Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[bryant.coleman]

Out of the two Ukrainian Army APCs which crossed over to the Russian border, one broke down 1 km inside Russia. The crew was rescued by the second APC, which withdrew to Ukraine.

Successful rebel ambush lead by Igor Girkin in Slavyansk. 2 APCs, 1 truck and 1 Engineering vehicle destroyed.

[247crypto]

http://lifenews.ru/news/134950

[247crypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTSBetgr6rA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tZurGHjSAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iivjp62EDm0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpa9rU31Jrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA710oRTGxA

[Paya]

I see tanks which are not in use by the Ukrainian army with Russian flags on it.

Russian flag is often displayed by rebels so that doesn't really mean anything. And it's not on the tanks but trucks. Finally, tanks in your video look a lot like T-80UD, which is used by Ukrainian army. To be honest, this whole story about Russian tanks in Ukraine sounds like cheap propagandistic crap.

[niothor]

I bet that woman with a bicycle was a cia agent , right?

" A pro-Russian fighter checks documents of a woman leaving the city at a checkpoint in Sloviansk. Photo: AP"

There is written all about.

So this is normal , right?

Are we back to the urss era when the question is papers or siberia?

[bryant.coleman]

Military transport aircraft shot down in Lugansk. No exact figure available for the casualties, but it seems that dozens of Ukrainian army personnel were killed. (The normal crew for the Il-76 numbers 7 people + it was transporting an unknown number of soldiers)

Military jet downed by anti-Kiev forces in Lugansk - Ukraine's defense ministry

http://rt.com/news/165880-ukraine-lugansk-jet-paratroopers/

[247crypto]

Lugansk missile lunch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz2FNcJTlSo

[bryant.coleman]

Location of the Ukrainian APC, deep inside the Russian territory:



Militia HQ in Mariupol captured by the Ukrainian Army:

http://lifenews.ru/news/134955

[myshownow]

I bet that woman with a bicycle was a cia agent , right?

" A pro-Russian fighter checks documents of a woman leaving the city at a checkpoint in Sloviansk. Photo: AP"

There is written all about.

So this is normal , right?

Are we back to the urss era when the question is papers or siberia?

So, you're at it again. So that's your assigned task, to irritate. LOL. I guess a propaganda errand boy from Romania is much cheaper. Riskier though, if the American propagandists have lost their credibility, how much credibility would a pretentious Rumanian cheapo be credited with?

I think it's obvious American (or WEstern ) propaganda has not been very effective. Spiegel, the neocon paper in Germany, admitted as much that Russian propaganda has won in the Ukrainian crisis. I guess, after the lie of the fake weapon of mass destruction in Iraq & fake poison gas in Syria, it has exhausted its credibility & everybody is just too tired with it already. The fact that the majority in the WEstern world are complaining now of being in financial dire straits have sapped their capacity to be fooled by the usual propaganda techniques. The American press is composed mostly of newspapers tottering into bankruptcy (so more malleable from the powers that be) & in a poll, only 25% of American believe what they read in the news. So they outsource the propaganda work now in poor East European states because they are easier to dazzle there, just the illusion of being associated with former rich, now poor Westerners, will gladden their simple sucker hearts?

Siberia, btw, is far richer than Romania, & you see richer more modern cities there than Bucharest (Yekaterinburg, Novosobirsk, Chelyabinsk, Tyumen, among many others).

[myshownow]

I really miss Nemo
With him at least you could have an interesting discussion

You can eat your shit self.

Thanks for helping me making my point

Nithior is a propaganda errand boy & you see in his comments the basic outline of his mission order : when any point is made that improves the image of the Novorussian rebels, do these (basic propaganda techniques, btw,):
1) insult to lessen the impact  (when I first posted here that I am rooting for the rebels because I can understand how they felt to be trapped with the poor Ukrainians when they can see their Russian brothers, separated by just a border, are now the richest country in Europe & they have to suffer the Africa level poverty in Ukraine (World Bank, GDP-PPP of Russia $3.4 trillion vs. Germany's $3.3 trillion) , Nithior immediately went to attack me that what I wrote was "propaganda". So a reader who innocently posts here will be attacked immediately by an undercover propaganda errand boy just to make sure that the positive effects of the innocent comments will be countered, as instructed by his mission order (or he will not get his allowance?)
2) grab the high moral high horse & act mightier than everybody else to make their opinions lesser than yours so invalidating their positive effect. Just read the quotes with 24crypto above to illustrate this point. That's why he always mention things like "URSS", "commie" & "Siberia" & he even had the chutzpah to pretend to appear classy. Coming from Rumania, a poor country no matter how you look at it (I've gone there, I found the Hungarian-developed cities like Temesvar (Timisoara to Rumanian) & Nagyvarad (Oradea to Romanians) beautiful but the Rumanian cities including Bucharest were ugly & poor.  Former "commie" too, btw, so where did he get the gall to pretend Rumania is not more commie than Russia? How credible a Rumanian acting high & mighty in this forum, is there anything even Rumania famous for aside from its being poor & a cultural backwater whose only claim to history was that they were serfs to the Hungarians & if not for being poodle to the French, they would only retain the ugly towns in their small slice of land? Well, France is now a has-been. They thought being poodle to the bankrupt US will make them into something. Lol, only Rumanians will take pride in being poodle to bankrupt masters (I should know, my wife is American).

Let's give more class to our forums. Out with the pretentious, it's kinda disgusting Yuck! LOL

[247crypto]

Nithior is a propaganda errand boy

He is adult webmaster.

[myshownow]

Nithior is a propaganda errand boy

He is adult webmaster.

Well, he was more likely planted

[247crypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy-MAi-KSyY

[247crypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B29QKfdNO_Q

[247crypto]

Дaнныe пo cбитoй "Cyшкe" пoдтвepдилиcь. Упaлa eщe вчepa в paйoнe Cтapoвapвapoвки. Ecть paзнoчтeния пo пoвoдy мapки (Cy-24 или Cy-25), тaк кaк, пo oдним дaнным, взятo в плeн 2 лeтчикa, пo дpyгим - oдин.
Ceгoдня Cy-25 нaнecли yдap пo вoдooчиcтным coopyжeниям г.Дpyжкoвкa. Цeлeнaпpaвлeннo бoмбили имeннo иx - xoтя тaм нeт и нe былo ни oднoгo oпoлчeнцa.

Ha кpacнoлимaнcкoм нaпpaвлeнии имeл мecтo пoвтopный бoй - пpoтивник aтaкoвaл нaши пoзиции y Ямпoля пpи пoддepжкe 2 тaнкoв и нecкoлькиx БTP. Aтaкa oтpaжeнa, c нaшeй cтopoны ecть пoтepи, в гocпитaль дocтaвлeны 2 paнeныx. Пo пoтepям пpoтивникa инфopмaции пoкa нeт.

Haши минoмeты нaнecли yдap пo блoкпocтy y cъeздa c тpaccы Xapькoв-Pocтoв нa пoвopoтe к Кpacнoмy Лимaнy. Имeли мecтo тoчныe пoпaдaния. Пoпыткa минoмeтнoй бaтapeи пpoтивникa oткpыть oтвeтный oгoнь былa пoдaвлeнa пocлe пepвoгo жe выcтpeлa. Oднaкo пoтepи пpoтивникa вpяд ли вeлики, тaк кaк oн тaм вpылcя в зeмлю нe мeнee тщaтeльнo, чeм нaши бoйцы в Ceмeнoвкe. 

[bryant.coleman]

Nurse dies as Kiev military shell hits local hospital in Slavyansk

http://rt.com/news/165988-ukraine-slavyansk-hospitals-nurse/

They are trying to take Slavyansk for more than a month now. Don't have the balls to advance?

[niothor]

Nurse dies as Kiev military shell hits local hospital in Slavyansk

http://rt.com/news/165988-ukraine-slavyansk-hospitals-nurse/

They are trying to take Slavyansk for more than a month now. Don't have the balls to advance?

But didn't you just said they have taken Slavyansk?

Nope. Putin has refused to support the rebels, and they have lost major cities such as Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, as well as the port city of Mariupol recently.

[bryant.coleman]

But didn't you just said they have taken Slavyansk?

The Ukrainians have control over only 50% of the city center, although they have captured most of the suburbs and the neighboring villages. A few days ago, I thought that after the capture of Krasnyi Liman, Slavyansk will be the next city to fall. But the rebels have surprised me with their resistance, especially the Strelkovtsev. Some 500 rebel fighters are still there in the city center, surrounded by some 10,000 troops.

BTW.... it is advantage Ukrainian Army. They are in control of the nearby Karachun hill, an elevated location. Very significant.

[tsoPANos]

Apart from the Ukrainians and the russians it is noteworthy
that 4.3% of the residents at Mariupol are Greeks, while there
are even more living in the surrouning area totaling 50.000 Greeks.
There are even more minorities:

Ethnicity    Ukrainian       Russian    Greek       Belarusian       Armenian       Jews       Bulgarian       other       All population

Number of people 248,683 226,848 21,923 3,858 1,205    1,176 1,082 6,060 510,835

Percent of population    48.7    44.4    4.3    0.8    0.2    0.2    0.2    1.2    100

That makes it much more complex.

Souce: Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol#Demographics

[niothor]

But didn't you just said they have taken Slavyansk?

The Ukrainians have control over only 50% of the city center, although they have captured most of the suburbs and the neighboring villages. A few days ago, I thought that after the capture of Krasnyi Liman, Slavyansk will be the next city to fall. But the rebels have surprised me with their resistance, especially the Strelkovtsev. Some 500 rebel fighters are still there in the city center, surrounded by some 10,000 troops.

BTW.... it is advantage Ukrainian Army. They are in control of the nearby Karachun hill, an elevated location. Very significant.

No , no and again no. it wasn't a discussion from a few days ago.
You claimed at 9:16 that the rebels lost the city and at 9:25 same day you where accusing the Ukrainians on not having balls to take the city.

For people who only read this board and don't give that much attention to the news this is confusing as hell.