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August 09, 2023, 05:25:11 PM
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I haven't heard any authentic news so far that Kylian Mbappe is leaving PSG. But I'm sure Kylian Mbappe will leave PSG next season. If any of you have any authentic news please let us know.
True, there has been no official statement from PSG, Madrid and Mbappe himself regarding his move this summer. But seeing the movement of PSG management gives an indication that Mbappe is no longer a priority. In addition to dropping Mbappe picture poster, PSG is reported to have also withdrawn sales of Mbappe jersey from its official store, and there are no more photos of Mbappe in the main squad on their official website.



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August 09, 2023, 05:57:07 PM
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judging from the data on the transfer market, it seems that Mbappe chances of going to Real Madrid are far greater compared to other team because Mbappe also want a team that can take him to win the champions League title and that opportunity is at Real Madrid. I also know that PSG are interested in buying Dembele but I think its better for Ramos

The sum of the probabilities is 152%? Cool! This reminds me of the elections in my country  Grin
By the way, this data is worth absolutely nothing without one more line: "the likelihood that Mbappe will remain at PSG." You can draw any percentage when choosing a club, but the main question that worries everyone will be whether he stays at PSG or not.

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August 09, 2023, 06:02:03 PM
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I haven't heard any authentic news so far that Kylian Mbappe is leaving PSG. But I'm sure Kylian Mbappe will leave PSG next season. If any of you have any authentic news please let us know.
The real news for now is that Mbappe will leave the club next season. Even if Mbappe leaves the club next season, PSG thinks that Mbappe may have secretly completed the contract with Real Madrid without informing PSG. Since Mbappe is sure to leave PSG after one season, he is already being erased from PSG. Mbappé could have gone to Real Madrid this season if he wanted to, but he didn't go to Real Madrid this season due to the remaining contract period with PSG, because if Mbappé went to Real Madrid this season, he would have to pay the transfer fee and Mbappé is not willing to pay the transfer fee, that's why he is at PSG for one more season. Before the start of the transfer season, there were rumors that Neymar would leave PSG this summer, but instead of Neymar leaving PSG, Mbappe left the club, so everything is a mess.

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August 09, 2023, 06:18:57 PM
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I haven't heard any authentic news so far that Kylian Mbappe is leaving PSG. But I'm sure Kylian Mbappe will leave PSG next season. If any of you have any authentic news please let us know.
The real news for now is that Mbappe will leave the club next season. Even if Mbappe leaves the club next season, PSG thinks that Mbappe may have secretly completed the contract with Real Madrid without informing PSG. Since Mbappe is sure to leave PSG after one season, he is already being erased from PSG. Mbappé could have gone to Real Madrid this season if he wanted to, but he didn't go to Real Madrid this season due to the remaining contract period with PSG, because if Mbappé went to Real Madrid this season, he would have to pay the transfer fee and Mbappé is not willing to pay the transfer fee, that's why he is at PSG for one more season. Before the start of the transfer season, there were rumors that Neymar would leave PSG this summer, but instead of Neymar leaving PSG, Mbappe left the club, so everything is a mess.

But regardless of what happened and how it happened, if we assume that Mbappe and Real Madrid have a contract now that they signed secretly, what would the consequences be from the UEFA? Is it also a suspension for a player or a penalty for Real Madrid regarding new player transfers? Or would it be a punishment like paying a few million? Even if it is forbidden, I wonder what the regulation precisely says to prevent clubs from negotiating too early. Otherise who cares really in a business where it is all about billions that a player talks a few months too early with another club.

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August 09, 2023, 06:23:27 PM
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I don't think PSG will face too many problems. Because PSG's target next season will not be the Champions League. Luis Enrique will target the Ligue 1 title next season. At the same time he will try to stabilize the team. He will gradually strengthen the team, and try to build a squad worthy of competing for the Champions League title. PSG will have to move forward slowly. I think PSG boss Nasser AlKhelaifi understands well that the Champions League title cannot be won by investing a lot of money and recruiting star players.

I'm curious whether the PSG board are thinking the same as you. Because PSG have been desperately trying to make it to the Champions League title for many years. We have seen many managers coming and going but there is still no expected result. I don't want to show it like it has all been the managers' fault of course.

It is more related to the management of the team as whole. The owners are responsible for this look actually. Because of that I can't be sure of anything in Luis Enrique's management either for now. But if he manages to make his system work out much better than the previous managers then it can be more interesting.

PSG are a team that played a Champions League finale in the past years. Their main goal is to win the title now.

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August 09, 2023, 06:31:25 PM
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The sum of the probabilities is 152%? Cool! This reminds me of the elections in my country  Grin
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In fact, they count every probability apart in each team. The probability for him to join Real Madrid is 59 from 100 and so on for the other teams. If we consider all these teams together then his probability will be around 40% for Real Madrid comparing to the other 3.

By the way, this data is worth absolutely nothing without one more line: "the likelihood that Mbappe will remain at PSG." You can draw any percentage when choosing a club, but the main question that worries everyone will be whether he stays at PSG or not.
No I think a late deal will be done between PSG and Real Madrid. Second option will be Mbappe in the benches and a winter transfer to Real Madrid. That's what I think will happen personally.

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August 09, 2023, 06:33:48 PM
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I haven't heard any authentic news so far that Kylian Mbappe is leaving PSG. But I'm sure Kylian Mbappe will leave PSG next season. If any of you have any authentic news please let us know.
True, there has been no official statement from PSG, Madrid and Mbappe himself regarding his move this summer. But seeing the movement of PSG management gives an indication that Mbappe is no longer a priority. In addition to dropping Mbappe picture poster, PSG is reported to have also withdrawn sales of Mbappe jersey from its official store, and there are no more photos of Mbappe in the main squad on their official website.



source: https://en.psg.fr/teams/first-team/news

They are not issuing statements about the current rumors, and it is a form of their caution in player transfers. The club that wants him will definitely not want to indulge, because it could be that when they issue a statement the player does not get a deal. Likewise with the club that owns the player, they will not just issue a statement, especially if it is still in the negotiation stage and not yet close to the agreement or an agreement they want. About the price for example, or something else.
 It's interesting to see their poster that doesn't include Mbappe who we know is one of their star players, and they don't usually do that.

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August 09, 2023, 06:58:44 PM
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Interestingly of course, the situation is becoming more tense and perhaps clearer. Because after all, PSG had also made a strong decision to extend Mbappe contract with an increased salary as well, but Mbappe refused. Also, PSG had decided to sell Mbappe but again, Mbappe chose to stay for one more season. Mbappe attitude like that, obviously made PSG anger overflow and with that too, now PSG is taking another action not to include Mbappe in the player list. That way, it might become clear that if Mbappe wants to leave, then leave at this moment because if he stays, it seems like it will be useless for Mbappe too because he will not be included in the PSG squad later.
I haven't heard any authentic news so far that Kylian Mbappe is leaving PSG. But I'm sure Kylian Mbappe will leave PSG next season. If any of you have any authentic news please let us know.
In current situation, no one having any official or authentic news about this drama with mostly are giving through own views or through media which is also trying to have better views and more likes on their social media channels if something officially happen then surely all world will be able to watch this all and having things clear like we have in case of Cristiano Ronaldo in last transfer window because in every window we have dramas like these which is also part of this all.

With most chances as we are heading every day, Mbappé is not going to leave this club in this summer, and he will leave in next season with the tag of free agent as he wants to have better salary and other bonuses as well from the new club.

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True, there has been no official statement from PSG, Madrid and Mbappe himself regarding his move this summer. But seeing the movement of PSG management gives an indication that Mbappe is no longer a priority. In addition to dropping Mbappe picture poster, PSG is reported to have also withdrawn sales of Mbappe jersey from its official store, and there are no more photos of Mbappe in the main squad on their official website.
PSG is willing to lose money to teach Mbappe a lesson. These moves by the club are a confirmation that if the French international fails to leave the club, he will seat on the bench till the end of the season. Mbappe has not shifted the position of his willingness to remain in the club and leave for free next season. Real Madrid have not made any further statement and Saudi Arabia is not on Mbappe's radar. The player seems to have the ambition to play for Real Madrid and nothing will stop it. This was a player that was well-loved and highly respected by the PSG but this disagreement has made him an enemy. If the situation continues till after September 1st, PSG will have to keep paying Mbappe his lucrative pay even if he is not playing.

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August 09, 2023, 08:02:48 PM
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PSG is willing to lose money to teach Mbappe a lesson. These moves by the club are a confirmation that if the French international fails to leave the club, he will seat on the bench till the end of the season. Mbappe has not shifted the position of his willingness to remain in the club and leave for free next season. Real Madrid have not made any further statement and Saudi Arabia is not on Mbappe's radar. The player seems to have the ambition to play for Real Madrid and nothing will stop it. This was a player that was well-loved and highly respected by the PSG but this disagreement has made him an enemy. If the situation continues till after September 1st, PSG will have to keep paying Mbappe his lucrative pay even if he is not playing.
PSG cannot punish Kylian Mbappe since he outgrew that phase when he refused to extend his contract with the club. Remember, when he was on the verge of departing, the club stifled any possible relation with Real Madrid; Nasser Al-Khelaifi made certain that would not happen. He is currently in his final contract year, and the Parisians have various contract offers, which he has turned down. His desire is not officially disclosed, but the Parisians believe he has contacts with Los Blancos. Meanwhile, Real Madrid has made no public statements on the Kylian Mbappe transfer saga. The situation has grown more complicated.

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August 09, 2023, 08:21:31 PM
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I believe that PSG will not get too much harmful effect if they won't use Mbappe in a season. Some people told that it will harm the reputation of PSG but I am doubtful about such reputation damage.

If they want to teach Mbappe a tough lesson, they can do it and will not care about community discussions about their club reputation. If they go hard like this, they will send a strong warning to other star players in PSG and even new players they will buy in future for the club.

That will be a red flag for all star players that no single player is bigger and more important than PSG.
I am also sure now PSG management are feeling to that learn the lesson even their stake is under threat which is not problem for them because we have too many issues like this in past and clubs can manage things for their own sack and have good advantage of things like this as well, but surely this is not good for the Mbappé which is also going to ruin his reputation if he wants to leave then surely he has to do this all quickly without any problem as well.

PSG is already managed few things which are going to have good for them even now chances are not high for the win of Champions League because too many new players and new coach with this all it's going to take time as well but if they will give time to new coach Luis Enrique then surely he is person which can bring good results for them, and surely they can turn the tables into their favor as well.

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Since they already got a striker, I think they already made arrangements for him to leave and they can be a good team without him as well. Lets be honest here, are they good enough with the current roster to win the title without him? Yes they are, and did they win the UCL title with him? No they did not. So worst case scenario they will win the title of ligue 1 like they always do, and they are not going to end up winning UCL like usual.

So, it is going to be possible for them to keep Mbappe sidelined for all season long. In all his plan to get paid for one more year before he leaves for Real, the only flaw in his logic was he didn't believe they could actually not even put his name on the list, and PSG proved how far they can go if they mean this.

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August 09, 2023, 08:30:17 PM
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Since they already got a striker, I think they already made arrangements for him to leave and they can be a good team without him as well. Lets be honest here, are they good enough with the current roster to win the title without him? Yes they are, and did they win the UCL title with him? No they did not. So worst case scenario they will win the title of ligue 1 like they always do, and they are not going to end up winning UCL like usual.

So, it is going to be possible for them to keep Mbappe sidelined for all season long. In all his plan to get paid for one more year before he leaves for Real, the only flaw in his logic was he didn't believe they could actually not even put his name on the list, and PSG proved how far they can go if they mean this.

I would appreciate if PSG does it. I have no issues with Mbappe and I am certainly one of those people who like to watch him play and see how genius he is, but everything has its limits even for him. I am sure that if this is what PSG intends, you are totally right that Mbappe did not expect PSG to cross him off the official first team.

I am not familiar with the contracts and what PSG is allowed to do and what they are not allowed to do, but could they force him to play for a second team or to go to the training sessions on a daily basis and never bring him on? But he could probably counter decisions like that by simulating an injury, some mental issues that nobody can prove.

This is turning into a cinema movie if it keeps going like this. Time to get the popcorn out. But how must Enrique feel when he becomes the coach of PSG, Mbappe stays for one more year and he can't even let him play? This is all wrong but Mbappe is to blame.

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August 09, 2023, 08:33:40 PM
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Interestingly of course, the situation is becoming more tense and perhaps clearer. Because after all, PSG had also made a strong decision to extend Mbappe contract with an increased salary as well, but Mbappe refused. Also, PSG had decided to sell Mbappe but again, Mbappe chose to stay for one more season. Mbappe attitude like that, obviously made PSG anger overflow and with that too, now PSG is taking another action not to include Mbappe in the player list. That way, it might become clear that if Mbappe wants to leave, then leave at this moment because if he stays, it seems like it will be useless for Mbappe too because he will not be included in the PSG squad later.
The drama about Kylian Mbappe isn't over yet, but I think it's only a matter of time. Kylian Mbappe and his team seem very selfish and don't want to be kind to PSG's wishes whether it's a matter of planning a contract extension or by selling him. If Kylian Mbappe treats PSG like this then of course PSG will also be furious at him so certainty must be reached soon. Now Mbappe can cause problems at PSG even though he gets a big salary. It also means he has the same potential in other teams if he doesn't follow Mbappe's wishes.

Mbappe's unprofessional attitude towards PSG can be one of the benchmarks for other teams who want to sign him. Mabppe is very selfish even though he is one of the best at the moment, and I am not happy with his attitude towards PSG.

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August 09, 2023, 08:36:45 PM
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I feel sorry for what happened to Mbappe. He wasted the teenage years of his career at PSG. Fortunately there is one Champions League final and there is a World Cup or at least i would say it was completely wasted. A third of his career is over at the age of 24 but he has not won any major league titles, except for the French National Team. People on social media are pressuring him for the money that he ruined his career, on the other hand, they follow Mbappe with transfer offers every summer and the indecision and boring situation brought by these offers negatively affects him by constantly throwing him in front of the press. For this reason what has happened in recent years makes him not feel at home at PSG.

It's a very difficult situation indeed. Indecision affects him negatively. Messi and Ronaldo were lucky because Messi grew up from the infrastructure of one of the best teams. Ronaldo was at ManU in his prime. The average football fan usually does not understand football. It remains only in the entertainment and show part. There's no problem with that but i wish they'd understand a little. It was a logical move for Mbappe to stay at PSG in the summer of 2022. He is in full control in his home country, there is no shortage of money, the city is beautiful, the team is great, he was with Messi, Neymar, Verratti, Ramos. The chances of winning the Champions League with this team are very high, it made sense to try. However things did not go as planned and Mbappe was left alone. I hope he goes to Real Madrid soon.

The truth is, you don't need to feel sorry for what happened to Mbappe. after all, Mbappe is paid more than the other players. it would be very natural, if a club would demand back the loyalty of its star players. I am here as a neutral supporter, without siding with either club or PSG. I want to give an example, if someone is a professional player and he is a star. as long as he is still in the club, he should not give controversial statements that seem to attack his own club. even though, in fact he still received the full salary from his club.

On Mbappe's side, Mbappe has the right to decide whether to leave or not. in fact, he has the right to refuse according to the contract they agreed to. the problem is, PSG gives too many privileges to Mbappe. which in the end, Mbeppe feels bigger than the club itself (according to my version of view) needs to be remembered, Mbappe's popularity has skyrocketed in his career cannot be separated from the role of the club itself. Unfortunately, when PSG have super players on the front lines, they are not supported by competent supporting players. for example, it's normal for SPG to fail in the Champions League because there are several factors. apart from several injured core players, PSG did not have a creative midfielder when their front line players were stuck. plus, PSG is not handled by a competent coach and has a track record in the international arena. as a result, they failed again.

Let's compare it to Man City, the club's management did not really show off like the PSG president. Pep is given full rights to build a team as he wants, what Pep needs is full support from the club. well, what happened in the PSG camp was the opposite. that is why one of the factors why PSG always fails. as for Mbappe, I have explained it in previous threads with various scenarios. now, if Mbeppe doesn't want to have problems and clash with PSG, he shouldn't have defended his ego. he could sign a new contract offer and be sure to leave for Real Madrid next season. but in fact, Mbappe turned it down as reported by Romano. So, let's see how far the Mbappe transfer saga goes before the close of this summer window.

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August 09, 2023, 08:48:20 PM
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Interestingly of course, the situation is becoming more tense and perhaps clearer. Because after all, PSG had also made a strong decision to extend Mbappe contract with an increased salary as well, but Mbappe refused. Also, PSG had decided to sell Mbappe but again, Mbappe chose to stay for one more season. Mbappe attitude like that, obviously made PSG anger overflow and with that too, now PSG is taking another action not to include Mbappe in the player list. That way, it might become clear that if Mbappe wants to leave, then leave at this moment because if he stays, it seems like it will be useless for Mbappe too because he will not be included in the PSG squad later.
If Mbappe had stayed with PSG this season the relationship between Mbappe and PSG would not have been harmonious because PSG really didn't need Mbappe anymore after PSG had bought a lot of players for their front line. Until now, Mbappe is still a PSG player, but he has been exiled from the PSG main squad. He really got unfavorable treatment from PSG, but it was all because of his actions, which did not want to extend the contract with PSG.

Exactly 3 more days before Ligue 1 rolls around but the Mbappe transfer saga is still a question mark because no team has yet been able to submit an offer to PSG according to their wishes to get Mbappe. In addition, Real Madrid cannot guarantee that they will bring in Mbappe in this transfer window because they have not yet decided to make an offer to PSG.

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August 09, 2023, 09:07:05 PM
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Interestingly of course, the situation is becoming more tense and perhaps clearer. Because after all, PSG had also made a strong decision to extend Mbappe contract with an increased salary as well, but Mbappe refused. Also, PSG had decided to sell Mbappe but again, Mbappe chose to stay for one more season. Mbappe attitude like that, obviously made PSG anger overflow and with that too, now PSG is taking another action not to include Mbappe in the player list. That way, it might become clear that if Mbappe wants to leave, then leave at this moment because if he stays, it seems like it will be useless for Mbappe too because he will not be included in the PSG squad later.
If Mbappe had stayed with PSG this season the relationship between Mbappe and PSG would not have been harmonious because PSG really didn't need Mbappe anymore after PSG had bought a lot of players for their front line. Until now, Mbappe is still a PSG player, but he has been exiled from the PSG main squad. He really got unfavorable treatment from PSG, but it was all because of his actions, which did not want to extend the contract with PSG.

Exactly 3 more days before Ligue 1 rolls around but the Mbappe transfer saga is still a question mark because no team has yet been able to submit an offer to PSG according to their wishes to get Mbappe. In addition, Real Madrid cannot guarantee that they will bring in Mbappe in this transfer window because they have not yet decided to make an offer to PSG.
Exactly because it would affect his performance, scoring ability mental health and even cause an issue in the dressing room because his attitude might affect other players because his mind is not with PSG anymore and giving him such punish would even worsen the whole situation more they'll be on the losing side because he'll still get his salary while he trains harder to prepare for the next season and them losing him for free.
 The best thing they would had done is reduce their offer to attract possible European teams to come get him or terminate his contract and let him go for free like Manchester united did with Cristiano Ronaldo then it would be win win for both parties other than holding a player who's mind is made up to leave the club, Mbappe's dream has been to play for a top club like Realmadrid and I don't see him having a good performance with PSG if he stays one extra year.

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August 09, 2023, 09:26:19 PM
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Interestingly of course, the situation is becoming more tense and perhaps clearer. Because after all, PSG had also made a strong decision to extend Mbappe contract with an increased salary as well, but Mbappe refused. Also, PSG had decided to sell Mbappe but again, Mbappe chose to stay for one more season. Mbappe attitude like that, obviously made PSG anger overflow and with that too, now PSG is taking another action not to include Mbappe in the player list. That way, it might become clear that if Mbappe wants to leave, then leave at this moment because if he stays, it seems like it will be useless for Mbappe too because he will not be included in the PSG squad later.
If Mbappe had stayed with PSG this season the relationship between Mbappe and PSG would not have been harmonious because PSG really didn't need Mbappe anymore after PSG had bought a lot of players for their front line. Until now, Mbappe is still a PSG player, but he has been exiled from the PSG main squad. He really got unfavorable treatment from PSG, but it was all because of his actions, which did not want to extend the contract with PSG.

Exactly 3 more days before Ligue 1 rolls around but the Mbappe transfer saga is still a question mark because no team has yet been able to submit an offer to PSG according to their wishes to get Mbappe. In addition, Real Madrid cannot guarantee that they will bring in Mbappe in this transfer window because they have not yet decided to make an offer to PSG.
It seems that nothing will happen to Kylian Mbappe and Paris SG because both parties are forced to endure their selfishness and is very unfair that player like Kylian Mbappe is not made main player, instead he only used as reserve player. Paris SG is same as not respecting Mbappe career.
I agree with you if Kylian Mbappe has to refrain from staying with Paris SG after that this club will feel at a loss seeing Mbappe leave for free.

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August 09, 2023, 09:29:25 PM
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Exactly because it would affect his performance, scoring ability mental health and even cause an issue in the dressing room because his attitude might affect other players because his mind is not with PSG anymore and giving him such punish would even worsen the whole situation more they'll be on the losing side because he'll still get his salary while he trains harder to prepare for the next season and them losing him for free.
 The best thing they would had done is reduce their offer to attract possible European teams to come get him or terminate his contract and let him go for free like Manchester united did with Cristiano Ronaldo then it would be win win for both parties other than holding a player who's mind is made up to leave the club, Mbappe's dream has been to play for a top club like Realmadrid and I don't see him having a good performance with PSG if he stays one extra year.
I don't think too far, I mean whether Psg will take the option to terminate Mbappe contract or indeed they will not do this just to teach Mbappe a lesson to continue sitting on the bench until the end of his contract. I think the interesting thing here is that a team can make a decision for its players, including even star players, like what PSG did for Mbappe.

Nasser Al-Khelafi was quite annoyed with Mbappe where he ordered Mbappe giant poster to be removed at the PSG stadium. So that it becomes an answer if Mbappe is no longer a golden child in the PSG team where previously he received special treatment from PSG. Incidents like this can certainly affect the player's mentality because the change in situation that he experienced changed 100% from what PSG did to him.

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August 09, 2023, 09:48:21 PM
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The sum of the probabilities is 152%? Cool! This reminds me of the elections in my country  Grin
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In fact, they count every probability apart in each team. The probability for him to join Real Madrid is 59 from 100 and so on for the other teams. If we consider all these teams together then his probability will be around 40% for Real Madrid comparing to the other 3.

Interesting, I did not know about such an unobvious method of counting.
And yes, in one of the parliamentary "elections" in my country, the official preliminary figures were shown on TV, where the sum of the percentages of votes for different parties was 146%  Grin It became a meme.

By the way, this data is worth absolutely nothing without one more line: "the likelihood that Mbappe will remain at PSG." You can draw any percentage when choosing a club, but the main question that worries everyone will be whether he stays at PSG or not.
No I think a late deal will be done between PSG and Real Madrid. Second option will be Mbappe in the benches and a winter transfer to Real Madrid. That's what I think will happen personally.

Winter transition is out of the question - what's the point if Real Madrid can't use Mbappe in the Champions League? They will have to wait six months and get him for free.

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