🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread

[sompitonov]

Guys, game time for Dota 2 The International is about to happen within the next 6 hours. And I have just noticed one thing about the posts related to the International just this day. It's about Eva Elfie, I know that you know her guys and is this really a serious thing that she said or is she just chasing clout? Here is what I am saying and known websites posted this news about her.

• Eva Elfie To Add OnlyFans Cash To ‘Dota 2’ International Prize Pool
• Eva Elfie Comes to the Rescue of The International 2023 Prize Pool
• Eva Elfie Pledges OnlyFans Earnings to Dota 2’s TI12 Prize Pool

Of course, the male audience knows her. I also saw this news. I remember how she appeared in the news feed at previous TI's, she is trying to get hyped and increase her recognition among those who didn't know her. Very competently, it was probably advised to her by people who understand this. I believe that she only pursues mercenary goals and is not interested in Dota 2. Also, in addition to what I have listed, I will add that she also hangs around millionaire players. I don't want to say anything bad, but maybe she... okay, I'd better stop. In general, I have a negative attitude towards her specifically at TI.

I remembered how one of the players at the last TI met her and after that said that he no longer wanted to watch the video with her.

First confrontation has just ended. An incredibly boring and fast game, just as I expected with a score of 2-0. But now the game that I have been waiting for all these days will begin! VP-BB, bring it on guys!

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[passwordnow]

Guys, game time for Dota 2 The International is about to happen within the next 6 hours. And I have just noticed one thing about the posts related to the International just this day. It's about Eva Elfie, I know that you know her guys and is this really a serious thing that she said or is she just chasing clout? Here is what I am saying and known websites posted this news about her.

I dont think its about clout, shes already one of the most famour adult stars right now, she is a big dota fan apparently and has attended previous majors/TI's as well as this TI also.

Yeah, I know all of those stuff and I was just wondering if this is for the clout. If she's telling the truth that she'll contribute to the prize pool of this TI, what a shame for Valve. It only takes them a p*rnstar to contribute to their little prize pool. LOL.

She also was involved in the sponsorship/ambassador stuff of some teams, i think it was talon and/or spirit ?

IIRC, it was only Talon Esports.

Of course, the male audience knows her. I also saw this news. I remember how she appeared in the news feed at previous TI's, she is trying to get hyped and increase her recognition among those who didn't know her. Very competently, it was probably advised to her by people who understand this. I believe that she only pursues mercenary goals and is not interested in Dota 2. Also, in addition to what I have listed, I will add that she also hangs around millionaire players. I don't want to say anything bad, but maybe she... okay, I'd better stop. In general, I have a negative attitude towards her specifically at TI.

I remembered how one of the players at the last TI met her and after that said that he no longer wanted to watch the video with her.

First confrontation has just ended. An incredibly boring and fast game, just as I expected with a score of 2-0. But now the game that I have been waiting for all these days will begin! VP-BB, bring it on guys!

IMO, it's also a good exposure for her and she's able to tell about her OF and that means people will think that if she's going to contribute to the prize pool, then instead of buying compendium or any items on Dota 2 then they'll just have to support her at her own cause through her OF. I think it's a brilliant idea of her and she successfully able to introduce her to other dota 2 fans through this statement she made whether it's true or not.

[arallmuus]

Long breaks usually don't make sense to me, too. I get that players need to rest in order to be in top form for the games, but they are losing the drive and the hype as the days go by. During their down time, they can study other teams' gameplay and perhaps craft some nice strategies and hopefully it translates to their games. These players need to relax, too, but extra long breaks doesn't really make sense in this kind of competition.

Well it does make sense to me because if it wasnt because of the breaks then I'd believe most games will end up with favourites to win which is kinda boring in this type of tournament. Aside from that by creating this breaks, Valve will be forcing fans to stay in the city which means this would also help the city on tourism aspect although not by much but atleast the crowd will need to pay for all those hotels and food


Anyway, back to the game. Im expecting BB to win 2-0 but currently they are struggling in the 2nd map 

[Fatunad]

Long breaks usually don't make sense to me, too. I get that players need to rest in order to be in top form for the games, but they are losing the drive and the hype as the days go by. During their down time, they can study other teams' gameplay and perhaps craft some nice strategies and hopefully it translates to their games. These players need to relax, too, but extra long breaks doesn't really make sense in this kind of competition.

Well it does make sense to me because if it wasnt because of the breaks then I'd believe most games will end up with favourites to win which is kinda boring in this type of tournament. Aside from that by creating this breaks, Valve will be forcing fans to stay in the city which means this would also help the city on tourism aspect although not by much but atleast the crowd will need to pay for all those hotels and food


Anyway, back to the game. Im expecting BB to win 2-0 but currently they are struggling in the 2nd map  
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Having long breaks or not, favorite would be still favorite and this is why i do agree that having too long would really be breaking that hype but well its their own management who had decided such set up but still it is really just still that fine considering that crowd is still there and hype is still there but not really that much if we do compare on previous TI's or it is really just that me. About tourism then it would really be that something significant but not all people who had been in the venue would really be able to stay that long but its impossible that they wont really be that be able to make those schedules knowing that it was given earlier.

Still a win and congrats to that, BB did really struggle despite of having Mega creeps yet they cant easily push or finish i up because of Muerta which damage is really that indeed painful and could wipe them on.
The game closes is on the time that Muerta did purchase that 3 Rapiers and planning  to have that rat Dota strategy on top barracks using up with that Kunka X-mark but ended up on getting killed.
Mid clash was their final and that Dark Willow with DR closes up the game on using Shadow Realm + Divine = GG.

[Mauser]

The European Thunderpick World Championship 2023 started yesterday and is after IEM Sydney the second big CS2 tournament. So far CS2 still feels a bit buggy, but there are new patches almost every 3 days and it's just a matter of time for the game to run smoothly. I really enjoy the new performance, the graphics are nice and there also new strategies being developed. FaZe has done so well during IEM Sydney that I think they are also going to dominate this tournament. The first match today is going to be fnatic vs NiP, two of the old school rivals that both have a lot of experience. It's hard to make a prediction for the game, I think it could be going either way. The two teams just played against each other where NiP won 2-1, so I am hoping NiP can repeat that today. The second match will be cloud9 vs Virtus.pro, where Virtus.pro should win without a problem. They played quite well recently and should be going far in the tournament. In the third match will be Wildcard vs SAW, two teams where I am not really familiar with and I will skip that match. SAW already lost 2-0 against FaZe, so I don't think they will go far in the tournament. The last match today is FaZe vs Monte, the Ukranian team is not bad, but FaZe is the clear favourite here and should be winning without any problems.

[arallmuus]

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Still a win and congrats to that, BB did really struggle despite of having Mega creeps yet they cant easily push or finish i up because of Muerta which damage is really that indeed painful and could wipe them on.

Yeah it was pretty close and VP had a good chance to turn it over as well. 87th minutes game and its really frustating when you had to watch it for that long only then to watch your team lose the game but they ended up winning lol. I had another bet on Liquid to win against Spirit though but yeah that one ended up with a bust, I should have chosen over 2.5 maps on that one

So we are getting into our usual classic game for tonight, the long last rivalry between Team Liquid and GG. Also I think BB could be going for another 2-0 win on  Azure Ray as well

[Eternad]

So we are getting into our usual classic game for tonight, the long last rivalry between Team Liquid and GG. Also I think BB could be going for another 2-0 win on  Azure Ray as well

I really like this pick since AR is struggling to find their game when they are beaten by LGD. Most of the time, Lower Bracket team has the advantage due to the momentum so I agree that this match can be an ez 2-0 for BB considering how great they are on defending high grounds despite they are on the disadvantage. BB is unbeatable by any team on the lower bracket.

About the Team Liquid vs GG, I'm afraid that someone on this 2 team might 2-0 the other one once they got the chance to have the lead. Determining who will win is tricky too so I will skip this pick and only copy the BB pick. 

[boltz]

Had only 1 betting ticket yesterday with BB to win and Liquid to win but unfortunately Liquid lost against Spirit and now they will have to face GG tonight. An eternal matchmaking between these 2 teams right ? However , I still think Liquid plays better in this TI than GG but I do see the series going to 3 maps.

What did surprised me was the fact that Azure Ray couldn't win 1 map from LGD as I think most of the bettors had 3 maps in this series...

[sompitonov]

Had only 1 betting ticket yesterday with BB to win and Liquid to win but unfortunately Liquid lost against Spirit and now they will have to face GG tonight. An eternal matchmaking between these 2 teams right ? However , I still think Liquid plays better in this TI than GG but I do see the series going to 3 maps.

What did surprised me was the fact that Azure Ray couldn't win 1 map from LGD as I think most of the bettors had 3 maps in this series...

GG vs BB This is a repeat of the finals of 3 Majors this year, it's incredible. I also think that there will be 3 maps, the battle will be fierce. I don’t presume to predict who will win here, it look like tossing a coin to me.

In the Azure vs BB match, I would really like BB to win, I want them to go as far as possible, because their games are very bright. Well, as for Team Spirit and LGD, this is a repetition of the TI10 grand final, the same one when the whole world learned about Team Spirit. I have only one question, how not to go crazy with the number of such amazing games today.

[arallmuus]

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I really like this pick since AR is struggling to find their game when they are beaten by LGD. Most of the time, Lower Bracket team has the advantage due to the momentum so I agree that this match can be an ez 2-0 for BB considering how great they are on defending high grounds despite they are on the disadvantage. BB is unbeatable by any team on the lower bracket.

About the Team Liquid vs GG, I'm afraid that someone on this 2 team might 2-0 the other one once they got the chance to have the lead. Determining who will win is tricky too so I will skip this pick and only copy the BB pick. 

BetBoom is a good team but compared to the other top teams on the lower bracket like GG or Team Liquid, I'd say they are a step behind those two but atleast they will be able to win 2-0 against AR today. They have won 2-0 against them once in the group stage so Im expecting BB to win again. As for Liquid vs GG, glad that we are heading onto the 3rd map. Liquid almost won the 2nd map but somehow they flop abit which makes GG able to win that but overall I'd say GG dominate the early game of both map though

[sunsilk]

Where is the crowd on this thread for the Dota 2 - The International 12? We're now down to the grand finals and two of the best teams for this year are the ones that are fighting for the Aegis.

We've got Team Spirit and Gaimin Gladiators.

Gaimin Gladiators went the hard way of reaching the grand finals and that's through the lower bracket while for Team Spirit made it easy from the upper bracket.

Good luck to all bettors and fans and mostly for both teams.

[passwordnow]

First game in the grand finals was easily taken by Team Spirit. If you guys have watched the game, it's totally like all siding with Team Spirit. Props to all of them because they have played their roles very well. Yatoro with that weaver is really strong and quick farmer thanks to the Lone Druid of Ace that has given him +600 gold in the early game. That has helped the factor for quick farm and taking early items that will help him during early team fights as he backs. The visions and aggressiveness made by miposhka and mira have helped them scout and know the positioning of GG. Well, for me this is a total massacre and AFAIK Ace's Lone Druid is one of his best but Team Spirit just made it cute like he's a walking gold in the map and too squish with weaver's desolator. Map 2 is coming shortly so let's all wait for that to commence. Most of my bets still have lost but on this grand finals, I am sure that many of you are also going to put some bets before this TI ends. I want to see a map 5 on this game because this is like best of the best for this season for Dota 2.

[boltz]

Such a demonstration of force by Spirit in first map of Grand Finals of Dota TI! If they will manage to keep up the pace for the rest of the series , we might have a quick 3-0 from Spirit and a second TI for this team who really  made GG looked like an easy team to defeat after GG simply demolished lower bracket and won 3 majors this year.  . They also need to figure it out how to stop Miposhka because it's clear that Yatoro cannot be stopped from farming like a monster 

[passwordnow]

Such a demonstration of force by Spirit in first map of Grand Finals of Dota TI! If they will manage to keep up the pace for the rest of the series , we might have a quick 3-0 from Spirit and a second TI for this team who really  made GG looked like an easy team to defeat after GG simply demolished lower bracket and won 3 majors this year.  .

I am also thinking that they're about to get this straight 3-0 so that the match will end too easy for them and Team Spirit will become a 2-TI time champion.

They also need to figure it out how to stop Miposhka because it's clear that Yatoro cannot be stopped from farming like a monster  

Actually what I have observed on the first map with the bans, it was Team Spirit that has banned most of the carry heroes. That's actually a good advantage for the Gaimin Gladiators already when they can focus on other heroes to get banned. The map 2 is starting now. I think Team Spirit knows how to tilt Quinn and he's already having a mental breakdown. LOL, this is what they get when most of the GG players don't even want to interact with their fans as they enter the dome. 2nd map bans as I am seeing it right now, it is Team Spirit that has banned the weaver. The drafting phase is executed very well by the Team Spirit and I think that silent is helping them a lot on this one. The first map with first pick weaver, probably confused GG. Now, the 2nd map, the first pick of Team Spirit is magnus, interesting that GG has given the best hero of collapse.

[dothebeats]

Such a demonstration of force by Spirit in first map of Grand Finals of Dota TI! If they will manage to keep up the pace for the rest of the series , we might have a quick 3-0 from Spirit and a second TI for this team who really  made GG looked like an easy team to defeat after GG simply demolished lower bracket and won 3 majors this year.  . They also need to figure it out how to stop Miposhka because it's clear that Yatoro cannot be stopped from farming like a monster 

We now have the second 2-time TI winner from Team Spirit! A lot of people still have reservations about Larl, though the rest of the crew proved themselves to be the undisputed champions with the display of their ability against GG. No wonder almost every person interviewed on the 'if you can ban a player, who would it be' segment mentioned Yatoro. That guy is a monster in farming AND using that farmed resources to dominate the game. Collapse is so good in catching and repositioning the fight as always, and Miposhka just complements Yatoro in a lot of ways. I also see some good layering of skills from GG, but they don't have the momentum like what TS have, unfortunately.

[boyptc]

Congratulations to another two time TI champs Team Spirit but still OG has that record of back to back TI champions. But both of them are now TWO-time TI champs.

Congratulations again to Team Spirit for beating all odds coming quite passive during the DPC season and GG has been the one to be noisy by that time.

This time, they deserve it. Maybe a three-peat this time and if this roster maintains its position and still play together maybe it's possible.

[arallmuus]

we might have a quick 3-0 from Spirit

I am also thinking that they're about to get this straight 3-0

So did any of you ended up taking this as bet ? because I did 



Well overall I lost alot on football prior to this and I took LDG to win against GG as well so this pretty much helps me get back what I've lost with decent amount of profit as well. I thought GG would win the 3rd map after dominating Team Spirit since the early game but somehow they made it back and won straight 3-0.

No complaint from me although I would love to watch the game goes to the 5th map instead but I won my bet so yeah 

[passwordnow]

we might have a quick 3-0 from Spirit

I am also thinking that they're about to get this straight 3-0

So did any of you ended up taking this as bet ? because I did 

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Well overall I lost alot on football prior to this and I took LDG to win against GG as well so this pretty much helps me get back what I've lost with decent amount of profit as well. I thought GG would win the 3rd map after dominating Team Spirit since the early game but somehow they made it back and won straight 3-0.

Congratulations on your wins. I also thought that GG will prolong the series but it seems they just can't and maybe they're now feeling what other teams have felt against them before during the majors on how to beat them. It feels so good to see them get beaten honestly because they're dominating the entire year and major after major. I'm not a hater of it but when someone is just too good and unbeatable, you just want to see them get beaten and the ones beaten them is Team Spirit which is a strong team and had their own record now.

No complaint from me although I would love to watch the game goes to the 5th map instead but I won my bet so yeah 

Me too, we would have some good Dota to watch if the match happened to get up to the 5th map. But Team Spirit just ended it without any mercy given to Gaimin Gladiators and how many times did we see a swept already during the TI finals? I remember Team Liquid (former Nigma) did this.

[Wapfika]

we might have a quick 3-0 from Spirit

I am also thinking that they're about to get this straight 3-0

So did any of you ended up taking this as bet ? because I did 

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Well overall I lost alot on football prior to this and I took LDG to win against GG as well so this pretty much helps me get back what I've lost with decent amount of profit as well. I thought GG would win the 3rd map after dominating Team Spirit since the early game but somehow they made it back and won straight 3-0.

Congratulations on your wins. I also thought that GG will prolong the series but it seems they just can't and maybe they're now feeling what other teams have felt against them before during the majors on how to beat them. It feels so good to see them get beaten honestly because they're dominating the entire year and major after major. I'm not a hater of it but when someone is just too good and unbeatable, you just want to see them get beaten and the ones beaten them is Team Spirit which is a strong team and had their own record now.

GG almost done the impossible which is winning the TI after an early place on the lower bracket. Team Spirit is just too OP while GG is already exhausted and play almost all their card in their sleeves since they have tons of match while TS is just waiting for them to finish.

It’s still a good run for GG to become a grand finalist after an almost early elimination. It’s just TS is much better team and AFAIK GG never won against TS since they spike up their game on last few tournaments before TI.

[passwordnow]

Congratulations on your wins. I also thought that GG will prolong the series but it seems they just can't and maybe they're now feeling what other teams have felt against them before during the majors on how to beat them. It feels so good to see them get beaten honestly because they're dominating the entire year and major after major. I'm not a hater of it but when someone is just too good and unbeatable, you just want to see them get beaten and the ones beaten them is Team Spirit which is a strong team and had their own record now.

GG almost done the impossible which is winning the TI after an early place on the lower bracket. Team Spirit is just too OP while GG is already exhausted and play almost all their card in their sleeves since they have tons of match while TS is just waiting for them to finish.

No doubt that Team Spirit is broken. But it's good to see that both teams were like the strongest this season and I also think that GG was just too tired with all of the pressure and matches that they have gone through. However, it would have been a different story if they gone through the upper bracket prior to their match against Talon Esports on the decider match.

It’s still a good run for GG to become a grand finalist after an almost early elimination. It’s just TS is much better team and AFAIK GG never won against TS since they spike up their game on last few tournaments before TI.

Yes, that's still a good run for GG because they've done the impossible and still reached the grand finals through the lower bracket. With that, they can already consider themselves as one of the best teams and there is no argument with that. It is that with their picks and playstyle against Team Spirit, they're confused and not connected at all. Maybe that's the magic of being against Team Spirit. They're gonna make you confused all along the entire games.