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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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October 30, 2023, 02:01:30 PM
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In the seconds half, Barcelona seemed to be having difficulty and were unable to defend their goal so that Real Madrid were unable to break into their goal, but it turn out that Real Madrid was able to score their first goal through Bellingham and Bellingham scored second goal in the final minute to determine Real Madrid victory in the El Clasico match.

I thought that the match would end in a draw, but in fact Real Madrid won the match, this was a real shame for Barcelona because they couldn't hold on to the 3 points in home.
And yes, Real Madrid has performed extraordinary this season since they had Jude Bellingham and Jude Bellingham has been able to contribution well to the Real Madrid club.

It was clear that Barcelona experienced problems in the second half, this happened due to the replacement of several players. automatically, the system and pattern that Xavi initially implemented changed according to the player who replaced him. That's why I really regret what Xavi did in the second half. Lewandowski's entry in the 61st minute changed the pattern of the game. plus, the strategy implemented. however, Belliham's goal was truly cool when he equalized. Unfortunately, instead of changing his tactics, Xavi withdrew Fermin Tores and was replaced by Oriol Romeu. plus, loosening up his defensive line by bringing in Lamine Yamal and attracting Joao Cancelo and Raphinha.

As we can see, Real Madrid turned more likely to control ball possession in the second half. Even though they had almost the same chances in the second half, Real Madrid was better based on opportunities. they had 4 shots on target, 1 big chance.  At this point, for me personally, Xavi did the calculations incorrectly. Finally, they experienced defeat for the first time. It could be said that Madrid's winning goal was a stroke of luck created in the 92nd minute.
for me personally, this defeat is quite natural. next, in the second meeting I hope Barca can play in full without players who are absent due to injury.

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October 30, 2023, 02:04:18 PM
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In an official statemen t given by Madrid it was said that Tchouameni is currently sidelined for 2 months due to a foot injury, which of course is a loss because several Madrid players are also currently under treatment.
However, the risk is worth it as the matches are so tight and the tension is so high that it becomes a burden as the players are required to perform in matches that inevitably leave them exhausted.
But fortunately, Madrid midfield is still very complex now because  after all there are stilll several players who can indeed be used as defensive midfield option for Madrid. 
I also know this news after reading several articles shared by several people here that the injury suffered by Tchouameni will indeed hinder the player's career a little for a while and for Real Madrid this is not a serious problem because there is still Modric as you said and one On the side there is still Joselu who is ready to replace Tchouameni's position even though Joselu is not a midfielder but he is always ready to be in several roles and we will still see Madrid perform as usual even though they lost 1 player but Real Madrid does not lack players.
Even though Tchouameni will leave football for 2 months, it is not a big problem because Tchouameni gave pride when he helped Real Madrid to win the El Clasico match.
With Tchouameni temporarily gone from the club, the central midfield role will inevitably fall to Modric/Kroos but there are other possibilities such as trying to maximize young players like Camavinga who have been in this position and played very well so in this case anything is possible.
It is difficult when the schedule is tight because in 1 week Madrid must attend 3 matches including El Clasico which will certainly make some players who are rarely replaced will always be in the port including Tchouameni. Moreover, Tchouameni is one of the players who is actually quite a range in Madrid.

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October 30, 2023, 02:17:57 PM
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I don't know if it caught your attention, but Atletico Madrid is playing more offensive football this year. In the past years, they would score a goal and then try to keep the score and play defensively focused football. We are watching a completely different Atletico Madrid this season. Their matches are over 2.5 goals. Especially Griezman and Morata bear the burden of scoring goals and they are in good form at the moment. Morata scored again in the match played yesterday. If I place a bet from now on, I will also bet on Atletico Madrid matches. I don't know if they will win their matches, but I will play for over 2.5 goals and pass.

I don't think it's anything new when a team has won quickly at half-time, then they are free to apply the next strategy to keep playing attacking or choose to defend at least to maintain stamina. So ya, I personally don't care about the strategy applied like that because anyway, basically the priority for them is to succeed in getting three points, and not prioritize continuing to attack or defend . But indeed, if I consider the opponent Atletico faced in the match was Alaves, then of course we would also expect a victory with a better score. But at least I quite satisfied, because I only bet on Atletico winning, and for me it's still good too.

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October 30, 2023, 03:36:45 PM
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In fact, Real Madrid was really close to losing this match and if they didn't have Gavi Jude Bellingham in their team, they could lose it easily. I think Bellingham just saved his team and without this player, Real Madrid could even lose their place in the league easily.
Regarding Belingham and Gavi, I saw Gavi tackled the ball and this could caused Belingham injured and maybe that's why Belingham wanted this player to ask him to play smarter as you said.



On the other hand, we can argue that if Real had a top striker, Real would have won 4-1. What's the point of talking about what could have been, while Bellingham is already in Real Madrid and doing his job? Barcelona's players could also do their job.
Bellingham is in great form as a striker at Real Madrid. Bellingham's contract with Real Madrid has introduced the English star as a midfielder but the midfielder has become Real Madrid's top goal scorer. Bellingham has been scoring in almost every match and his goals have led Real Madrid to victory. In the last El Clasico match we saw Real Madrid score two goals against Barcelona and both of those goals came from Bellingham.  

It's not fair to say that Real Madrid would have scored more goals if they had another striker because whenever Real Madrid has a main striker, Bellingham might be repositioned and if he is repositioned he won't score as much as he did this time.  .

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October 30, 2023, 03:53:19 PM
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This is indeed Camavinga's biggest strength because it gives Ancelotti options throughout the game without needing to substitute several players at once when an injury or suspension because of a red card happens. The value of such a player can be incredible depending on various game situtations and Camavinga can play many of the defensive roles and he is currently developing his skills to also contribute more to the offensive game when the situation allows. He isn't quite there yet when you compare him to Kroos, for instance, but I think in maybe one or two years he is one of the most reliable and flexible midfielders in Europe. He is only 20 years old and I always found it shocking how calm he is under pressure. His view Cheesy He always looks as if nothing is going on while he is getting attacked.
It was proven in yesterday's El Clasico match and when Camavinga was introduced, Real Madrid's playing rhythm was much different from before he was played, so they managed to beat Barcelona with a score of 1-2. Camavinga has skills in several positions and that is his strength and Kroos' performance was far below Camvinga in that match in my opinion. Jude Bellingham was the player most talked about in the match because in the first half his performance was not very impressive. Ancelotti replaced several players to maximize attacks and dominate the midfield and he managed to choose the right players to stop Barcelona because the introduction of Modric and Camavinga had a quite positive effect.

The potential of Real Madrid's young players is quite good and they must continue to play so they can improve their skills on the field when facing crucial matches. Xavi Hernandez again failed to dominate Ancelotti's strategy even though Gundogan opened up opportunities for them to win the match. Unfortunately, there was no further penetration during the second half, so the number of opportunities that Barcelona got did not produce a good final solution in scoring a goal.

Kroos wasn't bad in my opinion, but he wasn't good or particularly noticeable either. But he is mostly not a player who's contribution to the game is measured in goals or brilliant play all the time. It is more about how he affects the game, how he understands to keep the ball safe and to either speed up or slow down the game. He is a very good feeling for timings and knows when to do what, i.e. he barely makes the wrong decision in specific game situations.

This will be a problem for Barcelona that didn't occur for the last time this season. They have problems scoring goals. Last season their offense also wasn't overwhelming with only 70 goals in 38 games, but their defense was on a whole different level and that is why they won the title. This season they conceded more than half of the goals they conceded last season after 11 games.

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October 30, 2023, 04:08:53 PM
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Despite the fact that Barcelona were beaten by Jude Bellingham's late goal in their game against Real Madrid last weekend, I don't think it should make anyone to think that the club is now underperforming because before the commencement of that game, Barcelona were still unbeaten in the Spanish La Liga.
Real Madrid is one of the best clubs not just in Spain but the whole of Europe and has the capability and capacity to beat any side in the league. So losing against them on Saturday shouldn't make anyone think that they aren't good enough to compete for the league and European titles again.
No one will say that they were bad in this match it's just that when El Clasico if one club loses then this will definitely continue to be highlighted because after all this is a derby so El Clasico defeat even if it doesn't really affect the performance to a great extent but still this can also trigger several conditions such as in terms of the players' mentality and performance which must have a little effect especially when we see the stigma that the standings sometimes depend on El Clasico.
Barcelona are still playing very well up until now but indeed the defeat to Barcelona caused a condition where massive speculation took place.

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In all the matches played in La Liga, the teams managed to score goals against each other. Real betis, the form team of the last weeks, managed to get three points by defeating Osasuna 2-1 at home. I think that Real Betis, playing really well under Pellegrini, can finish in the top six this season.
Vallecano, who had not lost for six weeks, managed to extend their unbeaten run to seven weeks with a 2-2 draw at home to Real Sociedad. Neither team is easily beaten and in this match the two teams failed to beat each other. The hosts should be happy that managed to get a point with a last minute goal.

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Despite the fact that Barcelona were beaten by Jude Bellingham's late goal in their game against Real Madrid last weekend, I don't think it should make anyone to think that the club is now underperforming because before the commencement of that game, Barcelona were still unbeaten in the Spanish La Liga.
Real Madrid is one of the best clubs not just in Spain but the whole of Europe and has the capability and capacity to beat any side in the league. So losing against them on Saturday shouldn't make anyone think that they aren't good enough to compete for the league and European titles again.
I agree with you, defeat against Madrid is not the end of everything for Barcelona, either in La Liga or in the Champions League. Madrid and Barcelona have both suffered one defeat so far, and currently Ancelotti squad is temporarily leading the standings, and there is no guarantee that they will be unbeaten in the future. On the one hand, Xavi had to admit that Ancelotti squad was superior to him, Bellingham was able to make the difference which made them lose three points. But what is clear is that there are still many matches ahead, they must shift their focus to the next match.

On the other hand, the top four in the La Liga standings are occupied by newcomers Girona, with the scenario of beating other weak teams, they managed to collect the same number of points as Madrid, leaving ATM and Barcelona behind. Who would have thought that they have very good statistics, if Madrid is careless then they will lead the top of the standings.

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October 30, 2023, 04:28:12 PM
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In all the matches played in La Liga, the teams managed to score goals against each other. Real betis, the form team of the last weeks, managed to get three points by defeating Osasuna 2-1 at home. I think that Real Betis, playing really well under Pellegrini, can finish in the top six this season.
Vallecano, who had not lost for six weeks, managed to extend their unbeaten run to seven weeks with a 2-2 draw at home to Real Sociedad. Neither team is easily beaten and in this match the two teams failed to beat each other. The hosts should be happy that managed to get a point with a last minute goal.

Not only the match between Villarreal and Granada was played, we will watch it too tonight. We will probably see a goal in this match as well, Granada is one of the teams that conceded the most goals this year and will concede a goal tonight as well, it would be a miracle if they do not concede a goal when they are defending so poorly Cheesy
A good week has passed, the most critical match of the week was of course Real Madrid's victory. They are still on the same points as Girona

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Today there is only one match in the Spanish La Liga. Villarreal will play away to Granada. Both teams have very bad results in the league. and both teams are at the bottom of the league. Granada have only one win this season. On the other hand, Villareal haven't won in their last 5 league games. They are far from their former glory. If Villareal don't want to be relegated this season, they need to beat direct rivals like Granada. That's why I think this is a very important game for Villareal and I think the experienced coach Pacheta will do what is necessary.
Since the two teams are not too strong in this la Liga league season, I guess Granada still stand as a team that will take a good lead from this game base on their results they got this season to secured one win, which they have hope of beating Villarreal to achieve 3 points from this game. I know Villarreal will try their best to perform what they have never performed before since the beginning of this season to make the game difficult for Granada not to score goal easily like the way other strong teams used to scored goals to achieve points from them.

I don't think Villarreal will win this game because, Granada players will surely apply some new tactics that will make the game to turn for their favour to beat Villarreal 1:0 to secured two games won so far, and it will bring hope to their fans to believe that they can still improve in other games.

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October 30, 2023, 05:14:00 PM
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Barcelona definitely has a chance, a big chance to win La Liga title. Because the season has started not very long ago. So Barcelona can actually still be able to perform well and reduce the difference between them and Real Madrid. Barcelona only has one problem that is they are facing a lot of issues with the players being injured. That definitely can be a big problem for Barcelona going forward.

And meanwhile, Real Madrid is performing really well. Even though they are facing some problems because they do not have a very good striker, to be honest, Jude Bellingham is doing the work.
If we talk about the opportunity to win La Liga, of course there is still and there are even several teams that still have the chance to win La Liga now because this season is still very long and anything is still possible to happen.
Yes, it is absolutely correct. I told myself that there is still enough time to win the league. The final decision of La Liga cannot be made in just a few matches. Currently, there are 27 matches remaining for the current teams to win La Liga. And by taking out the point average of 27 matches, it becomes 81 points to win La Liga, and it is not possible that no team loses points in all these matches. Sure, it can be. So it means to say that la liga is not a small league to predict the winner in advance; rather, la liga is a part of the competition of big clubs, and everyone is trying to get ahead of each other to win it. But in the final decision, it is possible who can win and who remains runner-up. Yes, it is possible that Barcelona will win, but the current status of Barcelona indicates that in the absence of key players, the team can show a weak performance. As seen in some matches recently,

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October 30, 2023, 05:14:48 PM
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Barcelona on the other hand are getting weak, last Girona finished at number 10th in the standing, lost 3 times of matches that Barcelona lose but I'm astonished to see how they have point than Barcelona and even have similar number of loss this season with Real Madrid and Barcelona, what is that ingredients they have that we are not seeing. 
The decline in Barcelona's performance cannot be separated from the fact that many of their main players are injured and this team does not have substitute players who have equal quality to maintain the team's performance so that it can become like now, this is quite unfortunate because this makes Barcelona even further behind.
But when it comes to Girona, they really made a big surprise this season and this is beyond what many people expected.
Barcelona was unlucky in El Clasico this time, Xavi was unable to play several of his mainstay players due to injuries that befell them. Barcelona also conceded in the final minutes when Bellingham scored his second goal and put Real Madrid in front over Barcelona. The Barcelona player failed to control Bellingham's movement which left him free to stand in front of Ter Stegen before his touch directed the ball into the goal.
Girona has become the new dark horse team in La Liga, its consistent performance is able to place itself among the teams competing for the title. Girona's performance has been extraordinary this season, but it is not certain that they will be able to maintain this kind of performance until the end of the season.

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October 30, 2023, 05:19:58 PM
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Bellingham is in great form as a striker at Real Madrid. Bellingham's contract with Real Madrid has introduced the English star as a midfielder but the midfielder has become Real Madrid's top goal scorer. Bellingham has been scoring in almost every match and his goals have led Real Madrid to victory. In the last El Clasico match we saw Real Madrid score two goals against Barcelona and both of those goals came from Bellingham.  

It's not fair to say that Real Madrid would have scored more goals if they had another striker because whenever Real Madrid has a main striker, Bellingham might be repositioned and if he is repositioned he won't score as much as he did this time.  .

El Classico was always complicated throughout yesterday's match, so there were a lot of counter tactics used by both teams. It can be seen that Real Madrid's weak points are Vini and Rodrygo who are unable to adapt quickly. Sooner or later, Bellingham will become central to Real Madrid's game, whether Vini and Rodrygo have to be able to attract opposing defenders and open up space for Bellingham.

It is true that Bellingham came to Real Madrid as a midfielder, but considering that there is no Real Madrid striker as dangerous as Benzema, the tactics used by Carlo Ancelotti so far are very useful, because Bellingham, apart from being a midfielder, can also be Real Madrid's shadow striker.

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October 30, 2023, 05:24:02 PM
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Granada - Villarreal is going to be the last game of this week. Villarreal are shown as the favourite side but they have quite high odds for the win like over 2.00. This is absolutely one of the games that a bettor should be very careful about. Because this is a game between two poor performing teams in the La Liga. Both of them haven't won a single game for many weeks.

However Villarreal's away record against Granada since late 2014 has been really impressive. They won most of those games and got draws in the remaining ones. They destroyed Granada by 4-1 here in the previous season. Who knows maybe this psychological advantage would be some help for Villarreal to put an end to this horrible streak going on now.

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October 30, 2023, 05:27:18 PM
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The decline in Barcelona's performance cannot be separated from the fact that many of their main players are injured and this team does not have substitute players who have equal quality to maintain the team's performance so that it can become like now, this is quite unfortunate because this makes Barcelona even further behind.
I agree that the decrease of Barcelona performance is caused by too many injured players. Some of them are the key players like Lewandowski, Kounde, Pedri, Frank de Jong, and Raphinha. However, some of them have recovered now, Lewandowski and Raphinha have played yesterday. But they need time to be back to their best shape. It is not easy to play again with their best after they spend much time for the recovery.

I think, losing Dembele and Ansu Fati also contributes to the decrease of Barcelona performance. I still remember that these players often give the difference when they played in big matches in the previous season. I am a bit confused why Xavi doesn't need them anymore. Xavi may not know that losing them will bring a big impact.


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October 30, 2023, 05:34:40 PM
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I agree that the decrease of Barcelona performance is caused by too many injured players. Some of them are the key players like Lewandowski, Kounde, Pedri, Frank de Jong, and Raphinha. However, some of them have recovered now, Lewandowski and Raphinha have played yesterday. But they need time to be back to their best shape. It is not easy to play again with their best after they spend much time for the recovery.

I think, losing Dembele and Ansu Fati also contributes to the decrease of Barcelona performance. I still remember that these players often give the difference when they played in big matches in the previous season. I am a bit confused why Xavi doesn't need them anymore. Xavi may not know that losing them will bring a big impact.


I agree with you, especially in the case of Dembele and Ansu Fati. Barcelona would have performed better with those guys if they were around. even though I won't easily discredit the efforts of the players that played yesterday match. But Barcelona should have envisaged the big match and could have add more efforts.

It was more of let's start hard and finish softly, yesterday. Like a case of we are in a hurry in the first half but have all the time to relax in the second half. If Barcelona had applied the same efforts they used in the first half, they would have performed more incredibly.

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October 30, 2023, 05:35:05 PM
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In all the matches played in La Liga, the teams managed to score goals against each other. Real betis, the form team of the last weeks, managed to get three points by defeating Osasuna 2-1 at home. I think that Real Betis, playing really well under Pellegrini, can finish in the top six this season.
Vallecano, who had not lost for six weeks, managed to extend their unbeaten run to seven weeks with a 2-2 draw at home to Real Sociedad. Neither team is easily beaten and in this match the two teams failed to beat each other. The hosts should be happy that managed to get a point with a last minute goal.

Not only the match between Villarreal and Granada was played, we will watch it too tonight. We will probably see a goal in this match as well, Granada is one of the teams that conceded the most goals this year and will concede a goal tonight as well, it would be a miracle if they do not concede a goal when they are defending so poorly Cheesy
A good week has passed, the most critical match of the week was of course Real Madrid's victory. They are still on the same points as Girona
I don't know who can win Granada or Villarreal, but I'm sure it will be a good game. But I still favour Villarreal, their attack is better than Granada's. Granada haven't won against Villarreal for almost 10 years. If it happens in today's game, it will be a feat.

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October 30, 2023, 05:43:01 PM
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I don't know who can win Granada or Villarreal, but I'm sure it will be a good game. But I still favour Villarreal, their attack is better than Granada's. Granada haven't won against Villarreal for almost 10 years. If it happens in today's game, it will be a feat.

We cannot compare the history of the match of the two teams in the last 2 years or more because the situation and composition of the players are different, in the last 5 seasons Villarreal has always been in the top 7-8 standings this means they still have a great squad but this season they are not better Villarreal is almost the same as other weak clubs, just look at the history of the match they only won 2 times in 10 matches while Granada is in a worse position but they can take advantage of playing at home. It is not easy to predict who wins, in my opinion this match is more appropriate to end in a draw with a final score of 1-1 for betting options, of course both teams to score YES.

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October 30, 2023, 05:46:22 PM
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The decline in Barcelona's performance cannot be separated from the fact that many of their main players are injured and this team does not have substitute players who have equal quality to maintain the team's performance so that it can become like now, this is quite unfortunate because this makes Barcelona even further behind.
I agree that the decrease of Barcelona performance is caused by too many injured players. Some of them are the key players like Lewandowski, Kounde, Pedri, Frank de Jong, and Raphinha. However, some of them have recovered now, Lewandowski and Raphinha have played yesterday. But they need time to be back to their best shape. It is not easy to play again with their best after they spend much time for the recovery.

I think, losing Dembele and Ansu Fati also contributes to the decrease of Barcelona performance. I still remember that these players often give the difference when they played in big matches in the previous season. I am a bit confused why Xavi doesn't need them anymore. Xavi may not know that losing them will bring a big impact.


I think this El Clasico is not ideal considering that many players in Xavi squad are injured, and those who have just recovered are not yet fully 100% fit. On the other hand, Xavi took quite a big risk when determining the starting XI yesterday, which turned out to be true because he had to admit the greatness of the strategy implemented by Ancelotti. Dembele and Ansu Fati were released because Xavi wanted several players like Felix and Cancelo and to make room for young players like Yamal.

Regardless from this defeat, Barcelona also still has a chance to retain the La Liga trophy, the difference in points is not too big and it is still reasonable to catch up in the following weeks. On the other hand, Madrid is in top form at the moment, so it's not easy to beat them, especially with a player like Bellingham.

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October 30, 2023, 05:47:11 PM
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I agree that the decrease of Barcelona performance is caused by too many injured players. Some of them are the key players like Lewandowski, Kounde, Pedri, Frank de Jong, and Raphinha. However, some of them have recovered now, Lewandowski and Raphinha have played yesterday. But they need time to be back to their best shape. It is not easy to play again with their best after they spend much time for the recovery.

I think, losing Dembele and Ansu Fati also contributes to the decrease of Barcelona performance. I still remember that these players often give the difference when they played in big matches in the previous season. I am a bit confused why Xavi doesn't need them anymore. Xavi may not know that losing them will bring a big impact.


I agree with you, especially in the case of Dembele and Ansu Fati. Barcelona would have performed better with those guys if they were around. even though I won't easily discredit the efforts of the players that played yesterday match. But Barcelona should have envisaged the big match and could have add more efforts.

It was more of let's start hard and finish softly, yesterday. Like a case of we are in a hurry in the first half but have all the time to relax in the second half. If Barcelona had applied the same efforts they used in the first half, they would have performed more incredibly.
After Ousmane Dembele was permanently sold to Paris Saint Germaine in the summer, I was very surprised to see Barcelona allow Ansu Fati to join Brighton and Hove Albion on loan even when they don't have too much number of strikers.
Ferran Torres hasn't impressed since the start of the season and it's really affecting Barcelona's performance in their matches. Robert Lewandowski who was injured is currently back to action and hopefully, his return will improve the club's performance in their next upcoming matches.

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