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August 16, 2014, 12:50:50 PM |
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September? The army has entered Luhansk There are numerous reports of the rebels changing their clothes to civil ones in Donetsk. Fewer and fewer of those are seen wearing suits and only people dressed in civilians are guarding the posts.
Numerous rumors of a possible "evacuation" or better said them fleeing after August the 17-18.
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August 16, 2014, 01:07:22 PM |
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#Ukrainian flag flown over a police station in #Luhansk's Zhovtnevy district @Dbnmjr
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August 16, 2014, 02:30:39 PM |
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Gleb Bazov ‏@gbazov 18 min. #Ukraine Soldier: There are more dead than in nine years in Afghanistan. Guys were ripped to pieces. We gathered them. #CRIMINAL #POROSHENKO
Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 15 min. Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary urge the #EU to lift sanctions against #Russia, as Europe loses more from sanctions than Russia
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August 16, 2014, 02:32:59 PM |
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Ukraine soldiers captured - They refused to surrender with their mates in the S. Cauldron
17 more Ukrainian soldiers have crossed over the border to Russia (72nd Brigade) from the Southern Cauldron today. Meanwhile the Russians have set up a camp for those Ukrainian soldiers, who have refused to go back to Kiev.
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August 16, 2014, 02:35:04 PM |
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Ukraine soldiers captured - They refused to surrender with their mates in the S. Cauldron
17 more Ukrainian soldiers have crossed over the border to Russia (72nd Brigade) from the Southern Cauldron today. Meanwhile the Russians have set up a camp for those Ukrainian soldiers, who have refused to go back to Kiev. Like the other fake story about the soldiers who requested to stay in Russia but all returned?
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August 16, 2014, 02:37:32 PM |
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And again the rebels are victorious and victorious again and again... Ukrainian army has arrived at Nyzhnya Krynka , and conquered Maloorlivka.
Of course that won't match with the DNR map who are keeping silent about the Ukraine flag inside Luhansk.
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August 16, 2014, 02:39:13 PM |
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Like the other fake story about the soldiers who requested to stay in Russia but all returned?
Do you have any proof to claim that all of them have returned? Out of the 438 soldiers who crossed in to Russia last week, only 180 have agreed to return to Kiev. Russian TV channels are still showing interviews with them, in the camp set for these people in the Rostov Oblast, Russia. Even the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence have said that only around 200 have returned from Russia.
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August 16, 2014, 02:41:11 PM |
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Like the other fake story about the soldiers who requested to stay in Russia but all returned?
Do you have any proof to claim that all of them have returned? Out of the 438 soldiers who crossed in to Russia last week, only 180 have agreed to return to Kiev. Russian TV channels are still showing interviews with them, in the camp set for these people in the Rostov Oblast, Russia. Even the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence have said that only around 200 have returned from Russia. http://www.osce.org/om/122341KAMENSK-SHAKHTINSKY, Russian Federation, 4 August 2014 - On 1-2 August 2014 Ukrainian army officers made contact with the OSCE Observer Mission (OM) to request OSCE assistance to open a passageway to the Gukovo border crossing point (BCP) of the Russian Federation (RF) for several hundred Ukrainian servicemen. On 2 August, an initial group of 12 Ukrainian troops crossed into the RF. On 4 August, the OSCE Observer Mission witnessed the passage of 437 Ukrainian servicemen. They were sent to a nearby transit facility and, according to the local Russian authorities, all of them were set to return to Ukraine in the hours to come. At 15:00 on 4 August, the OM met with the Gukovo BCP commander and the regional border commander. The OM enquired about the transfer of the servicemen from RF to Ukraine and learned that 192 were already on their way by bus to Ukraine and that the others would follow in the next bus. The Observer Mission also enquired about any asylum request and none was reported. The cell phones of the 72nd brigade commander and border guard commander were not reachable to confirm this information. What more do you want?
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August 16, 2014, 02:50:23 PM |
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http://www.osce.org/om/122341KAMENSK-SHAKHTINSKY, Russian Federation, 4 August 2014 - On 1-2 August 2014 Ukrainian army officers made contact with the OSCE Observer Mission (OM) to request OSCE assistance to open a passageway to the Gukovo border crossing point (BCP) of the Russian Federation (RF) for several hundred Ukrainian servicemen. On 2 August, an initial group of 12 Ukrainian troops crossed into the RF. On 4 August, the OSCE Observer Mission witnessed the passage of 437 Ukrainian servicemen. They were sent to a nearby transit facility and, according to the local Russian authorities, all of them were set to return to Ukraine in the hours to come. At 15:00 on 4 August, the OM met with the Gukovo BCP commander and the regional border commander. The OM enquired about the transfer of the servicemen from RF to Ukraine and learned that 192 were already on their way by bus to Ukraine and that the others would follow in the next bus. The Observer Mission also enquired about any asylum request and none was reported. The cell phones of the 72nd brigade commander and border guard commander were not reachable to confirm this information. What more do you want? Here is the problem. 192 returned to Ukraine. The remainder still remains in Russia. And here is hidden camera video of Ukrainian soldiers saying that they have lost more than 10,000 men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77lO7KmftI
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August 16, 2014, 02:54:14 PM |
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http://www.osce.org/om/122341KAMENSK-SHAKHTINSKY, Russian Federation, 4 August 2014 - On 1-2 August 2014 Ukrainian army officers made contact with the OSCE Observer Mission (OM) to request OSCE assistance to open a passageway to the Gukovo border crossing point (BCP) of the Russian Federation (RF) for several hundred Ukrainian servicemen. On 2 August, an initial group of 12 Ukrainian troops crossed into the RF. On 4 August, the OSCE Observer Mission witnessed the passage of 437 Ukrainian servicemen. They were sent to a nearby transit facility and, according to the local Russian authorities, all of them were set to return to Ukraine in the hours to come. At 15:00 on 4 August, the OM met with the Gukovo BCP commander and the regional border commander. The OM enquired about the transfer of the servicemen from RF to Ukraine and learned that 192 were already on their way by bus to Ukraine and that the others would follow in the next bus. The Observer Mission also enquired about any asylum request and none was reported. The cell phones of the 72nd brigade commander and border guard commander were not reachable to confirm this information. What more do you want? Here is the problem. 192 returned to Ukraine. The remainder still remains in Russia. And here is hidden camera video of Ukrainian soldiers saying that they have lost more than 10,000 men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77lO7KmftIFirst your numbers where wrong. ADMIT IT! Second , there is no report fo those poeple staying in Russia. ADMIT IT! The OSCE denied that ANY soldier requested permission to stay in Russia! Back you proof by something else rather that a video filmed with a "hidden camera" in HD!
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August 16, 2014, 02:57:19 PM |
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Ukraine does not (want to) acknowledge the load from Russia as humanitarian aid, (so they don't let it be sent to the people being massacred in Lugansk): http://ria.ru/world/20140816/1020267810.html
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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August 16, 2014, 03:01:25 PM |
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Nemo , please help me with the math. The rusian have sent over 2000 tones of help in 280 trucks. The RIA news claimed that the trucks are only half loaded or even less because they are new bla blbla... etc.And from the pictures some don't even carry 1/4 of their max load. The maximum load of a truck like those in the pictures is 9.6 tonnes (checked). Some thing is wrong here.
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August 16, 2014, 03:05:49 PM |
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First your numbers where wrong. ADMIT IT! No. Even the OSCE has confirmed the numbers. Second , there is no report fo those poeple staying in Russia. ADMIT IT! There are. http://lifenews.ru/news/137842Back you proof by something else rather that a video filmed with a "hidden camera" in HD!
Do you have any doubt that those pictured in the video are not real Ukrainian soldiers?
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August 16, 2014, 03:10:22 PM |
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