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May 10, 2014, 09:17:40 PM
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West supports nazis in Ukraine

http://www.dailypaul.com/318561/newland-reluctantly-admits-there-were-neo-nazis-fighting-to-overthrow-the-govt-of-ukraine
http://www.globalresearch.ca/there-are-no-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-and-the-obama-administration-does-not-support-fascists/5370269
http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-meets-oleh-tyahnybok-in-ukraine-2013-12
http://www.salon.com/2014/02/25/is_the_us_backing_neo_nazis_in_ukraine_partner/
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/03/18/yes_there_are_bad_guys_in_the_ukrainian_government
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Quoting for my own use be be able to easily find these links later.



Block posts near Lugansk shot at from mine throwers:
http://ria.ru/world/20140510/1007289110.html

The number of official confirmed dead in Mariupol ofn the 9th of May is 9 people, with 42 wounded:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/10/n_6142801.shtml

A large article about the upcoming referendum:
http://ria.ru/world/20140511/1007297454.html

And an icing on the cake, Poroshenko said that Ukraine lacks the necessary condition to become a NATO member:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/10/n_6142673.shtml

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 10, 2014, 10:09:31 PM
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Crimean Tatars climb Chatir Mountain in #Crimea today with the UKR flag/ Glory to Heros! |EMPR Photo #Ukraine


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May 10, 2014, 10:11:52 PM
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Video of battle between #Ukrainian and pro-#Kremlin nazis forces near #Sloviansk #Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iQS_-rbhC4

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May 10, 2014, 10:22:12 PM
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Insurgents kidnapped parents of Svoboda activist in Makeevka, #Donetsk region. Demand that he comes to Donetsk &surrenders. unian |EMPR

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#NATO warns #ruSSia from aggression in #Moldova http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/05/10/7024938/ … | EMPR News #terrorism

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Gunshots, explosions near Ukraine's Slavyansk as checkpoint attacked
http://rt.com/news/158132-slavyansk-fire-shooting-referendum/

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A checkpoint of the self-defense forces in Slavyansk has come under heavy gun and mortar fire, with explosions heard from the city. The attack, which was reportedly launched from a TV tower, comes hours before a regional referendum is due to begin.

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"They used mortars to shoot at us and fired mine shells," an anti-government activist told RIA Novosti. This is not the first time Andreevka comes under fire.

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“Yes, there is gunfire on the outskirts of the city, apparently heavy weapons. There are casualties on our side,” Slavyansk self-defense spokeswoman, Stella Khorosheva, told RT.




Odessa massacre 9 days on: Dozens still missing, residents commemorate the dead
http://rt.com/news/158124-odessa-fire-memorial-radicals/

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Residents of Odessa, Ukraine have gathered for a memorial service to commemorate the victims of the May 2 bloodshed who died in a fire in the city’s House of Trade Unions which was set ablaze by pro-Kiev radicals.

Several hundred people turned up Saturday on Kulikovo Pole Square in central Odessa – the site of the tragedy that shocked the entire international community. The participants of the memorial service brought flowers, candles and lit icon-lamps.



E. Ukraine’s regions gear up for independence referendums
http://rt.com/news/158096-ukraine-referendum-donetsk-lugansk/

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Voters in the two south-eastern regions will be asked if they “support the Act of state self-rule” of the Donetsk People's Republic or Lugansk People's Republic respectively.

Organizers of the Donetsk referendum say they have printed over 3 million ballot papers and set up over 1,500 local election commissions. All in all, they have spent just about 20,000 hryvnas (US$ 2,000) preparing for the vote in Ukraine’s industrial region, the heart of the country’s coal-mining.

“We get no support from Russia,” Roman Lyagin, the head of the self-proclaimed republic’s election commission told reporters on Saturday, cited RIA Novosti.

“The referendum will be considered valid whatever voter turnout will be,” he added, according to Itar-Tass.

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“According to a survey, 83 % of Lugansk residents are ready to support the Act of state self-rule of the People’s Republic of Lugansk,” the head of the local election commission, Igor Shakhov told Interfax.

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“I personally do not think that Kiev want a peaceful solution to the crisis. So far, we have seen that they only want its escalation,” a co-chair of the republic’s government Miroslav Rudenko told Interfax.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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May 10, 2014, 10:35:46 PM
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Neo-Nazis in Moscow’s Service


Neo-Nazi self-styled "people’s governor" Pavel Gubarev among friends  (http://vk.com/wall-23482909_275952?reply=276264)

While criminalizing honest historical debate under the guise of fighting “restoration of Nazism”, the Kremlin is showing incredible willingness to use neo-Nazi groups for its dirty work in Ukraine

Whether Vladimir Putin’s call for a postponement of the May 11 pseudo-referendums in Donbas was genuine will shortly become clear.  The reported announcement that the leaders of the self-styled Donetsk People’s Republic are “against” postponement may indicate that it was a mere attempt to distance Moscow from the militants.  The attempt would be pitifully unconvincing, but that has not been a consideration up till now.  Nor has damage to Russia’s reputation of the Kremlin’s continuing use of neo-Nazis to do its dirty work.  

The latest scandal came on May 7 when SBU [the Security Service] made public an intercepted telephone call which appears to show a local militant – who calls himself Dmitry Boitsov - receiving instructions on holding the May 11 “referendum” from the head of the neo-Nazi Russian National Unity movement, Alexander Barkashov.

The tape which the SBU has provided English subtitles for can be found here.  If genuine, then Boitsov was having cold feet about the “referendum”, saying that they needed Russian support, including troops and that he couldn’t hold the referendum.  On the tape Barkashov tells him that the referendum can’t be cancelled, and advises him to forget about details, just write that 99%, well maybe 89% voted for the Donetsk republic.


Dmitry Boitsov  (eajc.org)

Boitsov is instructed to not complicate things, but to ask a simple question that “everybody” will be for.

This in fact is what the “referendums” do.  The Luhansk region single question asks whether people support independence for the so-called Luhansk People’s Republic.

It is possible that the recording is a fake, however the links with Barkashov and his neo-Nazi movement are certainly not.  On the social network VKontakte, Barkashov’s description of SBU manages to be both anti-Semitic and anti-Ukrainian.  He goes on to ask why he would be having a phone call when he can speak with Boitsov in person since he’s already in Donetsk.  “SO WE’RE HERE WAITING FOR BANDERA-SUPPORTING ENTHUSIASTS AND WILL KILL AS MANY AS WE CAN.”

Whether or not Barkashov is physically present in Donetsk, his comrades are.  One of them, Pavel Gubarev was released from detention on Wednesday as part of the exchange with three SBU officers captured, brutally beaten and paraded on Russian television channels two weeks ago.

Gubarev has been treated as “political prisoner No. 1” by the Kremlin and as a hero by the Russian media.  Information both about the violent disturbances initiated by this self-proclaimed people’s governor which resulted in his detention and his close ties to  far-right groups including RNE can be found here.  

RNE recently repeated the same call for Russian military intervention as that made earlier by Gubarev.  Considering its adherents’ usual specific vocabulary, the RNE appeal seems remarkably free of expletives and could be quoted.  It is not worth doing so, however, as all the phrases about an illegal Kyiv junta and the villainous Right Sector could be pulled from any Russian Foreign Ministry statement.

With one notable omission.  There is no mention of “fascists” or “anti-Semites” which is hardly surprising given the neo-Nazi views RNE supporters espouse.


Gubarev with neo-Nazi friends

Neo-Nazi self-styled "people’s governor" Pavel Gubarev among friends  (http://vk.com/wall-23482909_275952?reply=276264)

While criminalizing honest historical debate under the guise of fighting “restoration of Nazism”, the Kremlin is showing incredible willingness to use neo-Nazi groups for its dirty work in Ukraine

Whether Vladimir Putin’s call for a postponement of the May 11 pseudo-referendums in Donbas was genuine will shortly become clear.  The reported announcement that the leaders of the self-styled Donetsk People’s Republic are “against” postponement may indicate that it was a mere attempt to distance Moscow from the militants.  The attempt would be pitifully unconvincing, but that has not been a consideration up till now.  Nor has damage to Russia’s reputation of the Kremlin’s continuing use of neo-Nazis to do its dirty work.  

The latest scandal came on May 7 when SBU [the Security Service] made public an intercepted telephone call which appears to show a local militant – who calls himself Dmitry Boitsov - receiving instructions on holding the May 11 “referendum” from the head of the neo-Nazi Russian National Unity movement, Alexander Barkashov.

The tape which the SBU has provided English subtitles for can be found here.  If genuine, then Boitsov was having cold feet about the “referendum”, saying that they needed Russian support, including troops and that he couldn’t hold the referendum.  On the tape Barkashov tells him that the referendum can’t be cancelled, and advises him to forget about details, just write that 99%, well maybe 89% voted for the Donetsk republic.

Dmitry Boitsov  (eajc.org)

Boitsov is instructed to not complicate things, but to ask a simple question that “everybody” will be for.

This in fact is what the “referendums” do.  The Luhansk region single question asks whether people support independence for the so-called Luhansk People’s Republic.

It is possible that the recording is a fake, however the links with Barkashov and his neo-Nazi movement are certainly not.  On the social network VKontakte, Barkashov’s description of SBU manages to be both anti-Semitic and anti-Ukrainian.  He goes on to ask why he would be having a phone call when he can speak with Boitsov in person since he’s already in Donetsk.  “SO WE’RE HERE WAITING FOR BANDERA-SUPPORTING ENTHUSIASTS AND WILL KILL AS MANY AS WE CAN.”

Whether or not Barkashov is physically present in Donetsk, his comrades are.  One of them, Pavel Gubarev was released from detention on Wednesday as part of the exchange with three SBU officers captured, brutally beaten and paraded on Russian television channels two weeks ago.

Gubarev has been treated as “political prisoner No. 1” by the Kremlin and as a hero by the Russian media.  Information both about the violent disturbances initiated by this self-proclaimed people’s governor which resulted in his detention and his close ties to  far-right groups including RNE can be found here.  

RNE recently repeated the same call for Russian military intervention as that made earlier by Gubarev.  Considering its adherents’ usual specific vocabulary, the RNE appeal seems remarkably free of expletives and could be quoted.  It is not worth doing so, however, as all the phrases about an illegal Kyiv junta and the villainous Right Sector could be pulled from any Russian Foreign Ministry statement.

With one notable omission.  There is no mention of “fascists” or “anti-Semites” which is hardly surprising given the neo-Nazi views RNE supporters espouse.

Gubarev with neo-Nazi friends

Viacheslav Likhachev who has for many years monitored xenophobia and anti-Semitism in Ukraine, explains that the Russian National Unity movement is the oldest neo-Nazi organization in Russia. As far back as 1990 it began using the swastika on its emblem and the Nazi raised arm greeting.

Likhachev points out that RNE fighters have been taking an active role in the pro-Russian “separatist” protests in Ukraine, mentioning Gubarev in particular.  Other radical nationalist and often anti-Semitic organizations have also been involved.  These include Black Hundred; the Eurasian Youth Union; and the National Bolshevik Party.  He adds that Barkashov and a number of others calling themselves RNE “inspectors” visited southern and eastern oblasts in March.

“As far as is possible to judge, at least a part of this activity by Russian neo-Nazis on Ukrainian territory is coordinated and led by the Russian security service”.  He notes that RNE has a long history of collaboration with the FSB.

Just this Monday Putin signed a law which criminalizes denial of Nazi crimes and “distortion of the role of the USSR in the Second World War”.

Putin signed a law on May 5 making the denial of Nazi crimes and distortion of the Soviet Union’s role in the World War Two a criminal offence punishable by up to five years in jail.  Surveys have already found a large number of Russians unaware that the Soviet Union collaborated with Nazi Germany until June 22 1941.  One can assume that with the threat of a 5 year prison sentence, the range of taboo subjects will only increase.

Those of us who indeed view Nazi ideology as monstrous can only feel profound frustration that this law appears aimed primarily at stifling free and honest historical discourse.  The Kremlin’s use of neo-Nazi allies to do its dirty work in Ukraine has been clear for a long time.  At a time when all of Europe remembers victory over Nazi Germany and those who died in that War, such collaboration is simply incomprehensible.

http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1399501345


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May 10, 2014, 10:52:57 PM
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ruSSian separatists attacking TV tower in Sloviansk, National Guard is defending, there is a crossfire http://bit.ly/1nzZiEN  |EMPR #Ukraine

http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/05/11/7024961/

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Aндpyщyкa пoвecили

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Great response to #Putin:"#Kolomoysky's map" of annexation #Russian territories http://obozrevatel.com/politics/78462-v-fejsbuke-opublikovali-kartu-kolomojskogo-anneksii-rossijskih-territorij.htm




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Aндpyщyкa пoвecили


Taк бyдeт co вceми yпыpями
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#Russian "experts" knew about #Odesa tragedy in details before May 2,2014. So clever? https://www.facebook.com/euromaidanpr/posts/258193021031174 … | EMPR


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May 10, 2014, 11:51:04 PM
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The press conference of the 'Central elections nazis committee' of the 'Donetsk ruSSian  republic' on the eve of the 'referendum'.

Sources from Eastern Ukraine inform that nobody knows what's going on, there's no information on where to vote, for example. None. So, if there are almost no polling stations, and no voter lists, and no official counting procedure, and in the absence of film footage showing a couple of million people mobilizing to vote tomorrow in an organised and democratic way, how can they even begin to think that they can declare any kind of result?? Answer = Well, it worked in Crimea... They think.


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Great response to #Putin:"#Kolomoysky's map" of annexation #Russian territories http://obozrevatel.com/politics/78462-v-fejsbuke-opublikovali-kartu-kolomojskogo-anneksii-rossijskih-territorij.htm



Kolomoysky is on LSD LOL  Cheesy

And here is what actualy going to happen soon
http://f.mypage.ru/fb8230ec89e479702d33f505da37ea98_e187d14db2f51149481467dc60d69950.jpg

And some fun stuff)))
https://pp.vk.me/c540101/c7008/v7008627/1174c/OguztjzxX70.jpg
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https://pp.vk.me/c616119/v616119738/cf08/rgyROqILYDo.jpg
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http://cs7009.vk.me/c540104/v540104095/1196a/fWc5d-cj_jE.jpg

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Oт пpecc-cлyжбы Игopя Cтpeлкoвa.

Я пepeдaл пoздpaвлeния Игopю Ивaнoвичy c Пpaздникoм Пoбeды oт ceбя личнo и oт вcex нepaвнoдyшныx читaтeлeй. Oн cepдeчнo пoблaгoдapил зa пoздpaвлeния. Caм, в cвoю oчepeдь, пoздpaвил мeня и вeлeл пepeдaть пoздpaвлeния вceм.

Mы oбcyдили, кaк пpoшёл Дeнь Пoбeды в Cлaвянcкe, в Лyгaнcкe. Oбcyдили вoccтaнoвлeнный тaнк T-34, кoтopый тeпepь вoюeт зa oпoлчeнцeв Лyгaнcкa.

Я oтмeтил, чтo кaк интepecнo пoвepнyлacь иcтopия, чтo opyжиe нaшиx дeдoв пoмoгaeт ceйчac, в XXI вeкe бopoтьcя c coвpeмeнными фaшиcтaми. Ha чтo Игopь Ивaнoвич, кaк знaтoк этoгo opyжия (oн жe peкoнcтpyктop!) мнe paccкaзaл мнoгo интepecнoгo!

Hy пpo ППШ y oпoлчeнцeв Гopлoвки вы знaeтe.

Игopь Ивaнoвич paccкaзaл, чтo мнoгиe eгo бoйцы вoopyжeны нoвeнькими Haгaнaми, пиcтoлeтaми TT.

Oткyдa oн иx бepёт? Я дaжe нe знaю!

Я eгo cпpocил нeocтopoжнo, a гдe жe Bы вcё этo бepётe? Oн чeлoвeк кyльтypный, интeллигeнтный. Cpaзy мeня нe пocлaл зa дypaцкий вoпpoc.

Oтвeтил кyльтypнo: «He ocкyдeлa зeмля Дoнeтчины…»

Oчeнь кopoткo кocнyлиcь тeмы бopьбы c бpoнeтexникoй пpoтивникa. Hy пpo ПTУPы вce yжe знaют. Иx вeздe yжe пoкaзывaют.

И тyт Игopь Ивaнoвич cкaзaл (цитaтa) «жaль, чтo нeт в pacпopяжeнии бoлee пpocтыx и лeгкиx ПTP Дeгтяpeвa,
a ПTP Cимoнoвa oчeнь yж кaпpизныe.»

Для cпpaвки. ПTP — этo пpoтивoтaнкoвoe pyжьё. Иx aктивнo иcпoльзoвaли нaши бoйцы вo вpeмя Beликoй Oтeчecтвeннoй вoйны. Былo двa видa ПTP: пpoтивoтaнкoвoe pyжьё Дeгтяpёвa (oднoзapяднoe) ПTPД и Пpoтивoтaнкoвoe pyжьё Cимoнoвa (мнoгoзapяднoe).

Я тoжe нeмнoгo paзбиpaюcь в opyжии. Ho тeopeтичecки.

A Игopь Ивaнoвич - пpaктичecки, мoжнo cкaзaть, кaк OПЫTHЫЙ пoльзoвaтeль. :-)

Я eгo cпpaшивaю: «A пpoтив кaкoй coвpeмeннoй бpoниpoвaннoй тexники мoжнo иcпoльзoвaть ПTPы вpeмён вoйны? Toлькo пpoтив БTPoв?».

Oн мнe oтвeчaeт: «ПTP лeгкo лyпит вcё, кpoмe тaнкa. He тoлькo БTP, нo и БMП и БMД в тoм чиcлe».

Hy зa тaнки y Игopя Ивaнoвичa oтвeчaeт кoллeкция ПTPК (Пpoтивoтaнкoвыx Paкeтныx Кoмплeкcoв).

Для тex, ктo нe в кypce. БTP - бpoнeтpaнcпopтёp. Ha ниx в ocнoвнoм пepeдвигaютcя yкpaинcкиe мoтocтpeлки и вcякaя шyшepa, типa Haцгвapдии и пpaвoceкoв. БПM - Бoeвaя Maшинa Пexoты. Moжнo cкaзaть, чтo этo лёгкий дecaнтный тaнк, кoтopый cпocoбeн пepeмeщaть мoтocтpeлкoв и пoддepживaть иx oгнём пyшки и пyлeмётoв. Имeннo БMП вчepa штypмoвaли Mapиyпoль. БMД - Бoeвaя Maшинa Дecaнтa. Уcлoвнo тoжe, чтo и БMП, нo нa ниx пepeдвигaютcя yкpaинcкиe дecaнтники. Имeннo 6 шт. БMД дocтaлиcь oпoлчeнию Cлaвянcкa.

И дa. Зaбыл дoбaвить. Игopь Ивaнoвич пpocил пepeдaть нepaвнoдyшным житeлям Дoнбacca, чтo ecли y ниx cлyчaйнo «зaвaлялиcь» ПTPд (Пpoтивoтaнкoвыe Pyжья Дeктяpёвa), тo oн c yдoвoльcтвиeм вoзьмёт иx вo вpeмeннoe пoльзoвaниe. Heoбxoдимocти в ПTPc (Пpoтивo-Taнкoвыe Pyжья Cимoнoвa) yжe нeт…

Дa yж. He ocкyдeлa зeмля Дoнeтчины!

Coвceм зaбыл! Для кoгo этo я пишy? Пpeждe вceгo для yкpaинcкиx дecaнтникoв и мoтocтpeлкoв!

He нaдo выпoлнять пpecтyпныx пpикaзoв!

Heyжeли вaм тaк xoчeтcя иcпытaть нa ceбe дeйcтвиe coвeтcкoгo opyжия Пoбeды?

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Xaзapcкий Кaгaнaт  Grin
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May 11, 2014, 12:02:08 AM
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И дa. Зaбыл дoбaвить. Игopь Ивaнoвич пpocил пepeдaть нepaвнoдyшным житeлям Дoнбacca, чтo ecли y ниx cлyчaйнo «зaвaлялиcь» ПTPд (Пpoтивoтaнкoвыe Pyжья Дeктяpёвa), тo oн c yдoвoльcтвиeм вoзьмёт иx вo вpeмeннoe пoльзoвaниe. Heoбxoдимocти в ПTPc (Пpoтивo-Taнкoвыe Pyжья Cимoнoвa) yжe нeт…


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May 11, 2014, 12:14:05 AM
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дeнь (пo)Бeды  Grin


There are so many fake WWII veterans in Russia, Ukraine and other countries today. But many of them can be identified very easily – just analyze their decorations.



Real decorations

A badge of “Veteran of KGB” with the profile of Dzerzhinsky
A badge for “Special department of KGB USSR”

Made-up decorations:

3. Twice the Hero of Soviet Union
27 remaining “double” heroes, of whom 24 astronauts and 3 aviators, no-one from NKVD.

4. Hero of the socialist labour
the only surviving “Hero of Socialist labour” and at the same time once hero of Soviet Union – V.I. Golovchenko, director of “sovkhoz”.

5. Seven Orders of Lenin
Throughout the history that many orders of Lenin were only awarded to marshalls Semyon Budyonny and Ivan Bagramyan, and also the first Minister of the Soviet-era Ministry of General Machine Building Sergey Aleksandrovich Afanasyev.

6. The Order of Alexander Nevsky
None of the staff from NKVD, MGB, KGB were awarded.

7. Three “Orders of the October Revolution”
triple award of this order does not exist.

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May 11, 2014, 12:29:45 AM
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