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October 11, 2013, 06:20:26 AM
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Mr. Horsehead :O !
Although, I am pretty sure there is a picture somewhere of me also wearing one.
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October 12, 2013, 04:26:40 PM
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Received this in my pm:

Hey Rassa,

I came across Bitcoin100 just the other day, and it's perfectly aligned with something I'm looking to do.

I run Coin Forest. We're like groupon, for bitcoiners only, and our mission is to grow the bitcoin economy.

I was talking to Adam from Let's Talk Bitcoin, about using our group buying platform as a crowd funding platform, to help prepay for something like conference recordings. Group buying and crowd funding are pretty similar to begin with in terms of their dynamics. That gave me an even better idea.

My proposal: find a prominent, forward thinking, internet savvy charity, and ask them to agree to accept bitcoin if we can raise a certain amount. Perhaps $10k.  All the money goes to them regardless, but if we miss the goal, we agree to convert it into cash and write a cheque.

Someone like Kiva, or DonorsChoose.org would be PERFECT. It's a win for them in terms of publicity anyways.

Here's what I'm asking for:

1) If you have spoken with either of these charities, or another that fits the bill that you think might be interested, I'd love to know.
2) I'm happy to do most of the work, but I would really like to get testimonials from influential bitcoin figures to support this effort. If you're willing to help, that's a great start.

If you don't think this is the worst idea ever, message me back.

Cheers!
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October 12, 2013, 06:21:22 PM
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Received this in my pm:

Hey Rassa,

I came across Bitcoin100 just the other day, and it's perfectly aligned with something I'm looking to do.

I run Coin Forest. We're like groupon, for bitcoiners only, and our mission is to grow the bitcoin economy.

I was talking to Adam from Let's Talk Bitcoin, about using our group buying platform as a crowd funding platform, to help prepay for something like conference recordings. Group buying and crowd funding are pretty similar to begin with in terms of their dynamics. That gave me an even better idea.

My proposal: find a prominent, forward thinking, internet savvy charity, and ask them to agree to accept bitcoin if we can raise a certain amount. Perhaps $10k.  All the money goes to them regardless, but if we miss the goal, we agree to convert it into cash and write a cheque.

Someone like Kiva, or DonorsChoose.org would be PERFECT. It's a win for them in terms of publicity anyways.

Here's what I'm asking for:

1) If you have spoken with either of these charities, or another that fits the bill that you think might be interested, I'd love to know.
2) I'm happy to do most of the work, but I would really like to get testimonials from influential bitcoin figures to support this effort. If you're willing to help, that's a great start.

If you don't think this is the worst idea ever, message me back.

Cheers!
John Nildram


Not sure if I'm an influential Bitcoin figure or not, but I'm McLovin' it. I believe I, among others, have suggested something similar in the past, but that's neither here nor there, especially since you're willing to do some/most of the leg work. But don't worry, you'll (John Nildram) have support.

To make sure we're on the same page, I'll offer up an example to help visualize how such would/could play out.

Wikipedia (a second example below) is approached with this endeavor, for a blessing on their part is in order prior to proceeding. Considering their unique case, a half million dollar Bitcoin endowment is at stake, and if raised within X days, Wikipedia embeds a Bitcoin donation option on their site if the goal is reached. If not, then all monies collected is sent to them via their current acceptable means with no strings attached. But, if the goal is reached, they must keep the Bitcoin donation option on their website for one year, of which time another drive is automatically restarted unless they end the agreement.

As an added bonus, no fees will be collected for the first effort with this endeavor, but a 1% (no more) will be deducted for all other subsequent drives by the same entity.

Don't worry too much about the above if you're freaking out how so much potential effort can be afforded during the first year, for I've got something up my sleeve of which will be discussed later if this endeavor takes on legs.

Assuming Wikipedia accepts the challenge offered up by the person (more on the person submitted the drives later), then that person must fund the initial donation of which is no less than $100 USD, a seed amount that is indicative of ANY drive, whether large or small.

Fortunately, we already have a person in place for this example--Meni Rosenfeld: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270255.0 And, there's already a wallet in use where ~$1,000 currently resides: http://blockchain.info/address/19HHHDya8PNqdVpiCdZYuwKyuWFoU1TC9A

Therefore, if Mani approached Wikipedia with this KIVA(?) idea and they accepted the $.5M(?) challenge, then it'll be up to Mani to use everything at his disposal to make sure the goal is reached. If it is, then Mani gets a feather in his hat (so to speak, but maybe literally), whereupon others may approach HIM to kickstart their drive. (thinkin' off the cuff here, not putting too much effort in on how this could pan out, but something to consider)

Another Example:

The National Alopecia Areata Foundation (NAAF), is a 501(c) organization (Federal Tax ID is 94-2780249). Headquartered in San Rafael, CA, NAAF supports research to find a cure or acceptable treatment for alopecia areata, supports those with the disease, and educates the public about alopecia areata. NAAF is governed by a volunteer Board of Directors and a prestigious Scientific Advisory Council. Founded in 1981, NAAF is widely regarded as the largest, most influential and most representative foundation associated with alopecia areata.

Basically, the same approach as with the Wikipedia example, but with a probably much less goal of say $20,000 USD in X days. Again, one person takes the incentive to approach NAAF with the proposal, and only after their blessing is given does the campaign begin.

On this KIVA(?) type site we're envisioning, a person, after registering with his real name, states on the site (a special page would be set up) that he's going to approach NPO X, and has 2 weeks to come back to the site, sharing a yea or nay.

Of course, nothing would stop any NPO to approach this endeavor on their own, and if they did, the fee would be 1/2(.5)% for the first and every drive.

That's enough brainstormin' for now. Hopefully enough to get other's creative juices a flowin'.

Thanks, John, for offering up the idea.
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October 13, 2013, 02:33:23 PM
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Thank Rassah for posting this where it belongs.

I'm glad to see a positive reaction.

The structure that Phinnaeus Gage laid out is pretty well exactly what I had envisioned.

I think approaching Wikipedia with this would be worthwhile.  A seemingly impossible goal like that would really draw attention.

I could say much more, but it's Canadian Thanksgiving, so I'm being neglectful right now.

Cheers,
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October 13, 2013, 03:50:52 PM
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Thank Rassah for posting this where it belongs.

I'm glad to see a positive reaction.

The structure that Phinnaeus Gage laid out is pretty well exactly what I had envisioned.

I think approaching Wikipedia with this would be worthwhile.  A seemingly impossible goal like that would really draw attention.

I could say much more, but it's Canadian Thanksgiving, so I'm being neglectful right now.

Cheers,
Nildram



Albeit Macy's a tad bigger, enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3CaeVARFk
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October 16, 2013, 02:31:12 AM
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I'm back.

1. I think a good working title would be: "Operation donate so goddamn much that they cave and begin accepting bitcoin". That may or may not be used publicly depending on the charity.

2. I'm pretty set on doing this for a charity that has some amount of name recognition. Bitcoin users will see the benefit of getting wikipedia to accept bitcoin donations as much more significant than that of getting the Crohn's and Collitis foundation. Go big or go home, ya know?

Are there any fence sitting charities that you know of, who might be into this?




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October 23, 2013, 08:40:43 PM
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Hey guys. So, our stash is up to $30k now (yay). Of the 5 charities I was personally introduced to, one is still working on it (I guess?) and the other one, after staying quiet for weeks, just wrote me an email saying they are very enthusiastic about getting the donation, and asking what more they have to do (accepting bitcoin would be a good start  Tongue). So... I guess keep soliciting? I swear, I'll never be rid of this damn stash of cash  Undecided

Anyway, just got a PM on the topic

Hello,

My name is Nikos Bentenitis and last Saturday I heard Jason King talk in the Bitcoin mini symposium here in Austin. He mentioned Bitcoin100 and although I was familiar with the organization for the first time I put 2+2 together and I realized there is a non-profit in my neighborhood that would greatly benefit from Bitcoin.

The non-profit is Eqsquina Tango, that builds community through dance, see www.EsquinaTangoAustin.com. Monica Caivano, the director of the non-profit, is very interested and wants to start accepting Bitcoins right away...

I was wondering what the procedure for nominating Esquina Tango.

Thank you very much,

Nikos Bentenitis
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To reply to the question here, the procedure is basically to bring it up for discussion. If it's non-religious and non-political in nature, it'll pretty much be accepted. In that case, just get them to add a bitcoin donation option on their website, and let us know when it's ready (I would suggest BitPay or BIPS, depending on where they are and what currency they use).

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October 24, 2013, 02:51:47 AM
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Hey guys. So, our stash is up to $30k now (yay). Of the 5 charities I was personally introduced to, one is still working on it (I guess?) and the other one, after staying quiet for weeks, just wrote me an email saying they are very enthusiastic about getting the donation, and asking what more they have to do (accepting bitcoin would be a good start  Tongue). So... I guess keep soliciting? I swear, I'll never be rid of this damn stash of cash  Undecided

Anyway, just got a PM on the topic

Hello,

My name is Nikos Bentenitis and last Saturday I heard Jason King talk in the Bitcoin mini symposium here in Austin. He mentioned Bitcoin100 and although I was familiar with the organization for the first time I put 2+2 together and I realized there is a non-profit in my neighborhood that would greatly benefit from Bitcoin.

The non-profit is Eqsquina Tango, that builds community through dance, see www.EsquinaTangoAustin.com. Monica Caivano, the director of the non-profit, is very interested and wants to start accepting Bitcoins right away...

I was wondering what the procedure for nominating Esquina Tango.

Thank you very much,

Nikos Bentenitis
www.linkedin.com/in/nikosbentenitis
nikos.bentenitis@gmail.com
512-524-7791

To reply to the question here, the procedure is basically to bring it up for discussion. If it's non-religious and non-political in nature, it'll pretty much be accepted. In that case, just get them to add a bitcoin donation option on their website, and let us know when it's ready (I would suggest BitPay or BIPS, depending on where they are and what currency they use).

Pretty much concur. All they need is an address of BitPay button (optional) and they'll golden.
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October 24, 2013, 09:25:19 PM
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This is Nikos who sent the PM above.

I will set up the non-profit with a wallet and I will get back to you.

Thank you!
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This is Nikos who sent the PM above.

I will set up the non-profit with a wallet and I will get back to you.

Thank you!

If their not going to use BitPay, then make sure that at least a dedicated Bitcoin wallet address is prominently displayed on either their home page or donation page. Ideally, a Bitcoin logo of sorts would be nice and it doesn't have to be clickable unless it's used on their home page and links to their donation page where a donor would be greeted with the other donation options.
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October 29, 2013, 11:14:40 PM
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Another request. Can we use an innovative financial instrument to donate to a charity that focuses on innovative finance?

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Our charity is Lend for America (lendforamerica.org). We offer a platform to help college students practice microfinance in the U.S. Students raise small funds to make microloans to disadvantaged business owners in the community next to their university. We've grown from 3 campus MFIs in 2009 to 24 today and we offer several programs to help students including online toolkits, in-person training during site visits, an annual conference, and a year-long fellowship program. We were founded by and still remain within the legal structure of the Intersect Fund Corporation - tax ID #: 36-4636828. The Intersect Fund was founded by students at Rutgers University in 2008 to serve small business owners throughout New Jersey.

Please let me know what other information you may need.

This charity was actually introduced to us by DavidBAL, who found out about us at the Amsterdam conference, and was also at the Atlanta conference.
The first thing I notice, though, is that they don't have a donation page. Hmmm  Tongue

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October 30, 2013, 02:26:50 AM
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I noticed that these organisations received money, yet there are issues on their pages:
http://www.kenija2012.com/ - gone?
http://antiwar.com/donate/donate.php - has the logo but only offers other payment methods?
https://watsi.org - only has credit card?
http://www.hiphopchessfederation.org/donate.html - ok, there is half the logo visible but searching the term bitcoin doesn't help finding it. Maybe they should be asked to fix that?
https://www.khanacademy.org - requires login to donate? Didn't do that, sorry. Seams weird to have to login for a bitcoin donation.




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I noticed that these organisations received money, yet there are issues on their pages:
http://www.kenija2012.com/ - gone?
http://antiwar.com/donate/donate.php - has the logo but only offers other payment methods?
https://watsi.org - only has credit card?
http://www.hiphopchessfederation.org/donate.html - ok, there is half the logo visible but searching the term bitcoin doesn't help finding it. Maybe they should be asked to fix that?
https://www.khanacademy.org - requires login to donate? Didn't do that, sorry. Seams weird to have to login for a bitcoin donation.


Allow me to shed some light all on these concerns.

kenija2012 was part of a larger org. at the time, of which didn't embed a bitcoin donation option.

watsi.org is located here: https://watsi.org/about#get-involved

Anti War is here http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/27/an-alternative-way-to-help-antiwar-com/ and has an active address: 1M87hiTAa49enJKVeT9gzLjYmJoYh9V98

hiphopchessfederation.org's button is only half there but does work, linking to BitPay. I will send them a kind letter to have them fix their HTML.

"Khan Academy also accepts donations via Bitcoin. You need to log in or sign up before donating. That way we can send you a receipt (and something extra)!" This was brought up at the time during the vetting process to accept them/they accept us. The issue is somewhat mute, but overall they do provide a wonderful service, along with a lot of eyeballs view that site.
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Another request. Can we use an innovative financial instrument to donate to a charity that focuses on innovative finance?

From Vanessa

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Our charity is Lend for America (lendforamerica.org). We offer a platform to help college students practice microfinance in the U.S. Students raise small funds to make microloans to disadvantaged business owners in the community next to their university. We've grown from 3 campus MFIs in 2009 to 24 today and we offer several programs to help students including online toolkits, in-person training during site visits, an annual conference, and a year-long fellowship program. We were founded by and still remain within the legal structure of the Intersect Fund Corporation - tax ID #: 36-4636828. The Intersect Fund was founded by students at Rutgers University in 2008 to serve small business owners throughout New Jersey.

Please let me know what other information you may need.

This charity was actually introduced to us by DavidBAL, who found out about us at the Amsterdam conference, and was also at the Atlanta conference.
The first thing I notice, though, is that they don't have a donation page. Hmmm  Tongue

As you've lightly touched upon, The Intersect Fund is the parent entity: http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?k=61s/TEfclYDjhittscQD7ocgaSDf62z48ufwU3MZRuT8G6wTsA2hPFxE3+jhD+/P5UuheAwIp4w=&domain=lendforamerica.org&prog_id=GoDaddy

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Domain ID:D163745893-LROR
Domain Name:LENDFORAMERICA.ORG
Created On:31-Oct-2011 17:27:53 UTC
Last Updated On:18-Oct-2013 05:06:42 UTC
Expiration Date:31-Oct-2015 17:27:53 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:3e67c3da2eda2458
Registrant Name:Rohan Mathew
Registrant Organization:The Intersect Fund
Registrant Street1:109 Church Street
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:New Brunswick
Registrant State/Province:NJ
Registrant Postal Code:08901
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.7325583432
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.7325583432
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:rohan.mathew@intersectfund.org

Of which has a donation page: http://intersectfund.org/section/for/11

On a side note, edd should soon be turning in his resignation for defacing my pizza thread.  Grin  Grin  Grin
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I noticed that these organisations received money, yet there are issues on their pages:
http://www.kenija2012.com/ - gone?
http://antiwar.com/donate/donate.php - has the logo but only offers other payment methods?
https://watsi.org - only has credit card?
http://www.hiphopchessfederation.org/donate.html - ok, there is half the logo visible but searching the term bitcoin doesn't help finding it. Maybe they should be asked to fix that?
https://www.khanacademy.org - requires login to donate? Didn't do that, sorry. Seams weird to have to login for a bitcoin donation.


Allow me to shed some light all on these concerns.

kenija2012 was part of a larger org. at the time, of which didn't embed a bitcoin donation option.

watsi.org is located here: https://watsi.org/about#get-involved

Anti War is here http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/27/an-alternative-way-to-help-antiwar-com/ and has an active address: 1M87hiTAa49enJKVeT9gzLjYmJoYh9V98

hiphopchessfederation.org's button is only half there but does work, linking to BitPay. I will send them a kind letter to have them fix their HTML.

"Khan Academy also accepts donations via Bitcoin. You need to log in or sign up before donating. That way we can send you a receipt (and something extra)!" This was brought up at the time during the vetting process to accept them/they accept us. The issue is somewhat mute, but overall they do provide a wonderful service, along with a lot of eyeballs view that site.

Ok, let me quote B100:
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In order to use donated funds in a manner consistent with donor expectations, Bitcoin100 donates the Bitcoin equivalent of $1000 to non-political, secular charities that prominently display an option for supporters to contribute via Bitcoin on their website.

Maybe especially the kenija2012-case should be shed some light on directly on the B100 website as it is not really good advertisement if I tell people to check out B100 as I guess the would check out how others qualified to receive the $1000. It's the top link  Roll Eyes
On Watsi: "prominently display"? Also: Coinbase still didn't get the "Send exactly 1.00 BTC" issue straight. WTH? We discussed that like a year ago? Seriously?
Anti War: "prominently display"? So a blog post from over a year ago is "prominent display"? Ok, so a bitcoin enthusiast that wants to force-feed anti-war with his bitcoins will be able to, but that's not the point of B100, sorry.



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This is exciting!
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I noticed that these organisations received money, yet there are issues on their pages:
http://www.kenija2012.com/ - gone?
http://antiwar.com/donate/donate.php - has the logo but only offers other payment methods?
https://watsi.org - only has credit card?
http://www.hiphopchessfederation.org/donate.html - ok, there is half the logo visible but searching the term bitcoin doesn't help finding it. Maybe they should be asked to fix that?
https://www.khanacademy.org - requires login to donate? Didn't do that, sorry. Seams weird to have to login for a bitcoin donation.


Allow me to shed some light all on these concerns.

kenija2012 was part of a larger org. at the time, of which didn't embed a bitcoin donation option.

watsi.org is located here: https://watsi.org/about#get-involved

Anti War is here http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/27/an-alternative-way-to-help-antiwar-com/ and has an active address: 1M87hiTAa49enJKVeT9gzLjYmJoYh9V98

hiphopchessfederation.org's button is only half there but does work, linking to BitPay. I will send them a kind letter to have them fix their HTML.

"Khan Academy also accepts donations via Bitcoin. You need to log in or sign up before donating. That way we can send you a receipt (and something extra)!" This was brought up at the time during the vetting process to accept them/they accept us. The issue is somewhat mute, but overall they do provide a wonderful service, along with a lot of eyeballs view that site.

Ok, let me quote B100:
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In order to use donated funds in a manner consistent with donor expectations, Bitcoin100 donates the Bitcoin equivalent of $1000 to non-political, secular charities that prominently display an option for supporters to contribute via Bitcoin on their website.

Maybe especially the kenija2012-case should be shed some light on directly on the B100 website as it is not really good advertisement if I tell people to check out B100 as I guess the would check out how others qualified to receive the $1000. It's the top link  Roll Eyes
On Watsi: "prominently display"? Also: Coinbase still didn't get the "Send exactly 1.00 BTC" issue straight. WTH? We discussed that like a year ago? Seriously?
Anti War: "prominently display"? So a blog post from over a year ago is "prominent display"? Ok, so a bitcoin enthusiast that wants to force-feed anti-war with his bitcoins will be able to, but that's not the point of B100, sorry.


kenija2012 is the top link because they were the first endowed with 100 BTC and not $1,000, of which equated to about $600 at the time. We were all excited to finally obtain the first site to accept our challenge (for lack of a better word). That site just happened to be short-lived, though the main site acts as a springboard yearly for other groups of doctors to go to Kenya offering up their free services as they finish up their studies at the university.

On Watsi: "prominently display"?: I guess that's the best they can do. We'll try to be more stringent in the future, the same true for Anti War.

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Also: Coinbase still didn't get the "Send exactly 1.00 BTC" issue straight. WTH? We discussed that like a year ago? Seriously?

The "Send exactly 1.00 BTC" is in default mode, but when you fill in the box in the line just above it with say 0.2045, the text becomes "Send exactly 0.2045 BTC".
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October 30, 2013, 07:57:52 PM
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kenija2012 is the top link because they were the first endowed with 100 BTC and not $1,000, of which equated to about $600 at the time. We were all excited to finally obtain the first site to accept our challenge (for lack of a better word). That site just happened to be short-lived, though the main site acts as a springboard yearly for other groups of doctors to go to Kenya offering up their free services as they finish up their studies at the university.
Hey, don't defend it here. We all know that now. Please put some link to such info on the page as clicking on the first participant and ending up at some "this url is for sale" is confusing and bad for B100's reputation.

The "Send exactly 1.00 BTC" is in default mode, but when you fill in the box in the line just above it with say 0.2045, the text becomes "Send exactly 0.2045 BTC".
Ok now it updates. Yesterday it didn't update. They definitely have a bug there.

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Other question: What would you guys think about Neighborhood councils? I'm particularly interested for those in Chile and there the one I live at. My "junta de vecinos" has a sports room where there is a Teakwon-Do club for children, grannies meet for bingo and crochet and my land lord asked me many times to join her for yoga sessions (with only women, all at least 20 years older than me Grin) and there is many activities more.

Anyway I know these juntas de vecinos are always short on money and there are quarters where I guess you could do a lot of good with $1000.

I searched a lot for equivalents of "501" in Chile but couldn't find it. "Sin fines de lucro" means "not for profit".

Maybe the fire fighters would qualify, too? I can check out those. They are quite visible, always asking for donations in the street but the fire fighters center is also quite open door.

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kenija2012 is the top link because they were the first endowed with 100 BTC and not $1,000, of which equated to about $600 at the time. We were all excited to finally obtain the first site to accept our challenge (for lack of a better word). That site just happened to be short-lived, though the main site acts as a springboard yearly for other groups of doctors to go to Kenya offering up their free services as they finish up their studies at the university.
Hey, don't defend it here. We all know that now. Please put some link to such info on the page as clicking on the first participant and ending up at some "this url is for sale" is confusing and bad for B100's reputation.

The "Send exactly 1.00 BTC" is in default mode, but when you fill in the box in the line just above it with say 0.2045, the text becomes "Send exactly 0.2045 BTC".
Ok now it updates. Yesterday it didn't update. They definitely have a bug there.


I just realized that both kenija2012.com and .net are gone. Their presense can still be seen here: https://www.facebook.com/kenija2012 and here: http://kenija2012.blogspot.com/
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