🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[execijutiere]

BlameF and dev1ce are the ones I am really looking forward to in CS:2. They have the experience and the grit compared to these new comers in the scene. B0rup also has that raw aim and mechanical skills to be the entry fragger that Astralis lacked for their previous iterations since the departure of the legends (xyp9x, magisk, gla1ve). Well, they still have dev1ce for his aggressive awping and IGL skills, but it'll be a hard task for buzz and staehr to prove they deserve to be in the team that once dominated the entire CS:GO scene.

If dev1ce will be both awper and IGL, we can say that he preferred to be like a cadian. Thus, they increased their firepower. Both bORUP and Staehr are good players, especially we can say that staehr is the form player of recent times who has been on the rise with sprout. Buzz will be more in the support role, I guess I can't say much for buzz, but I have great expectations from Staehr.

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Mate, it's totally boring and one-sided, while watching it I knew it when it was likely about to end. Team Secret has done it perfectly because they've got the Medusa and the game needs to be long but Nigma doesn't like to push that much because they're also going on with the long game. That very last push Nigma did on the bottom tower of Team Secret, after attacking and throwing some skills, they're quick to TP but then Puppey's enigma was there and all of them(3) got blackholed.

I didn’t finish the game because it’s so damn slow and full of farming. But as I predicted, Nigma Sven failed to reach Medusa and it punish them big time when Dusa already have lock item since his split shot is very painful specially for the backlines that already in range due dragon lance enhance range. I watch the replay and Nigma doesn’t even close on taking down Medusa since he is always being controlled by Blackhole when he is trying to close the gap.

Pretty one sided but still props to Nigma for making this game very long.They have a chance if Sven can wieout the backlines which didn’t happened.

I thought that they can have some chance against it but no way. And for this MENA qualifier, the winner as Quest Esports. And for the champ of the Dream League Season 20 is none other the Gaimin Gladiators. Dude, this team is unbeatable every stage tournaments.
Honestly, I want them not to win this DL20 because they've been dominating all of these teams, somebody stop them. Now next, the Bali major which will happen on Thursday. GG is also participating there.

[dothebeats]

BlameF and dev1ce are the ones I am really looking forward to in CS:2. They have the experience and the grit compared to these new comers in the scene. B0rup also has that raw aim and mechanical skills to be the entry fragger that Astralis lacked for their previous iterations since the departure of the legends (xyp9x, magisk, gla1ve). Well, they still have dev1ce for his aggressive awping and IGL skills, but it'll be a hard task for buzz and staehr to prove they deserve to be in the team that once dominated the entire CS:GO scene.

If dev1ce will be both awper and IGL, we can say that he preferred to be like a cadian. Thus, they increased their firepower. Both bORUP and Staehr are good players, especially we can say that staehr is the form player of recent times who has been on the rise with sprout. Buzz will be more in the support role, I guess I can't say much for buzz, but I have great expectations from Staehr.

I might even go as far as saying that dev1ce is a better IGL and AWPer than Cadian, it's just that he's not having the right mix of teammates to help him achieve the top that he's supposed to be at with his skillset. Staehr, I have seen some highlights here and there, although it's too early to call that he'll fit right in. Buzz, hmm, a support role is a very flexible role, and usually something an IGL would do but we'll see what value will the guy add to Astralis.

[arallmuus]

Honestly, I want them not to win this DL20 because they've been dominating all of these teams, somebody stop them. Now next, the Bali major which will happen on Thursday. GG is also participating there.

Well in DL20, they were not really dominating at all though. In fact they were quite shabby in the group stage especially on the 2nd group stage because Betboom and PSG.LGD were dominating that group stage. They also made it to the 3rd map both against Talon and PSG.LGD which kinda indicate that they could have lost the game

[ralle14]

Well in DL20, they were not really dominating at all though. In fact they were quite shabby in the group stage especially on the 2nd group stage because Betboom and PSG.LGD were dominating that group stage. They also made it to the 3rd map both against Talon and PSG.LGD which kinda indicate that they could have lost the game

It was the same for the grand finals, and during the final game, it all boils down to that one crucial team fight. They're starting to show some cracks and other teams are catching up, but they still have that clutch factor in them when needed.

Beastcoast might be in trouble now that they removed K1 from their roster and Parker will probably take that spot since he stood in for beastcoast during the Dreamleague tournament. They also lost a few hundred points after releasing K1 and now would need a 5th or 6th finish to qualify.

[execijutiere]

BlameF and dev1ce are the ones I am really looking forward to in CS:2. They have the experience and the grit compared to these new comers in the scene. B0rup also has that raw aim and mechanical skills to be the entry fragger that Astralis lacked for their previous iterations since the departure of the legends (xyp9x, magisk, gla1ve). Well, they still have dev1ce for his aggressive awping and IGL skills, but it'll be a hard task for buzz and staehr to prove they deserve to be in the team that once dominated the entire CS:GO scene.

If dev1ce will be both awper and IGL, we can say that he preferred to be like a cadian. Thus, they increased their firepower. Both bORUP and Staehr are good players, especially we can say that staehr is the form player of recent times who has been on the rise with sprout. Buzz will be more in the support role, I guess I can't say much for buzz, but I have great expectations from Staehr.

I might even go as far as saying that dev1ce is a better IGL and AWPer than Cadian, it's just that he's not having the right mix of teammates to help him achieve the top that he's supposed to be at with his skillset. Staehr, I have seen some highlights here and there, although it's too early to call that he'll fit right in. Buzz, hmm, a support role is a very flexible role, and usually something an IGL would do but we'll see what value will the guy add to Astralis.

dev1ce's experience and talent are indisputable, but I can say that time will tell.Maybe he chose his teammates himself, we don't know that.Only dev1ce is left from the old Astralis roster and a roster may have been created according to his wishes.Time and tournaments will show us that.No player can adapt quickly because their game plans may not match each other at first.I am also skeptical about Buzz, but he can be a good support player.

[boyptc]

Anyone who's watching the match of Nigma.Galaxy and Team Secret ME for the Riyadh masters MENA qualifier?

The 2nd map was quite funny that the tally of the score is like that Team Secret just played with some AI, for real. Kuro doesn't really fit anymore to play, as on this match he played carry.

This is expected because they drafted their hero like an AI. They doesn’t any good setter except for Puck and Void which both use ultimate and high cooldown while Secret hero has a lot of AoE control that will surely bully faceless void once he got caught. Kuro drafting is the main problem of Nigma.

Game 3 is on the way, Nigma finally have a decent draft. But I'm not sure if their Sven pick can reach Medusa on team fight. I like Secret draft.

I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

And then, Secret lost against Quest.

Quest = going to the Riyadh to join other qualified teams for this huge stack and prize pool tournament.

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

--> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2023

[jakelyson]

I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

They like playing, we cannot blame them. They had played their whole life, so maybe for them, it is really hard to give up what they have been doing for a long time.  But you are right, Kuroky should think of transitioning into coaching or just be plain owner of a team. They were badly beaten by Secret in that game. They do not have the firepower to go against the hero of Secret. If Sven dies, they cannot fight anymore. That is just a bad draft for me and bad execution. Maybe we will see Kuro in the sideline in the near future coaching.

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

Yeah, Evil Geniuses, PSG.LGD, Talon, and Team Spirit got into Riyadh Masters because Gaimin Gladiator won Dream League Season 20. Gaimin Gladiator are still in a roll and I am expecting them to be heavy favorite this coming TI. Unless other teams figure out how to stop them, they will win the next TI.

[dothebeats]

Anyone who's watching the match of Nigma.Galaxy and Team Secret ME for the Riyadh masters MENA qualifier?

The 2nd map was quite funny that the tally of the score is like that Team Secret just played with some AI, for real. Kuro doesn't really fit anymore to play, as on this match he played carry.

This is expected because they drafted their hero like an AI. They doesn’t any good setter except for Puck and Void which both use ultimate and high cooldown while Secret hero has a lot of AoE control that will surely bully faceless void once he got caught. Kuro drafting is the main problem of Nigma.

Game 3 is on the way, Nigma finally have a decent draft. But I'm not sure if their Sven pick can reach Medusa on team fight. I like Secret draft.

I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

And then, Secret lost against Quest.

Quest = going to the Riyadh to join other qualified teams for this huge stack and prize pool tournament.

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

--> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2023

Kuro should have transitioned a long time ago. He's still in-denial that he's no longer effective as a player and should just go to the sidelines and coach. His vast knowledge on the game will greatly contribute to the team and help them achieve better placings on tournaments. He doesn't have to be pressured on his performance as a player if he goes into coaching, and Nigma would really benefit from this but yea, he's so selfish and he doesn't want to let go of the limelight.

[execijutiere]

We have to say that there are important changes in Liquid.EligE, who has been playing in the team for a long time, said goodbye.nitro also said goodbye earlier, and Rainwaker and Patsi replaced these two.Thus, liquid created a mixed team.I don't know if it will be successful, but it seems that these players may take a little more time to get used to each other.EligE, who left Liquid, joined Complexity.I think Complexity will get stronger with this transfer.They can also transfer a better player instead of JT.

[boyptc]

I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

They like playing, we cannot blame them. They had played their whole life, so maybe for them, it is really hard to give up what they have been doing for a long time.  But you are right, Kuroky should think of transitioning into coaching or just be plain owner of a team. They were badly beaten by Secret in that game. They do not have the firepower to go against the hero of Secret. If Sven dies, they cannot fight anymore. That is just a bad draft for me and bad execution. Maybe we will see Kuro in the sideline in the near future coaching.

Yeah, that's understandable for him but I hope that he'll take what's done by notail that even it's still good that he can play, he turned out of the space and just acts now in the backend of his team, OG.

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

Yeah, Evil Geniuses, PSG.LGD, Talon, and Team Spirit got into Riyadh Masters because Gaimin Gladiator won Dream League Season 20. Gaimin Gladiator are still in a roll and I am expecting them to be heavy favorite this coming TI. Unless other teams figure out how to stop them, they will win the next TI.

I think that many teams are studying on how to be against them. They're sychronized team and undefeated and if no patch will happen for this upcoming Bali major then they will still dominate it.

But for the TI, I think a patch is necessary as always.

I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

And then, Secret lost against Quest.

Quest = going to the Riyadh to join other qualified teams for this huge stack and prize pool tournament.

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

--> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2023

Kuro should have transitioned a long time ago. He's still in-denial that he's no longer effective as a player and should just go to the sidelines and coach. His vast knowledge on the game will greatly contribute to the team and help them achieve better placings on tournaments. He doesn't have to be pressured on his performance as a player if he goes into coaching, and Nigma would really benefit from this but yea, he's so selfish and he doesn't want to let go of the limelight.

Can't be denied, he think that he can still play and win against these young talents that are on their prime. Well, kuro is pass his prime and that's why he needs transition.

He should just get out of pos 5 and play as a coach.

[execijutiere]

Electronic and Perfecto, who left NaVi, signed with C9.The contribution of these 2 players to the team will be high.I think they will strengthen as a team when two more experienced names like perfecto and electronic are added to the good play of sh1ro and Ax1le in the team.I think buster and hobb1t will leave the team and a completely Russian roster will be created.
In the OG team, k1to and FASHR were added instead of degster and NEOFRAG.I think they decided to make such a change when there was no success in OG.Currently, nexa has been on the bench for a long time and it looks like he will take the IGL again.Only F1KU was left from the old squad and we can say that they will embark on new adventures with 4 new players.

[rdbase]

Electronic and Perfecto, who left NaVi, signed with C9.The contribution of these 2 players to the team will be high.I think they will strengthen as a team when two more experienced names like perfecto and electronic are added to the good play of sh1ro and Ax1le in the team.I think buster and hobb1t will leave the team and a completely Russian roster will be created.
In the OG team, k1to and FASHR were added instead of degster and NEOFRAG.I think they decided to make such a change when there was no success in OG.Currently, nexa has been on the bench for a long time and it looks like he will take the IGL again.Only F1KU was left from the old squad and we can say that they will embark on new adventures with 4 new players.

I was shocked by these roster changes for those CS:GO teams being announced early yesterday.
The most significant one was EligE leaving Team Liquid because he is their team leader and has been for many years. As long as I can think of when I first started watching counterstrike he was the face of Team Liquid.
Just unbelievable with these roster changes on Navi and also hearing Fallen would be leaving Imperial Esports for Furia.

[execijutiere]

Electronic and Perfecto, who left NaVi, signed with C9.The contribution of these 2 players to the team will be high.I think they will strengthen as a team when two more experienced names like perfecto and electronic are added to the good play of sh1ro and Ax1le in the team.I think buster and hobb1t will leave the team and a completely Russian roster will be created.
In the OG team, k1to and FASHR were added instead of degster and NEOFRAG.I think they decided to make such a change when there was no success in OG.Currently, nexa has been on the bench for a long time and it looks like he will take the IGL again.Only F1KU was left from the old squad and we can say that they will embark on new adventures with 4 new players.

I was shocked by these roster changes for those CS:GO teams being announced early yesterday.
The most significant one was EligE leaving Team Liquid because he is their team leader and has been for many years. As long as I can think of when I first started watching counterstrike he was the face of Team Liquid.
Just unbelievable with these roster changes on Navi and also hearing Fallen would be leaving Imperial Esports for Furia.

EligE was the only player on the team who played well and gave a lot of effort and years to this team.It's not nice that he left the team in such a quiet and strange way.EligE's performance is one of the reasons why the team has not disappeared so far.I started to like the Liquid team because of EligE, but now there is no longer a name I will support there.
I was expecting such a change in NaVi, because s1mple is an ambitious and hungry for success, so it's a fact that the team has made him negative, and he may have even wanted this change himself.When you have a player like s1mple, you don't want to lose him.
Fallen, on the other hand, wants to leave Imperial and join Furia, which is stronger, because he wants to see more success in more tournaments. Since he is a name that can play both IGL and Awper, it is sure to be an important development for Furia. They need to make a radical change in the team.They can achieve success with a better trio instead of drop, saffee and arT. One of them will most likely be fallen.

[tusandii]

We have to say that there are important changes in Liquid.EligE, who has been playing in the team for a long time, said goodbye.nitro also said goodbye earlier, and Rainwaker and Patsi replaced these two.Thus, liquid created a mixed team.I don't know if it will be successful, but it seems that these players may take a little more time to get used to each other.EligE, who left Liquid, joined Complexity.I think Complexity will get stronger with this transfer.They can also transfer a better player instead of JT.

Changes in players can actually make it more difficult for a team to be able to have a solid way of playing.
But if changing players can always be balanced by practicing more consistently and being able to understand each other then it is also possible that a team can play better.
Liquid is a team that has very good cohesiveness and even each of them can understand each other and know what to do if they are in a match, so hopefully with a few changes it won't make Liquid experience difficulties in every match they will have.

[execijutiere]

In Sangal, the second biggest Turkish organization, changes have begun.Kory and scrunk became bench players.I think Kory's contract expired while scrunk became bench player because his performance was not liked.Phzy was bench player before and was replaced by panix.I am curious to see what kind of roster restructuring will happen now.Will foreign players be replaced again or will Turkish players be added?

[passwordnow]

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

[dothebeats]

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

It's a cut throat competition in Europe, always has been especially when the road to TI is closing in. They would really have to grind it out in the open qualifiers against teams that are relatively unknown but are also strong. There are a lot of those teams in Europe too, especially pros and pubstars that weren't signed by a team prior to TI. A lot of grinding and a lot of practice would be needed by this current iteration of Alliance if they want to join TI for this year, that's for sure.

[arallmuus]

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2

Well not that I care of, they had it coming miles away. They were having issue since last years but so far they havent really made any improvement at all. Im not sure who is the coach for Alliance but Loda was probably behind it, he is really not suitable to be coaching though. Alliance also had the chance to sign complete Old. G roster but they choose not to


16 games tomorrow for the first day of The Major. Im still sticking with all draws method on all these 16 games then see if this is going to be worth it

[passwordnow]

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2

Well not that I care of, they had it coming miles away. They were having issue since last years but so far they havent really made any improvement at all. Im not sure who is the coach for Alliance but Loda was probably behind it, he is really not suitable to be coaching though. Alliance also had the chance to sign complete Old. G roster but they choose not to

It's likely that Loda is still the coach.

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

It's a cut throat competition in Europe, always has been especially when the road to TI is closing in. They would really have to grind it out in the open qualifiers against teams that are relatively unknown but are also strong. There are a lot of those teams in Europe too, especially pros and pubstars that weren't signed by a team prior to TI. A lot of grinding and a lot of practice would be needed by this current iteration of Alliance if they want to join TI for this year, that's for sure.

They need another change and whatever that will be depends on the management and s4 is still playing though. But I think that he is past his prime and that's one thing needs to be considered. He's still one of the original roster of Alliance but just as the other old teams as NaVi that's struggling, they really need to grind a lot and sign those pubstars and young talents that they may want to gamble.