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Yeah, arms shipments went according to plan. Of course, you can't just send the weapons without applying an appropriate security measures, so you have to send some soldiers as couriers along with it. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Lol... remember that the protesters immediately freed the surrendered Ukrainian soldiers, without even seizing their machine guns, grenades and other small arms. They took only the APCs. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 16, 2014, 03:39:34 PM |
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Yeah, arms shipments went according to plan. Of course, you can't just send the weapons without applying an appropriate security measures, so you have to send some soldiers as couriers along with it. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Lol... remember that the protesters immediately freed the surrendered Ukrainian soldiers, without even seizing their machine guns, grenades and other small arms. They took only the APCs. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) "Thanks for the quick delivery!" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 16, 2014, 04:23:58 PM |
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MOCКBA, 16 aпp — PИA Hoвocти. Укpaинcкиe CMИ пpизнaли в мyжчинe в кaмyфляжe, пpeдcтaвившeмcя пoдпoлкoвникoм poccийcкoй apмии пocлe зaxвaтa cтopoнникaми фeдepaлизaции гopoдcкoгo oтдeлa милиции в Гopлoвкe (Дoнeцкaя oблacть), мecтнoгo житeля Игopя Бeзлepa.
Кaк cooбщaeт aгeнтcтвo УHИAH co ccылкoй нa дoнeцкий пopтaл "OcтpoB", paнee лжeпoдпoлкoвник poccийcкoй apмии Игopь Бeзлep "вoзглaвлял в Гopлoвкe кoммyнaльнoe пpeдпpиятиe pитyaльныx ycлyг "Пpocтop", из кoтopoгo был yвoлeн в 2012 гoдy зa xищeниe 38 oгpaд и пaмятникoв, a тaкжe зa вымoгaтeльcтвo дeнeг y пoжилыx людeй зa мecтo нa клaдбищe".
Meждy тeм интepнeт-пopтaл "УPA-Инфopм" cooбщaeт, чтo Бeзлep дeйcтвитeльнo являeтcя пoдпoлкoвникoм в oтcтaвкe, нo тoлькo нe poccийcкoгo, a yкpaинcкoгo cпeцнaзa. Пo дaнным издaния, пocлe paбoты в pитyaльнoм пpeдпpиятии "Пpocтop" Бeзлep paбoтaл нaчaльникoм cлyжбы бeзoпacнocти кaндидaтa в нapoдныe дeпyтaты Укpaины Apтypa Гepacимoвa, кoтopый бaллoтиpoвaлcя пo мaжopитopaнoмy oкpyгy в Гopлoвкe, oднaкo тoт тaк и нe пpoшeл в Bepxoвнyю paдy Укpaины.
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April 16, 2014, 04:28:20 PM |
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The Russian flags on Ukrainian Armored Personnel Carriers (APCs) were a stratagem, Kiev says. According to the acting head of the Batkivshchina Party, Sergey Sobolev, the Ukrainian military raised Russian flags on their vehicles on purpose, to fool the Donetsk region’s self-defense squads and thus be able to get into areas under the control of protesters.
“Those were our military units using guerilla methods of intervention,” Sobolev said, citing the acting Defense Minister. “Very soon, in two to three hours this maneuver is going to be disclosed and you’ll understand that it was actually a breakthrough, which our units thus carried out.” Ok this is getting really ridiculous now. Why the hell would anyone want to publish something which -if it was true- should be kept as top secret?
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April 16, 2014, 04:34:11 PM |
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Ok this is getting really ridiculous now. Why the hell would anyone want to publish something which -if it was true- should be kept as top secret?
A pathetic attempt at hiding the frustration. If I remember correctly, some 300 soldiers surrendered in total. The protesters took away the APCs and the truck. The soldiers were allowed to unload the ammunition and keep their small arms with them. The surrendered soldiers were given food, and then allowed to go back to their native towns and villages.
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April 16, 2014, 04:38:02 PM |
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@Paya: My thoughts too. They in Kiev are trying to save face by pushing it further into the mud. 247crypto post: Ukrainian Mass media report that between 3 and 40 APCs have broken out of encircling in Kramatorsk and are fleeing, pursued by protesters in cards and quad-bikes. Really?! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) APC being pursued by bikes?! and the spread of between 3 and 40? Another way of saying "we don't know how many if any at all" ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 16, 2014, 04:38:13 PM |
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and then allowed to go back to their native towns and villages.
on "Ukrainian" side they will captured.
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April 16, 2014, 04:45:44 PM |
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This one is a bit scary. A report by Right Sector guy from the "Eastern Front", blaming Turchinov in not conducting an operation, but on the contrary pushing for surrender among the officers. Complains that the natonalists get pushed around the most, that the officers are complete idiots and have no battle experience, unlike their own guys. Officers don't know how to take strategic points. Complains that the weapons they got are old and in bad condition, completely unlike those they got from Chechens and Georgians in Caucasus. Generals stole all resources for their summer houses. And finally that part of the officers are for the "Moscovites", but that they'll deal with them during battle (backstabbing?).
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 16, 2014, 04:54:43 PM |
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I sometimes think that "Tsar Bomba" would be extremely useful now. Yep, it's terrible thought but sometimes it seems that it's a great solution of Jarosh & Tyagnibok problem... Just drop it on nazis and world will become peaceful place.
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April 16, 2014, 05:01:55 PM |
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Don't forget peaceful and slightly glowing place. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 16, 2014, 05:07:55 PM |
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Another huge set back for the Kiev regime. More than 100 Ukrainian soldiers currently being disarmed near Kramatorsk. Also, 16 APCs, 500+ UKR soldiers sieged in Pcholkino near Kramatorsk by 1500 strong mob. Exits blocked. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 16, 2014, 05:48:12 PM |
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Ukrainians should kick out US/NATO foreigners and everyone go home and take care of ur family and neighbors , simple fix.
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testing ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 16, 2014, 07:09:29 PM |
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Reported and film crew of three from TV channel "Russia" got detained by military near Levkovka, not far from Harkov without any explanations. The last SMS from them was "We are detained" sent 18:37, after which their mobile phones went dead: http://itar-tass.com/obschestvo/1126896?utm_medium=rss20Their names are: Evgenij Reshetnev - special reporter Sergej Truskov - camera operator Vadim Klivanov - technical engineer Someone was stupid to pull the trigger: 19:03 GMT:
Three people were injured after Ukrainian troops heading for Kramatorsk airfield in armored vehicles fired at a car attempting to block their way, RIA Novosti reports citing anti-government activists.
The incident took place near the village of Pchyolkino, south of Kramatorsk. The car was placed in the way of a convoy of an unknown number of vehicles, which then continued driving towards the airfield.
According to the activists, two people received leg injuries and a third one was shot in the shoulder. The wounded activists sought medical help. http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 16, 2014, 07:29:42 PM |
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Putin will be in Donetsk in less than 2 weeks.
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April 16, 2014, 07:37:32 PM |
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Putin will be in Donetsk in less than 2 weeks.
Not improbable. From what I heard on Donetsk open comm channel yesterday, people were wondering why there still was no help from Russia.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 16, 2014, 07:52:03 PM |
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I think that Yanukovych have much more chances to become a version of happy end. Returns to the office, signs a decree on restoration of the constitutional order and performing a referendum. Then, two hours later voluntarily resigns and a legitimate transitional government will be formed.
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April 16, 2014, 08:44:39 PM |
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There is a storm of a military base in Donetsk by unknown persons. Both sides shoot into the air, while attackers yank at the gates and throw molotov cocktails. http://ria.ru/world/20140416/1004219328.htmlI wonder if this is the provocation that there was talk about yesterday, where a group from Right Sector were to stage an attack against a military installation? More blood: Four anti-govt protesters shot while rallying near Ukrainian military base - reportshttp://rt.com/news/mariupol-base-shooting-ukraine-008/
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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