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July 07, 2023, 12:10:29 AM
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Im not even sure if the team will terminate his contract after this foollish thing that he had done
Their rulebook did mention that he could be banned for five years and maybe Valve will be the one to give the punishment after the major.

The only pre-live bet i'm confident for today is Team Liquid and i'll live bet the other three. Also, the over 2.5 might be a play worth considering when all of the playoff series have gone 2-1, except for the Betboom series that got voided.




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July 07, 2023, 05:08:28 AM
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We can say that the break for CS:GO tournaments will end soon and good tournaments will start.First of all, we will start with the ESL Pro League qualifiers.I want Eternal Fire to take the spot in the European qualifier.Hoping that Eternal Fire has had a good preparation period, I can say that when we look at their opponents in the group, I can say that there is not a very strong opponent to push them.They have the potential to beat them all and I think they can handle it with hard work.IGL maj3r's daughter was sick, but I hope this does not demoralize him or it may reflect badly on the team.

It has been a month since Eternal Fire played an official match. They played in the ESL Turkey Championship and won the tournament as well. This might be some incentive for them to play better in the ESL Pro League qualifiers as well hopefully. I hope they took an advantage of this long break and improved their team play more. Because it has always been the main problem for Eternal Fire. They didn't have solid strategies as a team and they were relying on some player to step up and carry the team too much.

If the team continue to be disappointed in big tournaments then I believe they need bigger changes in the roster just as NaVi have done recently.
If Eternal Fire is not well prepared for this tournament, it is certain that they will be lynched by their fans.They have built a good roster now and when we compare it to their old roster, we can say that they are at the top level as firepower.Xantares is already the most talented and most experienced name at the head of the team.Wicadia was introduced as the new xantares. There is no need to talk about Woxic's awp performance.Calyx and maj3r are already players at a certain level.If there is no success with this squad, it will be sad for the Turkish CS community.No matter how much you change this squad, I think that mental and egos should be put aside as a priority.Everyone should stop acting according to their own head and take instructions from a person.

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July 07, 2023, 11:35:16 AM
Last edit: July 07, 2023, 12:49:57 PM by len01
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the prediction I made maybe a little silly but for me it will be better. for me Team Aster is not a team that has a fast game pattern and from my previous bets I always get total kill wins and all of them are over 42.5


edit : according to my predictions. today is mine



Team Liquid vs Tundra


from the results of match map 1 both teams managed to get a total of more than 42.5 kills and I will take as usual over 42.5

and it's possible that Liquid in this second map has the possibility of winning so there are a total of 3 maps. not investment advice and risks are always present.



edit : epic comeback Tundra. Nisha's mistake buying the Divine Rapier item and it was taken by Tundra. very painful. maybe if Nisha is not careless she still has a chance to fight in the third map.



next match GG vs Quest


I know that these two teams have good performance and the reason I took over 42.5 is because in this Bali Major match all teams will try to get tickets to continue to TI 12. So there will most likely be intense competition and of course the total kills will be over 42, 5

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July 07, 2023, 06:09:16 PM
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Im not even sure if the team will terminate his contract after this foollish thing that he had done
Their rulebook did mention that he could be banned for five years and maybe Valve will be the one to give the punishment after the major.

The only pre-live bet i'm confident for today is Team Liquid and i'll live bet the other three. Also, the over 2.5 might be a play worth considering when all of the playoff series have gone 2-1, except for the Betboom series that got voided.





Sadly, This didn’t go well as expected. I’m a Team Liquid fan too on this tournament but somehow Tundra manage to beat them 2 game straight with both long game. It's a sign that Tundra know how to play against Team Liquid because they knew how to counter them every play.

I think this is a different story if Betboom is their opponent instead of Tundra. I'm starting to feel the inconsistency of Liquid once they move on the Upper Bracket, They always checking agains same WEU teams that play against them many times.
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July 07, 2023, 06:20:20 PM
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I was so sure of Liquid victory today that I place two consecutive bets on them to win both maps and both of them were a loss. Now , I think Liquid drafted like that intentionally because they had a clear advantage in early-mid game and no advantage during the late them and that cost them both maps in the end.   Undecided

Then , I was hoping for Quest to win but as soon as I saw Ace with his Doom , I knew that GG was going to win in the end but Quest do have a very strong stream that might end up with playing semi-finals but only a victory will qualify them to TI. 


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July 07, 2023, 11:45:51 PM
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I was so sure of Liquid victory today that I place two consecutive bets on them to win both maps and both of them were a loss. Now , I think Liquid drafted like that intentionally because they had a clear advantage in early-mid game and no advantage during the late them and that cost them both maps in the end.   Undecided
2nd map was hard for Tundra and it was an almost win for Team Liquid. I thought that the game will be up to three but on the 2nd map, the Tundra was able to come back. A meepo mid and a broodmother carry and then a support visage did it all, 33's darkseer was also fat on this game.

Then , I was hoping for Quest to win but as soon as I saw Ace with his Doom , I knew that GG was going to win in the end but Quest do have a very strong stream that might end up with playing semi-finals but only a victory will qualify them to TI.  
Quest is no doubt strong but it's just that GG is stronger. The upper bracket final is just like a replay, GG and Tundra.

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July 08, 2023, 12:13:51 AM
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2nd map was hard for Tundra and it was an almost win for Team Liquid. I thought that the game will be up to three but on the 2nd map, the Tundra was able to come back. A meepo mid and a broodmother carry and then a support visage did it all, 33's darkseer was also fat on this game.
That successful high ground defense from Tundra shifted the momentum and the networth lead that Team Liquid accumulated didn't matter anymore as their healing lineup started to fall off.

Sadly, This didn’t go well as expected. I’m a Team Liquid fan too on this tournament but somehow Tundra manage to beat them 2 game straight with both long game. It's a sign that Tundra know how to play against Team Liquid because they knew how to counter them every play.
TL also got overconfident taking fights when they're down a hero while Tundra is always grouped up as five.

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July 08, 2023, 01:53:44 AM
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2nd map was hard for Tundra and it was an almost win for Team Liquid. I thought that the game will be up to three but on the 2nd map, the Tundra was able to come back. A meepo mid and a broodmother carry and then a support visage did it all, 33's darkseer was also fat on this game.
That successful high ground defense from Tundra shifted the momentum and the networth lead that Team Liquid accumulated didn't matter anymore as their healing lineup started to fall off.
One mistake and all of the gold lead is gone. Tundra is always like this, always unpredictable. But having an incomplete roster as saksa isn't there, the plays made it even better. Team Liquid for sure have learned a lot from this match and if they're on the lead and they'll be able to end the game, they should have ended it as soon as possible but well, even if they want to if the defense on hg is through tough still they just can't. Experience wise, Tundra really knows well on situations like those.

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July 08, 2023, 02:34:44 AM
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It's live now. Liquid is leading the match right now but panda is slowly catch up liquid's gold. TL is always invade panda's jungle. I think that the winner for the first match can be known easily. TL is fully dominating panda at this moment.

Pandal is still waiting for a blunder that gonna be made by TL.

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July 08, 2023, 07:16:03 AM
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Today are some showmatches between top CSGO clans and some old school Legends. Faze is going to play a team of Legends in the SteelSeries CS2 matches. These games are mainly for entertainment as there special bounties for the players if they get a knife kill and only the Desert Eagle as weapon is allowed, but we can still bet on them. When it comes to showmatches I am always a bit afraid as the top team will likely not give 100% performance to make it seem more interesting. That is why I am only going to make a small bet on the Legends team. And then there is are two matches between NaVi and Vitality, where the two best players are going to switch teams. ZywOo  will play for NaVi and s1mple is going to play with Vitality which is going to make things more interesting. Again I am a bit afraid to bet any larger sums on these showmatches and will only make a small bet on Vitality, I think they have they have the better strategies at the moment. It's always only best of 1 games which makes it harder to predict a winner.
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July 08, 2023, 07:27:08 AM
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If we take a look at the recent transfers, Mir has signed a long year contract with VP. Mir is one of the most experienced and talented players among the Russian players.This transfer will add strength to Virtus Pro.The failure in the last tournaments must have bothered the VP team so much that they felt the need to make such a move.I don't know who will bench, but having mir in the main roster will be a positive.
Spirit, on the other hand, formed a new squad by promoting 3 players from the academy team to the main squad. Thus, they both rejuvenated and renewed the team. Of course, both chopper and magixx are still continuing as 2 experienced and experienced players in the team.
Fnatic, on the other hand, mixed the roster well and turned into an international team.After Nicoodoz's bench, fnatic transferred afro to the team as awper, and included dexter from mouz as IGL.Time will tell if this will be good for them.

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It's live now. Liquid is leading the match right now but panda is slowly catch up liquid's gold. TL is always invade panda's jungle. I think that the winner for the first match can be known easily. TL is fully dominating panda at this moment.

Pandal is still waiting for a blunder that gonna be made by TL.

Team Liquid manage to bring down 9Panda with a reverse sweep. I really thought that they can't gonna make it since 9panda took game 1 but game 2 and 3 seems an easy game for them. Right now they already got 1 game against Quest but their current match game 2 is I believe already a loss since Quest AM is full counter of Micke Medusa that is now on huge gap in terms of net worth. Medusa is useless against fully farm AM no matter what he do since TL support is very squishy at this point.

I really want seeing TL manage to have a miracle run on Lower Bracket to be on the final against GG. I believe that they can manage a sweet revenge against Tundra on semi finals in case they will beat Quest on Game 3 because Game 2 is pretty decided already

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July 08, 2023, 02:44:15 PM
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Quest almost had it.

If Ammar did just focused on their objective to just destroy the T3 tower, it would have ended well for them. But Team Liquid did a come back, gg and well played for both teams.

Now since, there are three teams left for the Bali major namingly, GG, Tundra and Team Liquid. All of these teams are qualified already to TI.

The magic twelve for the DPC ranking road to TI is all set. While there's this hot discussion about Pure being out to BetBoom, they'll for sure going to have minus points and IIRC, that's 20% of their entire points which is 760 * 20% = 152 DPC points will be deducted to them.

If Valve decides to give them penalty then EXE which has got 740 DPC points shall take the last slot.

Again, this will all depend to Valve's decision.

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July 08, 2023, 03:20:39 PM
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Quest almost had it.

If Ammar did just focused on their objective to just destroy the T3 tower, it would have ended well for them. But Team Liquid did a come back, gg and well played for both teams.


Ammar is a double edge sword player, He is good when he is on the zone but he is bad too when the game is not favoring on his team. He is easy to become carried away on clash and become arrogant just because his hero has an early advantage. Quest already got the game when they won their last clash with Aegis until Ammar just pick off during their high grounds just because he is greedy on getting Liquid supports in the backline instead of playing safe by destroying that T3 tower.

On the other hand. Zai is doing a great job pressuring all lanes when they are still behind gold and when they lose team fights. This is the reason why Quest can’t do high grounds immediately since they need to react on Zai pressure on all of their lanes.

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July 08, 2023, 04:25:08 PM
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Im not even sure if the team will terminate his contract after this foollish thing that he had done
Their rulebook did mention that he could be banned for five years and maybe Valve will be the one to give the punishment after the major.

I wonder what Valve is going to do but his career is definitely over this time. He was also kicked out of VP before for drawing Z on the minimap which shows support for Russian invasion like a year ago. A talented young player but seems to be abit problematic for sure and he might have been doing this type of stream sniping throughout his entire career though. God knows he could do that in DPC for sure

Meanwhile Betboom made it to TI somehow


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July 08, 2023, 10:25:09 PM
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Quest almost had it.

If Ammar did just focused on their objective to just destroy the T3 tower, it would have ended well for them. But Team Liquid did a come back, gg and well played for both teams.

Ammar is a double edge sword player, He is good when he is on the zone but he is bad too when the game is not favoring on his team. He is easy to become carried away on clash and become arrogant just because his hero has an early advantage. Quest already got the game when they won their last clash with Aegis until Ammar just pick off during their high grounds just because he is greedy on getting Liquid supports in the backline instead of playing safe by destroying that T3 tower.
I think that he was tilted during that time, it's known that he's easy to get flamed. All of his games, he has dominated his lane but it's not just all about winning the lane but winning the game.

On the other hand. Zai is doing a great job pressuring all lanes when they are still behind gold and when they lose team fights. This is the reason why Quest can’t do high grounds immediately since they need to react on Zai pressure on all of their lanes.
And his item choice also helped, his lycan built scythe of vyse that did helped in locking down Quest's heroes.

Meanwhile Betboom made it to TI somehow


Not yet sure with that, waiting for Valve's decision if there's a penalty and minus points for BetBoom.

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July 08, 2023, 10:41:29 PM
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Im not even sure if the team will terminate his contract after this foollish thing that he had done
Their rulebook did mention that he could be banned for five years and maybe Valve will be the one to give the punishment after the major.

I wonder what Valve is going to do but his career is definitely over this time. He was also kicked out of VP before for drawing Z on the minimap which shows support for Russian invasion like a year ago. A talented young player but seems to be abit problematic for sure and he might have been doing this type of stream sniping throughout his entire career though. God knows he could do that in DPC for sure

Meanwhile Betboom made it to TI somehow



So who's going to replace Pure? They really need to get someone that matches the offlane's gameplay, or at least more aggressive while also survivable since Pure is doing a lot on that department before the stream sniping incident. There are a few names I can think of that are currently free agents, although I'm not sure about the ruling of Valve regarding adding new players to the roster a few months before the event. They can still scout for some talented pubstars out there, though. They still have time after Bali major - lots of it.
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July 08, 2023, 11:19:42 PM
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Meanwhile Betboom made it to TI somehow


Not yet sure with that, waiting for Valve's decision if there's a penalty and minus points for BetBoom.

There probably wont be any additional penalty for Betboom because the team gained 0 DPC points from this Major so its kinda weird to punish the whole team just because a player did some stupid stream sniping. The appropriate punishment would be to ban Pure from joining any official tournament in the future, this is his 2nd time doing something stupid in an official tournament

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Meanwhile Betboom made it to TI somehow


Not yet sure with that, waiting for Valve's decision if there's a penalty and minus points for BetBoom.

There probably wont be any additional penalty for Betboom because the team gained 0 DPC points from this Major so its kinda weird to punish the whole team just because a player did some stupid stream sniping. The appropriate punishment would be to ban Pure from joining any official tournament in the future, this is his 2nd time doing something stupid in an official tournament

Valve isn't really letting anyone off the hook for the most part, but they don't punish the team for an individual's doing either. I think it's enough to ban Pure for a long time and let BetBoom look for his replacement. Heck, they still have 3 more months to do that, and I think they can do that. As for Pure, well he's got problems in his attitude even though he's definitely a good offlane player. Such a waste of talent being eaten by ego or whatever the hell is going on with his mind.
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Crazy show matches (to test new CS2 dynamics imo), old VP duo Pasha and NEO manage to make the most of Nuke vs former world champs Faze.  Thats a hard comeback for guys closer to 40 then 30, reactions must surely slow at that age.  Old VP were always decent on Nuke or maybe its just an upset map.  Not sure we can read in too much.
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** s1mple and ZywOo swap teams during this match.
I guess that makes things interesting some.

My take is to expect higher volatility and also more 3 maps played as CS2 being different dynamics is enough upset to pro teams to alter the balance of play and put us more into the unknown outcomes.

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