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[wheelz1200]

Sorry to ask you, but what makes the Chiefs and the Buccanneers strong contenders for champions? Team? Management? or something like that??

Exactly that, talent and a solid staff without distractions.

They both have great fan bases which helps as well.

Good example of a failed franchise is Greenbay that has 2 out of those 3. Greenbay should have been in the superbowl many times over the last decade but internal strife has kept them from being champions.

Well the bucs is easy...Tom Brady.  Any team he goes on has a chance to go and win the whole thing.  And KC it's their dynamic offense, they can drop points on teams real quick.  Definately slow put of the gate this year but they will fix that.

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[DireWolfM14]

Josh Allen regular season MVP.

Killer hurdle over that defender... that guy can do it all.

I think the tide has just waned on the Mahomes KC dynasty.

I still like his commercials.

That was a decisive win for the Bills, I'm sure they felt like they got a monkey off their collective back.   I'm not counting out the Chiefs just yet.  Their offensive line and defense isn't what it used to be, but that's largely due to a few key injuries.  That could change from week to week.

Ok, Jaguars, Lions, Jets, and Giants can't really win it unless all other teams just give up. That still leaves 28 contenders, and literally half of them will make it into the playoffs.

Dude, now you tell me?  I bet the farm on the god damn Jets.

49ers, YES
49ers, YES
49ers, YES

FIFY.  

ETA:  Gruden is out!  Mark Davis fired him over the Chucky emails. 

[suchmoon]

ETA:  Gruden is out!  Mark Davis fired him over the Chucky emails. 

Maybe Jaguars can hire him to replace Urban Meyer.

[DireWolfM14]

ETA:  Gruden is out!  Mark Davis fired him over the Chucky emails. 

Maybe Jaguars can hire him to replace Urban Meyer.

Literally LOL!

[morvillz7z]

What is this madness???    1 quarter left, Hollywood Brown vs. Ravens D/ST

[suchmoon]

What is this madness???    1 quarter left, Hollywood Brown vs. Ravens D/ST

I was literally trying to post the same screenshot

Sad news for Hueristic, there is very little upside possibility for him.

Edit: ... aaaand -2 points.

Edit2: spectacular comeback by Ravens, helped by Colts FG problems but still massively impressive effort. OT.

[rdbase]

ETA:  Gruden is out!  Mark Davis fired him over the Chucky emails.  

Maybe Jaguars can hire him to replace Urban Meyer.

Literally LOL!

Later a statement, while the Ravens were still mounting their comeback, by Gruden was he resigned as he would "a distraction" to the team.
Yeah you think?

After the Raiders loss over the weekend, the post game interview with him acting casual and brushing it all off saying it was over 11 years so he doesn't remember any of it.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/jon-gruden-emails-resigns-raiders-coach/1f7nbdnxccjat1momv1xkg9bpp

Just that statement by him was damning.

[ChiBitCTy]

ETA:  Gruden is out!  Mark Davis fired him over the Chucky emails.  

Maybe Jaguars can hire him to replace Urban Meyer.

Literally LOL!

Later a statement, while the Ravens were still mounting their comeback, by Gruden was he resigned as he would "a distraction" to the team.
Yeah you think?

After the Raiders loss over the weekend, the post game interview with him acting casual and brushing it all off saying it was over 11 years so he doesn't remember any of it.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/jon-gruden-emails-resigns-raiders-coach/1f7nbdnxccjat1momv1xkg9bpp

Just that statement by him was damning.

Yeah I guess we can't be shocked over seeing Gruden resigning.  And you know things were bad when he did as the Raiders owners absolutely LOVES Jon, as he begged him to come coach his team.  I mean who gives a coach a 10 year contract these days.  That's unheard of.  I was listening to former player of Jon's Keyshawn Johnson who was ripping him saying none of this was any surprise as he's been fake his whole life.  Found that interesting.

[wheelz1200]

ETA:  Gruden is out!  Mark Davis fired him over the Chucky emails.  

Maybe Jaguars can hire him to replace Urban Meyer.

Literally LOL!

Later a statement, while the Ravens were still mounting their comeback, by Gruden was he resigned as he would "a distraction" to the team.
Yeah you think?

After the Raiders loss over the weekend, the post game interview with him acting casual and brushing it all off saying it was over 11 years so he doesn't remember any of it.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/jon-gruden-emails-resigns-raiders-coach/1f7nbdnxccjat1momv1xkg9bpp

Just that statement by him was damning.

Yeah I guess we can't be shocked over seeing Gruden resigning.  And you know things were bad when he did as the Raiders owners absolutely LOVES Jon, as he begged him to come coach his team.  I mean who gives a coach a 10 year contract these days.  That's unheard of.  I was listening to former player of Jon's Keyshawn Johnson who was ripping him saying none of this was any surprise as he's been fake his whole life.  Found that interesting.

That's a whole bunch of money left on the table (I think like $60mil)  people be stupid.

In other news I'm trending the wrong way in ff.  Taking my lumps now.  Need to take a look at next week and getting my team tightened up.

[South Park]

Later a statement, while the Ravens were still mounting their comeback, by Gruden was he resigned as he would "a distraction" to the team.
Yeah you think?

After the Raiders loss over the weekend, the post game interview with him acting casual and brushing it all off saying it was over 11 years so he doesn't remember any of it.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/jon-gruden-emails-resigns-raiders-coach/1f7nbdnxccjat1momv1xkg9bpp

Just that statement by him was damning.

It is such a shame, it finally seemed as if the LV Raiders organization were going somewhere, they are second in their division and the Chiefs seem to be in a down year, this was their opportunity to make a run and then this happens, this is the kind of thing that can really affect a team and it will be interesting to see how they react to his hit, personally I have not being on top of the news and I kinda knew something was going on but I never thought it was this bad, but after seeing it there was no other way out of this than to quit.

[wheelz1200]

Later a statement, while the Ravens were still mounting their comeback, by Gruden was he resigned as he would "a distraction" to the team.
Yeah you think?

After the Raiders loss over the weekend, the post game interview with him acting casual and brushing it all off saying it was over 11 years so he doesn't remember any of it.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/jon-gruden-emails-resigns-raiders-coach/1f7nbdnxccjat1momv1xkg9bpp

Just that statement by him was damning.

It is such a shame, it finally seemed as if the LV Raiders organization were going somewhere, they are second in their division and the Chiefs seem to be in a down year, this was their opportunity to make a run and then this happens, this is the kind of thing that can really affect a team and it will be interesting to see how they react to his hit, personally I have not being on top of the news and I kinda knew something was going on but I never thought it was this bad, but after seeing it there was no other way out of this than to quit.

Yeah this was definately their year.  Looked good all the way around.  Carr looks real good too.  This is definately going to affect their year.  Something like this just kinda hangs around like a bad habit.  I hope they keep it together, will quietly be rooting for them.

[Hueristic]

Who released these emails and why now?

Sounds SUS too me.


I wonder if I am mathematically eliminated yet?

I think if CMc made it back this week I would still have a chance but it looks like I'm done!

[suchmoon]

Who released these emails and why now?

Sounds SUS too me.

The league was looking into WFT for some unrelated reason and came across those e-mails. I don't see anything particularly suspicious about that, except maybe the leak to the media forced the owner's hand but it was just a matter of time anyway I think.

I wonder if I am mathematically eliminated yet?

I think if CMc made it back this week I would still have a chance but it looks like I'm done!

You can't be mathematically eliminated until at least halfway through the season, realistically until game 10 or so, because there will be other teams with quite a few lost games, and you only need to beat 4 other teams to get into the playoffs.

[Hueristic]

Who released these emails and why now?

Sounds SUS too me.

The league was looking into WFT for some unrelated reason and came across those e-mails. I don't see anything particularly suspicious about that, except maybe the leak to the media forced the owner's hand but it was just a matter of time anyway I think.

That explanation doesn't sound kocher to me. I doubt 10 year old emails would pop up on something like that unless it was for a reason. I'm not arguing whether he deserved to get canned only if this was being held back and released for a purpose.

I wonder if I am mathematically eliminated yet?

I think if CMc made it back this week I would still have a chance but it looks like I'm done!

You can't be mathematically eliminated until halfway through the season, realistically at least until game 10 or so, because there will be other teams with quite a few lost games, and you only need to beat 4 other teams to get into the playoffs.

Shit so I have to keep trying I guess,

[suchmoon]

That explanation doesn't sound kocher to me. I doubt 10 year old emails would pop up on something like that unless it was for a reason. I have been in control of those systems so I can say that with some certainty. I'm not arguing whether he deserved to get canned only if this was being held back and released for a purpose.

There was a reason but it was not about Gruden (workplace harrassment complaint about WFT or something like that). If there was someone authorized to look through those e-mails - subpoenaed or whatever - it was probably their obligation to report any concerning materials they may have found.

[Hueristic]

That explanation doesn't sound kocher to me. I doubt 10 year old emails would pop up on something like that unless it was for a reason. I have been in control of those systems so I can say that with some certainty. I'm not arguing whether he deserved to get canned only if this was being held back and released for a purpose.

There was a reason but it was not about Gruden (workplace harrassment complaint about WFT or something like that). If there was someone authorized to look through those e-mails - subpoenaed or whatever - it was probably their obligation to report any concerning materials they may have found.

Be that as it may, I would like to know the particulars because this stinks to high heaven on its face.

Poor raiders fans get fucked continuous, if they are going to use 10 year old emails to destroy an organization then they should be vetting every person in the league before hire.  I think there is something going on we don't know about and Raiders fans are getting the shit end of the stick from the league as usual. The NFL has covered up shit for players and owners for its entire existence and suddenly it gets a conscience on this? I find that laughable. I think it comes down to Roger Goodell taking out an enemy.

[bbc.reporter]

Where are the odds for NFL regular season MVP and rookie of the year be found? It was everywhere last season, however, it appears not a cryptospace sportsbook have them available. They do not want us to bet Josh Allen hehehe. Also, who is a good tight end who can score a minimum of 5 fantasy points?

[South Park]

Later a statement, while the Ravens were still mounting their comeback, by Gruden was he resigned as he would "a distraction" to the team.
Yeah you think?

After the Raiders loss over the weekend, the post game interview with him acting casual and brushing it all off saying it was over 11 years so he doesn't remember any of it.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/jon-gruden-emails-resigns-raiders-coach/1f7nbdnxccjat1momv1xkg9bpp

Just that statement by him was damning.

It is such a shame, it finally seemed as if the LV Raiders organization were going somewhere, they are second in their division and the Chiefs seem to be in a down year, this was their opportunity to make a run and then this happens, this is the kind of thing that can really affect a team and it will be interesting to see how they react to his hit, personally I have not being on top of the news and I kinda knew something was going on but I never thought it was this bad, but after seeing it there was no other way out of this than to quit.

Yeah this was definately their year.  Looked good all the way around.  Carr looks real good too.  This is definately going to affect their year.  Something like this just kinda hangs around like a bad habit.  I hope they keep it together, will quietly be rooting for them.

I hope they do as well but they are in a  difficult division and any single moment of hesitation can be incredibly costly, however the world of FF is ruthless, I had Carr but with what is happening now I do not trust he can get a good performance next game so I dropped him and the LV kicker and got Heinicke and Folk.

And BTW I was about to rage-drop Beckham but at the end I did not, he was part of the highest scoring game so far and yet he scored 2 points during the whole game, he was not a starter so it did not affected me but if he cannot score good points in a game like that then when is he going to do it?

[wheelz1200]

Where are the odds for NFL regular season MVP and rookie of the year be found? It was everywhere last season, however, it appears not a cryptospace sportsbook have them available. They do not want us to bet Josh Allen hehehe. Also, who is a good tight end who can score a minimum of 5 fantasy points?

Ypu can find them on a ton a sportsbooks. I don't play the props so I don't know which ones but I know people play them a ton.  And yeah Josh Allen is definately going to be up there.  Brady gonna be fighting forvp too, 15 tds to 2 int in the first 5 games...and he still gets to play the giants   and as far as tight ends on the area at this point its a crap chute with them.  Hot or miss outside the top tight ends.

[ChiBitCTy]

Where are the odds for NFL regular season MVP and rookie of the year be found? It was everywhere last season, however, it appears not a cryptospace sportsbook have them available. They do not want us to bet Josh Allen hehehe. Also, who is a good tight end who can score a minimum of 5 fantasy points?

Ypu can find them on a ton a sportsbooks. I don't play the props so I don't know which ones but I know people play them a ton.  And yeah Josh Allen is definately going to be up there.  Brady gonna be fighting forvp too, 15 tds to 2 int in the first 5 games...and he still gets to play the giants   and as far as tight ends on the area at this point its a crap chute with them.  Hot or miss outside the top tight ends.

This is an interesting topic because "experts" seem to be all over the place when it comes to who they believe is the frontrunner for the MVP.  I think Josh Allen is personally, but Brady, Murray, Herbert and to a lesser extent Stafford and Dak also have some claim to being in that conversation.  One guy I am not putting on my list is Lamar Jackson.  He's my qb in our btalk league, and I love how he's been playing, but this past game was the first game he threw for more than 1 TD.  There are a couple QBs with twice as many as him.  Sure they don't have the rushing yards he has, but still.  There are some "experts" out there saying he is the unquestioned MVP frontrunner...couldn't disagree more.