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May 04, 2014, 02:41:48 PM
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Bloggers on both sides agree pro-Russian group working w/ police started #Odessa violence 1/2 http://brenik.livejournal.com/3735031.html  http://ontimer.livejournal.com/27218.html




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May 04, 2014, 02:43:58 PM
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^ The first time in my life I see "law enforcers" protecting foreign terrorists coming from Russia and Molodova against citizens of their country... Paid with ukrainians money to protect terrorists who shot at them... Unbelievable Shocked

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May 04, 2014, 02:48:42 PM
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Defense Minister Roberta Pinotti: #Italy is ready to send peacekeepers to #Ukraine to ensure stability in the country http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2014/05/04/news/ucraina_pinotti_litalia_non_pu_stare_a_guardare_disposti_a_inviare_una_forza_di_pace-85209358/?ref=search

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May 04, 2014, 02:57:24 PM
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Oligarch Renat Akhmetov's Metalurgic factory seized by separatists in the city of Enakievo. Russian flag hosted over the factory. Akhmetov had recently shifted his loyalty to the Kiev thugs.

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May 04, 2014, 03:58:00 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/world/europe/behind-the-masks-in-ukraine-many-faces-of-rebellion.html?hp&_r=2

Behind the Masks in Ukraine, Many Faces of Rebellion

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The 119 fighters he said he leads, who appear to range in age from their 20s to their 50s, all speak of prior service in Soviet or Ukrainian infantry, airborne, special forces or air-defense units. One, Kostya, served in the post-Soviet Russian Army, where he was a paratrooper. But he too claimed Ukrainian citizenship, which he said he received two years ago after moving to the Donetsk region in 1997 to live near his mother.
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May 04, 2014, 04:09:08 PM
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@Sam-Os  lol, you say that the asian KGB criminal system is more efficient? back to CCCP 2.0 ura ura na Gulags? what you smoking? Cheesy

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May 04, 2014, 04:39:06 PM
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Yatsenjuk seems to be using the tried method of blaming the special forces for all that is wrong - he blames them for not stopping the violence in Odessa:
http://www.aif.ru/society/safety/1161930


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May 04, 2014, 04:50:24 PM
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She says - I'm going to burn people alive and I'm happy:

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May 04, 2014, 04:51:14 PM
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"No flowers under the tanks will not throw. Here is a total partisan war" - have been warned?

Apкaдий Бaбчeнкz

Пo пoвoдy Oдeccы мoгy cкaзaть тoлькo oднo.
Boopyжeнныe люди пpишли зa cпинaми мeнтoв, жeлaя бoйни и тpyпoв?
Boopyжeнныe люди пoлyчили бoйню и тpyпы.
Oни дyмaли, чтo этo бyдyт нe иx тpyпы?
Heт. Этo бyдyт и иx тpyпы тoжe.
Bceм pyccким "пaтpиoтaм", opyщим тeпepь пpo фaшиcтoв и жeлaющим "зaкaтaть xoxлoв в acфaльт" - вы дyмaeтe, нe бyдeт и вaшиx тpyпoв?
Heт. Бyдyт и вaши тpyпы. Ecли нaчнeтcя пo-нacтoящeмy - бeз вaшиx тpyпoв нe oбoйдeтcя. Hикaк. Пoвepьтe.
Bы ждaли, чтo бyдeт кaк-тo пo-дpyгoмy? Чтo дocтaтoчнo пoбpызгaть иcтepичными cлюнями в мoнитop, и жидoбaндepoвцы caмoзaкaтaютcя в acфaльт и aннигилиpyютcя? Чтo иx мoжнo пoxищaть, yбивaть, избивaть, кидaть гpaнaтy в блoк-пocт, a oни в oтвeт бyдyт в дecны цeлoвaть?
Heт. Oни бyдyт coпpoтивлятьcя.
Ecли людeй нaчaть yбивaть - oни бyдyт yбивaть в oтвeт.
Ктo бы мoг пoдyмaть, дa?
"Hиктo цвeты пoд гyceницы кидaть нe бyдeт. Здecь бyдeт тoтaльнaя пapтизaнcкaя вoйнa" - вac жe пpeдyпpeждaли?
Bac жe пpeдyпpeждaли, пpaвдa?
Чтo пoceяли, тo и пoжaли.
Пo-дpyгoмy нe бывaeт.
Бyдeт имeннo тaк.

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May 04, 2014, 05:05:40 PM
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A disgusting and vile tweet from journalist Howard Amos of The Guardian.

https://twitter.com/howardamos/status/462924741733789696/photo/1



No respect for the dead. Vile scum.
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May 04, 2014, 05:09:04 PM
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She says - I'm going to burn people alive and I'm happy:


That's not quite correct. Actually she said "They will be responsible for everything [burning the people], I'm just a girl. I'll be happy.".

I hope these "girls" will face severe troubles soon.
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May 04, 2014, 05:14:16 PM
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I hope these "girls" will face severe troubles soon.

Sorry for that... mechanical translation sucks.

A partial list of the victims of the Odessa massacre has been released:

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May 04, 2014, 05:22:33 PM
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Putin, there is an exact copy of Tsar bomba in the museum... Maybe it's time to drop it on Lviv?
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May 04, 2014, 05:26:21 PM
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Washington responsible for fascist massacre in Odessa

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/05/03/ukra-m03.html

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According to eye-witnesses, those who jumped from the burning building and survived were surrounded and beaten by thugs from the neo-Nazi Right Sector. Video footage shows bloodied and wounded survivors being attacked. The atrocity underscores both the brutal character of the right-wing government installed in Kiev by the Western powers and the encouragement by the US and its allies of a bloody crackdown by the regime to suppress popular opposition, centered in the mainly Russian-speaking south and east of Ukraine.
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May 04, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
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Dmitry Tymchuk: About the events in southern Ukraine of 2nd-4th of May

About the events in southern Ukraine of 2nd-4th of May

Scenario for the”South” –  Russian terrorist’s actions go according to plan of Moscow. As foreseen, the situation in Odessa completely destabilized .

The tragic events in Odessa, provoked by pro-Russian extremists were also made possible because of the position and actions of the Odessa Police .

The fact is that for many weeks, local pro-Russian forces regularly performed provocations against patriotic part of the population. Local law enforcement officers in the best cases showed a complete disability to act, in the worst – actively supported the pro-Russian extremists.



Events of May the 2nd began with the provocations of pro-Russian separatists with attacks against unarmed Ukrainian activists killing civilians and all the subsequent events were caused by these murders.

Odessa police in these conditions behaved outrageously and unacceptably. We have evidence that in the period of preparations for pro-Russian provocations on May the 2nd, local law enforcement agencies had arrested a group of pro-russian extremists. By order of the police chief of the city , they were immediately released.

During clashes Odessa police provided security for pro-Russian terrorists who were able to freely shoot Ukrainian patriots from behind the policemen.

Only after this bloodshed hosted by separatists with the support of the police began, patriotic citizens moved into action, driving pro-Russian separatists into the House of Trade Unions where they barricaded themselves and continued shooting at unarmed citizens.

We hope that the investigation will establish exactly what happened in the House of Trade Unions and what was the cause of the fire which killed many people. But we have every reason to believe that responsibility for this tragedy lies entirely on those who originally initiated the event on May the 2nd and those who instead of performing their duties as law enforcement officers directly supported and assisted criminals.

At the same time the events of May the 4 when the prosecutor’s office of Odessa region ordered to release the detained initiators of the bloody events saying that it was done “at the request of the protesters”. This clearly indicates that the law enforcement officers of Odessa are not going to stop their criminal activities of supporting and aiding terrorists.

We have to emphasize the damaging role of general prosecutor of Ukraine, who has personally ordered the detained criminals to be left in Odessa instead of being urgently escorted to Kyiv.

We want to remind the Ukrainian authorities that these events are only a “warm-up” for pro-Russian terrorists before the 9th of May. If you do not take immediate action today (including personal responsibility and leadership of law enforcement and prosecutors of Odessa region) – the tragic events of the last few days will repeat on a larger scale and not only in Odessa.

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Last edit: May 04, 2014, 06:40:10 PM by Nemo1024
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A partial list of the victims of the Odessa massacre has been released:



The cause of death is telling:

1. Birjukov Andrej, 1978 - shot
2. Brozhevskij ANdrej, 1987 - fell from upper floors
3. Buhal Victor, 1956 - fell from upper floors
4. Varenkina Anna, 1955 - suffocated by smoke
5. Egorskij Nikolaj, 1976 - shot
6. Zhul'kov Aleksandr, 1968 - shot
7. Ivanov Igor, 1987 - shot
8. Kalin Anatolij, 1976 - fell from upper floors
9. Markin Vjacheslav, 1969 (deputy of the regional council) - died in hospital from wounds
10. Mishin Sregej, 1986 - burnt to death
11. Negaturov Vadim, 1959 (Odessa poet, http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1726139/) - burnt to death
12. Nikitinko Maksim, 1982 - fell from upper floors
13. Petrov Gennadij, 1985 - shot
14. Sadovnichij Aleksander, 1954 - burnt to death



Donetsk forms the first division of the Republican Army:
http://www.aif.ru/society/safety/1162013

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May 04, 2014, 06:43:59 PM
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Armed neo-Nazis belonging to the Right Sector heading towards the Odessa police station, where there are Pro-Russia groups. Neo-Nazis are armed with rifles, Molotov cocktails and bats.
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May 04, 2014, 06:51:08 PM
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Pagan, How can you support  scums?
Current Ukrainian government is betrayers and scum. The government is killing its own citizens. They lie that southeastern people are separatists.
This is their requirements:
Is it separatism?


Public Republic of Donetsk
Formed in 1917. Re-created in 2014.

Independence (autonomy) means:
1. All taxes remain in the republic.
2. Two official languages - medical instructions, official documents, films must be translated to Russian. The language of education is electable at school start.
3. Possibility to transmit Russian TV channels in the region.
4. Complete ban of hero-worship of Bandera, Shushevich and other nationalists, as they were criminals who killed local population.
5. Stop of persecution on political grouns.
6. Ban on sect ideology, ban on nationalist parties and groups.
7. Giving the citizens possibility of control of the monetary flow, earned by the citizens of Donbass.
8. Resume trade with Russia to revive industry and machine-building.
9. Possibility to self elect government of the region.

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May 04, 2014, 06:53:27 PM
Last edit: May 04, 2014, 07:31:01 PM by Nemo1024
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Yatsenjuk ordered the prosecutor general to find the "Russian trace" in the Odessa massacre:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/04/n_6128249.shtml
According to Yatsenjik, the attack in Odessa was done on Russia's orders.

The best way to find "the trace" is to pronounce Yatsenjuk and Biden as Russian agents.

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May 04, 2014, 06:58:51 PM
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Live stream of pro-Kiev rally in Odessa. Crowd is really violent:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/new-odessa

Meanwhile, Ivan Katerinchuk (the newly appointed pro-Right Sector regional police chief) is nowhere to be seen.
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