramos in the squad. Maybe Ramos is older, but he's still in great form. There are a lot of experienced players in the Real Madrid team, so maybe even if Ramos is not at Real Madrid, Madrid won't have too many problems. But a skilled defender like Ramos will have to take Real Madrid to their team. If Real Madrid can't find the right replacement for Ramos, Real Madrid will have to pay for it.

I think what happened when Ramos left Madrid was that Madrid's defense was not optimal for 1-2 seasons until they found a player with skills that were at least potentially similar to Ramos. I remember what happened to AC Milan when Maldini left, Milan was lucky enough to have Silva at that time, when Milan depended on Maldini and Silva, when this player came out, Milan's defense became a bit bad. This also seems to be the case for Madrid when Ramos left (IMO).

Ramos and Benzema are behind Real Madrid's victory in almost every match at the moment. The other players on the team have contributed, of course, but Real Madrid is much more dependent on Ramos and Benzema. There are no more experienced and skilled players like Ramos. Real Madrid will not find a replacement for Ramos at this time. It would be best for Real Madrid if they put Ramos on the team next season and expel him after finding a replacement.

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June 10, 2021, 01:53:02 PM
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I think what happened when Ramos left Madrid was that Madrid's defense was not optimal for 1-2 seasons until they found a player with skills that were at least potentially similar to Ramos. I remember what happened to AC Milan when Maldini left, Milan was lucky enough to have Silva at that time, when Milan depended on Maldini and Silva, when this player came out, Milan's defense became a bit bad. This also seems to be the case for Madrid when Ramos left (IMO).
Ramos and Benzema are behind Real Madrid's victory in almost every match at the moment. The other players on the team have contributed, of course, but Real Madrid is much more dependent on Ramos and Benzema. There are no more experienced and skilled players like Ramos. Real Madrid will not find a replacement for Ramos at this time. It would be best for Real Madrid if they put Ramos on the team next season and expel him after finding a replacement.
Currently, Ramos is still adamant that he doesn't want his contract to be extended only for one season but only wants 2 seasons and an additional salary, of course, this is a burden for Real Madrid but for me, it doesn't matter if his performance is still needed in defense at this time, and it's difficult. There is a defender who is able to contribute to other defenders, Ramos is great and is a little stronger in his defense, and even now on a free transfer, big teams are still ready to pay and bring in high salaries, it is certain that Manchester United and Mancity want Ramos to leave from real Madrid and choose one of its clubs.

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June 10, 2021, 02:00:39 PM
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It is a matter of having skilled and experienced players like Ramos in the squad. Maybe Ramos is older, but he's still in great form. There are a lot of experienced players in the Real Madrid team, so maybe even if Ramos is not at Real Madrid, Madrid won't have too many problems. But a skilled defender like Ramos will have to take Real Madrid to their team. If Real Madrid can't find the right replacement for Ramos, Real Madrid will have to pay for it.

For a long season yes. But he is still valuable in training for sure, which is why older players sometimes get promoted to coaching staff and not playing squad. But he himself admitted he understood why he was left out for Spain, so even he knows he's not anywhere near the fitness level required to make a good contribution.

Never dismiss the old boy though. Suarez reminds us:)

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June 10, 2021, 02:49:37 PM
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Ramos and Benzema are behind Real Madrid's victory in almost every match at the moment. The other players on the team have contributed, of course, but Real Madrid is much more dependent on Ramos and Benzema. There are no more experienced and skilled players like Ramos. Real Madrid will not find a replacement for Ramos at this time. It would be best for Real Madrid if they put Ramos on the team next season and expel him after finding a replacement.
Your opinion is valid. Ramos has been scoring significant goals that other strikers unable to do. He is incredibly the best in La Liga. Ramos and Benzema both have great contribution on Real Madrid's victory. Summing up Benzema has been useful for Real Madrid squad all season as well as Ramos. Experience matters and Real Madrid won't let them go away soon.

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Ramos and Benzema are behind Real Madrid's victory in almost every match at the moment. The other players on the team have contributed, of course, but Real Madrid is much more dependent on Ramos and Benzema. There are no more experienced and skilled players like Ramos. Real Madrid will not find a replacement for Ramos at this time. It would be best for Real Madrid if they put Ramos on the team next season and expel him after finding a replacement.
Your opinion is valid. Ramos has been scoring significant goals that other strikers unable to do. He is incredibly the best in La Liga. Ramos and Benzema both have great contribution on Real Madrid's victory. Summing up Benzema has been useful for Real Madrid squad all season as well as Ramos. Experience matters and Real Madrid won't let them go away soon.

You are right. It is very difficult for Real Madrid to find a worthy replacement for Ramos and Benzema at the moment. Harry Kane could be the replacement for Benzema, or Mbappe could be picked by Real Madrid. But is it possible to replace an experienced defender like Ramos?

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June 10, 2021, 03:01:14 PM
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Currently, Ramos is still adamant that he doesn't want his contract to be extended only for one season but only wants 2 seasons and an additional salary, of course, this is a burden for Real Madrid but for me, it doesn't matter if his performance is still needed in defense at this time, and it's difficult. There is a defender who is able to contribute to other defenders, Ramos is great and is a little stronger in his defense, and even now on a free transfer, big teams are still ready to pay and bring in high salaries, it is certain that Manchester United and Mancity want Ramos to leave from real Madrid and choose one of its clubs.
Will Ramos have the same fate as Iker Casillas at Real Madrid when the end of his career as an active player is drawing to a close?
Most people would agree to see Ramos on the list of players the coach will play at Real Madrid for a few more years. He is great as a strong defender, he is the motivator his team mate need at Real Madrid at this time as he ages.

But is it possible to replace an experienced defender like Ramos?
It was very possible because there was a lot of talent that could be bought when they had enough money. There will be a worthy replacement to be in Ramos' position even though the two will never be the same.

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June 10, 2021, 03:40:54 PM
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Today I read the standings of LaLiga 2. It's been 42 games and the top three clubs are Espanyol, Mallorca and leganes. If I'm not mistaken are they going to LaLiga next season? Looking at the last game actually Espanyol is the worst team because they can only win one of the remaining 5 matches.
Leganes and Mallorca are both unbeaten in the last 5 matches. Actually, if I'm not mistaken these three clubs have often gone up to La Liga but they have not been able to survive. What about next season? What is your prediction?

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June 10, 2021, 04:15:15 PM
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It was very possible because there was a lot of talent that could be bought when they had enough money. There will be a worthy replacement to be in Ramos' position even though the two will never be the same.
Sergio Ramos' contract will expire in June 2021 and of course Real Madrid will think again if they want to extend his contract, because now Ramos has entered the age of 35, and the age of 35 is not a potential age for a football player, especially now Ramos is injured too often and it is very detrimental to real madrid. according to news circulating real madrid are currently negotiating with several players who have the same position as ramos, and one of them is Sevilla defender Jules Kunde who is very strong in aerial duels.



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Sergio Ramos' contract will expire in June 2021 and of course Real Madrid will think again if they want to extend his contract, because now Ramos has entered the age of 35, and the age of 35 is not a potential age for a football player, especially now Ramos is injured too often and it is very detrimental to real madrid. according to news circulating real madrid are currently negotiating with several players who have the same position as ramos, and one of them is Sevilla defender Jules Kunde who is very strong in aerial duels.
It will probably be a reality that Ramos and Real Madrid will end up if they find a worthy replacement. So far Ramos has been injured more often because he is probably 35 years old and he will probably admit that he is starting to feel weak now. Not being named in the Spanish team is a sign that Ramos is already in doubt as a strong enough player in defence. Time go so fast, maybe he will feel his career as an active player is coming to an end.

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June 10, 2021, 04:54:55 PM
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Sergio Ramos' contract will expire in June 2021 and of course Real Madrid will think again if they want to extend his contract, because now Ramos has entered the age of 35, and the age of 35 is not a potential age for a football player, especially now Ramos is injured too often and it is very detrimental to real madrid. according to news circulating real madrid are currently negotiating with several players who have the same position as ramos, and one of them is Sevilla defender Jules Kunde who is very strong in aerial duels.
It will probably be a reality that Ramos and Real Madrid will end up if they find a worthy replacement. So far Ramos has been injured more often because he is probably 35 years old and he will probably admit that he is starting to feel weak now. Not being named in the Spanish team is a sign that Ramos is already in doubt as a strong enough player in defence. Time go so fast, maybe he will feel his career as an active player is coming to an end.

Even though Ramos might feel he is not strong enough to contribute to Real Madrid it will completely depend upon the management to sign him again or not. Based on the business prospect for the team, I slightly doubt that the management might extend the contract for Ramos.
Now, as he is getting injured quite often, I feel he will retire or probably his contract won't be extended for a longer period. If I speak about the gameplay, I think he should retire after his contract ends. It will benefit both, the club and himself or his reputation as one of the best defenders but if he can come back, as a supporter I would love to watch him play, actually who won't, being a supporter.
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June 10, 2021, 05:15:56 PM
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So far Ramos has been injured more often because he is probably 35 years old and he will probably admit that he is starting to feel weak now. Not being named in the Spanish team is a sign that Ramos is already in doubt as a strong enough player in defence. Time go so fast, maybe he will feel his career as an active player is coming to an end.
It's high time for him to retire ...

I think he will stay in Real no more than 2 years (double extension of the contract for a year). After that, the best option for him would be to do as Iniesta or another super star who moved to the American or Japanese league did, thus, he will remain with the money, but with the opportunity to prepare without straining for a coaching career. And no matter how it was, I'm still in perplexity from the fact that Ramos did not become a part of the Spanish national team at Euro.

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June 10, 2021, 05:21:53 PM
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So far Ramos has been injured more often because he is probably 35 years old and he will probably admit that he is starting to feel weak now. Not being named in the Spanish team is a sign that Ramos is already in doubt as a strong enough player in defence. Time go so fast, maybe he will feel his career as an active player is coming to an end.
It's high time for him to retire ...

I think he will stay in Real no more than 2 years (double extension of the contract for a year). After that, the best option for him would be to do as Iniesta or another super star who moved to the American or Japanese league did, thus, he will remain with the money, but with the opportunity to prepare without straining for a coaching career. And no matter how it was, I'm still in perplexity from the fact that Ramos did not become a part of the Spanish national team at Euro.

Luis Enrique is a very skilled coach. This we all know. He may not consider Ramos a worthy player for the Spanish team now. Although Ramos is very experienced, but he is older. He can go after injuries very quickly. I think, considering only the injury aspect, Luis Enrique did not put Ramos in the Spain squad.

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June 10, 2021, 05:29:48 PM
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At least Luis Enrique could just call him to the championship by defining him on the bench in the form of a mascot ... especially considering the fact that if my memory serves me in the Spanish national team left one or two vacant places (26 players). In any case, for some reason, it seems to me that the lion's share of the Spaniards during the Euro will be rooting for France or any other country due to the fact that the national team was not included not one R'Madrid player.

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June 10, 2021, 05:57:39 PM
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Sergio Ramos' contract will expire in June 2021 and of course Real Madrid will think again if they want to extend his contract, because now Ramos has entered the age of 35, and the age of 35 is not a potential age for a football player, especially now Ramos is injured too often and it is very detrimental to real madrid. according to news circulating real madrid are currently negotiating with several players who have the same position as ramos, and one of them is Sevilla defender Jules Kunde who is very strong in aerial duels.
It will probably be a reality that Ramos and Real Madrid will end up if they find a worthy replacement. So far Ramos has been injured more often because he is probably 35 years old and he will probably admit that he is starting to feel weak now. Not being named in the Spanish team is a sign that Ramos is already in doubt as a strong enough player in defence. Time go so fast, maybe he will feel his career as an active player is coming to an end.
maybe it's time for Sergio Ramos to look for new adventures in other clubs whose leagues are not very competitive, such as MLS, the Qatar league and the Chinese league which are now the goals of old footballers, and speaking of the Spanish national team squad playing in the euro this year, I see, it's not only Ramos who didn't get a position in the squad managed by Luis Enrique, but not even a one Real Madrid player who was called by Luis Enrique to defend the Spanish National Team this year, and no one knows the reason why? Grin

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June 10, 2021, 06:21:08 PM
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Sergio Ramos' contract will expire in June 2021 and of course Real Madrid will think again if they want to extend his contract, because now Ramos has entered the age of 35, and the age of 35 is not a potential age for a football player, especially now Ramos is injured too often and it is very detrimental to real madrid. according to news circulating real madrid are currently negotiating with several players who have the same position as ramos, and one of them is Sevilla defender Jules Kunde who is very strong in aerial duels.
It will probably be a reality that Ramos and Real Madrid will end up if they find a worthy replacement. So far Ramos has been injured more often because he is probably 35 years old and he will probably admit that he is starting to feel weak now. Not being named in the Spanish team is a sign that Ramos is already in doubt as a strong enough player in defence. Time go so fast, maybe he will feel his career as an active player is coming to an end.
maybe it's time for Sergio Ramos to look for new adventures in other clubs whose leagues are not very competitive, such as MLS, the Qatar league and the Chinese league which are now the goals of old footballers, and speaking of the Spanish national team squad playing in the euro this year, I see, it's not only Ramos who didn't get a position in the squad managed by Luis Enrique, but not even a one Real Madrid player who was called by Luis Enrique to defend the Spanish National Team this year, and no one knows the reason why? Grin

Who do you propose to call the Spanish national team from Real Madrid? Ramos was injured almost the entire season and is not in very good shape at the moment. Carvajal is injured. Even in Real Madrid he was always in the role of a reserve defender and only the injury of Ramos and Varane opened his way to the main squad. Other players are too inexperienced and young for the first team.
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June 10, 2021, 08:28:31 PM
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Today I read the standings of LaLiga 2. It's been 42 games and the top three clubs are Espanyol, Mallorca and leganes. If I'm not mistaken are they going to LaLiga next season? Looking at the last game actually Espanyol is the worst team because they can only win one of the remaining 5 matches.
Leganes and Mallorca are both unbeaten in the last 5 matches. Actually, if I'm not mistaken these three clubs have often gone up to La Liga but they have not been able to survive. What about next season? What is your prediction?
Espanyol team were in laliga in the recent years but leganes and mallorca were up and down and they weren't stable in their results i think next year performance can be measured at the begining of the season after examining each team squad members and their tactic and the coach intelect so i guess we will have to wait and see.
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June 10, 2021, 10:16:48 PM
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playing for one season again with some new substitutes would be even better. Ramos can pass on his experience to new players who will come.
I agree with this. It will be much better if Ramos stays in Real Madrid 1 season more. He is a Real Madrid captain, it is not only about his experience. His existence is very important to ensure all players have the good confidence to win the trophy both in UCL and La Liga in the next season. Without Ramos, Real Madrid must adapt with a new captain and a weaker defense. I think it is too early for Real Madrid to see Ramos leaving although Real Madrid already signed Alaba. Alaba needs time for adaptation. If Real Madrid thinks he has too many Central Defenders, just put Nacho on the transfer list.


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