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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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Other - 8 (6.6%)
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June 13, 2021, 08:21:07 PM
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Will Barcelona lose another free player after the Wijnaldum, will the deal with Depay fail as well?
Both players made a promise to Barcelona and were supposed to come as free players and it seems that Barcelona could be left without both players.
What’s been going on with Barcelona lately?
They are in a big financial crisis, there have been no results and real trophies for a long time and now the players have started to avoid them and choose other clubs.

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2021/06/13/60c5ccff46163f2c9f8b4661.html
He has all the rights to try to find a better team financially but especially in term of stability. Until now, it is only a delay in signing the contract but afaik there isn't a team competing Barca to attract him which is a good sign.
Barca is struggling financially, the future of Koeman isn't clear, same goes for Messi. I don't blame Wijnaldum for signing PSG and won't blame any player avoiding Barca for the moment..

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June 13, 2021, 08:27:45 PM
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I think Real Madrid better sell Hazard during have good price than waiting he back good performance, more than three season on Barnabeu Hazard never give good performance like on Chelsea before. Better looking great partner for Benzema and Mbappe is the best option but have higher value, so barter Hazard and mbappe is the best way if PSG want deal it.

I had the same thought, while still playing in Chelsea, Eden Hazard looked shiny and he plays a key role there. But when he moved to Real Madrid, his performances didn't look good (just occasionally he looks great but can't be consistent in every game). So there is nothing wrong with Real Madrid selling Hazard because the funds can be used to buy other players.

Besides Mbappe, Harry Kane is also a good option for Real Madrid, it's just that Kane's transfer value is also high. Or it could be Jadon Sancho because it seems Dortmund already rejected Man United's offer of £67m for Sancho.
Selling Hazard is not worth it now. They won't give good money for it. I think I should give him one more year. In the past he was not allowed to play at full strength of injury. I hope they will bypass it next year. Real Madrid is likely to target the purchase of Mbappe. And the attacker will take Lewandowski. For a couple of years he will play at the proper level, and after that it will be possible to buy Holland.
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June 13, 2021, 08:49:56 PM
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You may be right. Bringing Aguero to the team was a really smart move that can affect Messi's decision. But I'm still having my doubts about the current situation. Everyone is waiting anxiously for him to decide what he will do. It would be really shocking for Barcelona fans for sure to hear that he decides to leave.
It is a strategy from Laporta and Barcelona to keep Messi in the club but they should do it with Suarez in the last year. I think Suarez has better stamina and performance than Aguero. He also has better connection with Messi.

I also would like to see Suarez coming back to Barcelona. It would be great for Messi and the team both for sure. But there is no reason for him to come back. He wasn't wanted at the team and he achieved much better things at Atletico in the last season.

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June 13, 2021, 08:57:18 PM
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You may be right. Bringing Aguero to the team was a really smart move that can affect Messi's decision. But I'm still having my doubts about the current situation. Everyone is waiting anxiously for him to decide what he will do. It would be really shocking for Barcelona fans for sure to hear that he decides to leave.
It is a strategy from Laporta and Barcelona to keep Messi in the club but they should do it with Suarez in the last year. I think Suarez has better stamina and performance than Aguero. He also has better connection with Messi.

I also would like to see Suarez coming back to Barcelona. It would be great for Messi and the team both for sure. But there is no reason for him to come back. He wasn't wanted at the team and he achieved much better things at Atletico in the last season.

We haven't seen how Aguero is with Messi so we can't say which one is better before seeing it, for me personally Aguero and Suarez have the same characteristics
Speed, stamina and a strong goal instinct this will be interesting to wait for next season. meanwhile I haven't got any news about new Madrid players.

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June 13, 2021, 09:59:21 PM
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In Real Madrid, the issue with the strikers has not been resolved, I would say that there is no strong striker who would sit firmly at the base, maybe except Benzema. Since Ronaldo left the team, there is no equal replacement for him.
He can still play at Madrid for 2 more years. If he does return to Madrid, I hope that Anceloti gives him the opportunity to play a lot. The return of Anceloti could be a new hope for Bale, Anceloti has a different mind with Zidane. But will he return to Real Madrid next season? I haven't got any official news about this.

Apart from that this season Madrid have had to spend a lot of good players, they need a striker to cover Benzema, a defender to cover Ramos. Hopefully madrid have a lot of money, because they are not active in the winter transfer window,
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June 13, 2021, 11:11:13 PM
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Seeing Griezmann with France in a role behind a striker who knows his roles well is goingto bring his potential,Unfortunately for Barcelona we see this ghost
 version of the player.
In Atletico he has always been the team champion with his moves, passes and decisiveness in front of the goal.
The difference between the two experiences is the presence of the striker. And his absence.
This maybe is going to be changed next year as he will be just behind Aguero but it's that his roles overlap with Messi then.

Damn, Griezmann was such a brilliant striker. When he transferred to Barcelona it was over. He should have stayed with Atletico. Funny thing is Suarez goes to Atletico and strikes them to the championship. While Griezmann is getting worse and worse.

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June 13, 2021, 11:23:01 PM
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Real Madrid will not be able to replace Ramos if he leaves Real. Moreover, the new coach actually takes some time to adapt to the players of the team.

I hope he, like Tuchel, can win the UCL in his first season. But I agree with what you said. Madrid will only be a lion without fangs if they do not have new players who provide solutions to problems this season. But what I'm surprised at is that I haven't heard of a transfer from Madrid. Are they really struggling with money and won't be spending this season? If this is true ah damn, I think they will fail again in UCL and league

There hasn't been an announcement for a single big transfer so far. It has nothing to do with Real Madrid having no money. They are all waiting and checking what the realty looks like on the transfer market this year. I am sure they will announce one big one very soon, but I don't count Real Madrid as a favorite for the Champions League title next year. Of course they are always able to win it, but I'd see rather other clubs in the pole position. Certainly Bayern Munich will be one of the fiercest competitors again even with the team they now have.

I guess their main targets could be Kane and Mbappe right now. They really want to strengthen their attacking line and it would be great to see one of these players at Real Madrid. It looks like Mbappe transfer will be a very tough one for them as PSG don't want to let him go at all. So, they could give up on him and make an effort to sign Kane.

Well, then Haaland is actually the best option. Paris has their sheiks, they don't need to let him go for 150 million, but Dortmund would probably let Haaland go for 150 million. Jesus Christ, typing that number made me realize how crazy the world is by now. 150 million for a soccer player Cheesy

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In Real Madrid, the issue with the strikers has not been resolved, I would say that there is no strong striker who would sit firmly at the base, maybe except Benzema. Since Ronaldo left the team, there is no equal replacement for him.
He can still play at Madrid for 2 more years. If he does return to Madrid, I hope that Anceloti gives him the opportunity to play a lot. The return of Anceloti could be a new hope for Bale, Anceloti has a different mind with Zidane. But will he return to Real Madrid next season? I haven't got any official news about this.
Apart from that this season Madrid have had to spend a lot of good players, they need a striker to cover Benzema, a defender to cover Ramos. Hopefully madrid have a lot of money, because they are not active in the winter transfer window,
I don't think that Real Madrid will want and will conduct a large-scale transfer campaign in the near future. Ancelotti seems to have wishes for several players, but they are not so big in financial terms. Therefore, if high-profile acquisitions are possible in the near future, it is only for a couple of positions. Ramos is scheduled to meet with Perez to discuss his contract. Sergio is willing to take a pay cut, but would like a two-year contract or a one-year contract with an option to extend for another season. There are also still Eden Hazard and Gareth Bale in the squad, which, with no injuries and good psychological contact with Ancelotti, can bring even more strength to the game.
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June 13, 2021, 11:40:15 PM
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Seeing Griezmann with France in a role behind a striker who knows his roles well is goingto bring his potential,Unfortunately for Barcelona we see this ghost
 version of the player.
In Atletico he has always been the team champion with his moves, passes and decisiveness in front of the goal.
The difference between the two experiences is the presence of the striker. And his absence.
This maybe is going to be changed next year as he will be just behind Aguero but it's that his roles overlap with Messi then.
Damn, Griezmann was such a brilliant striker. When he transferred to Barcelona it was over. He should have stayed with Atletico. Funny thing is Suarez goes to Atletico and strikes them to the championship. While Griezmann is getting worse and worse.

Griezmann is a brilliant player, but his decision to leave Atletico in my opinion is a bad one. Because with Barcelona Griezmann couldn't find
his best performance. Especially if Messi extends the contract and Barcelona manages to bring in Depay, it looks like Griezmann's position
will be threatened. My suggestion is that Griezmann chooses another club to play for, according to rumors if Ronaldo leaves Juventus,
Griezmann is one of Juventus targets to replace Ronaldo. I hope Griezmann can move to Juventus or another club, so that his career
can develop even better.

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June 14, 2021, 03:01:06 AM
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Griezmann is a brilliant player, but his decision to leave Atletico in my opinion is a bad one. Because with Barcelona Griezmann couldn't find
his best performance. Especially if Messi extends the contract and Barcelona manages to bring in Depay, it looks like Griezmann's position
will be threatened. My suggestion is that Griezmann chooses another club to play for, according to rumors if Ronaldo leaves Juventus,
Griezmann is one of Juventus targets to replace Ronaldo. I hope Griezmann can move to Juventus or another club, so that his career
can develop even better.
Griezman can be a legend in Atletico Madrid if he want to contribute more and end his career there. After some successes in Atletico Madrid as well as some defeats in final matches, and after the World Cup 2018 title, Griezman want to move to a higher level.

I guess he want to win Champions League and personal titles. Maybe he felt Barcelona with Messi can help him move higher and feel tired with not too big chance to win Champions League with Atletico. In football, we never know anything, some legendary players never win Champions League. Examples Ronaldo (Brazil), Totti, Baggio, Ballack and some never win World Cup or Euro. But when a player gets a big title, they will want to get another. It is what Griezman thought maybe.

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June 14, 2021, 05:46:16 AM
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I think Real Madrid better sell Hazard during have good price than waiting he back good performance, more than three season on Barnabeu Hazard never give good performance like on Chelsea before. Better looking great partner for Benzema and Mbappe is the best option but have higher value, so barter Hazard and mbappe is the best way if PSG want deal it.
Hazard is not that bad of a player, I mean dude is not as good as expected but he is not that bad neither. Right now we are seeing him basically just be helpful and sometimes that's more than enough. He was bought as a superstar and when he didn't provide that people wanted to see him gone, but the reality is that there are plenty of players that can find a place in Madrid without being a superstar, just be decent and you will be fine, Hazard is that type of player. However they seriously need a superstar, specially at striker because Benzema is not getting any younger.

If I were them I would get rid of Benzema right now when he can still provide a tad bit and get a super young talent, like Haaland is talked for Chelsea and I believe Real could try to chase him down as well, 150 million is a ton of cash but if they could manage to get it, they would be unstoppable for a few more years easily.

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June 14, 2021, 12:05:35 PM
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Griezmann is a brilliant player, but his decision to leave Atletico in my opinion is a bad one. Because with Barcelona Griezmann couldn't find
his best performance. Especially if Messi extends the contract and Barcelona manages to bring in Depay, it looks like Griezmann's position
will be threatened. My suggestion is that Griezmann chooses another club to play for, according to rumors if Ronaldo leaves Juventus,
Griezmann is one of Juventus targets to replace Ronaldo. I hope Griezmann can move to Juventus or another club, so that his career
can develop even better.
Griezman can be a legend in Atletico Madrid if he want to contribute more and end his career there. After some successes in Atletico Madrid as well as some defeats in final matches, and after the World Cup 2018 title, Griezman want to move to a higher level.

I guess he want to win Champions League and personal titles. Maybe he felt Barcelona with Messi can help him move higher and feel tired with not too big chance to win Champions League with Atletico. In football, we never know anything, some legendary players never win Champions League. Examples Ronaldo (Brazil), Totti, Baggio, Ballack and some never win World Cup or Euro. But when a player gets a big title, they will want to get another. It is what Griezman thought maybe.

I understand the reason Griezmann left Atletico, he thinks Barcelona and Messi can give him a lot of titles. It turns out that the reality is
not as expected, Griezmann is having a difficult time at Barcelona, his performance is getting worse. Therefore, if Griezmann is still at Atletico,
it is very possible to become a legend and be able to win trophies with Atletico. Sometimes moving to a big club is not the best option for some players.

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June 14, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
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meanwhile I haven't got any news about new Madrid players.

It's true whether they really are in trouble with money to buy players? Many rumors from other clubs have made some of their players official for next season. But Madrid I haven't heard anything at the moment, or do they want to take it from their academy? I hope that doesn't happen, and they keep buying players for next season. Because La Liga and UCL champions are the fans' targets for next season.

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June 14, 2021, 12:45:06 PM
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If I were them I would get rid of Benzema right now when he can still provide a tad bit and get a super young talent, like Haaland is talked for Chelsea and I believe Real could try to chase him down as well, 150 million is a ton of cash but if they could manage to get it, they would be unstoppable for a few more years easily.

Erling Haaland and Kylian Mbappe are indeed good options for Real Madrid, but to be able to get one of the two is not an easy matter. Both players have a very high transfer price and both are being targeted by many big clubs. Besides that, as the new coach replacing Zidane, Carlo Ancelotti must have had his own list. If these two players are included in Ancelotti's list, it is likely that Real Madrid will insist on pursuing them. But if it's not on Ancelotti's list, then I think Ancelotti already has other good options.

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June 14, 2021, 12:55:07 PM
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meanwhile I haven't got any news about new Madrid players.

It's true whether they really are in trouble with money to buy players? Many rumors from other clubs have made some of their players official for next season. But Madrid I haven't heard anything at the moment, or do they want to take it from their academy? I hope that doesn't happen, and they keep buying players for next season. Because La Liga and UCL champions are the fans' targets for next season.

Ancelloti definitely has good plans for Real Madrid although we haven't seen any news about the Madrid transfer market at the moment but the options are definitely there it's just that they haven't been agreed yet and if they don't buy players I don't think Real Madrid deserves to save money just because they don't buy the player.
Next season will be hotter if Madrid still doesn't get talented players at least the trophy must be taken over again next season with LaLiga and CL to fight for.
Barcelona has started to look at several players and now only Real Madrid is still waiting for confirmation.

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If I were them I would get rid of Benzema right now when he can still provide a tad bit and get a super young talent, like Haaland is talked for Chelsea and I believe Real could try to chase him down as well, 150 million is a ton of cash but if they could manage to get it, they would be unstoppable for a few more years easily.
Erling Haaland and Kylian Mbappe are indeed good options for Real Madrid, but to be able to get one of the two is not an easy matter. Both players have a very high transfer price and both are being targeted by many big clubs. Besides that, as the new coach replacing Zidane, Carlo Ancelotti must have had his own list. If these two players are included in Ancelotti's list, it is likely that Real Madrid will insist on pursuing them. But if it's not on Ancelotti's list, then I think Ancelotti already has other good options.
In any case, Real Madrid will continue to hunt for these players and try to buy them, even though Erling Haaland and Kylian Mbappe are on Ancelotti's list, even though they are not on this list, because this is already a matter of the club's prestige and a powerful object for subsequent marketing and future income. And I don't think Ancelotti will give up working with Haaland and Mbappe for the players on his list. Another question is that the simultaneous purchase of these forwards can hardly be discussed, even for a club like Real Madrid, especially in the current financial realities.
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meanwhile I haven't got any news about new Madrid players.

It's true whether they really are in trouble with money to buy players? Many rumors from other clubs have made some of their players official for next season. But Madrid I haven't heard anything at the moment, or do they want to take it from their academy? I hope that doesn't happen, and they keep buying players for next season. Because La Liga and UCL champions are the fans' targets for next season.

Yes I heard Madrid had a financial crisis even though it was early last year but we don't know the current condition local news also says they have to sell some players if they want to buy new players. I speculate that at the moment Madrid are watching the players who are competing in the Euros and the Copa America looking for players who deserve to be bought, this is an option if they fail to bring in mbappe.

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meanwhile I haven't got any news about new Madrid players.

It's true whether they really are in trouble with money to buy players? Many rumors from other clubs have made some of their players official for next season. But Madrid I haven't heard anything at the moment, or do they want to take it from their academy? I hope that doesn't happen, and they keep buying players for next season. Because La Liga and UCL champions are the fans' targets for next season.

Yes I heard Madrid had a financial crisis even though it was early last year but we don't know the current condition local news also says they have to sell some players if they want to buy new players. I speculate that at the moment Madrid are watching the players who are competing in the Euros and the Copa America looking for players who deserve to be bought, this is an option if they fail to bring in mbappe.

No matter how much the Madrid club is in financial trouble, if they get a chance to pick the player of their choice, they will bring him in anyway. If they need, they will bring the player of their choice in the team with a loan. Real Madrid have not won a single title this season. They will want to win at least one title next season.

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June 14, 2021, 08:54:48 PM
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In Real Madrid, the issue with the strikers has not been resolved, I would say that there is no strong striker who would sit firmly at the base, maybe except Benzema. Since Ronaldo left the team, there is no equal replacement for him.
He can still play at Madrid for 2 more years. If he does return to Madrid, I hope that Anceloti gives him the opportunity to play a lot. The return of Anceloti could be a new hope for Bale, Anceloti has a different mind with Zidane. But will he return to Real Madrid next season? I haven't got any official news about this.

Apart from that this season Madrid have had to spend a lot of good players, they need a striker to cover Benzema, a defender to cover Ramos. Hopefully madrid have a lot of money, because they are not active in the winter transfer window,
It is unlikely that Real Madrid has a lot of money at the moment. You shouldn't expect big purchases. Although they can buy Mbappe. The reconstruction of the stadium is coming to an end. Real Madrid will spend another season with old players, and in a year they will make a couple of good purchases and build a new team.
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June 15, 2021, 03:48:21 PM
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It is unlikely that Real Madrid has a lot of money at the moment. You shouldn't expect big purchases. Although they can buy Mbappe. The reconstruction of the stadium is coming to an end. Real Madrid will spend another season with old players, and in a year they will make a couple of good purchases and build a new team.
The stadium construction always takes time and requires huge fund from club. Real Madrid has better balance sheet than Arsenal and they still bought players, even made some big transfer with Haaland, is.

But this appearance of pandemic attacks their budget and it is not a strange thing in football. Many clubs are suffering this issue.

I don't think Real Madrid will spend big fund for Mbappe transfer. They can make the the transfer but pay the transfer fee gradually each season. The same as what PSG did with transfer of Mbappe from Monaco to their club.

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