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August 22, 2023, 02:08:21 PM
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We saw PSG last season when they had top stars. Nor did they create a mighty PSG. Now Neymar Messi is gone. Why does PSG have so much money and stars but still don't make a difference?
Follow me. There are always internal conflicts. Teammates are not united, leading to sporadic competition. PSG do not have a captain with enough talent or enough tactics to connect them. I see them playing to deal rather than giving their all, wanting to win. With the current situation, the big teams will sink PSG quickly.
its quite simple, we take an example from another league team like Man City. my intention here is not to compare but just to take an example for an easier understanding.

like Man City from the beginning until last season it was only able to make new history to get a treble winner and also managed to get the champions league cup and it was all created because all the players and coaches were able to unite the chemistry and were also very solid to get what they wanted every season and the coach task is indeed heavy having to unite one player with another so that harmony is created between the other players and in real terms it can improve the team performance in each season.

so did PSG, when the problem was heating up Mbappe had said PSG was a breaking team. Im not sure what Mbappe means but I think that one player with another player cannot unite the chemistry and there are personal problems that cannot be resolved and it seems that the coach job is to solve these problems so that the team strength will increase like other teams. but its a shame that at this time new coaches may not understand this so its difficult to improve the quality of appearance even though there are star players in the team.
If PSG continues like this, it will weaken. It's only a matter of time, although they are financially strong. But the management is interested in something other than PSG's development strategy. The star players gradually left them. New stars and good coaches have no intention of signing them. There is too much bad news about them. And the PSG fans too. They blame the stars when the home team loses. As we have seen, they boycott Messi and Neymar. Most likely, Mbappe will be gone next year. What will they do to save a declining PSG?

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August 22, 2023, 02:10:40 PM
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PSG will not get stronger if there are still weak lines in their team, because last season it was clear that PSG would not be successful in the UCL when they only relied on their front line, while the other lines were still not strong enough. So that is still the main task of PSG if they want to make their team stronger this season, because defense is a very important line for all teams. And this season everything is also clear where PSG was only able to draw in the first two matches in Ligue1.
So far, PSG have not fully made a better transition for other lines and they are only too focused on attack positions. So they have to balance many lines in order to meet the club's needs. Now PSG are still unable to get good results with the depth of the squad they have updated this season, moreover, for matters of defense there must be significant improvements as much as possible. But midfield is also important because it will be more creative when there are several experienced players in this position. PSG's new recruits this season are actually good, it's just that maybe it takes more time so they can have a more equal impact on the club.

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August 22, 2023, 02:52:03 PM
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Mbappe was able to score the most goals for PSG last season thanks to Messi assisting Neymar. No matter how big a star a player is, he can never score a goal alone without the help of other players. When Messi and Neymar were at PSG, they both scored goals for the team and assisted others. This season will not be so easy for Mbappe. This season, Mbappe will not have as many experienced teammates as Messi Neymar, which will result in him being scoreless in many matches. There is no doubt that Mbappe is one of the best stars in Europe at the moment, but PSG definitely needs a player like Mbappe to help Mbappe.
Messi, Neymar and also Mbappe are the 3 front lines owned by PSG, these three players when they are on the field and are already holding the ball to attack the opponent's defense it can be very easy to produce a goal for PSG.
Now Neymar will only play to keep up with the game of his club mates and cannot dominate a good game like last season because I am sure his club mates will not be able to follow how Mbappe plays.

But this seems to be the last season for Mbappe with PSG and whether Mbappe will be played or not, it is clear that Mbappe is fed up with all this where he is no longer considered a core player for PSG.
I think that for next season Mbappe will definitely have a club that he deserves.
It is certain that this is Mbappe's last season at PSG, as soon as this season ends, Mbappe's contract with PSG will expire, giving PSG the freedom to move to the club of his choice. When the PSG president sat down with Mbappe, we initially thought that maybe Mbappe would win PSG this season, but PSG might have something else in mind. PSG will sell Mbappe to that club if a club makes an offer for Mbappe before this transfer window closes. However, Mbappe has said he wants to stay at PSC this season. The drama between Mbappe and PSG may not end until this transfer window closes. After all, if Mbappe stays at PSG for this season, there is also doubt as to whether he will eventually be included in the regular XI.

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August 22, 2023, 03:03:35 PM
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PSG will not get stronger if there are still weak lines in their team, because last season it was clear that PSG would not be successful in the UCL when they only relied on their front line, while the other lines were still not strong enough. So that is still the main task of PSG if they want to make their team stronger this season, because defense is a very important line for all teams. And this season everything is also clear where PSG was only able to draw in the first two matches in Ligue1.
So far, PSG have not fully made a better transition for other lines and they are only too focused on attack positions. So they have to balance many lines in order to meet the club's needs. Now PSG are still unable to get good results with the depth of the squad they have updated this season, moreover, for matters of defense there must be significant improvements as much as possible. But midfield is also important because it will be more creative when there are several experienced players in this position. PSG's new recruits this season are actually good, it's just that maybe it takes more time so they can have a more equal impact on the club.

From last season to now I think, that PSG has good players on all lines and not only on the front lines. From goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and strikers PSG basically has good quality players. But for some reason, even though PSG has changed coaches, but PSG has failed to get an easy win in every match so far. If this result continues in the next matches, then PSG will find it difficult to win the title this season. Also, it seems that buying star players is not the right way for PSG, because so far they have failed to have consistent dominance despite having star players.

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August 22, 2023, 05:32:40 PM
Last edit: August 23, 2023, 11:20:11 AM by temple
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Has it been decided yet whether Mbappe will play against Toulouse?

It's not wrong to play him because I think they still need Mbappe. Neymar's departure certainly makes Mbappe an important player at the moment, as PSG are also yet to find a replacement. So I think he should play. In addition, I know that Mbappe has also joined training with the team. Although I believe there is a real problem that is not completely resolved. But the first game I think PSG should start with a win. That will make PSG mentally better.
At the moment, PSG have no options without Mbappe. It would be a wrong decision for PSG to keep Mbappe on the bench right now and make the XI with other players. Mbappe's contract with PSG has one more year, this one year Mbappe will have to pay the full salary of one year if Mbappe is not kept in the starting eleven and plays against the opponent with other players. And I don't think PSG fans will take it well if a team without Mbappe is announced because Mbappe is a French star and he is in his best form at the moment so it would not make sense to replace him. Since Mbappe will stay at PSG for one year, PSG should use Mbappe properly for this one year. If Dembele and Mbappe can be used properly by PSG, their dreams of doing well in the Champions League may come true.

But is Mbappe really motivated enough to help the team? And for what?

I don't think that Mbappe is excited enough to really want to win the Ligue 1 title. He knows that the Champions League title is nearly impossible and if he also already knows that he will be playing for a different club next season, he might not even care how PSG will finish this season. It looks bad already for them and Mbappe is pretty much alone as a top level player. I also wouldn't be surprised if Mbappe is still thinking about leaving the club right in time because he knows that this season is not going to be one to remember.

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So far, PSG have not fully made a better transition for other lines and they are only too focused on attack positions. So they have to balance many lines in order to meet the club's needs. Now PSG are still unable to get good results with the depth of the squad they have updated this season, moreover, for matters of defense there must be significant improvements as much as possible. But midfield is also important because it will be more creative when there are several experienced players in this position. PSG's new recruits this season are actually good, it's just that maybe it takes more time so they can have a more equal impact on the club.
this is all because its just the start of the season and most of the teams almost look like PSG and also look like they do not have good performance but for me this is a normal situation because at the beginning of the season every team will adjust their strategy and the players who have just been recruited are not used to other players so things like this are very reasonable.
we can see PSG improving after the next 5 or 7 weeks, for sure the whole team and PSG will show their performance and this condition is the same as last season when entering the start of season.

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August 22, 2023, 06:10:39 PM
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Because if he wants Real Madrid they can surely offer the same contract to him as well. When he leaves I can't imagine how it would affect PSG for now.
Real madrid only wants him as free agent. Madrid never ever interested in buying him from PSG with non sense price. As you can see that even PSG is still struggling in scoring the goal with mbappe on its squad.

I see that PSG are really having serious problems on scoring goals without Mbappe. Messi and Neymar have left in the same transfer window and we have a much more different attacking line ahead. While Mbappe also doesn't play it is just an attacking line with new players all. There will even be a need for more time to see that trio playing together better.

Even if they don't manage to convince Mbappe to stay for longer they should still have him on the pitch as long as possible. Because until the new players adapt to the team they will really need Mbappe to be able to be productive at scoring goals. This was their second draw in second league match.

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August 22, 2023, 06:28:55 PM
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Because if he wants Real Madrid they can surely offer the same contract to him as well. When he leaves I can't imagine how it would affect PSG for now.
Real madrid only wants him as free agent. Madrid never ever interested in buying him from PSG with non sense price. As you can see that even PSG is still struggling in scoring the goal with mbappe on its squad.

I see that PSG are really having serious problems on scoring goals without Mbappe. Messi and Neymar have left in the same transfer window and we have a much more different attacking line ahead. While Mbappe also doesn't play it is just an attacking line with new players all. There will even be a need for more time to see that trio playing together better.

Even if they don't manage to convince Mbappe to stay for longer they should still have him on the pitch as long as possible. Because until the new players adapt to the team they will really need Mbappe to be able to be productive at scoring goals. This was their second draw in second league match.

Yes indeed, at this moment even though Mbappe is still in the PSG squad but the fact is, PSG is still difficult to score goals. But, is this because Enrique is currently carrying out several strategic experiments or indeed, Enrique still hasn't found a suitable strategy for PSG. Because it seems that this poor performance has also been seen from before the season started or from several friendly matches. With such poor results, of course, Enrique really has to be able to put in a better strategy by involving Mbappe in the main role.

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August 22, 2023, 07:23:49 PM
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If PSG have difficulty winning in the domestic league, of course in the champions league, they will also find it difficult to calm the match. because in the Champions league the opponents they face are stronger compared to their opponents in ligue 1.
So Luis Enrique has to think of a better strategy to be well received by their new players. Even though their new players are very experienced like Asensio and Dembele and we want to see them active in making a big contribution to PSG in the champions league this season.
Technically PSG players come from several clubs and have good abilities. So Enrique should only adjust and make the most of his abilities. I think for this season they are still quite capable of competing in Ligue 1. So they are still the Favorites for the champion. But for the UCL, since they are owned by Nasser Al-Khelafi indeed they have never been absent but they do not have UCL champions. The best achievement seems to be in the Runer Up position.
Luis Enrique is trying to stabilize the team and strengthen the bond between the players. He also changed PSG's match strategy. However, he has not been able to strengthen the PSG team yet. I would definitely say that the overall condition of the PSG team has improved somewhat. However, PSG's performance is still weak due to their attacking weakness. Only on Mbappe is the team now dependent. And Mbappe isn't getting a good enough performance from PSG. If Mbappe had performed well, PSG would not have lost points in the first two matches. Luis Enrique should find an experienced striker and add to the squad. PSG is the richest club. They have a lot of money. Adding a star striker to the squad is not a big problem for them.
Although PSG's attacking side is fairly good, I don't see any improved players in the team from midfielders to defense. The PSG team performed poorly last season as well due to the only midfielder and the defense in these areas the PSG authorities need to do a great job.

PSG have several talented players in their midfield defense. If coach Luis Enrique can use these players properly, and is able to strengthen the bond between the players, I think PSG's midfield and defense will be stronger. PSG's midfield has talented players like Veratti, Wijnaldum and Vitinha. And for defense there are players like Hakimi, Kimpembe, Murquinhos. So I wouldn't say that PSG's defense and midfield are weak.

PSG have talented players like Mbappe, Ramos and Dembele in their forward line. However, apart from Mbappe, no other player is a regular scorer. And now Mbappe is not in good form either. This is why PSG's overall performance is quite poor. If the chemistry between Mbappe and Dembele is good in the future, maybe PSG's attack will be stronger.

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August 22, 2023, 08:06:35 PM
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I don't know what you mean about the top 4, but Ligue 1 only has 3 Champions League tickets so finishing in the top 4 doesn't really mean anything. In any case, even finishing in the top 3 is absolutely unrealistic for PSG. The only thing I can believe is that for some team the season will be super successful and they will be able to take the title (in fact, this can be done even after losing personal meetings with PSG).

I believe that problems could increase from here for PSG. Mbappe benefitted a lot from players like Messi or Neymar and he will be missing their assists. He has been the one who could use his pace advantage and score after being assisted perfectly especially by Messi. It is a totally different team with a lot of important qualities now being gone.
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Neymar was good when he was on the field and played, but his instability in terms of readiness was a big minus. As for Messi, I have a different opinion - I think that he was pulling the team down. Statistically, "he passed and was helpful" but at what cost? Other players also make passes, but they are also involved in pressing and defending. Who is better - who made 20 passes but because of him there were dips in the center of the field or the one who made 10 passes but at the same time the center of the field was cemented? I think most coaches will choose the second option.

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August 22, 2023, 08:16:31 PM
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PSG will not get stronger if there are still weak lines in their team, because last season it was clear that PSG would not be successful in the UCL when they only relied on their front line, while the other lines were still not strong enough. So that is still the main task of PSG if they want to make their team stronger this season, because defense is a very important line for all teams. And this season everything is also clear where PSG was only able to draw in the first two matches in Ligue1.
Luis Enrique didn't have a good line-up in his first two matches in Ligue 1. PSG lost Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in the first game, while Mbappe and Dembele weren't really able to make much of a difference in the second game. PSG failed to win in these two matches because they lacked many things. PSG need creative midfielders, while they also need better defenders.

So far I don't understand why PSG prefer to sign strikers instead of midfielders. Even if they have a good midfielder then their game will get better throughout the season. PSG must bring in midfielders of the caliber of Bernardo Silva, De Bruyne or Ilkay Gundogan, Kroos and Modric, but so far they have not met that criteria from their midfielders.

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August 22, 2023, 08:25:13 PM
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I don't know what you mean about the top 4, but Ligue 1 only has 3 Champions League tickets so finishing in the top 4 doesn't really mean anything. In any case, even finishing in the top 3 is absolutely unrealistic for PSG. The only thing I can believe is that for some team the season will be super successful and they will be able to take the title (in fact, this can be done even after losing personal meetings with PSG).

I believe that problems could increase from here for PSG. Mbappe benefitted a lot from players like Messi or Neymar and he will be missing their assists. He has been the one who could use his pace advantage and score after being assisted perfectly especially by Messi. It is a totally different team with a lot of important qualities now being gone.
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Neymar was good when he was on the field and played, but his instability in terms of readiness was a big minus. As for Messi, I have a different opinion - I think that he was pulling the team down. Statistically, "he passed and was helpful" but at what cost? Other players also make passes, but they are also involved in pressing and defending. Who is better - who made 20 passes but because of him there were dips in the center of the field or the one who made 10 passes but at the same time the center of the field was cemented? I think most coaches will choose the second option.

That is an interesting and rare point of view, but you are free to have your opinion of course. Wink I think 99% of coaches would immediately choose Messi over anyone else. Everyone knows that Messi isn't doing any work defensively, but the same counts for most players that are similar to him. Mbappe isn't working defensively, Ronaldo the same. Neymar rarely did it. It also comes at a cost when players like Messi are also supposed to work for the defense. The dips in the center aren't because Messi is focusing on the offense. It is because PSG's midfield wasn't good enough. Can't remember that Barcelona was a bad team because Messi weakened the midfield.

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August 22, 2023, 09:05:05 PM
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PSG will not get stronger if there are still weak lines in their team, because last season it was clear that PSG would not be successful in the UCL when they only relied on their front line, while the other lines were still not strong enough. So that is still the main task of PSG if they want to make their team stronger this season, because defense is a very important line for all teams. And this season everything is also clear where PSG was only able to draw in the first two matches in Ligue1.
Despite a difficult start to the season for PSG with two draws, two points in two games and PSG are now 11th in the standings. Of course this is a serious thing if it is prolonged by a team like PSG, what's more sad is that PSG controlled the ball throughout the game, but this is possession of the ball without a sharp attack. players cannot create scoring opportunities and score goals. As a result there was only one goal in the last two matches and even then from the penalty spot.

But whatever it is, I see Enrique trying to instill a new style of play, by experimenting with existing schemes and player compositions, so that makes PSG unstable in the game. But, I believe that under coach Enrique maybe PSG can fix the problems PSG are facing. Indeed, PSG's defense is still lacking as you say, but I am sure that under coach Enrique he can excite his players this season by getting the UCL League trophy for the first time. Moreover, Mbappe did not leave, plus the players Lee Kang In, Usman Dembele, and Goncalo Ramos, I think PSG can make big changes this season.
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August 22, 2023, 11:24:12 PM
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Although PSG's attacking side is fairly good, I don't see any improved players in the team from midfielders to defense. The PSG team performed poorly last season as well due to the only midfielder and the defense in these areas the PSG authorities need to do a great job.
PSG will not get stronger if there are still weak lines in their team, because last season it was clear that PSG would not be successful in the UCL when they only relied on their front line, while the other lines were still not strong enough. So that is still the main task of PSG if they want to make their team stronger this season, because defense is a very important line for all teams. And this season everything is also clear where PSG was only able to draw in the first two matches in Ligue1.

Enrique just started his job and he surely needs some time to see in his plan works for PSG, we know they are trying to put themself in a better place and finally win the champions league title in the next season.
I think the main task for PSG and Enrique is not Ligue and France but they are aiming for the next champions league.

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August 22, 2023, 11:36:47 PM
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PSG will not get stronger if there are still weak lines in their team, because last season it was clear that PSG would not be successful in the UCL when they only relied on their front line, while the other lines were still not strong enough. So that is still the main task of PSG if they want to make their team stronger this season, because defense is a very important line for all teams. And this season everything is also clear where PSG was only able to draw in the first two matches in Ligue1.
All of the lines are still weak enough. The results from two matches have proven that how PSG can't even get full points against mediocre team of league 1. I saw that how the performance from PSG has been decreasing so hard. It's likely PSG may take a lot of time to build chemistry again. I don't expect big from PSG. The result will always be the same. PSG potentially to get another draw for the upcoming match. PSG is a club that must be avoided by gamblers now caused by how unstable the performance from the club is.
Mbappe gives nothing. People are over exciting toward him and scoring through penalty is not something special. Mbappe thinks he can become a savior, but he is definitely wrong about that.
Messi helps him a lot last season but there will be no guy who can play like messi this season in the club. The performance from PSG will become even worse.

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August 23, 2023, 04:01:31 AM
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Luis Enrique didn't have a good line-up in his first two matches in Ligue 1. PSG lost Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in the first game, while Mbappe and Dembele weren't really able to make much of a difference in the second game. PSG failed to win in these two matches because they lacked many things. PSG need creative midfielders, while they also need better defenders.

So far I don't understand why PSG prefer to sign strikers instead of midfielders. Even if they have a good midfielder then their game will get better throughout the season. PSG must bring in midfielders of the caliber of Bernardo Silva, De Bruyne or Ilkay Gundogan, Kroos and Modric, but so far they have not met that criteria from their midfielders.
Luis Enrique having problems problems in the defensive position because some of the defenders he has are currently injured, and vice versa regarding the midfield position because no one has been able to play above the average ability he needs, this is what makes PSG's attack and defense not so strong and good. Mbappe and Dembele also won't be able to do much if their front line is not energetic and unable to provide measurable mature passes because usually attacks are built through the movements of midfielders.

The midfield combination is also not very solid and I think it needs adaptation to Luis Enrique's coaching style for PSG players, because if this is seen this coach relies more on strength in hold the ball and he also often applies short ball games foot. Of course this style of play requires an energetic midfielder who can keep rhythm in midfield and I haven't seen a PSG midfielder who has that ability now.

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August 23, 2023, 04:44:08 AM
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Luis Enrique didn't have a good line-up in his first two matches in Ligue 1. PSG lost Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in the first game, while Mbappe and Dembele weren't really able to make much of a difference in the second game. PSG failed to win in these two matches because they lacked many things. PSG need creative midfielders, while they also need better defenders.

So far I don't understand why PSG prefer to sign strikers instead of midfielders. Even if they have a good midfielder then their game will get better throughout the season. PSG must bring in midfielders of the caliber of Bernardo Silva, De Bruyne or Ilkay Gundogan, Kroos and Modric, but so far they have not met that criteria from their midfielders.

It's high time the club knows what they need and go for it, they can't keep signing frontlines without scanning the backlines, how these roles operates. The defenders are not fully positioned to win games, rather they keep making blunders that cost them to concede goals in league games. PSG coach, Luis Enrique should make more signings this season, in full focus on the defend and midfield, because that's where their problem originates from. PSG have missed out on big names this season, players that would have secured an easy win for the parisians have already exited the club.

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From last season to now I think, that PSG has good players on all lines and not only on the front lines. From goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and strikers PSG basically has good quality players. But for some reason, even though PSG has changed coaches, but PSG has failed to get an easy win in every match so far. If this result continues in the next matches, then PSG will find it difficult to win the title this season. Also, it seems that buying star players is not the right way for PSG, because so far they have failed to have consistent dominance despite having star players.
Definitely improved without a doubt. They still should make a few more transfers but the summer is almost done and I do not think that we have that many players we could see changing clubs anytime soon. If teams wants to get rid of their players, they could just sell them to Saudi Arabia, and the teams who do not want to sell their players could just hold them and PSG could not afford to get them and would have to overpay for them which would be useless to do.

I think it will definitely be a situation where PSG has to wait until winter period or even next summer until they finish their entire setup. I bet that it's going to be even better, Mbappe may leave and that's fine they should get rid of him to stop the drama, but then they will have some great players.
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What are your predicting with Ligue 1 have more competitive in season 2023/24 after PSG faced winning difficult from last two matches? actually many people opinion is early eliminated PSG from winning race because they have been success dominance in Ligue 1 for last several years, but PSG have bad start in Ligue 1 after two draw from two matches and they have got two points right now. Badly with PSG attacking line they can't scoring goal through game open play and one goal from last match against Toulouse from penalty kick.

Upcoming match, PSG against Lens are in the bad performance after success finish on 2nd standings last season but get difficult for winning in this season, will AS Monaco with perfect result from two matches dominance for Ligue 1 season 2023/24 or PSG will back to usual 1st standings place?

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https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2023/al-ittihad-target-psg-captain-marquinhos/
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According to RMC Sport journalist Fabrice Hawkins, Saudi side Al Ittihad are targeting Paris Saint-Germain captain Marquinhos (29).
Marquinhos’ role as PSG captain is currently under threat. According to reporting from RMC Sport, two votes have been held to elect Les Parisiens’ captain for the season. Marquinhos is the current proprietor of the armband, and it was the Brazilian international that came out on top in the first round of voting. However, amid internal doubts about Marquinhos’ suitability for the role, a fresh vote has been held – this time the ballot was private. The Brazilian is one of five candidates in the running for the role, according to Le Parisien.

Saudi club is not yet sopping in pursuing more and more european players. According to the latest report, if PSG captain already targeted by saudi pro league club to be recruited before the end of transfer season. Many players in the club have been voting him for twice to be a captain for the club. There's no confirmation whether marquinhos has interest to leave from the club. Losing him will be a disaster for the club as he had been choosen as a captain again through votes that already done by PSG players.

It's hard to imagine who's gonna be a new captain if he will leave from the club and join in al ittihad. Saudi club is still very aggresive in hunting the new player now.

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