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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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January 14, 2022, 09:36:15 PM
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~Barcelona and Atletico Madrid missing far points from Real Madrid each other left than 16 points, although have 18 match I think not easy for Barcelona and Atletico Madrid getting close points with Real Madrid or Sevilla, just take way how to get four top position only as possibility for both team.
We can conclude that only Real Madrid and Sevilla compete for the title. Atletico Madrid and Barcelona are clearly out of the title race this season since their point gaps are too far from Real Madrid or Sevilla points. You are right, the realistic target for both Atletico Madrid and Barcelona is to be back on the top four (UCL zone). At least, they can get UCL tickets for the next season.

It still really depends on how Sevilla and Real Madrid end the match on matchday 21-34. I agree that Real Madrid will probably continue to consistently win every match, but I don't believe in Sevilla.
Considering the current performance of Real Madrid, I agree that Real Madrid will have a chance to secure 3 points in each match. They must be aware that losing to get 3 points will risk their position on the top, so they must try their best efforts in each match. They have an experienced coach (Ancellotti) and they also have many experienced players on the squad, there are no reasons to doubt Real Madrid.

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January 14, 2022, 09:59:19 PM
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Just because a team plays only a certain nationality (or even area) players doesn't mean that they are playing "the real football" type of situation, it just doesn't mean that at all. It is classic that we are talking about something that is just a limited version of football and that is not really meaning anything in this day and age.

To be fair, I could even say that it is a bit racist to deny playing other nationality players as well, you can have a great youth setup and favor your own clubs players, but at the same time you should be more focused on getting a better team. Bilbao manages to be at the top levels with just basque players but that doesn't sound like they are utilizing themselves fully, imagine being this good and not getting anyone else, and then add other nationality players on top of this, you will certainly be doing a lot better.

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January 14, 2022, 11:02:32 PM
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We can conclude that only Real Madrid and Sevilla compete for the title. Atletico Madrid and Barcelona are clearly out of the title race this season since their point gaps are too far from Real Madrid or Sevilla points.
If we look at the points so far, it is true that only those two clubs have the potential to beat each other in standings. The points are close enough, only 5 in the gap (Sevilla still has 1 match again). Both Real Madrid and Sevilla have the chance to be the top standing.
Real Betis, although this is in the third position, they still have a high gap on the points, but if they will not lose any match and collect the points, he may also have the chance, but a little bit low than the two both above.
If we are talking about Atletico Madrid and Barcelona, well, they seem they are enough at the position. Moreover Barcelona, not underestimating, but this club is still struggling not only in the match but also struggling in their management and performance itself. Many lines still should be well managed again.

Btw for tomorrow's matches, I bet that Villarreal and Real Betis will have a higher chance to win.

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January 14, 2022, 11:35:11 PM
Last edit: January 15, 2022, 12:26:35 AM by AndySt
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Just because a team plays only a certain nationality (or even area) players doesn't mean that they are playing "the real football" type of situation, it just doesn't mean that at all. It is classic that we are talking about something that is just a limited version of football and that is not really meaning anything in this day and age.
To be fair, I could even say that it is a bit racist to deny playing other nationality players as well, you can have a great youth setup and favor your own clubs players, but at the same time you should be more focused on getting a better team. Bilbao manages to be at the top levels with just basque players but that doesn't sound like they are utilizing themselves fully, imagine being this good and not getting anyone else, and then add other nationality players on top of this, you will certainly be doing a lot better.
Betting exclusively on Basque players has always been a trademark of Athletic Bilbao and has been a system-forming factor that in some way cements the team, serves as the core and basis of identity. Although, of course, for the sake of this, at times it was necessary to resort to all sorts of tricks, looking for Basque ancestors from candidates for the team. But this is the cementing foundation and at the same time is a deterrent that does not allow using the full breadth of potential candidates. However, let's also not forget about Athletic Bilbao's not the most huge financial resources, so such an approach in recruiting a team is to some extent justified and understandable.
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January 15, 2022, 03:30:01 AM
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Betting exclusively on Basque players has always been a trademark of Athletic Bilbao and has been a system-forming factor that in some way cements the team, serves as the core and basis of identity. Although, of course, for the sake of this, at times it was necessary to resort to all sorts of tricks, looking for Basque ancestors from candidates for the team. But this is the cementing foundation and at the same time is a deterrent that does not allow using the full breadth of potential candidates. However, let's also not forget about Athletic Bilbao's not the most huge financial resources, so such an approach in recruiting a team is to some extent justified and understandable.
Athletic are very confident to maintain their traditional strategy on the way they use players. It is unique strategy even in La Liga. I don't know other clubs in La Liga only use their local players like Athletic .

They are not big club in Spain but they have very good history and tradition and they successfully survive in La Liga. It makes sense and shows that their strategy works. Also it shows that their scout teams and academy work very effectively to find talented youth players and grow them up for the club.

La Masia can be a most famous academy in Spain but Athletic academy does it jobs very well too.

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January 15, 2022, 03:37:54 AM
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Memphis Depay is greatest player and he has more contribution for his country but when Xavi Hernandez back to Barcelona he less contribution for team and not get many minutes playing right now, his position always change by Fati and some time Luuk De Jong take as forward replace Depay position, better looking for new club if Barcelona not giving minutes player for Depay exactly he has top performance right now and I think easy how to find new club for him.
Depay does have good potential, maybe Xavi doesn't suit him. Depay himself still has a good chance out there, but does he really have the intention to go and get ready for a new city out there? while at Barcelona Depay did not provide much of a role on the field because Xavi had other options. Isn't it a shame for a Depay to be left to rust at his ideal age to continue to hone and develop the skills he has as a striker.

A player like Memphis can easily play for Barcelona. He is very talented, fast and good at finishing. Xavi will definitely consider him. If he doesn't give any more jerseys or makes it clear he doesn't want Memphis then Memphis might want to go. Every team wants to see a football player with his potential in their team. He could possibly go to the Premier League. If they lose Memphis, it would be sad for Barça.

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January 15, 2022, 04:01:10 AM
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Memphis Depay is greatest player and he has more contribution for his country but when Xavi Hernandez back to Barcelona he less contribution for team and not get many minutes playing right now, his position always change by Fati and some time Luuk De Jong take as forward replace Depay position, better looking for new club if Barcelona not giving minutes player for Depay exactly he has top performance right now and I think easy how to find new club for him.
Depay does have good potential, maybe Xavi doesn't suit him. Depay himself still has a good chance out there, but does he really have the intention to go and get ready for a new city out there? while at Barcelona Depay did not provide much of a role on the field because Xavi had other options. Isn't it a shame for a Depay to be left to rust at his ideal age to continue to hone and develop the skills he has as a striker.

A player like Memphis can easily play for Barcelona. He is very talented, fast and good at finishing. Xavi will definitely consider him. If he doesn't give any more jerseys or makes it clear he doesn't want Memphis then Memphis might want to go. Every team wants to see a football player with his potential in their team. He could possibly go to the Premier League. If they lose Memphis, it would be sad for Barça.

If Memphis leaves the question is who is going to replace him? Barcelona won't have many shots during the next transfer window when it comes to superstars. Firstly there is the financial problem they are dealing with, and secondly their reputation has suffered so much over the course of the last month in regards to their status as one of the best clubs in the world that the absolute superstars we right now have don't really consider Barcelona option number 1 anymore. If Memphis now leaves, that would mean a further downgrade to their squad's quality as they most likely won't be able to replace him besides signing further world stars.

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January 15, 2022, 04:12:44 AM
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Athletic Bilbao really made it by toppling Atletico Madrid with a 2-1 result. It was a deserved and huge victory for them as they turned the game around and won. Atletico Madrid still continue to disappoint their fans. I don't know what the real reason behind this awful form is. They need to do something to gather themselves up and play like in their old times. Otherwise, the rest of the season can be really difficult for them.
I expected Atletico Madrid to win the game. Moreover, they were the first to secure a goal 62 minutes in the second half. I literally thought they would defense the goal to the end of the game. But, Alvarez was able to equalize the score with Muniain assisting him 15 minutes later. Athletic Bilbao not been satisfy with the draw, probably scored their 2nd goal, and as this point I knew it was the end of the road for Atletico. However, Athletic Bilbao performed greatly, but they have to prepare themselves for the finals against Real Madrid tomorrow



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January 15, 2022, 04:30:17 AM
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Memphis Depay is greatest player and he has more contribution for his country but when Xavi Hernandez back to Barcelona he less contribution for team and not get many minutes playing right now, his position always change by Fati and some time Luuk De Jong take as forward replace Depay position, better looking for new club if Barcelona not giving minutes player for Depay exactly he has top performance right now and I think easy how to find new club for him.
Depay does have good potential, maybe Xavi doesn't suit him. Depay himself still has a good chance out there, but does he really have the intention to go and get ready for a new city out there? while at Barcelona Depay did not provide much of a role on the field because Xavi had other options. Isn't it a shame for a Depay to be left to rust at his ideal age to continue to hone and develop the skills he has as a striker.

A player like Memphis can easily play for Barcelona. He is very talented, fast and good at finishing. Xavi will definitely consider him. If he doesn't give any more jerseys or makes it clear he doesn't want Memphis then Memphis might want to go. Every team wants to see a football player with his potential in their team. He could possibly go to the Premier League. If they lose Memphis, it would be sad for Barça.

If Memphis leaves the question is who is going to replace him? Barcelona won't have many shots during the next transfer window when it comes to superstars. Firstly there is the financial problem they are dealing with, and secondly their reputation has suffered so much over the course of the last month in regards to their status as one of the best clubs in the world that the absolute superstars we right now have don't really consider Barcelona option number 1 anymore. If Memphis now leaves, that would mean a further downgrade to their squad's quality as they most likely won't be able to replace him besides signing further world stars.
Has chance for Memphis Depay leaving Barcelona trough under Xavi Hernandez as head coach he looks difficult to be starting eleven player and most ever Luuk De Jong become starter eleven right now. I think Juventus have announce interested with Memphis Depay and I think if have good values asking by Juventus will easy for Barcelona to sell him, about who will replace Memphis Depay position if leaving Barcelona I think Ansu Fati have fit right now and will be permanently as left winger position. Memphis Depay not happy right now after Koeman out from Barcelona and arrive Xavi not git him contribution for playing in several match as starting eleven player.

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January 15, 2022, 06:04:56 AM
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Athletic Bilbao really made it by toppling Atletico Madrid with a 2-1 result. It was a deserved and huge victory for them as they turned the game around and won. Atletico Madrid still continue to disappoint their fans. I don't know what the real reason behind this awful form is. They need to do something to gather themselves up and play like in their old times. Otherwise, the rest of the season can be really difficult for them.
I expected Atletico Madrid to win the game. Moreover, they were the first to secure a goal 62 minutes in the second half. I literally thought they would defense the goal to the end of the game. But, Alvarez was able to equalize the score with Muniain assisting him 15 minutes later. Athletic Bilbao not been satisfy with the draw, probably scored their 2nd goal, and as this point I knew it was the end of the road for Atletico. However, Athletic Bilbao performed greatly, but they have to prepare themselves for the finals against Real Madrid tomorrow

The end of Atletico Madrid's journey in this year's Spanish Super Cup. They have to admit defeat to Bilbao. Actually I expected Atletico Madrid to appear in the final against Real Madrid. But here's what happened.
My prediction is that Real Madrid will come out victorious, considering they are almost superior in all aspects to Bilbao. However, I expect an interesting game from the 2 teams in the final.

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January 15, 2022, 06:15:07 AM
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If you understand the Barcelona's system, you'll see no chance of Memphis Depay playing under Xavi Hernandez or having game time in the first eleven.
It will be sure difficult for him to slide in, anyways I hope Barcelona wins their game's ahead, getting a decent defending player that's composed will be of great help to the team.
Thay had a good game during the Super Cup, I think now loads of work needs to be done in the defense, and hopefully they get into the top four or end up winning the Europa league competition.

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January 15, 2022, 07:54:32 AM
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If you understand the Barcelona's system, you'll see no chance of Memphis Depay playing under Xavi Hernandez or having game time in the first eleven.
It will be sure difficult for him to slide in, anyways I hope Barcelona wins their game's ahead, getting a decent defending player that's composed will be of great help to the team.
Thay had a good game during the Super Cup, I think now loads of work needs to be done in the defense, and hopefully they get into the top four or end up winning the Europa league competition.
After all, the Barcelona squad is like a newly built squad so it's natural that there are some players who were originally expected to contribute to the team but were eventually eliminated. Also, the fact that Barcelona is very close to the top four, so there is no doubt for Barcelona this season that at least Barcelona have the ability to finish in the top four at the end of this season. That's enough I think, but if Xavi can really build the team faster then surely the chance to win the UEL title could be the first trophy target he will achieve.

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January 15, 2022, 08:17:41 AM
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If you understand the Barcelona's system, you'll see no chance of Memphis Depay playing under Xavi Hernandez or having game time in the first eleven.
It will be sure difficult for him to slide in, anyways I hope Barcelona wins their game's ahead, getting a decent defending player that's composed will be of great help to the team.
Thay had a good game during the Super Cup, I think now loads of work needs to be done in the defense, and hopefully they get into the top four or end up winning the Europa league competition.
I think have enough player on forward position after get Ferran Torres and Barcelona have many option except have Luuk De Jong and Memphis Depay, just weakness of Barcelona in this season is defender area and Pique have over I think. Need get new player on defender position to replace Pique because he is not strong for facing team when attacking counter, He is always quite far behind when the opposing team builds a counter-attack, I think it's time for Pique to be on the bench and prefer young players who have good stamina to fill defensive positions at Barcelona.

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January 15, 2022, 08:32:58 AM
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With ancelotti men meeting Athletic Bilbao in the coppa dereye final I think Madrid  will win this cup, I think Atletico Madrid would have face them men to men but unfortunately they lose in the final then I know the final won't be interesting because Madrid must surely win that game.
I'm a little disappointed over Atletico Madrid's defeat and having to walk out of the title race. I did not expect that Bilbao would appear in the final against Real Madrid. I agree that Real Madrid will come out as champions this year. Hopefully both teams will come up with an interesting game treat.

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January 15, 2022, 08:34:30 AM
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Athletic Bilbao really made it by toppling Atletico Madrid with a 2-1 result. It was a deserved and huge victory for them as they turned the game around and won. Atletico Madrid still continue to disappoint their fans. I don't know what the real reason behind this awful form is. They need to do something to gather themselves up and play like in their old times. Otherwise, the rest of the season can be really difficult for them.

Atletico Madrid team has a lot to do to improve in this tournament. They can still top up in this game if their coach can make some changes in their defenders players and to make the players United as before to be able to achieve the title of this tournament. Atletico Madrid team was a team many fans admired in terms of winning easily without struggle for it because their strategies are very good.

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January 15, 2022, 09:27:11 AM
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Today is the day for the Copa del Rey matches in last 16 round. And the most delightful match could be Betis - Sevilla I think. Because they both are doing perfect in the La Liga nowadays. Sevilla are fighting for the league title and Betis are at the third position in the standings. I don't know how much each one of them will care about this tournament but they should care about it. Because especially Betis have not a chance for the league title so they can try their luck in this cup. And maybe they can even get past Sevilla too.
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January 15, 2022, 09:40:38 AM
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Today is the day for the Copa del Rey matches in last 16 round. And the most delightful match could be Betis - Sevilla I think. Because they both are doing perfect in the La Liga nowadays. Sevilla are fighting for the league title and Betis are at the third position in the standings. I don't know how much each one of them will care about this tournament but they should care about it. Because especially Betis have not a chance for the league title so they can try their luck in this cup. And maybe they can even get past Sevilla too.

Although Real Betis are third in the points table, they are 10 points behind Sevilla. Moreover, it does not seem that Real Betis is in good form now. In the last few matches, they have lost to Atletico Bilbao and Celta Vigo. Sevilla's performance is very stable. Their defense is strong, the players are confident now. Sevilla will win the match against Real Betis. My prediction is that Sevilla will win 2-1.

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January 15, 2022, 09:55:15 AM
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If you understand the Barcelona's system, you'll see no chance of Memphis Depay playing under Xavi Hernandez or having game time in the first eleven.
It will be sure difficult for him to slide in, anyways I hope Barcelona wins their game's ahead, getting a decent defending player that's composed will be of great help to the team.
Thay had a good game during the Super Cup, I think now loads of work needs to be done in the defense, and hopefully they get into the top four or end up winning the Europa league competition.
After all, the Barcelona squad is like a newly built squad so it's natural that there are some players who were originally expected to contribute to the team but were eventually eliminated. Also, the fact that Barcelona is very close to the top four, so there is no doubt for Barcelona this season that at least Barcelona have the ability to finish in the top four at the end of this season. That's enough I think, but if Xavi can really build the team faster then surely the chance to win the UEL title could be the first trophy target he will achieve.

I think Xavi has done wonders with the squad. Barcelona are not in their strongest positions, but with what he's been given,  Xavi is doing a great job in bringing the results. Even though they lost, they played really well against Real Madrid.


If you understand the Barcelona's system, you'll see no chance of Memphis Depay playing under Xavi Hernandez or having game time in the first eleven.
It will be sure difficult for him to slide in, anyways I hope Barcelona wins their game's ahead, getting a decent defending player that's composed will be of great help to the team.
Thay had a good game during the Super Cup, I think now loads of work needs to be done in the defense, and hopefully they get into the top four or end up winning the Europa league competition.
I think have enough player on forward position after get Ferran Torres and Barcelona have many option except have Luuk De Jong and Memphis Depay, just weakness of Barcelona in this season is defender area and Pique have over I think. Need get new player on defender position to replace Pique because he is not strong for facing team when attacking counter, He is always quite far behind when the opposing team builds a counter-attack, I think it's time for Pique to be on the bench and prefer young players who have good stamina to fill defensive positions at Barcelona.

In the present situation, the Barca forward is so far okay, now they need some time and need to get players in the defense and maybe a defensive midfielder. Pique is aging and so are Busquets so they need replacements asap.

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January 15, 2022, 11:13:07 AM
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If you understand the Barcelona's system, you'll see no chance of Memphis Depay playing under Xavi Hernandez or having game time in the first eleven.
It will be sure difficult for him to slide in, anyways I hope Barcelona wins their game's ahead, getting a decent defending player that's composed will be of great help to the team.
Thay had a good game during the Super Cup, I think now loads of work needs to be done in the defense, and hopefully they get into the top four or end up winning the Europa league competition.
Barcelona which is known as one of the Spanish giants, has experienced a decline in performance since being coached by Ronald Koeman. In the hands of Ronald Koeman barcelona did not get a trophy, it became a bad career for Ronald Koeman and barcelona.
The arrival of Xavi is expected to be able to provide new enthusiasm for players. But Xavi task is not easy, he also needs a lot of time to remake Barcelona style of play like when he was coached by Pep Guardiola and Luis Enrique.
Barcelona need two or three new players to strengthen the squad, besides Ferran Torres they must immediately bring in new talents who are able to elevate the degree of Barcelona.

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January 15, 2022, 11:27:59 AM
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If you understand the Barcelona's system, you'll see no chance of Memphis Depay playing under Xavi Hernandez or having game time in the first eleven.
It will be sure difficult for him to slide in, anyways I hope Barcelona wins their game's ahead, getting a decent defending player that's composed will be of great help to the team.
Thay had a good game during the Super Cup, I think now loads of work needs to be done in the defense, and hopefully they get into the top four or end up winning the Europa league competition.
After all, the Barcelona squad is like a newly built squad so it's natural that there are some players who were originally expected to contribute to the team but were eventually eliminated. Also, the fact that Barcelona is very close to the top four, so there is no doubt for Barcelona this season that at least Barcelona have the ability to finish in the top four at the end of this season. That's enough I think, but if Xavi can really build the team faster then surely the chance to win the UEL title could be the first trophy target he will achieve.

I think Xavi has done wonders with the squad. Barcelona are not in their strongest positions, but with what he's been given,  Xavi is doing a great job in bringing the results. Even though they lost, they played really well against Real Madrid.
Yes, that's why I say Barcelona are very close to the top four even though before Xavi came Barcelona seemed to have lost hope for that position at the end of the season. With this change then of course Xavi has indeed managed to give good results so far, that's what I also said about the Barcelona squad is still relatively young but Xavi in fact is able to continue to make Barcelona improve slowly. If Xavi can make big changes quickly then surely Barcelona have a great chance of getting the UEL title about the fast process I said before, whereas basically Xavi has been doing well gradually.

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