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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (23.8%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.2%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
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June 11, 2021, 02:54:47 AM
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I agree with this. It will be much better if Ramos stays in Real Madrid 1 season more. He is a Real Madrid captain, it is not only about his experience. His existence is very important to ensure all players have the good confidence to win the trophy both in UCL and La Liga in the next season. Without Ramos, Real Madrid must adapt with a new captain and a weaker defense. I think it is too early for Real Madrid to see Ramos leaving although Real Madrid already signed Alaba. Alaba needs time for adaptation. If Real Madrid thinks he has too many Central Defenders, just put Nacho on the transfer list.
Ramos is very confident with his ability and very ambitious. He is not a home grown player of Real Madrid and he won't sacrifice his salary just to stay in Real Madrid.

With his leadership ability for defensive system, and ability to score goals from corner kicks, ie. he will be welcome in other big clubs. If Florentino Perez does not satisfy the salary demand and a 2 or 3 year contract for Ramos, he will leave.

I fail to see why Ramos will stay in Real Madrid and how Perez will break his rules to keep Ramos in the club. He is the boss and never breaks his rules to negotiate with old players.
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June 11, 2021, 09:11:06 AM
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Today I read the standings of LaLiga 2. It's been 42 games and the top three clubs are Espanyol, Mallorca and leganes. If I'm not mistaken are they going to LaLiga next season? Looking at the last game actually Espanyol is the worst team because they can only win one of the remaining 5 matches.
Leganes and Mallorca are both unbeaten in the last 5 matches. Actually, if I'm not mistaken these three clubs have often gone up to La Liga but they have not been able to survive. What about next season? What is your prediction?

No there is still one more place to be decided between Rayo Vallecano or Girona. They play 1st leg of play off this Sunday, and whoever wins promotes. It will not be Leganes.

Espanyol won promotion early May and then Mallorca also gained promotion when Almeria lost to Cartagena a few weeks later. Both were relegated last season so they came right back in now:) So yeah a swing for both.


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June 11, 2021, 09:24:16 AM
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playing for one season again with some new substitutes would be even better. Ramos can pass on his experience to new players who will come.
I agree with this. It will be much better if Ramos stays in Real Madrid 1 season more. He is a Real Madrid captain, it is not only about his experience. His existence is very important to ensure all players have the good confidence to win the trophy both in UCL and La Liga in the next season. Without Ramos, Real Madrid must adapt with a new captain and a weaker defense. I think it is too early for Real Madrid to see Ramos leaving although Real Madrid already signed Alaba. Alaba needs time for adaptation. If Real Madrid thinks he has too many Central Defenders, just put Nacho on the transfer list.


Well after all Ramos can end his career at Madrid, that way at least Ramos gets more appreciation from the club. Ramos is no longer young and at his age I'm not sure Ramos will be interested in playing in other European clubs, because that age is very vulnerable to injury so yes, Madrid should be able to keep him, no matter if Ramos is played or not because the most important thing is the appreciation for him staying at Madrid until the end of his career is the best.

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June 11, 2021, 02:36:04 PM
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playing for one season again with some new substitutes would be even better. Ramos can pass on his experience to new players who will come.
I agree with this. It will be much better if Ramos stays in Real Madrid 1 season more. He is a Real Madrid captain, it is not only about his experience. His existence is very important to ensure all players have the good confidence to win the trophy both in UCL and La Liga in the next season. Without Ramos, Real Madrid must adapt with a new captain and a weaker defense. I think it is too early for Real Madrid to see Ramos leaving although Real Madrid already signed Alaba. Alaba needs time for adaptation. If Real Madrid thinks he has too many Central Defenders, just put Nacho on the transfer list.


Well after all Ramos can end his career at Madrid, that way at least Ramos gets more appreciation from the club. Ramos is no longer young and at his age I'm not sure Ramos will be interested in playing in other European clubs, because that age is very vulnerable to injury so yes, Madrid should be able to keep him, no matter if Ramos is played or not because the most important thing is the appreciation for him staying at Madrid until the end of his career is the best.
You wrong Ramos still have good performance and Manchester City is the most interested club to get his sign, now Real Madrid look not get deal with salary giving by Madrid management, Pep Guardiola will bring him to Etihad Stadium and giving higher salary for him. will Ramos become important player for City or not because on defender City have many great player like Diaz and Stone.

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June 11, 2021, 03:46:47 PM
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Who do you propose to call the Spanish national team from Real Madrid? Ramos was injured almost the entire season and is not in very good shape at the moment. Carvajal is injured. Even in Real Madrid he was always in the role of a reserve defender and only the injury of Ramos and Varane opened his way to the main squad. Other players are too inexperienced and young for the first team.
If you look at the conditions that are often injured, of course, Sergio Ramos is very reasonable if he doesn't get a call from Luis Enrique in the Spanish national team this year, but what about other Real Madrid players who have played quite impressively this season like Nacho Fernandez?
In my opinion, Nacho Fernandez is by far one of the most vital players for Madrid in maintaining the los blancos defence, and we can see how his good performances this season have brought Real Madrid the runners-up in La Liga, and Luis Enrique shouldn't forget either the role of Marco Asensio, Lucas Vazquez who appears regularly with real madrid this season.

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June 11, 2021, 06:25:57 PM
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It will be much better if Ramos stays in Real Madrid 1 season more. He is a Real Madrid captain, it is not only about his experience. His existence is very important to ensure all players have the good confidence to win the trophy both in UCL and La Liga in the next season. Without Ramos, Real Madrid must adapt with a new captain and a weaker defense. I think it is too early for Real Madrid to see Ramos leaving although Real Madrid already signed Alaba. Alaba needs time for adaptation. If Real Madrid thinks he has too many Central Defenders, just put Nacho on the transfer list.
Well after all Ramos can end his career at Madrid, that way at least Ramos gets more appreciation from the club. Ramos is no longer young and at his age I'm not sure Ramos will be interested in playing in other European clubs, because that age is very vulnerable to injury so yes, Madrid should be able to keep him, no matter if Ramos is played or not because the most important thing is the appreciation for him staying at Madrid until the end of his career is the best.
And not like he would be someone you could just give up that easily neither. Dude played for many years in Real Madrid but even last year he was still scoring goals as a defender, dude is not a bad one at all and I believe he can still provide some talent to the team even at his age, which is why I can see him retire at Real to be honest.

I wouldn't say this if he wasn't good, I would say he could probably be either sold or just sent if he was a bad defender, after a certain age players do drop in talent because their body can't do what their mind wants and that is when players are sent to lower level teams and they try to make it there instead, at least make some more money. We have seen so many players that went to USA, Qatar and China after a certain age because those leagues are the only ones that pay decent amount for players that are old.
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June 11, 2021, 06:48:00 PM
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You wrong Ramos still have good performance and Manchester City is the most interested club to get his sign, now Real Madrid look not get deal with salary giving by Madrid management, Pep Guardiola will bring him to Etihad Stadium and giving higher salary for him. will Ramos become important player for City or not because on defender City have many great player like Diaz and Stone.

Firstly Manchester city had made move for estranged Leonel Messi last season but weren't able to get him to the Ethihad I also think same as they won't be able to successfully pull out a move for Sergio Ramos.

Also I think Manchester city do not have to Sergio Ramos, I think he is declining, and injuries are coming in Rueben Diaz was exciting Last season, so exciting he bagged the player of the season, Stones is becoming the stones we thought he would mature into, Ramos is a commanding player and he may upset the locker room connection in terms of not playing him or maybe even captaincy.
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June 11, 2021, 06:53:19 PM
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I recently read an article that Barcelona's Frenkie de Jong are the most valuable and most expensive player you are right now if a club were to buy him. It is difficult to imagine that Frenkie De Jong would yield more than Messi. Messi's contract expires, but we're not taking that into consideration. De Jong would be worth 90 million and Messi 80. I think we double that amount of Messi. There are plenty of options for Ramos where to go. But not Barcelona, I think.

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Yep. You are right. He will get more appreciation if he decides to end his career in Real Madrid. Real management and fans will always remember him as the next legend after Raúl González. Moving to another club just makes the reputation among the fans be decreasing. People give more appreciation for the player that can be loyal to his club. Even Ramos moves to another top club, there is no guarantee for him to succeed as well as in Real Madrid. So, why not try to stay in Madrid.  Wink


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Yep. You are right. He will get more appreciation if he decides to end his career in Real Madrid. Real management and fans will always remember him as the next legend after Raúl González. Moving to another club just makes the reputation among the fans be decreasing. People give more appreciation for the player that can be loyal to his club. Even Ramos moves to another top club, there is no guarantee for him to succeed as well as in Real Madrid. So, why not try to stay in Madrid.  Wink



Everything you say makes a lot of sense and hopefully Ramos can end his career at Real Madrid and become one of the legends of Real Madrid.
I think Real Madrid is one of the best teams in Europe, and many players dream of playing at Real Madrid. Ramos is already in the right team
by being at Real Madrid, so why look for another club that doesn't necessarily make Ramos comfortable. I see Ramos already has a really strong
bond with Madrid and is loved by Madrid fans. So if Ramos moves to another club, it will be a pity, because what Ramos got at Real Madrid is priceless.

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June 11, 2021, 10:54:27 PM
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There are 19 days left on Messi's contract but he still hasn't made a decision about staying or leaving.  Grin  He still has more than two weeks to think through of course but I think that he shouldn't announce his final decision on the last day of his contract.

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June 11, 2021, 11:03:59 PM
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There are 19 days left on Messi's contract but he still hasn't made a decision about staying or leaving.  Grin
I am sure this means he will stay in Barcelona. Messi will play with Aguero in the next season, he is a countrymate. Messi should be more comfortable playing with his friend in Argentina's national team. Another reason, we always heard a rumor of Messi leaving Barcelona in every transfer window, but it never happens. We can conclude that Messi probably tries to stay in Barcelona as long as possible. Messi may think to spend his professional career as a football player in Barcelona. Then, he can has a chance to be the next coach for the Barcelona team.


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June 11, 2021, 11:23:35 PM
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Yep. You are right. He will get more appreciation if he decides to end his career in Real Madrid. Real management and fans will always remember him as the next legend after Raúl González. Moving to another club just makes the reputation among the fans be decreasing. People give more appreciation for the player that can be loyal to his club. Even Ramos moves to another top club, there is no guarantee for him to succeed as well as in Real Madrid. So, why not try to stay in Madrid.  Wink
Just Ramos feels the strength to continue his career and would like a contract for 2 years, and Real Madrid offers only 1 year. It seems that according to the latest information, he now wants to meet Perez again and is already ready to extend his contract, including because Modric and Vazquez have already extended their contracts, and with Carlo Ancelotti, Ramos has a great relationship. However, Sevilla, where Ramos began his career, seems to have offered a contract for 5 years with a salary of 7 million euros per year, plus the opportunity to stay at the club after the end of his career. Another question is whether Sevilla is up to the current level of Ramos ' ambitions.
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June 12, 2021, 02:11:25 AM
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It looks like Ancelotti will keep Bale this season. With Bale's on the squad, maybe Madrid can win the title again next season. We know, Bale had a very important role for Madrid before back to Tottenham. In other news, Ronaldo is also rumored to want to be brought back by Madrid, if this is true, then the Ronaldo and Bale duo will further strengthen their chances. We'll see if it's true that Juventus let Ronaldo go or not.

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June 12, 2021, 02:30:29 AM
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It looks like Ancelotti will keep Bale this season. With Bale's on the squad, maybe Madrid can win the title again next season. We know, Bale had a very important role for Madrid before back to Tottenham. In other news, Ronaldo is also rumored to want to be brought back by Madrid, if this is true, then the Ronaldo and Bale duo will further strengthen their chances. We'll see if it's true that Juventus let Ronaldo go or not.
Bale can have some moments and score important goals for Real Madrid but he can not play as core players for them. Bale failed with the mission after Ronaldo left Real Madrid. Did you remember it?

One more year, the players like Modric, Ramos, Marcelo, Kroos will be older and their performance will become worse, less stable and Real Madrid will have troubles. In my opinion, Ronaldo does not want to join Real Madrid with their squad like this. He want Champions League and need a competitive club that is not Real Madrid now. PSG or Manchester City can satisfy Ronaldo but with his love for Manchester United, I think if he leaves Juventus, he will join PSG.

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June 12, 2021, 04:14:41 AM
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It looks like Ancelotti will keep Bale this season. With Bale's on the squad, maybe Madrid can win the title again next season. We know, Bale had a very important role for Madrid before back to Tottenham. In other news, Ronaldo is also rumored to want to be brought back by Madrid, if this is true, then the Ronaldo and Bale duo will further strengthen their chances. We'll see if it's true that Juventus let Ronaldo go or not.
Bale have impressive performance on Tottenham Hotspur exactly when Bale get chance at the end league and make few goals for Tottenham Hotspur, after Zidane out and Ancelotti become Real Madrid coach have chance for Bale back to Madrid, but many other player will think to left Madrid like Assensio, maybe he will ask to Ancelotti will get minutes playing again or not?

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June 12, 2021, 09:07:41 AM
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Bale have impressive performance on Tottenham Hotspur exactly when Bale get chance at the end league and make few goals for Tottenham Hotspur, after Zidane out and Ancelotti become Real Madrid coach have chance for Bale back to Madrid, but many other player will think to left Madrid like Assensio, maybe he will ask to Ancelotti will get minutes playing again or not?
It is more than impressive if take into account total matches Bale played from the beginning and total matches he played for Spurs in last season. He only came back very impressive in late of second half of season.

With all the drama with Real Madrid, both President Perez and spectaculars, I don't think Bale will want to contribute his best for Real Madrid. Ancelotti can use Bale more rather than waste his talent and good contributions but it will be the last season in the current contract. A new contract might never come for Bale. Last moments for Bale in Bernabeu before his return to Spurs or his retirement.

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June 12, 2021, 11:20:39 AM
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Bale have impressive performance on Tottenham Hotspur exactly when Bale get chance at the end league and make few goals for Tottenham Hotspur, after Zidane out and Ancelotti become Real Madrid coach have chance for Bale back to Madrid, but many other player will think to left Madrid like Assensio, maybe he will ask to Ancelotti will get minutes playing again or not?
It is more than impressive if take into account total matches Bale played from the beginning and total matches he played for Spurs in last season. He only came back very impressive in late of second half of season.

With all the drama with Real Madrid, both President Perez and spectaculars, I don't think Bale will want to contribute his best for Real Madrid. Ancelotti can use Bale more rather than waste his talent and good contributions but it will be the last season in the current contract. A new contract might never come for Bale. Last moments for Bale in Bernabeu before his return to Spurs or his retirement.

Bale contract at Real Madrid will expire in 2022 and of course Bale will likely be retained by Ancelloti, especially since we know that Bale arrival to Real Madrid in 2013 was at the request of Ancelloti, who was at Madrid at that time and I think  better now to Bale ended his contract with Madrid and returned to play for Tottenham Hotspur, because compared to Real Madrid, Tottenham seem to be able to provide more regular playing opportunities than Real Madrid.
but from some news that says if Bale will decide to retire or not after the Euro 2020 competition ends later.

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June 12, 2021, 11:34:01 AM
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Bale have impressive performance on Tottenham Hotspur exactly when Bale get chance at the end league and make few goals for Tottenham Hotspur, after Zidane out and Ancelotti become Real Madrid coach have chance for Bale back to Madrid, but many other player will think to left Madrid like Assensio, maybe he will ask to Ancelotti will get minutes playing again or not?
To be honest, Bale is a very good player that will definitely make Ancelotti remains him with the Madrid squad as Bale's loan to Tottenham Hotspur had expired, he wouldn't want Bale to leave the club because he knew the impact of Bale on the pitch. Obviously, everyone can play better under Ancelotti management including Assensio, so I don't Assensio will find it hard to play according to his instructions. The next season will be so interesting but I'm expecting a different results in Laliga.
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June 12, 2021, 11:58:07 AM
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~snip~
 the coach is the main factor because the coach who makes the strategy and which and what kind of players are suitable to carry out the strategy.
This is still a question mark. Whether anceloti will still believe in Ramos or not. If not then it looks like he has to leave then Madrid will have to buy new players. In my mind if for 1 season Ramos is still good, but if it is more than that then it will cost Madrid. So this summer Madrid will have to buy a new player to replace Ramos. This was done so that Madrid would not be surprised when Ramos left. They will get used to it and not depend on one person.
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