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April 15, 2014, 04:21:30 PM
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Have you already heard that people in Donetsk region have stopped a tank?

That god that the tank driver was a Ukrainian soldier. If it was a right sector Nazi, then he would have just run over the civilians.
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April 15, 2014, 04:23:07 PM
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Civilians have formed a human shield in Sloviansk. The Ukrainian army finding that the situation is not as easy as they expected earlier.
Have you already heard that people in Donetsk region have stopped a tank?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDcQTBYY4kE

Woah that T-64 is falling appart, it barely moves.
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April 15, 2014, 05:20:36 PM
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Videos related to Kramotorsk:
http://yandex.ru/video/search?text=%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA

Also, two interesting bits of news to read side by side:
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Latvia suspends broadcasting of Russia’s Rossiya RTR TV

Latvia has suspended broadcasting Russia’s Rossiya RTR television channel for three months, the BBC said. An “administration process” was reportedly launched against the First Baltic Channel, and Rossiya 24 TV channel was labeled as “creating problems” over their coverage of the events in Ukraine. Latvian, Lithuanian and Estonian public broadcasters are considering a plan to set up a new Russian-language TV channel. Chairman of the Russian Presidential Human Rights Council Mikhail Fedotov had said the ban on Russian TV channels in Latvia and Lithuania would violate the rights of television audience.

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Some providers in eastern Ukraine resume broadcasting Russian channels

A number of providers in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine have resumed broadcasting Russian TV channels, despite a ban imposed by a Kiev court, Interfax reported. In the Donetsk Region, 12 out of 118 providers resumed broadcasting, and 40 out of 57 providers reportedly did the same in the Lugansk Region. The ban was imposed on March 25.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 15, 2014, 08:16:08 PM
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April 15, 2014, 08:19:25 PM
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Road Kramatorsk-Slavyansk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tJrYytZ6Zc


Krasnoarmeysk

Naz. Gvardiya and local citizens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EmcArAcgJc





Mangush

Ukrainian helicopters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoBarfLN-tA




Donbass defenders radio

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bg-studio1




Ukrainian troops ready to be send in Donbass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fz8VP5XF0M





Donetsk Region, people in the street

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqMdElRPLis



Zaporozhye

Military rebel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y9FdSpC3XA



Izyum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-pONziV0vE





Donetsk Region

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5dCvORdwzA



SBU Lugansk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYz_XIwbGJY




Kramatorsk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qXKDEElo0g





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April 15, 2014, 08:35:59 PM
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Oi, from 250 mobilised and stationed in the region, 40 are with with pneumonia after being dislocated in awful conditions. Army is protesting.

Quite a lot of interesting info here. Status is all quiet, with a new block post being mobilised in Kramatorsk.

People also coordinate public order in the region, reporting anyone disorderly or drunk.

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April 15, 2014, 08:48:38 PM
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President of South-Est Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBnOSBdrUFA

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April 15, 2014, 08:53:06 PM
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Minister of Foreign Affairs of Donetsk Republic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV4WHyk6a4M

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April 15, 2014, 09:06:17 PM
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Great idea from the guys:

- Will they open criminal cases against all citizens of Donbass?
- Let them. They can also put barbed wire around out region, if they like, and dig a trench.
- Nice idea. We'd be glad is they separated us from the rest of Ukraine.

Hear on the channel:
20 APC accompanied by a French journalist Aljona Guimola (?) is on the way to Slavjansk.
Avakov reported on internal Ukrainian TV channels that "liberation" of the airport was conducted without anyone being killed.

Makeevka (shooting heard)

The guys wonder how to contact Russian mass media, saying that they feel very isolated information-wise. New not showing what is happening.

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
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April 15, 2014, 09:10:45 PM
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> Janakievo. Military (?) started storming. Women on block post. Requesting backups. Requesting mass media coverage.

Listening to that radio, the situation there is much more serious than painted by either Western (not painted at all) or Russian media.
There are several reports of mobile networs/stations being shut down and people unable to contact some of the regions.
And above all they feel abandoned information-wise, with no way of contacting the big world and explaining the situation, showing it.


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April 15, 2014, 09:33:10 PM
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http://iskatel-2014.livejournal.com/

First Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense of Ukraine, Lieutenant-General Krutov, is arrested by local people near Kramatorsk. He was commanding the operation which had as target to take control of the airport.

(Some speculate that he in effect surrendered, as he "went out to the people")


(And some dark humour: "To Merkel: Stop teasing Russia. How many times do they have to take your Berlin? Every 100 years? 1760, check. 1813, check. 1945, check. 20?? It's getting tedious.")  Grin

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“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 15, 2014, 09:36:17 PM
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Requesting mass media coverage.

They need PR work.
TV need footage and news. No news  - no coverage.

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April 15, 2014, 10:45:46 PM
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From: www.ustream.tv/channel/bg-studio1

Turchinov is the only one who is on the public radar now (a talking head for CIA) in Ukraine.
Timoshenko and Yatsenjuk appeared this morning reading from paper orders that "sheer force" must be used and then disappeared. They haven't voiced anything of their own lately.
Klichko, and the rest have already disappeared from public view.

People ponder if Greystone is ultimately there to silence Timoshenko and co once they become expandable.
Yatsenjuk is on the rand of paranoia and had mercenary bodyguards

The guys are patrolling the sky as well Smiley
A319 Flew out of Horvatia with no destination identifiers. It reached the middle of Black Sea and did a sharp turn towards Ukraine, overflying over Dnepropetrovsk right now.

Checking Planefinder, I see that they talk about THY5JM from Turkish Airlines
It's heading over Harkov right now.

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April 15, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
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Oкoпы им нaдo pыть.

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April 16, 2014, 01:33:16 AM
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Protesters still holding on despite heavy military mobilization by Ukraine. Total chaos in Lugansk and Donetsk oblasts.

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Roman Sokolenko, from the People's Militia of Donbass, told RT that transport was not being allowed out of the eastern city while “tanks were approaching.” He said protesters were manning barricades in preparation for the possible storm. Activists were in good spirits and “ready to protect their land.”
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April 16, 2014, 01:39:06 AM
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IMO Angela Merkel is the least of the worries for Putin. It is pretty clear to me that Germans aren't very happy to confront Russia through the sanctions, but they are under the huge pressure coming from the other side of the Atlantic. Americans slapped them into the face once again, showing them Germans that they are economical giant but geopolitical and military midget whose word doesn't mean shit. I just wonder for how long Germany and EU are going to tolerate this.
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April 16, 2014, 02:28:35 AM
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IMO Angela Merkel is the least of the worries for Putin. It is pretty clear to me that Germans aren't very happy to confront Russia through the sanctions, but they are under the huge pressure coming from the other side of the Atlantic. Americans slapped them into the face once again, showing them Germans that they are economical giant but geopolitical and military midget whose word doesn't mean shit. I just wonder for how long Germany and EU are going to tolerate this.

Any economic or military pressure stop Russian Federation from immediate liberation of Donbass from Ukrainian troops, if they start to kill.

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April 16, 2014, 03:35:55 AM
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It is pretty clear to me that Germans aren't very happy to confront Russia through the sanctions, but they are under the huge pressure coming from the other side of the Atlantic.

Germans goods are hugely popular in Russia, and similarly, German manufacturers see Russia as one of their main markets. On the other hand, most of the Russian exports to Germany are in the form of gas and oil, which will not be affected by sanctions. So it will be the Germans who will lose out in the case of any sanctions. Another point is that there is a very large Russian immigrant community in Germany (3.5 million), which is very powerful electorally.
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April 16, 2014, 03:48:11 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COI7gmz7ebs

Tanks blocked by local residents.

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