🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[ralle14]

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

Their roster didn't seem promising, but it was surprising when they performed better than expected because they were always one series win short from getting promoted to Div 1. The competition got harder during Tour 3 as the new teams from the open qualifiers had a few familiar names and PuckChamp selling their slot to Old G. They only have to go through the closed qualifiers for the next DPC season, and they should qualify easily since they're most likely replacing someone from their roster.

[passwordnow]

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

Their roster didn't seem promising, but it was surprising when they performed better than expected because they were always one series win short from getting promoted to Div 1. The competition got harder during Tour 3 as the new teams from the open qualifiers had a few familiar names and PuckChamp selling their slot to Old G. They only have to go through the closed qualifiers for the next DPC season, and they should qualify easily since they're most likely replacing someone from their roster.

Can't wait if there will be an announcement from them if they'll replace someone or if they wholly gonna clean this roster while s4 will remain as the team captain.

Speaking of the Bali major, too many games have passed and did you guys also follow some of the games? One noticeable game was GG and 9Pandas, GG really bullied 9Pandas. It's like Quinn telling ramzes on my mind, ramdog!!

[tusandii]

It's a cut throat competition in Europe, always has been especially when the road to TI is closing in. They would really have to grind it out in the open qualifiers against teams that are relatively unknown but are also strong. There are a lot of those teams in Europe too, especially pros and pubstars that weren't signed by a team prior to TI. A lot of grinding and a lot of practice would be needed by this current iteration of Alliance if they want to join TI for this year, that's for sure.

The competition will be even tougher considering that the TI tournament is only a few months away and there will be strong big teams and underdogs competing for a place in the ongoing qualifiers.
Yes, Europe has quite a lot of strong teams and they always play well and even some European teams manage to surprise each year by successfully qualifying.
TI has become the biggest tournament with fantastic prizes so that this one tournament is the pinnacle of the tournament you have been waiting for and it is an extraordinary honor to win it.

[arallmuus]

The competition got harder during Tour 3 as the new teams from the open qualifiers had a few familiar names and PuckChamp selling their slot to Old G. They only have to go through the closed qualifiers for the next DPC season, and they should qualify easily since they're most likely replacing someone from their roster.

I think the main problem wouldnt be that because the next TI qualifier is approaching and iirc only team registered in division 1 and 2 gets to play in the qualifiers which means Alliance wont be able to get their shot on the next qualifier. Well not that Im expecting them to win but atleast they get a shot at it but now they couldnt though


So anyone else ended up getting all draws for 16 games today as well?

[Trofo]

What a game between GG and Quest, over 120 minutes, back and forth. Rapiers lying around the map and nobody even having slots to fit them in... Never watched something like this before. And it was my first game in Bali Major

Hopefully rest of them will deliver as well.

[sunsilk]

What a game between GG and Quest, over 120 minutes, back and forth. Rapiers lying around the map and nobody even having slots to fit them in... Never watched something like this before. And it was my first game in Bali Major

Hopefully rest of them will deliver as well.

That's crazy, we're just still at the first day but the day is going to end with a satisfying match from these two teams. They're the last match for this day 1 and we're just heading on to their map 2.

All of them are full items and even the pos 4 and pos 5 for both teams. I'd always love to see long games like this and see someone wear giant's ring.

GG's to both team.

Will GG take the 2nd map? We'll see.

[passwordnow]

What a game between GG and Quest, over 120 minutes, back and forth. Rapiers lying around the map and nobody even having slots to fit them in... Never watched something like this before. And it was my first game in Bali Major

Hopefully rest of them will deliver as well.

The game ended in 136 minutes. DRs were just free all over the map and all of them are level 30. I think this is again the first time that GG was able to have hardship and difficulty in playing on any team. I guess we're seeing that hope with Quest Esports. They're a dominant team, with new names and faces on Division 1 except ATF of course. All of the heroes were packed with Aghanim's blessing and shard and as well as moon shard. Such a long game but not boring at all because you'll never know what will happen next.

[Balmain]

How will he fit into the FlameZ Vitality roster. Do you think FlameZ can adapt new team Vitality? FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career.

FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career. Vitality moved very quickly in the FlameZ transfer, it was an aggressive transfer. I think he will fit in, he has another friend from his own country in the team, this great advantage will not feel too foreign to him.

Dupreeh is currently inactive, let's see if he will become the sixth player or sign another team. Danish legendary player.



For those who want to review statistics. Valid data is not bad according to an entryfragger player.


https://clips.twitch.tv/BlueDullHorseradishSaltBae-5o6aik75H5b8FCaP

Jumping from the Palace on the Mirage map in this scene. It's awesome that he hits two connector players on his way to take ct.


Source : https://www.hltv.org/news/36536/stat-check-how-will-flamez-fit-into-vitality

[LGD2Business]

How will he fit into the FlameZ Vitality roster. Do you think FlameZ can adapt new team Vitality? FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career.

FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career. Vitality moved very quickly in the FlameZ transfer, it was an aggressive transfer. I think he will fit in, he has another friend from his own country in the team, this great advantage will not feel too foreign to him.

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https://clips.twitch.tv/BlueDullHorseradishSaltBae-5o6aik75H5b8FCaP

Jumping from the Palace on the Mirage map in this scene. It's awesome that he hits two connector players on his way to buy ct.

What kind of game is this? I missed that. As such, aggressive Mirage T gameplay isn't something we see very often. FlameZ played really well.
Team Vitality strengthens the champion roster. FlameZ seems like a good choice over dupreeh. Having another Israeli Spinx in the team is also an advantage for him. There will be no compatibility issues.

Meanwhile, NAVI has formed a new team and they are going to have a special show match with Team Vitality. This match will be played on July 8th. This match will also be good to see the latest status of the teams.
Match announcement: https://twitter.com/ggbet_en/status/1674377438250381312

[boltz]

Crazy first day in Dota 2 Bali Major right ? Teams who were expect to perform they are not performing and vice-versa. I think the worst team right now in this major might by EG but they are already qualified for TI so I suppose testing some strategies here and there will do them good in long term but for bettors...oh , they lost a lot today as I saw Twitch chat going nuts on EG.

Then , I said a week ago that Liquid was sand bagging so hard in DreamLeague season 20 and literally they had no desire to play dota but in this Major , Liquid slowly but surely are doing TI drafts already with some crazy strategies based on universal heroes so eyes on their drafts because they can offer a lot of intel for TI drafts.

[arallmuus]

So anyone else ended up getting all draws for 16 games today as well?

So this ended up with 8 draws for the day which is pretty decent because most of the draws got over 2x odds and one of it ended up with 3.2x



Kudos to Nouns for getting this draw therefore I got slight profit from betting all draws. Taking another shot tomorrow except for 9p vs Nouns, I took 9p to win against Nouns in this match

[dothebeats]

Crazy first day in Dota 2 Bali Major right ? Teams who were expect to perform they are not performing and vice-versa. I think the worst team right now in this major might by EG but they are already qualified for TI so I suppose testing some strategies here and there will do them good in long term but for bettors...oh , they lost a lot today as I saw Twitch chat going nuts on EG.

Then , I said a week ago that Liquid was sand bagging so hard in DreamLeague season 20 and literally they had no desire to play dota but in this Major , Liquid slowly but surely are doing TI drafts already with some crazy strategies based on universal heroes so eyes on their drafts because they can offer a lot of intel for TI drafts.

I don't think either of those teams are trying out TI strategies. There might be a minor patch after the Lima Major so probably that would disrupt things as they are right now. Maybe they know that it's just the first day and they want to measure some strategies that they have for the Major on the first teams that they will be matched with. Usually in these teams, they suddenly play well when the groups are already arranged, so assuming that this is what they're doing, it's safe to say that it's not that bad to bet on draws for all the matches for Day 1 and you'll still come out even or with some profit.

[ralle14]

I think the main problem wouldnt be that because the next TI qualifier is approaching and iirc only team registered in division 1 and 2 gets to play in the qualifiers which means Alliance wont be able to get their shot on the next qualifier. Well not that Im expecting them to win but atleast they get a shot at it but now they couldnt though

They might be included if Valve decides to apply the previous system of the qualifiers because it'll be based on the placements they get during Tour 3 (from 1st to 8th). Anyway, I also don't expect them to win one of the two qualifier spots that's why i'm more focused on them getting a new player (or more) for the next season.

Crazy first day in Dota 2 Bali Major right ? Teams who were expect to perform they are not performing and vice-versa. I think the worst team right now in this major might by EG but they are already qualified for TI so I suppose testing some strategies here and there will do them good in long term but for bettors...oh , they lost a lot today as I saw Twitch chat going nuts on EG.

I guess their midlaner Chris Luck or C Smile still hasn't recovered from Dreamleague because he's been performing inconsistently when I watch their games.

[execijutiere]

How will he fit into the FlameZ Vitality roster. Do you think FlameZ can adapt new team Vitality? FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career.

FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career. Vitality moved very quickly in the FlameZ transfer, it was an aggressive transfer. I think he will fit in, he has another friend from his own country in the team, this great advantage will not feel too foreign to him.

Dupreeh is currently inactive, let's see if he will become the sixth player or sign another team. Danish legendary player.



For those who want to review statistics. Valid data is not bad according to an entryfragger player.


https://clips.twitch.tv/BlueDullHorseradishSaltBae-5o6aik75H5b8FCaP

Jumping from the Palace on the Mirage map in this scene. It's awesome that he hits two connector players on his way to take ct.


Source : https://www.hltv.org/news/36536/stat-check-how-will-flamez-fit-into-vitality

Spinx is a player from the same country and I think he will do his best to help his new teammate adapt to the team faster.FlameZ is a young and talented player, so I think he will get used to the team quickly, even if it is difficult at first.He has increased himself in terms of performance in the OG team in a very good way and has managed to enter the transfer list of other teams.I think Vitality's recruitment of him instead of dupreeh is a good move for Vitality and we can easily say that Vitality has become stronger in terms of firepower.
Dupreeh's only achievement is that he participated in all the majors.Now that the last major of CS:GO is over and they have won, maybe he might think about retiring.Or he might think about forming a casual team with his former teammates who left astralis.Time will tell us.Currently xyp9x,gla1ve and dupreeh stand out as the Danish players who are available.

[slaman29]

Holy shit I just read the last page and didn't understand anything. It looks like arallmuus is a secret DOTA expert also, now I know if I ever promote back to BSFL in Division 1 to watch out for him.

I thought I will try to come in here and get some tips next time around since you all seem to know what you're talking about.

I saw mentioning about regions being tough, Indonesia is the toughest? Or where?

[inthelongrun]

Holy shit I just read the last page and didn't understand anything. It looks like arallmuus is a secret DOTA expert also, now I know if I ever promote back to BSFL in Division 1 to watch out for him.

I thought I will try to come in here and get some tips next time around since you all seem to know what you're talking about.

I saw mentioning about regions being tough, Indonesia is the toughest? Or where?

Yeah, one of the most active here if not the best. So there are DOTA 2 questions in the tournament? Would've loved to join the tournament but it'll mess up my sleep.

In DOTA 2 there are only 6 regions. North America, South America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, China, and Southeast Asia. A team can have players from different regions. There are a lot of Indonesian players from different teams but unluckily there are none of them able to qualify for this Bali major which is the last of the 3 majors this season. The final event of this season will be this coming month of October, known as The International.

Current rankings (site is also very helpful if you want to track E-sports): https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Dota_Pro_Circuit/2023/Rankings

[dothebeats]

I saw mentioning about regions being tough, Indonesia is the toughest? Or where?

If you're looking for the toughest regions, you'll be looking at Southeast Asia (SEA), China, and West Europe. These are the hardest regions to thrive in as a pro team, especially WEU given how many pros are concentrated on that particular region and how good the organizations are. China, you are looking at organizations that are basically just giving points to each other depending on the tournament for them to get the best teams on TI. SEA, well, they aren't really the best region, but the skill level of the teams in this region are basically on par with each other that's why the qualifiers are always hard to decide which team will pop off and which ones will play poorly.

[execijutiere]

Mouz started to renew their roster after failures.I wonder who MOUZ will include in the squad after parting ways with JDC and dexter respectively.Dexter was already a really inadequate player for this team and I didn't expect him to get so much time in the team. maybe they can promote 2 people from the youth team to the main team again, but this may not be a move that will increase their success, so I think they will choose among the players who are currently available.

[dbshck]

Meanwhile, NAVI has formed a new team and they are going to have a special show match with Team Vitality. This match will be played on July 8th. This match will also be good to see the latest status of the teams.
Match announcement: https://twitter.com/ggbet_en/status/1674377438250381312

It's official! Navi made the announcement yesterday, revealing their new lineup. Aleksib, iM, and jL will be joining the team, replacing Electronic, Perfecto, and npl. I'm glad to see that they've brought in a proper IGL. Also, iM's impressive 1.35 rating in the last major makes his inclusion a great choice. I can't wait to see their performance in the upcoming Blast Fall group. Hopefully, Aleksib can bring the most out of this star-studded roster.

[execijutiere]

It's official! Navi made the announcement yesterday, revealing their new lineup. Aleksib, iM, and jL will be joining the team, replacing Electronic, Perfecto, and npl. I'm glad to see that they've brought in a proper IGL. Also, iM's impressive 1.35 rating in the last major makes his inclusion a great choice. I can't wait to see their performance in the upcoming Blast Fall group. Hopefully, Aleksib can bring the most out of this star-studded roster.

It was understood from the performance shown in the last tournaments that s1mple was not satisfied with the roster and NaVi was going to make a good change.NaVi is now building a very good roster with these 3 changes.s1mple and b1t are already the best of the team and the addition of the recent form players jL and iM can be a step towards becoming a superpower for them.I think they have a very strong roster and they can do a good job under the leadership of Aleksib.