🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈

[suchmoon]

I was surprised to see that I clinched.  I hadn't mapped it out but, last week I thought I needed to win both of my last two games to get a spot.  Congrats to you and wheelz, and best of luck to the Muks,  Dogs, and Taco.

You're 2 wins ahead of 5th place so with one match remaining there is no way for you to drop out of top 4. Needing to win the last two might have been true if Dogs didn't lose.

However... Jonathan Taylor is on a bye this week. You have a chance to win this match. But do you want to? Map that one out

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[DireWolfM14]

I was surprised to see that I clinched.  I hadn't mapped it out but, last week I thought I needed to win both of my last two games to get a spot.  Congrats to you and wheelz, and best of luck to the Muks,  Dogs, and Taco.

You're 2 wins ahead of 5th place so with one match remaining there is no way for you to drop out of top 4. Needing to win the last two might have been true if Dogs didn't lose.

However... Jonathan Taylor is on a bye this week. You have a chance to win this match. But do you want to? Map that one out

Are you suggesting I throw the match?  Why, the Gambinos aren't holding my parakeet hostage. 

Oh, I think I see what you're getting at.  If I lose and Taco wins, I'll have to play you in the first round.  If I beat Wheelz this week I'll have to play him again in the first round.  Hmmm, tough call.  Damned if do damned if I don't.  Not that it matters, I never dreamed of winning this league anyway.  Besides, any time you and I match up you seem to have the luck of the gods on your side.

[suchmoon]

Oh, I think I see what you're getting at.  If I lose and Taco wins, I'll have to play you in the first round.  If I beat Wheelz this week I'll have to play him again in the first round.  Hmmm, tough call.  Damned if do damned if I don't.  Not that it matters, I never dreamed of winning this league anyway.  Besides, any time you and I match up you seem to have the luck of the gods on your side.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. The other part of it is the playoff schedule, which I'm mildly confused about. It says "week 15-16" and "week 17-18". Do we play the finals in week 17? Some teams might be resting their top players by then. Might not apply to Colts though.

[South Park]

So what do we have here...



Three teams fighting for one playoff spot. If Taco wins their next game, they're in. Otherwise:

For Elon to get in, they must win and outscore Taco by 18+ points, if I got the tiebreakers right.  Also Dogs must lose, otherwise Elon would have to outscore Dogs by 150 or some such silly amount.

For Dogs to get in, they must win, and they have a huge points lead so that should do it.

Just as there is a competition for the last playoff spot do not forget about the race to the bottom Hueristic and myself are having, after all no one wants the ‘honor’ of being the worst team of the league, due to the tie breakers I have an advantage over Hueristic due to the points scored and it seems large enough so the Psychotics will need a win and a tie or a loss from the Cows, or the Psychotics could get a tie and with a loss of the Cows they could avoid the last position on the standings, so there is a lot at stake during the final game of the regular season.


And about the game of last night, the Bills are in trouble, they cannot run or stop the run, they lose against any team worth anything on the league and I still think their team is not designed to play at Buffalo and their awful weather, so while I think they will make make the playoffs I do not see them winning a single game with those deficiencies.

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Oh, I think I see what you're getting at.  If I lose and Taco wins, I'll have to play you in the first round.  If I beat Wheelz this week I'll have to play him again in the first round.  Hmmm, tough call.  Damned if do damned if I don't.  Not that it matters, I never dreamed of winning this league anyway.  Besides, any time you and I match up you seem to have the luck of the gods on your side.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. The other part of it is the playoff schedule, which I'm mildly confused about. It says "week 15-16" and "week 17-18". Do we play the finals in week 17? Some teams might be resting their top players by then. Might not apply to Colts though.

Yes that is the way the league is structured, however taking a look at my LM tools I can see I can change how long each round lasts, and the semifinals could take place on week 15 while the finals take place on week 16, leaving week 17 and 18 unused, if the members of the league want to change this then we need to vote as soon as possible about this as I do not know if I could change this once the playoffs are about to start.

[morvillz7z]

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Oh, I think I see what you're getting at.  If I lose and Taco wins, I'll have to play you in the first round.  If I beat Wheelz this week I'll have to play him again in the first round.  Hmmm, tough call.  Damned if do damned if I don't.  Not that it matters, I never dreamed of winning this league anyway.  Besides, any time you and I match up you seem to have the luck of the gods on your side.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. The other part of it is the playoff schedule, which I'm mildly confused about. It says "week 15-16" and "week 17-18". Do we play the finals in week 17? Some teams might be resting their top players by then. Might not apply to Colts though.

Yes that is the way the league is structured, however taking a look at my LM tools I can see I can change how long each round lasts, and the semifinals could take place on week 15 while the finals take place on week 16, leaving week 17 and 18 unused, if the members of the league want to change this then we need to vote as soon as possible about this as I do not know if I could change this once the playoffs are about to start.

I don't think changing the settings one week before the regular season ends is a good idea, plus 9ers won't be resting Deebo, they need every win they can get. 

[Hueristic]

Despite the low score it was actually a fun game to watch.  The talent of the individual players really didn't play much into the result, it was all about strategy.

the talent of the Pats Line won that game.

Harris and Stevenson looked really good as well.

I don't think I've ever seen a game with so many runs up the gut.

Just as there is a competition for the last playoff spot do not forget about the race to the bottom Hueristic and myself are having, after all no one wants the ‘honor’ of being the worst team of the league, due to the tie breakers I have an advantage over Hueristic due to the points scored and it seems large enough so the Psychotics will need a win and a tie or a loss from the Cows, or the Psychotics could get a tie and with a loss of the Cows they could avoid the last position on the standings, so there is a lot at stake during the final game of the regular season.

Well all I can say is you better win cause I'm taking those Doggies down!

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Oh, I think I see what you're getting at.  If I lose and Taco wins, I'll have to play you in the first round.  If I beat Wheelz this week I'll have to play him again in the first round.  Hmmm, tough call.  Damned if do damned if I don't.  Not that it matters, I never dreamed of winning this league anyway.  Besides, any time you and I match up you seem to have the luck of the gods on your side.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. The other part of it is the playoff schedule, which I'm mildly confused about. It says "week 15-16" and "week 17-18". Do we play the finals in week 17? Some teams might be resting their top players by then. Might not apply to Colts though.

Yes that is the way the league is structured, however taking a look at my LM tools I can see I can change how long each round lasts, and the semifinals could take place on week 15 while the finals take place on week 16, leaving week 17 and 18 unused, if the members of the league want to change this then we need to vote as soon as possible about this as I do not know if I could change this once the playoffs are about to start.

I don't think changing the settings one week before the regular season ends is a good idea, plus 9ers won't be resting Deebo, they need every win they can get. 

Its an interesting thought experiment on whether we should have considered this pre draft and made our picks with this in mind.

[DireWolfM14]

The other part of it is the playoff schedule, which I'm mildly confused about. It says "week 15-16" and "week 17-18". Do we play the finals in week 17? Some teams might be resting their top players by then. Might not apply to Colts though.

Yes that is the way the league is structured, however taking a look at my LM tools I can see I can change how long each round lasts, and the semifinals could take place on week 15 while the finals take place on week 16, leaving week 17 and 18 unused, if the members of the league want to change this then we need to vote as soon as possible about this as I do not know if I could change this once the playoffs are about to start.

Does this mean that the playoff rounds last two weekends, collecting points over the whole span?  Do we get to change our lineup for the second weekend?

I don't think changing the settings one week before the regular season ends is a good idea, plus 9ers won't be resting Deebo, they need every win they can get.  

I guess I'm confused, but whatever it is I'm okay with leaving it alone.

I don't think I've ever seen a game with so many runs up the gut.

It's pretty common under the Friday night lights, but certainly not in the modern day NFL.

[Hueristic]

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Oh, I think I see what you're getting at.  If I lose and Taco wins, I'll have to play you in the first round.  If I beat Wheelz this week I'll have to play him again in the first round.  Hmmm, tough call.  Damned if do damned if I don't.  Not that it matters, I never dreamed of winning this league anyway.  Besides, any time you and I match up you seem to have the luck of the gods on your side.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. The other part of it is the playoff schedule, which I'm mildly confused about. It says "week 15-16" and "week 17-18". Do we play the finals in week 17? Some teams might be resting their top players by then. Might not apply to Colts though.

Yes that is the way the league is structured, however taking a look at my LM tools I can see I can change how long each round lasts, and the semifinals could take place on week 15 while the finals take place on week 16, leaving week 17 and 18 unused, if the members of the league want to change this then we need to vote as soon as possible about this as I do not know if I could change this once the playoffs are about to start.

I don't think changing the settings one week before the regular season ends is a good idea, plus 9ers won't be resting Deebo, they need every win they can get.  

If there is a vote to be had on this I would vote that only those in the playoffs have a vote.


Also guys I just want to say that this is the most fun I've had getting my ass handed to me in as long as I can remember!!!

Great league and great time, I can't wait for next year and look forward to ChiBitCTy joining us.

[suchmoon]

Does this mean that the playoff rounds last two weekends, collecting points over the whole span?  Do we get to change our lineup for the second weekend?

Wait, what? Now you confused me even more. Two playoff games each round? I thought two weeks were allotted in case there were wildcard games, for larger leagues.

At any rate, I would too suggest to leave the settings as is, it's fine.

[DireWolfM14]

Does this mean that the playoff rounds last two weekends, collecting points over the whole span?  Do we get to change our lineup for the second weekend?

Wait, what? Now you confused me even  more. Two playoff games each round? I thought two weeks were allotted in case there were wildcard games, for larger leagues.

At any rate, I would suggest to leave the settings as is, it's fine.

Oh, that makes more sense.

[suchmoon]

Oh, that makes more sense.

Or does it?

[morvillz7z]

If there is a vote to be had on this I would vote that only those in the playoffs have a vote.

There shouldn't be discussions about changing rules/settings this deep into the season, let alone voting, regardless of who makes the playoffs and who does not.

It's two weeks per playoff matchup, you play the same team twice and add the score. Week 14 end of the reg season and a double week per playoffs round is the default setting for all public FF leagues on ESPN.

For future leagues, we can invite more people, expand from 8 to 12 man, add more IR spots, change the schedule/playoffs etc....all this is done before the draft, not mid-December.

[South Park]

Just as there is a competition for the last playoff spot do not forget about the race to the bottom Hueristic and myself are having, after all no one wants the ‘honor’ of being the worst team of the league, due to the tie breakers I have an advantage over Hueristic due to the points scored and it seems large enough so the Psychotics will need a win and a tie or a loss from the Cows, or the Psychotics could get a tie and with a loss of the Cows they could avoid the last position on the standings, so there is a lot at stake during the final game of the regular season.

Well all I can say is you better win cause I'm taking those Doggies down!

That is the spirit.

If there is a vote to be had on this I would vote that only those in the playoffs have a vote.

I had the intention to abstain as well if there was a voting taking place.

I don't think changing the settings one week before the regular season ends is a good idea, plus 9ers won't be resting Deebo, they need every win they can get. 

I guess I'm confused, but whatever it is I'm okay with leaving it alone.

At any rate, I would too suggest to leave the settings as is, it's fine.

And I agree with all of you but as the LM my job is to play Devil's Advocate from time to time, still, next FF season this is something we need to address from the beginning to avoid any confusion among the league participants.

[Hueristic]

If there is a vote to be had on this I would vote that only those in the playoffs have a vote.

There shouldn't be discussions about changing rules/settings this deep into the season, let alone voting, regardless of who makes the playoffs and who does not.

It's two weeks per playoff matchup, you play the same team twice and add the score. Week 14 end of the reg season and a double week per playoffs round is the default setting for all public FF leagues on ESPN.

For future leagues, we can invite more people, expand from 8 to 12 man, add more IR spots, change the schedule/playoffs etc....all this is done before the draft, not mid-December.

I vote for 25 IR spots!

[wheelz1200]

I'm so confused I will just set my lineup and see what happens.  *That feeling when Towely knows more what's going on then me*

On a football note last night's game was awesome to watch, Pats ran it down their throats with the Bills knowing it and still couldn't stop it, fun times.  Mac Jones 2-3 19 yards and they won lol.

[suchmoon]

On a football note last night's game was awesome to watch, Pats ran it down their throats with the Bills knowing it and still couldn't stop it, fun times.  Mac Jones 2-3 19 yards and they won lol.

Patriots tricked them with that 2-point conversion. Bills could have won it if they didn't chase TDs, twice - two FGs would have done it. Yeah, I know wind etc but still.

Edit: I'm probably wrong, they did try and miss an FG, and only then turned one drive over on downs. Not so much a trick then, but that early 2-pointer did win the game for Patriots.

[Hueristic]

On a football note last night's game was awesome to watch, Pats ran it down their throats with the Bills knowing it and still couldn't stop it, fun times.  Mac Jones 2-3 19 yards and they won lol.

Patriots tricked them with that 2-point conversion. Bills could have won it if they didn't chase TDs, twice - two FGs would have done it. Yeah, I know wind etc but still.

They missed their first FG attempt from extra point range after getting goaline stopped.

[suchmoon]

They missed their first FG attempt from extra point range after getting goaline stopped.

You're right, I just edited my post a few seconds ago. Still a good strategy with that two-point play.

[Hueristic]

They missed their first FG attempt from extra point range after getting goaline stopped.

You're right, I just edited my post a few seconds ago. Still a good strategy with that two-point play.

Yeah it was pretty cool, I was a little surprised at the time but thats why bill is a great coach I guess.

[wheelz1200]

They missed their first FG attempt from extra point range after getting goaline stopped.

You're right, I just edited my post a few seconds ago. Still a good strategy with that two-point play.

Yeah it was pretty cool, I was a little surprised at the time but thats why bill is a great coach I guess.

I think percentage wise he knew he had a better chance to score on the ground then to kick it.  Probably was playing any extra point like that knowing if he hit 1 out of 2 basically would equal hitting both extra points.  That wind was serious.  Even the field goals they hit them things were kick it and cross fingers no big gust came through that second.  Bill is old school so he probably loved that win more than any other one so far this year.