La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Iranus]

This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

It is a good transfer strategy for the future, because the key players of Barcelona is old. Messi, Busquet and Pique won't have many seasons left in their career. Hence, Barcelona have to prepare their lives without Messi, Busquet, Pique.

Pique and Ramos have touched downside in their career. Ramos already left Real Madrid so how about Pique?

You're right, Koeman is arranging the Barcelona team with the future in mind. It takes a long time for young players to become experienced. Young players will become more skilled and experienced if they get a chance to play with experienced players like Messi, Aguero and Pique. With their help, the future Barcelona team will become stronger.

[mv1986]

This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

It is a good transfer strategy for the future, because the key players of Barcelona is old. Messi, Busquet and Pique won't have many seasons left in their career. Hence, Barcelona have to prepare their lives without Messi, Busquet, Pique.

Pique and Ramos have touched downside in their career. Ramos already left Real Madrid so how about Pique?

You're right, Koeman is arranging the Barcelona team with the future in mind. It takes a long time for young players to become experienced. Young players will become more skilled and experienced if they get a chance to play with experienced players like Messi, Aguero and Pique. With their help, the future Barcelona team will become stronger.

I don't know how you guys here feel about it but for me Koeman isn't the perfect coach for Barcelona. Every time I see him it feels like he is in the wrong place. He lacks that aura or anything, I am not sure what it is that I dislike about him. His decisions as a head coach so far were quite miserable as well.

I don't think Barcelona will be dominant next year. Those times are pretty much over. Who knows what's going to come next for Barcelona once Messi leaves the club. That's when the biggest era in soccer history will come to an end.

[hahay]

This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

It is a good transfer strategy for the future, because the key players of Barcelona is old. Messi, Busquet and Pique won't have many seasons left in their career. Hence, Barcelona have to prepare their lives without Messi, Busquet, Pique.

Pique and Ramos have touched downside in their career. Ramos already left Real Madrid so how about Pique?

You're right, Koeman is arranging the Barcelona team with the future in mind. It takes a long time for young players to become experienced. Young players will become more skilled and experienced if they get a chance to play with experienced players like Messi, Aguero and Pique. With their help, the future Barcelona team will become stronger.

I don't know how you guys here feel about it but for me Koeman isn't the perfect coach for Barcelona. Every time I see him it feels like he is in the wrong place. He lacks that aura or anything, I am not sure what it is that I dislike about him. His decisions as a head coach so far were quite miserable as well.

I don't think Barcelona will be dominant next year. Those times are pretty much over. Who knows what's going to come next for Barcelona once Messi leaves the club. That's when the biggest era in soccer history will come to an end.

If you look at other big teams trying to build teams with young players, in fact it's not the right way for big teams because in the end these big teams will need more experienced players who already have a selling point. But if Barcelona can accept the risk it may not matter, because as far as I am aware the risk will only make the team even more destroyed because of heavy pressure from many parties. Because usually, young players who are successful must have passed many obstacles such as being loaned to other teams basically to get more playing minutes.

[jaberwock]

In addition, the young defender will be a long-term investment for barca. Although in the current list of players there are only 2 names that I consider quite old, Pique and Alba. They must immediately find a replacement, this is useful for the regeneration of the old barca players. Just like Lionel Messi who will get old so management must find a new star soon.

This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

Are you sure? I mean they just went for aguero and wijnaldum, they failed to get wijnaldum but got aguero who is 33 years old. They got Depay and he is not old at all but I wouldn't call 27 years old "young" in football, usually players that are 22-23 and under considered young in football, when you are 27 that is like half of your career is already over. They got Royal and he is a young kid, yet he is not really a star level player neither, don't know if he would be even starting eleven. So they got only 2 players one at the half of his career and one is at the near end, I would say they are not going for young players at all.

With the hopes that they would be able to get a good price on some deals, they are going to look for some players after euro 2021 like most other people, I feel like that is going to be the case for many teams so that they could see players and decide afterwards.

[Rengga Jati]

I got a rumor that Ramos is going to Club AS Roma I don't know if this is valid or not.

It is still a rumor because as far as I know there is no official statement about it. Instead, I heard another rumor that Ramos decides to go to PSG in the next season. I assume PSG is a better place for Ramos since he should get a bigger salary there and can play regularly. PSG can have 2 strong center backs if Sergio Ramos joins. With Ramos and Marquinhos, I believe PSG will have a better defense.

[Luzin]

PSG can have 2 strong center backs if Sergio Ramos joins. With Ramos and Marquinhos, I believe PSG will have a better defense.

But remember Ramos is getting old. I think he's useless in the long run. Maybe in 1 or 2 years he will retire from football. Although I think paying him too much it would be a waste. He does have experience, is well trained and has a big name. So wherever he's going he probably won't be as long as his time at Madrid. Investing in younger players I think is better even though he doesn't have much experience.

[kawetsriyanto]

In addition, the young defender will be a long-term investment for barca.

Yep, young defenders can have a cheaper price and potentially improves their value in the future. Also, if then they decide to sell again the young defenders, their value is relatively steadily increasing. In this matter, Barcelona can take advantage both for the long term and short term. It is very different if they sign a top defender with age 25 years old above, the price should be more expensive. Also, their value can decrease very extremely if they cannot show their best performance in Barcelona.

[slaman29]

This transfer season, Barcelona is mainly focusing on young players. They are making young strikers and midfielders. Even if Messi, Griezmann, Aguero leaves Barcelona, Barcelona will not face big problems. However, Barcelona's defense was very weak this season. They should have an experienced defender. Experienced defenders should be included in the team without focusing on young defenders.

Are you sure? I mean they just went for aguero and wijnaldum, they failed to get wijnaldum but got aguero who is 33 years old. They got Depay and he is not old at all but I wouldn't call 27 years old "young" in football, usually players that are 22-23 and under considered young in football, when you are 27 that is like half of your career is already over. They got Royal and he is a young kid, yet he is not really a star level player neither, don't know if he would be even starting eleven. So they got only 2 players one at the half of his career and one is at the near end, I would say they are not going for young players at all.

With the hopes that they would be able to get a good price on some deals, they are going to look for some players after euro 2021 like most other people, I feel like that is going to be the case for many teams so that they could see players and decide afterwards.

Exactly haha. I wish I could say my team was looking to revive their fortunes by putting down some good money in investing youth, I mean yeah we have Braithwaite but he hardly gets a run out and then Dembele (not so young) keeps injuring himself, now out after EURO and to miss our preseason.

Aguero yeah, but Depay is almost at peak, also agree, not to say it's young, but to build a solid center for the next 5 years. Hope Koeman knows what he's doing seriously.

[hd49728]

You're right, Koeman is arranging the Barcelona team with the future in mind. It takes a long time for young players to become experienced. Young players will become more skilled and experienced if they get a chance to play with experienced players like Messi, Aguero and Pique. With their help, the future Barcelona team will become stronger.

Koeman did right things to bring lights back for Barcelona and helped them to win Coppa del Rey. Nevertheless, fans did not satisfy after they have Coppa del Rey, they wanted to win La Liga and blamed the failure in very last rounds to Koeman. It is not Koeman's responsibility only and the fans should feel happy with what the club got in the last season.

Ansu Fati, Puig, etc. will help Barcelona have a good future after Pique, Busquet, Messi retires or leaves the club. They need to focus to improve their defense system more in order to fight with strongest clubs in the Europe. Koeman knows it but he needs time and transfer budget.

[MAAManda]

Koeman knows it but he needs time and transfer budget.

Everything does take a long time to get better, just like Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool. He (Jurgen Klopp) did not immediately become a title winner at that time, he needed time to adapt.

I'm sure Barcelona in the hands of Ronald Koeman will be even better.

[Iranus]

Koeman knows it but he needs time and transfer budget.

Everything does take a long time to get better, just like Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool. He (Jurgen Klopp) did not immediately become a title winner at that time, he needed time to adapt.

I'm sure Barcelona in the hands of Ronald Koeman will be even better.

This season Barcelona was a team that was completely devastated. They had no continuity in the performance. They have won against the strongest team, they have lost points against the weaker opponents in the next match. Hopefully next season Barcelona will be more stronger and stable.

[kawetsriyanto]

Everything does take a long time to get better, just like Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool.

Yes, it needs a process. Regarding taking a long time or short time, it depends on many factors. Once Koeman came to Barcelona, the squad isn't as strong as in Pep Guardiola era. So, ideally, we cannot expect too much to Koeman winning UCL or La Liga immediately. Some top players in Barcelona like Messi, Pique, and Alba aren't in their top-level performance anymore. While some new players need time to adapt, the same as what Koeman was experiencing. So, it is not so surprising if in the first season Koeman cannot win the title of La Liga or UCL. Yep, it is the same as what Jurgen Klop ever experienced in Liverpool.

[sana54210]

I wish I could say my team was looking to revive their fortunes by putting down some good money in investing youth, I mean yeah we have Braithwaite but he hardly gets a run out and then Dembele (not so young) keeps injuring himself, now out after EURO and to miss our preseason.

Aguero yeah, but Depay is almost at peak, also agree, not to say it's young, but to build a solid center for the next 5 years. Hope Koeman knows what he's doing seriously.

It is really not a bad team neither, it is not young but it is not "old" to say neither, and they have very good players. Let me say that they need a lot more "very high end" players, players that worth 150+ million, or at least players that worth 100+ million, many teams at the very top usually have one or even two players at that level, or they have a better system for the ones they have and not the ones they get.

Barcelona has De Jong who is 24 years old as their most valuable player, very young. Aside from Messi they have Pedri at 18, Fati at 18, Dembele at 24, Dest at 20, Lenglet at 26, now Depay at 27. These are all great players as well, but when you look at the starting eleven it is not always them that get the minutes neither, they get as much as they can but not the backbone of the starting eleven. Which is why I feel like they could get better with a decent manager.

[CLS63]

Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.

[Rengga Jati]

I think he's useless in the long run. Maybe in 1 or 2 years he will retire from football. Although I think paying him too much it would be a waste. He does have experience, is well trained and has a big name.

Sergio Ramos is still playing at the top level, he can play 2-3 years more. Does it useless? How can? You admit he has experiences and a big name, isn't it something beneficial for the team? He can share his experience with others while helping the team to have a strong defence. Also, the big name will contribute to add the income from the merchandise. It is strange if you claim spending money for him will be useless.

Investing in younger players I think is better even though he doesn't have much experience.

If the next season PSG wants to compete for the UCL title, PSG needs experienced and strong defenders. Buying younger defenders without much experience won't add anything to the team. Not every new player must be for a long run, sometimes we need to sign a proper player for a certain purpose although he isn't young anymore.

[AndySt]

PSG can have 2 strong center backs if Sergio Ramos joins. With Ramos and Marquinhos, I believe PSG will have a better defense.

But remember Ramos is getting old. I think he's useless in the long run. Maybe in 1 or 2 years he will retire from football. Although I think paying him too much it would be a waste. He does have experience, is well trained and has a big name. So wherever he's going he probably won't be as long as his time at Madrid. Investing in younger players I think is better even though he doesn't have much experience.

The most important thing is that Ramos gives results in the coming years and Paris Saint-Germain will have this in mind if they sign a contract with Ramos, especially since the club does not need to pay for a transfer and the player comes to the club as a free agent. Investing in young players is a good thing, but it takes time and implies some risk of not getting results later, so big clubs are engaged in buying players who have already formed at a high level, even if it is expensive. At least, Ramos seems to have told some of his former teammates that he is moving to PSG.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.

Lyon help Depay to keep his career alive. Depay left Manchester United and Lyon gave him their belief as well as a position in a team and Depay does not make Lyon disappointed.

I am surprised to see Lyon let Depay go with a free transfer. It sounds very weird because they can sell Depay one or 2 seasons ago with good cost. Depay has a very important position in Netherlands and Koeman built the squad around Depay. He scored many great goals for Netherlands and brought them to this Euro.

Griezman should go. 2 seasons are enough for him to find a good position in Barcelona but he can't.

[muratsink]

Now Barcelona have Memphis Depay on a free transfer and he will arrive on July 1. He had a really decent season at Lyon in the last season. His main position is centre-forward. But he can also play on the left wing and as an attacking midfielder. He scored 12 goals and made 12 assists in the games he played as CF (28 games). He scored 6 goals in 9 games as left-winger. And he scored 4 goals in 3 games as attacking midfielder. So, this means that he is very productive on all of these positions. If Koeman still wants to play with the same formation, then I guess he won't change Griezmann - Messi duo. Then, I guess that Depay would play as left winger or attacking midfielder mostly. When Griezmann is out of form, I've no doubt that he will get a chance as CF also.

Lyon help Depay to keep his career alive. Depay left Manchester United and Lyon gave him their belief as well as a position in a team and Depay does not make Lyon disappointed.

I am surprised to see Lyon let Depay go with a free transfer. It sounds very weird because they can sell Depay one or 2 seasons ago with good cost. Depay has a very important position in Netherlands and Koeman built the squad around Depay. He scored many great goals for Netherlands and brought them to this Euro.

Griezman should go. 2 seasons are enough for him to find a good position in Barcelona but he can't.

Lyon give second chance for Depay wake up again after not get good performance in Manchester Unite, but Lyon failed to get much money from  Barcelona after Depay left Lyon with free transfer, last year they have great chance to sell Depay with good price after interesting by Barcelona but Lyon want to get more money until Barcelona waiting for Depay's contract end on Lyon and get by free.

[MAAManda]

Koeman knows it but he needs time and transfer budget.

Everything does take a long time to get better, just like Jurgen Klopp with Liverpool. He (Jurgen Klopp) did not immediately become a title winner at that time, he needed time to adapt.

I'm sure Barcelona in the hands of Ronald Koeman will be even better.

This season Barcelona was a team that was completely devastated. They had no continuity in the performance. They have won against the strongest team, they have lost points against the weaker opponents in the next match. Hopefully next season Barcelona will be more stronger and stable.

I think it's good enough for Barcelona to be in 3rd place this season, considering that they always fail to keep their points.

As it is common to fail against weak teams, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid also do the same.

It's just that Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid are luckier

[Luzin]

Also, the big name will contribute to add the income from the merchandise. It is strange if you claim spending money for him will be useless.

I'm not so sure about the increase in sales of club shirts. Likewise with the problem of age he is 35 years old he will slow down. Last time with Madrid, at the end of the season I heard he was injured twice. If there he is not fit it will be useless, if PSG get a cheap price according to his age and performance then it might be better for PSG.