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Anyway, always remember, not your keys not your coins and KYC is dangerous, on any platform. Thats right. This is the reason why we need to be careful on where to entrust our details because there's always a risk associated for complying on kyc. What if worse case scenario happened and our personal details gets compromise? Its a big problem. In Roobet, level 1 verification became a mandatory if you want to continue to play. I comply on this requirement because this site is one of the casino that I prefer playing. Its a choice but it doesnt mean everyone should do the same because it still depends on what you prefer and your trust for the particular casino.
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But as far as I know Roobet only ask for level 1 KYC, right?
Yes, on Roobet, all players have to complete at least the level 1 verification by providing the following information: name, second name, date of birth, country of usual residence, and telephone number *. They have a deposit/withdraw threshold amount after which you will have to complete level 2 verification. This doesn't mean if you are going to deposit/withdraw small amounts you can provide wrong information because they do crosscheck those information. * https://roobet.com/aml-policyYes, providing incorrect data can endanger the player's position, maybe many players only play with small values and never think about winning big but what if that happens and the security system from Roobet asks the player to do the next level KYC and this will become a problem or what if in the future Roobet changes the rules there will be a withdrawal limit from each KYC level, so be careful in acting to avoid unpleasant things in the future Basically it means that if you provide incorrect information and then get asked about it later on, you will be caught and they will not ask you to just fix it, they will ban you because using someone else's KYC for that account and then saying that it wasn't you means that you tried to basically scam the website. This is why I would totally understand the logic behind not wanting to have anyone commit such rule break and ban that person. So you should not gamble here at all if you want to just provide a fake KYC, either provide your own or just get away. There are some which doesn't ask KYC at all, that means you could end up gambling there without providing KYC if you do not want to provide it that much.
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June 05, 2022, 11:16:23 AM |
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KYC is not really a problem because we need to live with it since most provably in future we will deal this on legit platforn where we want to go. And since Roobet has proven for so many times that they are one of the best casino then providing little personal detals will provably fine to its existing users. I will be worried about this if unknown or unreputable ask about this since I don't trust anything new and directly ask for your identity.
Talking about being legit, there is no denying that Roobet is a legit Casino, but when it comes to KYC, we must be prepared for anything that might happen in the future, such as our data being leaked, either because the website was hacked or the platform itself misused user data. Agreed in the future KYC will be something hard to avoid.
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Hello, regarding my accusations from previous post that a large number of winning bets are voided. I didn't disappear, I just didn't have time. It is strange to me that none of you have ever had voided sports bet on this so-called bookmaker. The photo below is my last bet with them, of course winning and of course void. Bet can be voided in many reasons so there might have enough reason to make your bet void. I have seen on a lot of reputed gambling site that they voided match and refunded the fund. Same type of case happened to you too. So, it is not a scam and yet if you think it is a scam then you should create a scam accusation on scam accusation board with proper information. i have not seen were they refunded a funds for any of the gambling sites, if their issues that came up and it needed to refund because of void they always with hold the cash and ask all the bets to rebet with their fund's and it has happened to me like twice so I don't know if it is some sites that do that but plenty of them does not consider a refunds of payment or bet payment because I don't know the one you will understand. That is what i pass true
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~but when it comes to KYC, we must be prepared for anything that might happen in the future, such as our data being leaked, either because the website was hacked or the platform itself misused user data.
Do note that in this case, Roobet also uses third-party platforms to conduct its verification process, so another risk vector is still there. For example, back then Mailchimp get compromised which make some cryptocurrencies-related business data get leaked. ~if their issues that came up and it needed to refund because of void they always with hold the cash and ask all the bets to rebet with their fund's ~
The bookie was indeed refunded the void bet. See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5199911.msg59809297#msg59809297. Anyway, it's an old post. I don't know why @shasan rehashed it.
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Before I became away on this forum, I still remember it was the first month of Roobet implementation of their KYC and the users are debating regarding it. And now, the topic is still about KYC. lol Well, if you will only fake the required pieces of information, then don't dare to take the KYC. But if you are aware of the consequences and not worrying about it, then it's up to you. Just to remind you that it's your fault if something happens wrong in the future like not recognizing your big wins and rejecting your huge withdrawals cause of fake credentials/identity. Watch out for their Terms and Conditions.
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Anyway, always remember, not your keys not your coins and KYC is dangerous, on any platform. Thats right. This is the reason why we need to be careful on where to entrust our details because there's always a risk associated for complying on kyc. What if worse case scenario happened and our personal details gets compromise? Its a big problem. In Roobet, level 1 verification became a mandatory if you want to continue to play. I comply on this requirement because this site is one of the casino that I prefer playing. Its a choice but it doesnt mean everyone should do the same because it still depends on what you prefer and your trust for the particular casino. Moreover you are not giving out your privacy completely with the level 1 KYC and being small gambler i will never need to go beyond it but we should always be careful with these privacy problems as your personal data might be misused if you are using some non-legit site or some exchange that are prone yo hacks.So be careful in these matters.
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June 05, 2022, 04:39:34 PM |
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KYC is not really a problem because we need to live with it since most provably in future we will deal this on legit platforn where we want to go. And since Roobet has proven for so many times that they are one of the best casino then providing little personal detals will provably fine to its existing users. I will be worried about this if unknown or unreputable ask about this since I don't trust anything new and directly ask for your identity.
Talking about being legit, there is no denying that Roobet is a legit Casino, but when it comes to KYC, we must be prepared for anything that might happen in the future, such as our data being leaked, either because the website was hacked or the platform itself misused user data. Agreed in the future KYC will be something hard to avoid. Even the casino didn't want that but to comply the rules they have to enforce such requirements so they can operate and this is business so they just want to give smooth user experience also complying all the regulations needed. Anything in the internet can be leaked because even the most secured website hacked twice if I am not wrong so we have to be prepared when we are agreeing those KYC terms who knows in future these government will enforce more KYC which completely may take someone's privacy.
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June 06, 2022, 07:28:20 AM |
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KYC is not really a problem because we need to live with it since most provably in future we will deal this on legit platforn where we want to go. And since Roobet has proven for so many times that they are one of the best casino then providing little personal detals will provably fine to its existing users. I will be worried about this if unknown or unreputable ask about this since I don't trust anything new and directly ask for your identity.
Talking about being legit, there is no denying that Roobet is a legit Casino, but when it comes to KYC, we must be prepared for anything that might happen in the future, such as our data being leaked, either because the website was hacked or the platform itself misused user data. Agreed in the future KYC will be something hard to avoid. Even the casino didn't want that but to comply the rules they have to enforce such requirements so they can operate and this is business so they just want to give smooth user experience also complying all the regulations needed. Anything in the internet can be leaked because even the most secured website hacked twice if I am not wrong so we have to be prepared when we are agreeing those KYC terms who knows in future these government will enforce more KYC which completely may take someone's privacy. I feel that it’s safe to share KYC data with Roobet, because they’re taking extra precautions for protecting the user’s KYC details eg using 256 bit encryption, hence there’s very little chance of KYC details ever getting leaked. Furthermore as rightly said above we can’t escape KYC, but if a casino in this case Roobet has proper mechanism to safeguard our KYC details then there’s no harm in sharing it with them.
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June 06, 2022, 09:25:42 AM |
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I feel that it’s safe to share KYC data with Roobet, because they’re taking extra precautions for protecting the user’s KYC details eg using 256 bit encryption, hence there’s very little chance of KYC details ever getting leaked.
The 256-bit encryption isn't an extra precaution but it is pretty much an industry standard, it's being widely used. You can see that Roobet is using it for the SSL/TLS, so it is surely safe in terms of transmitting any data. if a casino in this case Roobet has proper mechanism to safeguard our KYC details then there’s no harm in sharing it with them.
Pretty naive to say there is no harm, there is always a risk for everything that is shared online on any site. However, please note that electronic transmission or storage of information is not always 100% secure. Therefore, despite the security measures that we have put in place to protect Personal Data about you, we cannot guarantee that loss, misuse, or alteration of data will never occur.
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June 06, 2022, 10:11:00 AM |
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I feel that it’s safe to share KYC data with Roobet, because they’re taking extra precautions for protecting the user’s KYC details eg using 256 bit encryption, hence there’s very little chance of KYC details ever getting leaked.
The 256-bit encryption isn't an extra precaution but it is pretty much an industry standard, it's being widely used. You can see that Roobet is using it for the SSL/TLS, so it is surely safe in terms of transmitting any data. Hardly anyone will attack the transport route itself if someone wants to access the data. The encryption of the transmission path therefore plays no/hardly any role. In the past, major hacks always took place in such a way that someone was able to gain access to the system and tapped the raw data there. Roobet does not store the KYC data in plain text but encrypts it again, but this is not something that Roobet came up with on its own but is required when handling KYC data.
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June 06, 2022, 10:54:23 AM |
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KYC is not really a problem because we need to live with it since most provably in future we will deal this on legit platforn where we want to go. And since Roobet has proven for so many times that they are one of the best casino then providing little personal detals will provably fine to its existing users. I will be worried about this if unknown or unreputable ask about this since I don't trust anything new and directly ask for your identity.
Talking about being legit, there is no denying that Roobet is a legit Casino, but when it comes to KYC, we must be prepared for anything that might happen in the future, such as our data being leaked, either because the website was hacked or the platform itself misused user data. Agreed in the future KYC will be something hard to avoid. Even the casino didn't want that but to comply the rules they have to enforce such requirements so they can operate and this is business so they just want to give smooth user experience also complying all the regulations needed. Anything in the internet can be leaked because even the most secured website hacked twice if I am not wrong so we have to be prepared when we are agreeing those KYC terms who knows in future these government will enforce more KYC which completely may take someone's privacy. I feel that it’s safe to share KYC data with Roobet, because they’re taking extra precautions for protecting the user’s KYC details eg using 256 bit encryption, hence there’s very little chance of KYC details ever getting leaked. Furthermore as rightly said above we can’t escape KYC, but if a casino in this case Roobet has proper mechanism to safeguard our KYC details then there’s no harm in sharing it with them. Compare to any other casino which is not been tested over the years I can also say that its quite safe to provide KYC in roobet because their reputation is good assurance that they will not rug or endanger us by leaking our data's in any forums or anywhere. For sure in future many platform will require this before registration on every legit casino so people needs to accept it but take precaution and only do it on reputable casino not with those risky our shady ones.
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June 06, 2022, 11:56:36 AM |
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Compare to any other casino which is not been tested over the years I can also say that its quite safe to provide KYC in roobet because their reputation is good assurance that they will not rug or endanger us by leaking our data's in any forums or anywhere.
Even if I trust Roobet 100% and consider my data "safe" at Roobet, this is by no means a guarantee that the data cannot be stolen. There are a lot of possibilities what could happen without Roobet being able to take countermeasures, e.g. a deliberate leak of an administrator. What I want to say is that even if the reputation of a casino is good, you should never assume that the data is safe and nothing can happen to the data.
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Compare to any other casino which is not been tested over the years I can also say that its quite safe to provide KYC in roobet because their reputation is good assurance that they will not rug or endanger us by leaking our data's in any forums or anywhere.
Even if I trust Roobet 100% and consider my data "safe" at Roobet, this is by no means a guarantee that the data cannot be stolen. There are a lot of possibilities what could happen without Roobet being able to take countermeasures, e.g. a deliberate leak of an administrator. What I want to say is that even if the reputation of a casino is good, you should never assume that the data is safe and nothing can happen to the data. That’s collateral damage for our data and no one can really assure the safety of same. It’s not in the Roobets hand whether there is data leak due to an human error or hacks and shit. Well in all these may be they can overcome human errors and have well paid staff to create safe heaven for us but other stuff can always happen. We have seen examples on different sites like exchangers with their 2FA and their over added extra layer of security also had breaches. But as casino site I’m pretty sure roobet is taking well care of our data and privacy. I can vouch for that too and let’s hope this continues Forever.
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I feel that it’s safe to share KYC data with Roobet, because they’re taking extra precautions for protecting the user’s KYC details eg using 256 bit encryption, hence there’s very little chance of KYC details ever getting leaked.
The 256-bit encryption isn't an extra precaution but it is pretty much an industry standard, it's being widely used. You can see that Roobet is using it for the SSL/TLS, so it is surely safe in terms of transmitting any data. Hardly anyone will attack the transport route itself if someone wants to access the data. The encryption of the transmission path therefore plays no/hardly any role. ~ SSL/TLS is the tip of the iceberg regarding security concerns, but surely it does what it needed to do to protect how the data being transmitted. And by what I mean about data is any information that you shared or will share with Roobet and to/within its third party. If it doesn't have any SSL/TLS or only HTTP, not HTTPS, which is more known. Then anyone who monitors the network can see whatever data is being sent, including ISP, governments, NSA, Hacker, or any adversaries you can name.
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KYC has been a thing I disliked and forced into as well, and I dislike it and wish it never happened as well.
I don't think anyone here enjoys KYC, especially not in our "crypot space" where anonymity and independence are very important - otherwise we wouldn't be here. Roobet has certainly not introduced KYC because they would like to have it so much, but most likely have to perform KYC in order to be allowed to operate their website at all. I also fear that KYC will become more and more the standard. First crypto exchanges already refuse the deposit of coins from unregulated gambling platforms (or if the user can't prove where they come from). it'll be a tug of war game with governments asking for more regulation, some websites specially the biggest ones who want to comply and add users and revenue (but not so worried about principles) will just comply and this will open up a huge parallel market making strong DEXes and descentralized casinos for those who wish to remain private.
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Compare to any other casino which is not been tested over the years I can also say that its quite safe to provide KYC in roobet because their reputation is good assurance that they will not rug or endanger us by leaking our data's in any forums or anywhere. For sure in future many platform will require this before registration on every legit casino so people needs to accept it but take precaution and only do it on reputable casino not with those risky our shady ones.
The comparison to Roobet to some unknown casino would make sense, in that situation you should be giving your KYC to roobet instead of gambling in an unknown brand new casino that doesn't ask your KYC, that is understandable. However, if we are talking about known places, that do not ask your KYC as well, then it gets a bit more difficult to make a decision. I am not saying that leave roobet, but I have to say that roobet has a big difficult choice to make and people have the same choice as well. I am not going to name any names because it is a shady thing to do, but there is a HUGE casino in crypto that doesn't ask your KYC for example, roobet needs to give a reason to come here and give it and gamble here.
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As it can be seen from the image they are addressing Ontario players which means they already have players from there who are enjoying their time over there so it's all available in there information page.
And the fact that Roobet addresses the regulation compliance over there should give assurance to the community, we can say that it means that Roobet will follow any regulation that is needed. If some users didn't comfortable passing the KYC level 1 which is required on here, well, unfortunately, they simply shouldn't play on here or try to figure the other way around. This has to do with the issue of acceptance and it is very common, I know that the issue of privacy and anonymity is something that many always want to keep, what happened is that in Rootbet as in any casino platform they have their rules and it is That is why the T&C are so important and infallible to read, which, sometimes we do not read because we want to play quickly on the platform to enjoy the games, and when a certain security scheme needs to be passed, it is when we run into a level of KYC, which is necessary for them, that's where we have to have the maturity to do it or just accept that we can't have more fun here, it's a matter of acceptance, well that's how I see it.
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As it can be seen from the image they are addressing Ontario players which means they already have players from there who are enjoying their time over there so it's all available in there information page.
And the fact that Roobet addresses the regulation compliance over there should give assurance to the community, we can say that it means that Roobet will follow any regulation that is needed. If some users didn't comfortable passing the KYC level 1 which is required on here, well, unfortunately, they simply shouldn't play on here or try to figure the other way around. This has to do with the issue of acceptance and it is very common, I know that the issue of privacy and anonymity is something that many always want to keep, what happened is that in Rootbet as in any casino platform they have their rules and it is That is why the T&C are so important and infallible to read, which, sometimes we do not read because we want to play quickly on the platform to enjoy the games, and when a certain security scheme needs to be passed, it is when we run into a level of KYC, which is necessary for them, that's where we have to have the maturity to do it or just accept that we can't have more fun here, it's a matter of acceptance, well that's how I see it. Before crypto is all about anonymity but since we want to see crypto growing and be adopted also in legal ways then expect KYC is also included on all of that because by its growing adoption for sure many rules changes over the years. Those legit platform has been required to pass a KYC requirements to their users because they are dealing money with them that's why its better that now we should trust platforms ask KYC especially they are old enough and been tusted by so many years of existence. Most provably Roobet are protecting their users privacy as well their business so I guess we are in low risk for submitting what roobet require to us.
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June 08, 2022, 03:03:25 AM |
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If it doesn't have any SSL/TLS or only HTTP, not HTTPS, which is more known. Then anyone who monitors the network can see whatever data is being sent, including ISP, governments, NSA, Hacker, or any adversaries you can name.
As far as I know, highly sensitive data may only be transmitted between different parties via extra-secured data channels, and in addition to HTTPS - which is of course mandatory - separate encryption and certificates are also used or, in extreme cases, must even be transmitted offline. I don't know exactly what this looks like at Roobet, but it would of course be very interesting.
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