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April 16, 2014, 10:37:42 PM |
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Russians visited Bandera's grave in Germany, telling him that Crimea is back  Note that there is no vandalism, only harsh words. |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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Balthazar
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April 16, 2014, 10:44:01 PM |
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I think that Yanukovych have much more chances to become a version of happy end. Returns to the office, signs a decree on restoration of the constitutional order and performing a referendum. Then, two hours later voluntarily resigns and a legitimate transitional government will be formed.
There are rumors that Yanukovich will back into Ukraine at 20 April. This date was announced by polish FM related sources, and confirmed by Aksyonov. |
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Nemo1024
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April 16, 2014, 10:57:07 PM |
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I think that Yanukovych have much more chances to become a version of happy end. Returns to the office, signs a decree on restoration of the constitutional order and performing a referendum. Then, two hours later voluntarily resigns and a legitimate transitional government will be formed.
There are rumors that Yanukovich will back into Ukraine at 20 April. This date was announced by polish FM related sources, and confirmed by Aksyonov. I also read it on Russian channels, but consider the rumour unfounded, until the situation is on the way to improvement. |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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Paya
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April 17, 2014, 02:36:32 AM |
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Night gun battle reported in Mariupol. Apparently, shits hit the fan when federalists tried to enter police (or army) base to ask men stationed there to abandon it, which they refused. It is unclear what happened afterwards but shooting can be heard all over the place. RT mentiones one dead and twelve injured among the locals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFIM5KhbOl0 |
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bryant.coleman
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April 17, 2014, 02:40:16 AM |
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Night gun battle reported in Mariupol. Apparently, shits hit the fan when federalists tried to enter police (or army) base to ask men stationed there to abandon it, which they refused. It is unclear what happened afterwards but shooting can be heard all over the place. RT mentiones one dead and twelve injured among the locals.
http://rt.com/news/mariupol-base-shooting-ukraine-008/“Twelve people were injured. One of the attackers died,” Mariupol’s website stated quoting law enforcement officials. A group of several dozen protesters arrived at the base, located in the turbulent Donetsk region, on Wednesday evening. They called on the troops to abandon the base, but the soldiers didn't listen, the demonstrators said. Instead, the troops opened fire at the protesters, injuring at least four people. One of them took a bullet in his chest and is in serious condition, according to protesters. |
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supernovax
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April 17, 2014, 03:25:05 AM |
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Which side is winning now?
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April 17, 2014, 04:35:37 AM |
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Which side is winning now?
People (local activists) disarm Ukrainian troops. |
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niothor
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April 17, 2014, 04:39:24 AM |
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Which side is winning now?
In a war the is no winning side. It's just a side that has less casualties than the other. From my point of view they could all just end this and go to their home and have a drink. There are better thinks to do in Ukraine and more urgent than this. |
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Balthazar
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April 17, 2014, 05:05:54 AM |
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Map of Freedom:  I bet that remaining cities will be seized before 9 May |
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niothor
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April 17, 2014, 05:09:02 AM |
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Map of Freedom: I bet that remaining cities will be seized before 9 May Freedom? Freedom from the current government and ending in the trap of another ! There were at least 20 countries or regions that shouted "freeedom"... and look where they are now . I bet on the 9th of May 2015 , their situation will be the same ( living standard i mean). |
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Balthazar
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April 17, 2014, 05:16:18 AM |
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Freedom?
Freedom from the current government and ending in the trap of another !
That's not quite right. There is no government, no constitutional order in the Ukraine. So-called government allows itself to use an army against civil people... So, their removal definitely will be a step to freedom. |
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bryant.coleman
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April 17, 2014, 05:29:33 AM |
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I bet on the 9th of May 2015 , their situation will be the same ( living standard i mean).
If they join Russia, then their living standards would definitely change for the better. Pensions and salaries will increase by many times, and they will qualify for generous welfare benefits such as the maternity capital. |
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Balthazar
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April 17, 2014, 06:44:51 AM |
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I bet on the 9th of May 2015 , their situation will be the same ( living standard i mean).
If they join Russia, then their living standards would definitely change for the better. Pensions and salaries will increase by many times, and they will qualify for generous welfare benefits such as the maternity capital. It's unlikely that they will be joined. RF needs a reliable buffer state on the borders, to separate from NATO shills. |
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April 17, 2014, 06:50:25 AM |
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you meen this sort of better life?  |
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wizby
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April 17, 2014, 06:52:17 AM |
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Many have already forgotten why people protested in Maidan. Now, the Russian Government – Vladimir Putin and his cronies – is hiding Victor Yanukovych and other contributors responsible for murdering people in Maidan, inadequate crackdown on protesters, kidnappings, organized assassinations, etc. The main reason for protests was feeling of injustice – everyone understood that election was doctored, and the corruption in governmental agencies was incredibly high. The golden bread of Yanukovych, and his villa, full of stolen goods revealed everything. Still, there are even more telling facts. For example, the stamps of all electoral commissions, which were found in one of the headquarters of the Regions party at the end of February. Currently, the members of the Regions party are rearing their heads in Doneck, supporting the activities of Russian saboteurs and collaborators. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin claims that Victor Yanukovych is the legitimate president of Ukraine. Actually, he never was a legitimately elected president. He was a fraud, who came to power illegally by making a parody of election. A fraud, who sold himself to Russia, which now attacked Ukraine. A thief and a murderer, who wants to trigger a civil war in Ukraine.   |
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