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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
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January 30, 2022, 11:33:38 PM
Last edit: January 31, 2022, 12:52:23 AM by AndySt
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Yes you are right mate. Solksjaer was a ManU legend when he was a football player, but being a coach is very different. I don't see much of good old players who are technically proficient. Perhaps Guardiola could be the exception. The number of people who are good when they are both a football player and a coach is rare. Likewise, Roberto Carlos remained weak as a coach. Zinedine Zidane was considered good, but his playing football was much better. Xavi gives me hope. It seems to me that he will have a great career as a coach.
You are the same people who used to say Zidane was “lucky” to win games. Until a coach wins 3 consecutive UCL titles in the least amount of time, then there is nothing you are going to say to me convincing me that Zidane isn't among the greats in terms of coaching.
If you talk about squad strength, remember the likes of Guardiola failed to win a UCL title with Bayern Munich and now still struggling the same with Manchester City.
All this does not negate the fact that all the successes of Zinedine Zidane are associated with only one team, which is Real Madrid, so I still think it is not entirely correct to compare Zidane with Pep Guardiola, who achieved success in both the championship and the Champions League with Barcelona, and also won titles with Bayern and Manchester City. Therefore, Guardiola has already managed to prove his coaching ability in other championships, which has not yet happened with Zidane. At the same time, I personally have no doubt about Zidane's professional coaching qualities and the Champions League titles are excellent evidence of this, but still we have not yet seen Zidane in conditions other than Spanish.
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January 31, 2022, 12:19:47 AM
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Barcelona - Atletico
why are they putting barcelona as a favorite?  barcelona has a better chance of drawing in this game, so I do not see barcelona as a favorite in this game in my opinion, looking at barcelona that manages to draw with small teams then game against Atletico will be another draw
They favor Barcelona probably because the match will be held in Camp Nou stadium. Another reason, Barcelona performance in the last 5 matches looks better than Atletico Madrid.  They can win 3 times, 2 draws, and 0 lose. While Atletico Madrid got 2 losses, 2 wins, and 1 draw. If we consider the stats, it is reasonable to favor Barcelona as the winner in the upcoming match. However, I agree with you that the upcoming match seems to have a draw result. I believe Atletico Madrid won't be easy to be defeated, IMO they have a stronger squad than Barcelona has.

But looking on defender Barcelona is really good performance beside Atletico Madrid defender have the same cases where last games against Valencia, Atletico Madrid had to fall behind by 2 goals first and it looks like Atletico Madrid's back line is also not as good as Barcelona.
I think both team have great motivate how to win after position standing just left one points only, who success out as the winner in this game back to top four position for Barcelona and make Atletico Madrid far from Barcelona position leaving 4 points.

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January 31, 2022, 05:26:54 AM
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We are only one week away from the big match between Barcelona and Atletico Madrid in the La Liga. And I would like to share my opinion about how it could end also. Above all else, I don't think that any of the teams here are the highly favourite of the match. They are similar to each other these days. They both have been having difficulties in winning league matches comfortably. Taking this into account, I think that we will watch a very competitive match. I think that Atletico Madrid will prefer to play safer as they are the away team. I think that both of them will score and it might end up with a draw.
I think the match is likely to end in a draw. In the past, one of the two teams could be seen as the favourite. But in the current situation they are not really doing well. Of course, both teams have a chance to win, but the probability of a draw seems higher.
When both teams will enter into ground then all results possible because on ground anything can happen with any team but with current form Barcelona is looking somehow better than Atletico Madrid because current form is Barcelona 11 points from last 5 matches and Atletico Madrid just 7 from last 5 means home is improving their performance and having some better quality than visitors so most chances they can win still chances that match can end into draw as well.

Because Atletico Madrid is very good and strong team even they are facing some bad time still capable of doing some surprising results against any team and Barcelona is improving but still they are not strong enough to win easily against top ranked teams.

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January 31, 2022, 09:03:20 AM
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Actually, the problem which Barcelona faced did not just happen in a day. It's not like they made one bad transfer and went bankrupt, okay?

You have to understand that it happened over time and only came to light when they had to sell Messi.
Before that, a lot of people didn't even know they had a money problem.
And with difficulty finding investors, the situation only worsened.

Now their best way to get out of it is to wait out for a season and save money and then make some moves on the transfer market.

Yeah, long before Suarez or Messi left, and arguably even during the era of MSN we could already feel the rope tightening.

And the worse thing for me is how late some of the information became public, and in fact how bad the conditions were, and how long the people at the club already knew about it (the stadium getting pigeon shit into food for example is shocking).

This is going to be a lot more than 1 season of pain I would say though. A LOT more. But then again, they got Traore and want to buy more so I guess I don't know what I'm saying.

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January 31, 2022, 09:38:38 AM
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I am one among who miss messi from Barcelona. Not sure why he is not part of current team. But wish he should have been here. Yes, but without Messi, other players are really performing well better than Atlaltico Madrid. Next match is going to be with Atlatico Madrid on 6th Feb. There are lot chances for Barcelono to move up to 4th place. Will wait for the match until 6th Feb. 

Messi was one of the best players in the world. He was an unstoppable star while playing for Barcelona. But even though he was playing for the current team, the team's place in the league would not change much, Barcelona started the league by playing very badly this year.
Although individual performances are important, for a long time, no one did anything for the team. So it didn't matter much if one or two players changed. The important thing is to have a good relationship between the coach, the players and the fans Smiley

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Barcelona have reached an agreement with Adama Traore on a loan deal. And I think that this is not a very good transfer for Barcelona. Because I really wonder what Xavi sees in him. They haven't signed him permanently of course but they still could have brough a much better winger than him. Maybe he cost them not too much which was attracting to them. But I really can't dream Traore playing compatibly with the team. He has nothing special beside his speed and strength. He is lacking when it comes to passes and scoring.

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January 31, 2022, 11:15:49 AM
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I see that most of those discussing the match between Barcelona and Atlético have doubts about the fairness of the fact that Barcelona is ranked as the favourite. In the meantime, the odds from the bookmakers do not change in any way (even slightly changed in favor of Barcelona):

Atletico are also having a tough season. Last match they were able to get points out of their match against Valencia after they scored some late goals. Xavi has good options in Barca and his tactics and strategies are improving Barca level of play. With recent signings of players from PL like Traore and Torres I am not surprised Barca are favourites here. Also it is a crucial match between two top teams so anything can happen. I am on Barca on this one, Barca are on their road to recovery but I don't see any sign of improvement in Atletico's performance.

I would like to know what matches made you think that Barcelona are improving their level of play. In my opinion, they are degrading - returning to the outdated Tiki Taka strategy. With such a lineup of performers, this strategy is meaningless, plus it is 2022 now, most teams already know how to successfully counter it. As for transfers, yes, they will strengthen the team a little, but Atlético's squad is still better.

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January 31, 2022, 12:52:34 PM
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Aubameyang to Barcelona?

Does anyone see this move happening soon?

It's said that Barcelona in advanced talks over signing the striker on loan – source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12528631/barcelona-in-advanced-talks-with-arsenal-over-aubameyang-loan

Apparently, Aubameyang has to be willing to take a pay cut as part of the deal

Will Aubameyang make a huge impact in the Barcelona team once he crosses over from Arsenal
I also found this information from one of the Spanish journalists who said that Aubameyang who no longer has a bright future at Arsenal, his release has also been seriously discussed with Barcelona. These rumors quickly rose to the surface and have confirmed that Aubameyang future to Barcelona is a bright spot for Barcelona's progress.

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January 31, 2022, 01:00:28 PM
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Aubameyang to Barcelona?

Does anyone see this move happening soon?

It's said that Barcelona in advanced talks over signing the striker on loan – source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/12528631/barcelona-in-advanced-talks-with-arsenal-over-aubameyang-loan

Apparently, Aubameyang has to be willing to take a pay cut as part of the deal

Will Aubameyang make a huge impact in the Barcelona team once he crosses over from Arsenal
I also found this information from one of the Spanish journalists who said that Aubameyang who no longer has a bright future at Arsenal, his release has also been seriously discussed with Barcelona. These rumors quickly rose to the surface and have confirmed that Aubameyang future to Barcelona is a bright spot for Barcelona's progress.

i honestly don't see how he treats positive changes to barcelona, ​​if we were talking about a player like benzema or vinicius junior or that aa from roma that i don't remember the name then i could say they would bring change to barcelona

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January 31, 2022, 01:42:19 PM
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I am one among who miss messi from Barcelona. Not sure why he is not part of current team. But wish he should have been here. Yes, but without Messi, other players are really performing well better than Atlaltico Madrid. Next match is going to be with Atlatico Madrid on 6th Feb. There are lot chances for Barcelono to move up to 4th place. Will wait for the match until 6th Feb. 

Messi was one of the best players in the world. He was an unstoppable star while playing for Barcelona. But even though he was playing for the current team, the team's place in the league would not change much, Barcelona started the league by playing very badly this year.
Although individual performances are important, for a long time, no one did anything for the team. So it didn't matter much if one or two players changed. The important thing is to have a good relationship between the coach, the players and the fans Smiley

Every fair tale must come to an end ...even for Messi. He is not the player he used to be and we cannot blame him as the age gets to all of us. However, Messi never liked to work hard and train hard in order to push himself over the limit and we can see this in the last 2 years of him playing. In my honest opinion , Messi won't play on the same level as Cr7 in the next years.

Anyway, Barcelona is on the good road again even if the road is a long one to go.

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January 31, 2022, 02:44:55 PM
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Meanwhile, the financial situation in Barcelona continues to deteriorate:

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The vice president of the Economic Area, Eduard Romeu, explained how Barça closed the 2020/21 financial year with income of 631 million euros, well below the 828 million set in the budget, which also forecast a profit of 1 million euros.

Operating expenses increased by 19% on the previous season, from 955 million to 1,136 million euros, a record figure in the history of the club. Finally, the result for the year was a loss of 481 million euros, caused both by the drop in revenue and by the inability to contain expenses.

Despite the negative figures, Romeu stressed that the current Board of Directors has prepared a strategic plan to reverse this economic situation in the next five years.
https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/news/2294353/approval-of-202021-accounts-and-202122-budget

In one year, Barcelona increased the loss by almost half a billion euros. This is a monstrous number. It looks like the club's management does not know how to work at least without loss. I would like to know how they plan to get out of this situation and what will happen if Barcelona cannot pay their debts.
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January 31, 2022, 03:02:26 PM
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But looking on defender Barcelona is really good performance beside Atletico Madrid defender have the same cases where last games against Valencia, Atletico Madrid had to fall behind by 2 goals first and it looks like Atletico Madrid's back line is also not as good as Barcelona.
I think both team have great motivate how to win after position standing just left one points only, who success out as the winner in this game back to top four position for Barcelona and make Atletico Madrid far from Barcelona position leaving 4 points.
Barcelona's defenders are currently progressing quite rapidly when compared to previous matches but on the other hand their attackers are still unable to take advantage of the momentum and supply provided by their defenders and midfielders.
I still feel in this match both teams will be very difficult to score goals. Their problems are pretty much the same at the moment because Athletico is also after Suarez's injury they still can't be productive in goals

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January 31, 2022, 03:11:36 PM
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I would like to know what matches made you think that Barcelona are improving their level of play. In my opinion, they are degrading - returning to the outdated Tiki Taka strategy. With such a lineup of performers, this strategy is meaningless, plus it is 2022 now, most teams already know how to successfully counter it. As for transfers, yes, they will strengthen the team a little, but Atlético's squad is still better.
Yes, the tiki taka game that they played again only made them superior in ball possession. But as for finishing, they will be tough now, not like they used to be in their heyday. It is true that the strategy can now be read by the opposing team. And of course every coach of the team they played against, would have been prepared to stop that.

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January 31, 2022, 04:05:44 PM
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In one year, Barcelona increased the loss by almost half a billion euros. This is a monstrous number. It looks like the club's management does not know how to work at least without loss. I would like to know how they plan to get out of this situation and what will happen if Barcelona cannot pay their debts.

This very deteriorating financial condition is very feasible they are looking for investors to buy a club that is sick in terms of finances.  But it's undeniable, if the management sells this club it won't be as valuable as it should be.  A very large debt must be paid if the dissolution is not in sight.  How can a club that is financially disrupted continue to be in debt and hope to cover it.
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Real Madrid is one of the most favorite team presently in La Liga. Their squad are strong enough to withstand other top clubs in the League. Also, from the current performance of theirs, Madrid are likely to win the La Liga title this season. Although, they have won a trophy already this season (Super cup).
However, Madrid have the Copa del Rey quarter finals match against Athletic Club ahead. Is an away match for them, but the game will be quiet tough. Athletic Club won't want to lose the match, because they lost the Super cup to Madrid. But despite that, I think Real Madrid are
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January 31, 2022, 04:24:58 PM
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However, Madrid have the Copa del Rey quarter finals match against Athletic Club ahead. Is an away match for them, but the game will be quiet tough. Athletic Club won't want to lose the match, because they lost the Super cup to Madrid. But despite that, I think Real Madrid are
 the favorite here.  

Athletic Club is a very good team. Their main problem is that even if they play well, they can't maintain consistency. Athletic Club's gameplay is good enough. At the same time they play offensively. We have seen many times that the Athletic Club has surprised everyone by winning against the favorite teams. So this is a very difficult match for Real Madrid. Real Madrid's main goal is La Liga. After confirming the La Ligar title, they will want to win the Copa del Rey title. I think Athletic Club has a chance to win this match.

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January 31, 2022, 04:52:48 PM
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Real Madrid is one of the most favorite team presently in La Liga. Their squad are strong enough to withstand other top clubs in the League. Also, from the current performance of theirs, Madrid are likely to win the La Liga title this season. Although, they have won a trophy already this season (Super cup).
However, Madrid have the Copa del Rey quarter finals match against Athletic Club ahead. Is an away match for them, but the game will be quiet tough. Athletic Club won't want to lose the match, because they lost the Super cup to Madrid. But despite that, I think Real Madrid are
 the favorite here.  
Madrid success defeat Athletic Bilbao last match on final Spain Super Cup where Luka Modric and Karim Benzema become super hero with one goal each other and give first trophy for Real Madrid. I think will be the same composition player for Madrid again faced Athletic Bilbao on Cope del Rey quarter final on Friday night, I think Madrid want to get all trophies in this season because still have good chance on La Liga, Champion League and now waiting for Madrid get back Copa del Rey after missing with long time.

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January 31, 2022, 05:04:02 PM
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Where did you get this odds for Real Madrid, I tried to check some sites such as Stake and duelbits but still cant find the markets for this match. I check livescore, the odds for Real Madrid is more than 2.3. Saying Atletico Bilbao has no chance against Real Madrid is exaggerated, I will not underestimate Atletico Bilbao but I have to say that Real Madrid is obvious favorite in this match.
I wrote about the final of the Spanish Super Cup, where Real Madrid confidently beat Athletic with a score of 2:0. In this match, Real Madrid had a odds of 1.75, there is no secret in this and it can be easily checked on flashsore.com. By the way, Real Madrid won this match very confidently. And you are already talking about the upcoming match, where Real Madrid will play away and for this match, Real Madrid has a odds of 2.15, which is very good. This gives us the opportunity to play Real with a handicap (0).

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January 31, 2022, 05:32:39 PM
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Real Madrid is one of the most favorite team presently in La Liga. Their squad are strong enough to withstand other top clubs in the League. Also, from the current performance of theirs, Madrid are likely to win the La Liga title this season. Although, they have won a trophy already this season (Super cup).
However, Madrid have the Copa del Rey quarter finals match against Athletic Club ahead. Is an away match for them, but the game will be quiet tough. Athletic Club won't want to lose the match, because they lost the Super cup to Madrid. But despite that, I think Real Madrid are
 the favorite here.  
Madrid success defeat Athletic Bilbao last match on final Spain Super Cup where Luka Modric and Karim Benzema become super hero with one goal each other and give first trophy for Real Madrid. I think will be the same composition player for Madrid again faced Athletic Bilbao on Cope del Rey quarter final on Friday night, I think Madrid want to get all trophies in this season because still have good chance on La Liga, Champion League and now waiting for Madrid get back Copa del Rey after missing with long time.

Yes, I also think that RMA is definitely the favorite in the match. And I also think it's safe to say that Madrid is going to will the league title as well. Because right now the teams which should have given Real Madrid a good fight for the title are really not posing a threat for them. Seems like Real Madrid domination for quite some time in the future at least.

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January 31, 2022, 05:34:21 PM
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Real Madrid is one of the most favorite team presently in La Liga. Their squad are strong enough to withstand other top clubs in the League. Also, from the current performance of theirs, Madrid are likely to win the La Liga title this season. Although, they have won a trophy already this season (Super cup).
Real Madrid are on good direction to win La Liga but the season has a lot of matches ahead and despite of current good gap with other teams, Real Madrid must manage their best form in rest of the season. They have good chance, good position to win La Liga but only if they won't lose too many points.

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However, Madrid have the Copa del Rey quarter finals match against Athletic Club ahead. Is an away match for them, but the game will be quiet tough. Athletic Club won't want to lose the match, because they lost the Super cup to Madrid. But despite that, I think Real Madrid are
 the favorite here.  
Both clubs don't want to lose it and they will make that match very exciting to see. Athletic will want to beat Real Madrid for sure but Real Madrid is a very big test and high mountain for them to climb.

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